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Title: Ivor Hopwood - death Waitakere NZ 02.04.1966
Post by: Serenity1948 on Saturday 22 August 09 16:16 BST (UK)
Although it still needs TBC I have info regarding my father's brother, who it seems came to NZ (despite my belief he'd died in Australia!). The record relating is: Reg no 1966/28787 - family name: Hopwood - Given name: Ivor - age @ death 46y. The cemetary record states; Soldiers burial M Row 4, Plot 47 - telephone technician.

Census records - not kept by NZ? (I understand)

Military records - Help on how to find these would be great.

Imigration detals - as above  ::)

I'm asking a lot I realise but ANYTHING of advice would mean I can continue my hunt.

Ivor was born in Mynydd Isa, North Wales on 04.07.1919 to William Alfred Hopwood & Annie Connah. I have no idea when he left the UK but it seems he married for the 3rd time in Manchester in 1954. Whether his wife emigrated with him I don't know????

Families hey  :o

Many thanks - Carole
Title: Re: Ivor Hopwood - death Waitakere NZ 02.04.1966
Post by: Lucy2 on Saturday 22 August 09 17:34 BST (UK)
Hi Carole

Yes, correct,  ...  unfortunately there are NO census records available for New Zealand.

As you think that Ivor may have married (again) in England in 1954, it appears more likely then, that he has seen war service with the British Army ?  It may pay to check for a record in the UK.    (If you don't find anything, then we can provide you with the WW2 Military link for NZ).

I did check the Australian war records website, but his name doesn't appear there.

Immigration   -   Have you looked at the passenger indexes on the "findmypast" website ?    I could only see about five HOPWOOD's travelling to NZ - Ivor was not amongst them.   It is possible though that he arrived here after 1960 ... or that he made his way to NZ via another country.

If you have the name of his wife, then you can make a search of the NZ (online) Death index.

http://bdmhistoricalrecords.identityservices.govt.nz/

Lu
Title: Re: Ivor Hopwood - death Waitakere NZ 02.04.1966
Post by: Lucy2 on Saturday 22 August 09 18:02 BST (UK)
Hi again

I've  just noticed that the cemetery record (Waikumete, Auckland), doesn't have the name of the funeral director.
[Quite often they do, and sometimes further information can be obtained by contacting them].

Were you planning to purchase the death record ?  [If so, then "a printout" version is recommended - this offers the maximum amount of information, and is also the less expensive option.   See the Resources section of this board (under "BDM Information") to learn what exactly is included in the record.]

I'll have a look for you (later in the week) to see if there is a funeral notice for Ivor.   EDITED to add :  This look-up offer was apparently not required ?  

Lu
Title: Re: Ivor Hopwood - death Waitakere NZ 02.04.1966
Post by: Thamesite2017 on Saturday 22 August 09 19:55 BST (UK)
Hi
Have you contacted the cemetery re purchasers etc.
the NZSG burial locator, has burial records index only
Bye
Althea
Title: Re: Ivor Hopwood - death Waitakere NZ 02.04.1966
Post by: tropicalj on Sunday 23 August 09 00:30 BST (UK)
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=401052.new

hello  there
thought I  would  add in  the original  thread for additional information :D

Jenn
Title: Re: Ivor Hopwood - death Waitakere NZ 02.04.1966
Post by: Thamesite2017 on Sunday 23 August 09 01:05 BST (UK)
Re the military records
If the service was in NZ
http://www.nzdf.mil.nz/personnel-records/nzdf-archives/accessing-military-service-records.htm form part down page
Bye
Althea
Title: Re: Ivor Hopwood - death Waitakere NZ 02.04.1966
Post by: Lucy2 on Sunday 23 August 09 01:07 BST (UK)

Thanks Jenn  :)

Lu


Title: Re: Ivor Hopwood - death Waitakere NZ 02.04.1966
Post by: maxidog on Tuesday 01 September 09 14:22 BST (UK)
I have had confirmation that he did not serve in the New Zealand Army and I am now awating information about any army service in the UK. I also expect to receive a copy of his death certificate in the next couple of days so I am hoping that will tell me when he arrived in New Zealand.

I am also awaiting a reply from The National Archives on New Zealand regarding his 'estate' as he died intestate. The Public Trust Office gave me the contact email address for the NZNA.

Thanks once again to everyone who has been contributing to my search to find out a bit about the life of my father after 1954.

The search for where his twin, Eric Hopwood, died continues - it has had no replies - I always believed it was in The Channel Island of Guernsey where he was supposed to have manged/owned a nursing home. he died in the 1980's I think.
Title: Re: Ivor Hopwood - death Waitakere NZ 02.04.1966
Post by: maxidog on Tuesday 19 October 21 13:47 BST (UK)
Sorry Lucy2 to have confused you as to why I messaged you- I was confused with RootsChat setup as hadn't used it for years until a few weeks back and saw a posting by you from 2009 era so thought it was a way back into researching my family history. Your initial contact seems to have been with a cousin who I had only discovered before going back to NZ in 2009 and who asked for what information I had. She was using all the stuff I had sent her to research via the NZ forum. I apologise once more. I am a confused 80 year old.
Title: Re: Ivor Hopwood - death Waitakere NZ 02.04.1966
Post by: Lucy2 on Tuesday 19 October 21 15:35 BST (UK)
Hi

...  thanks for your message "maxidog" ... no need for apologies at all.  ;)

I really just wanted to make sure you got the "arrival" information I was about to add, and it made more sense to post it to the Australia board thread where you had been active back in August last.
[The rather long-winded explanation I gave   ;D  was also for benefit of the other contributors too - so they knew what was going on.  ]

It really can be of help to us to have any additional info you have gathered  ... e.g. from  BDM certs / death / funeral notices /  coroner's report,  etc. etc.     You'd be surprised how little clues from this sort of documentation can often trigger new finds.

Hopefully this latest information will "re-ignite" your thread on the Australia board.    It would also be best if any incoming information was posted directly to that board too - so it is all kept in the one thread.

This is the link to Australia board thread  > >

  https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=401052.msg7224995#msg7224995

 
   ~  Lu

*  link added



Title: Re: Ivor Hopwood - death Waitakere NZ 02.04.1966
Post by: maxidog on Tuesday 19 October 21 15:37 BST (UK)
I have just replied to the post before this.
Title: Re: Ivor Hopwood - death Waitakere NZ 02.04.1966
Post by: Lucy2 on Tuesday 19 October 21 15:40 BST (UK)
Duplicated post by me ... (removed by me).   Ooops, sorry  ::)

         ~  Lu
Title: Re: Ivor Hopwood - death Waitakere NZ 02.04.1966
Post by: minniehaha on Wednesday 20 October 21 03:58 BST (UK)
Apologies if this has already been posted:

Coroner's file for Ivor Hopwood.......

https://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?code=24244634


[Restricted for preservation reasons.] If you have not already seen this you could ask for a look up.

Added:

You probably have the cemetery details too.......

Record for Ivor Hopwood
Date of birth
Unknown

Occupation
Telephone Technician

Date of death
4 April 1966

Age at death
46 years


Gender
Male

Region
West

Cemetery name
Waikumete Cemetery

Plot location
Waikumete Cemetery, Service Persons Area M, Row 4, Plot 47

Remains type
Body

Date of burial
6 April 1966

Funeral director
Davis Funeral Services Ltd



Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Ivor Hopwood - death Waitakere NZ 02.04.1966
Post by: Lucy2 on Wednesday 20 October 21 04:13 BST (UK)
Minnie ... current researcher  "maxidog"  already has a copy of Coroner's report / Death cert. etc. etc.

The continuation of this search (which commenced in 2009) is now "playing out" in  a similar thread on Australia board.

 

This is the link to Australia board thread  > >

  https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=401052.msg7224995#msg7224995

 

    ~  Lu
Title: Re: Ivor Hopwood - death Waitakere NZ 02.04.1966
Post by: Lucy2 on Wednesday 20 October 21 04:19 BST (UK)

Hopefully this latest information will "re-ignite" your thread on the Australia board.    It would also be best if any incoming information was posted directly to that board too - so it is all kept in the one thread.

This is the link to Australia board thread  > >

  https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=401052.msg7224995#msg7224995

         ~  Lu
Title: Re: Ivor Hopwood - death Waitakere NZ 02.04.1966
Post by: minniehaha on Wednesday 20 October 21 06:40 BST (UK)
Thanks Lu...... :D


Minniehaha.