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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Nottinghamshire => Topic started by: wkd1 on Monday 17 August 09 10:57 BST (UK)
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Desparately looking for information on the Perry family from Nottinghamshire area. They all see to have worked in the Lace Industry. William Henry Perry was born in Beeston around 1811and married 1 Jane Smeeton, 2 Charlotte and 3 Mary Baker. Any help much appreciated
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Hi
Welcome to Rootschat
What information are you looking for? We don't want to duplicate
Do you have their marriage dates?
Childrens baptisms?
census information ?
Carol
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Ok :)
1841/1851 Census he is with wife 1 Jane Smeeton.
Death;
Jane PERRY
June 1855
Nottingham 7b 122
1861 Census, wife is Charlotte
Marriage;
William Henry PERRY
September 1856
Nottingham 7b 254
On same page Charlotte STEVENSON
Death;
Charlotte PERRY
December 1868
Radford 7b 136, Age 42
1871+ with Mary.C.
Marriage;
Mary Shantrey BAKER
William Henry PERRY
June 1869
Nottingham 7b 330
Possible Christening for William;
www.freereg.org.uk
William Henry PERREY ( notice extra e)
14 August 1809, St Mary, Nottingham, Nottinghamshire
Parents, THOMAS and ANN
Trish :)
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Thank you so much Trish1120, this is the kind of information i am looking for. It confirms some of the info I have already and gives more. The spelling of Perry with an extra E is interesting. I know that a lot of the times spelling errors make it difficult to trace ancestors. William Henry I had down as possibly born 1811 or there abouts, the 1809 date is likely. This is fantastic as it now gives me his parents to work on
I have so little information on the Perry side of my family (Perry is my surname) it is frustrating
Are we able to add trees on here so people can see what info we have to add to?
Michael Perry
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Hi Michael :)
I'll start with your last question first. The is no facility for posting Family Trees on Rootschat. You can add your surname interests and areas to your profile ( check out mine).
There is also the surname interests table. Just look around the site and familiarise yourself with it. There is also a "Search" feature and you never know what may pop up. Often people "google" their family names and end up finding a connection on Rootschat and that is very exciting ;D
To confirm Williams Fathers name you would have to purchase one of the Marriage Certs. Well worth the few pounds investment.
If you do not have access to Ancestry I can see if anyone is researching the Perrys and contact them for you.
I "'googled" perry genealogy + nottingham ad found someone reaseraching them;
http://www.uk-surnames.com/places.php?county=Nottinghamshire&place=Nottingham
Cheers,
Trish
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Michael
Are you sure that William Henry Perry's first wife was Jane Smeeton ?
Notts Marriage Index has this -
William Henry Perry and Jane GOODWIN, married 27th November 1831,
St Mary, Nottingham.
Regards
Willsmum.
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well that throws a spanner in the works. It looks like he enjoyed gettin married and was still fathering children at the age of 60. Maybee her married Jane Goodwin and THEN 2 yrs later mrried Jane Smeeton?
He has a history of remarrying 1 year after the end of previous marriage
Michael
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Thank you trish, I will hopefully get back onto ancestry.com when I get a new job. I have been laid off work due to ill health unfortunately so at the moment i am working on free web sites such as the BDM site and via Genes Reunited
Michael
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Michael
I too have an interest in the Perry's of Nottingham.
My information is that WHP was born in 1810 in Strelley and was married to Jane Goodwin, then Charlotte Stevenson and finally Mary Shantrey Baker.
I have no idea who the parents of WHP were and have not come across Thomas and Ann (as mentioned by Trish) but I am trying to research this at the present time.
Charlotte was my GG Grandmother and WHP my GG Grandfather.
Where do you fit into this family tree?
Phil
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William Henry (1810) is my great great great grandfather.
WHP1810 ->WHP1839 ->Herbert Brooks Perry 1877 -> Arthur Brooks Perry 1905 -> Alan Perry 1936 -> Me
I have little information on the Perry's so far but am willing to share
my email is wkd-1@hotmail.co.uk
I am so excited as to having found a previously unknown relative. Do you use GenesReunited? most of my tree info is on there but i use a GSP family tree program for the full tree of all families
Regards
Michael
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Do you have the details of William and Charlotte's marraige?
8.10.1856 Nottingham St Mary William Henry Perry m Charlotte Stevenson
then 6.8.1969 William Heny Perry m Mary Shantrey Baker, also at St Mary.
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Are these dates taken from the marriage registers of St Mary's as I thought the BMD shows the dates as September 1856 and June 1869.
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The BMD shows the quarter in which an event took place rather than the actual date.
I htink I've written the dates the American way so apologies!
10 Aug 1856
8 June 1869
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I think the BMD info has some transcription errors so this looks more positive - can you confirm where the info comes from please?
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This info is from the Notts family history marraige CD :)
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Hi Phil
William Henry Perry's father was Thomas, according to the marriage entries.
8th June 1869
William Henry Perry 58 widower, Smith, Plumtree Terr, father Thomas Perry decd Lace Maker
Mary Shantrey Baker 48 widow, Pierrpoint St, father Ismael Hammers?, Blacksmith. Witnessed by Ishmael Baker, Ann Dexter
10 Aug 1856
William Henry Perry full age, widower, Smith ? Gate, father Thomas Perry, Lacemaker
Charlotte Stevenson full age, spin, Coldham St? father John Stevenson, Warper? Witnessed by Alfred Perry, Mary ?
27 Nov 1831
William Henry Perry & Jane Goodwin by banns, witnessed by Joseph Burton & Elizabeth Goodwin.
Hope this helps
Carol
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Carol
thanks for that, it ties in with what I have.
It is also possible that W H Perry also had an earlier marriage - to Jane Smeeton (as stated in Michael's original post).
I think this is possible because the 1851 census shows WHP as having a visitor that night - Harriet Smeeton - Neice.
Is there any mention of a Jane Smeeton in the marriage register info you have?
Perhaps around 1830.
Phl
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Hi all
I don't see a marriage for WHP marrying a Jane Smeeton.
Harriett Smeeton could have been a niece through WHP own family not necessarily through a marriage. If one of WHP's sisters married a Smeeton then Harriett would be his niece.
If you have WHP in the 1851 census married to a Jane, then it must be Jane Goodwin as she didn't die until 1855
I noticed in one of your earlier replies you thought that WHP was born in Strelley. I have searched Strelley BT's but couldn't see anything for it.
What makes you think he was born there? In most of the censuses I have found him in he gives his birthplace as just Nottingham.
Carol
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Carol
Yes I agree, the Jane in the 1851 census is Jane Goodwin as the 1841 census shows WHP and Jane both living in the Goodwin family home.
I only have transcripts of these two documents and it is on the 1851 census that the place of birth is given as Strelley.
Howeve, like yourself I have been unable to trace him there.
Perhaps the next step would to be to get a copy of the actual census itself as transcription errors do occur.
Phil
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Hi Phil
I found this marriage
Harriett Goodwin m George Smeeton 6.5. 1842 at St Marys
Maybe Harriett was the sister of Jane Goodwin.
Carol
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Carol
That would make sense and tie in with the census data although in 1841 there is no Harriet Goodwin at the family house on census night.
There is however a Hart Goodwin. I have not come across this annotation before - perhaps though it is shorthand notation for Harriet. If so this would tie in even better as Jane appears to have named one of her daughters Hart (Harriet?).
Phil
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The 1851 census shows William to have been born in Nott St Mary's.
I can understand why a transcription error might have occurred - the St has a very curly "tail" leading into the M of Mary, and that M could be misread as a double L. But I'm certain it is St Mary's -- which would tie in with everything else.
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hi everyone
i'm new to rootschat and still working it all out. however i am a decendant of Alfred perry (1815-1895) brother of WHP. i have done some research on WHP's family and it ties in with everything that has been mentioned. how much has been reseached because we may be able to exchange new information. thomas perry is definatley the father of WHP and he our mutual ancestor! would be good to get in touch!
jack
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Hi Jack, Would be happy to share information. my email is (*)
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regards Michael Perry
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Thank you to everyone, I am now able to validate a lot of information I had previously and also work on the new info!
What is even better is to have found Phil who is my 3rd cousin Once removed and Jack who is my 5th cousin.
Have ;lots to get on with, please keep the info coming, e-mail me wit whatever you have. I have almost finished organising my notes from a box into a proper filing system!!!!!!
Will send updated trees as and when new information becomes available, will Probably send as a excell spreadsheet as easier to manipulate and can add comments to each person
Hope this helps
Michael
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Hi Jack92 (and any others concerned),
I too am new to Rootschat. I'm looking for information on the Perry family c. 1837, when Mary Ann Perry, my g-g-g-grandma, a lace mender, married George Lydal Cooke, a framework knitter, in the Parish Church, Radford. Reckon this was St Peter's Church, as the vicar was Saml. Creswell and the Parish Clerk Joseph Hooke. Mary Ann is recorded as living in Bloomsgrove. One of the witnesses was an Alfred Perry. Maybe your ancestor? But militating against this is the fact that Mary Ann's father is recorded as being a John Perry, Framesmith, and I believe your Alfred's father was Thomas Perry.
I know there was an Alfred Perry who had a lace factory in Radford around that time. Was he your ancestor, Jack92?
I am still, therefore, looking for Alfred, son of John and presumably brother or cousin of Mary Ann Perry.
Any information most gratefully received, by me and by the widening circle of interested descendants!
nakaserogirl
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Nakaserogirl
by the looks of it I believe we all may share the same ancestors. Jack is my cousin a few times removed (cant remember the full relation) I will have a good look at the information I have to confirm this.
I will try and get a copy of my Perry tree to you hopefully next week. My email is wkd-1 at hotmail dot co dot uk
If you want email me so I can use your return address to send the details
Michael
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nakaserogirl
this information is interesting, as i have also come across an alfred perry with a father called john. they must all be the same family but different branches. my email is jackcoleman@hotmail.co.uk . just email me and i can give you more info. thanks
jack
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Nakaserogirl
There is an entry in Glovers Directory for 1825 that reads 'John Perry' Framesmith, Platoff Row. Perhaps this is the father of Mary Ann.
Also possibilities (or red herrings), St Marys Parish Register shows the following entries
18/4/1788 John Perry and Mary Clarke, Marriage licence
23/4/1805 John Perry and Susannah Midmore, mariage.
Phil