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Some Special Interests => Travelling People => Topic started by: rovert on Saturday 15 August 09 15:37 BST (UK)
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Hello Everyone, I am looking for the Parents of Raynier/Rainey Hughes born abt 1870. place unknown. Married 21st Feb 1895 to Thomas Bull son of Stephen Bull. At North Eling, Hanpshire. This couple had a daughter also call Raynier baptised 23rd Sep 1900 at Binstead Hampshire.
Can anyone throw some light on her please. Thankyou.
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have you applied for the marriage certifcate?
as it maybe that she was married before? as there doesn't seem much info in census etc
i did notice the 1901 her name is spelt as Runa, if it was a 2nd marriage would explain why..........
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Ty for your reply, marriage cert says spinster, no fathers name though. the closest iI have got is a Reginia Hughes, d/o Sarah Hughes.
She was only 20yrs at the marriage. I havn,t seen the census entry as yet, for some reason I couldn,t find them.
Thankyou again.
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the 1901 census info is (from ancestery)
looking at the original it has been mistranscibed i can deffo see its Reina not Runa
Runa Bull 33
Harriet Bull 11
Thomas Bull 3
Reina Bull 7 months
living in tents
census ref
RG13; Piece: 1077; Folio: 72; Page: 6
from FindMyPast (Intents), North Common Lane, Sherfield English
her name is again mispelt and she is a widow
maybe the top two are sister and brother in law? (or not supposed to be with them)
SHARP, John Head Married M 22 1879 Hawker (General)
Woodmancott
Hampshire
SHARP, Mary J Wife Married F 20 1881
Dychett
Dorsetshire
BULL, Reena Head Widow F 33 1868 Hawker (General)
Not Known
BULL, Harriet Daughter Single F 11 1890
Redlynch
Wiltshire
BULL, Thomas Son Single M 3 1898
East Meon
Hampshire
BULL, Reena Daughter Single F 0 (7 MOS) 1901
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looks like Thomas Bull died oct nov Dec 1900
just after the child was born aged 37
County: Hampshire
Volume: 2c
Page: 69
so possible the young age she is, that she remarried but can't find anything ???
plenty for you to investigate, as they only married in 1895 harriet was born before the marriage
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the closest iI have got is a Reginia Hughes, d/o Sarah Hughes.
That looks quite possible. Which census years have you found them in? Birth/baptism to see how the name is recorded there?
Who were the witnesses to the marriage - have you identified them?
Casalguidi :)
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Thankyou both for the info. As you say Casalguid plenty now for me to be looking for. It seems looking through all possible census yrs her name is spelt several different ways. well done les for finding her in 1901. As you say this could be her sister and bro in law. xxxxx
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the closest iI have got is a Reginia Hughes, d/o Sarah Hughes.
That looks quite possible. Which census years have you found them in? Birth/baptism to see how the name is recorded there?
Who were the witnesses to the marriage - have you identified them?
Casalguidi :)
The witnesses were William Bullen and Charles Gear
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ty for that, shame it wasn,t Richard Gear lol
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The 1901 census shows:
Sarah BULLEN head wid 51 missionary to Gipsies? b.Erchfont Wiltshire living at North Eling, Hampshire RG13/1052 folio 83 page 13
According to earlier census (1871/1881) her husband was William but can't see anything to connect them ::)
Similarly, according to the 1901 census, Charles GEAR was the parish clerk ::)
Casalguidi :)
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1881 - Gypsies encamped on the racecourse, Wilton, Hants
Sarah HUGHES head mar 32 gipsy hawker b.Binley? Hampshire
Regenia? dau 10 b.Selbourne Hants
Naomi dau 8 b.West Meon? Hants
Silas son 6 b.Trill Hants
Phoebe dau 4 b.Trill Hants
Thomas son 2 b.Binstead Hants
James WEBB no relationship unm 37 b.Dublin Ireland
RG11/2073 folio 81 page 21
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Together with:
Martha HUGHES head mar 36 gipsy hawker b.Hungerford Berkshire
Henry son unm 24 chimney sweep b.Bulford Wilts
Sarah dau 22 b.Inkpen Berks
Sophia dau 18 b.Inkpen Berks
John son 12 b.Ruther Ford Cornwall
Harriet dau 8 b.Winterborne? Wilts
Leonard son 5 b.Amesbury Wilts
Matthias son 1 b.Bulford Wilts
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1891 - Caravans, Dowgas? Downs, St Stephen, Cornwall
Silas (looks something like BLEND??) head unm 42 travelling gipsy b.Ringwood Hants
Sarah HUGHS wife unm 47 b. ...............? Hampshire
Silas son 15 b.Wiltshire
Ome dau 16
Phoebe dau 12
Walter son 11
Thomas son 10
James son 9
Sidney son 4
Emelina dau 3
Henry (?) Mark son 3m?
all younger children ditto for birthplace of Wiltshire
with MILLS and RIGHT
RG12/1825 folio 86 page 8
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1871 - under canvas
Sarah HUGHES head unm 21 hawker b.Bindly Hampshire
Erenia dau 1 b.Pewsey? Wiltshire
RG10/1253 folio 78 page 16
Casalguidi :)
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My Goodness, Thankyou casalguidi I had checked earlier census but didn,t get the Martha Hughes entry.
many Thanks
Rovert :D :D
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This one was not easy to find -
1871 Census, RG10-1253-78-16, Kinterbury, Berkshire
Erenia Hughes 1 Pewsey, Wiltshire, England Daughter
Sarah Hughes 21 Bentley, Hampshire, England Head
The Silas is Silas Bland born 1852 (have cert) died St Austell 1925, buried at Biscovery, Par on the 20 Jul 1925, I was unable to find a burial for Sarah Hughes, the PR's after 1925 seem to be water damaged and difficult and in some cases impossible to read, I did not find a Headstone for either of them!
5 of Sarah's sons enlisted in the Duke of Cornwall's Light Infantry on the same day in 1915.
RG10-1253-71-2 Kintbury, Berkshire has Matilda Hughes on the image and if you compare the children with Martha Hughes in the 1881 census you will find that some of them appear to be the same children.
The above information is a mixture of my own research and that of 2 other family members.
From the CWG web site -
Name: HUGHES, HAMLYN
Initials: H
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Duke of Cornwall's Light Infantry
Unit Text: 10th Bn.
Date of Death: 04/09/1916
Service No: 23239
Additional information: Son of Silas Bland Hughes and Sarah Hughes, of Biscovey Moors, Par, Cornwall.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Pier and Face 6 B.
Memorial: THIEPVAL MEMORIAL
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John I was just looking at that very census. I have also seen the rsemblance of Matilda and martha.
but you have intriged me, are you decended from this couple ??
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I have sent you a pm in reply.
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John, have sent u a pm
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A neighbour is a granddaughter of Thomas Bull and Raynier Hughes. Her father was their son Thomas. She would like any information on their family. Thank you
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Hi Stu1943,
Is your neighbour based in Cornwall ? We have just received a letter just wanted to check if it was the same person.
Regards
Sarah :)
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Yes she is. We ordered a couple of certificates but they were the wrong ones. Her relatives seemed not to register their births. I thought she had given up, but it seems she has contacted you in desperation.
Stu
Just had a message from Rovert on the list so I can now put them in touch. Thank you
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Thank you for letting me know Stu that you have had a reply from Rovert :)
Regards
Sarah