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Title: WILKINS look up please 1841/51/61
Post by: andy_smed on Monday 24 August 09 18:53 BST (UK)

Hi all

I am look for Eliza Wilkins born about between 1841 and 1843 in Pembrokeshire. I know that Eliza married a John Heath in Cardiff in 1863 and had two children Elizabeth and Ann and that John died before the 1871 census. What I would like if possible is to find Eliza with her family prior to getting married.

I have looked at FreeBMD for a birth for Eliza and the nearest matche was one born 1841 in Carmarthen but according to the 1891 census she says she was born in Pembroke Town.

Any help appreciated.

Andy

Title: Re: WILKINS look up please 1841/51/61
Post by: osprey on Tuesday 25 August 09 20:27 BST (UK)

this is the best match I could find in 1851

Amroth Castle back, Amroth, Pembs HO107/2475 folio 348 pg 9
Martha Wilkins mar 31 mason's wife husband absent b. Pembs, Lampeter
Eliza dau 13 b. Carms, Kiffig
Martha dau 7 b. Mon, Rumney
Henry son 3 b. Rumney
Richard son 7 months b. Pembs, Amroth

then 1871 was a help, if you allow for an odd dropped aitch   ::)
3 Helen St, Roath RG10/5367 folio 15 pg 12
Richard Wilkins head mar 53 mason b. Carms, Carmarthen
Martha wife 53 b. Carmarthen
James 16 b. Swansea
Martha Ann Eath niece 6 b. Penarth
(suspect niece is used here to signify female relation of a younger generation, and would now be termed grand daughter)

1861 Rolls 3, St Andrews, Glam RG9/4041 folio 51 pg 1
Richard Wilkins head mar 41 stone mason b. Carms, Laugharne
Martha wife 38 b. Laugharne
Henry son 12 stonemason b. Bedwellty
Richard son 10 general servant b. Amroth
James son 6 b. St Mary

1841 Small Houses, Uchlawrcoed, Bedwellty, Mon HO107/750/17 folio 50 pg 27
Richard Wilkins 25 mason
Martha 25
Elizabeth 3
Griffith 46 mason
William 20
Griffith & William not born in county, the other 3 born in county.

They're not very consistent in ages or places of birth.     ::)

Extracted baptism  IGI batch C080991 for Crunwear, Pembs for Eliza 20/12/1838  dau of Richard & Martha.
Same batch has a baptism earlier that year for another Eliza daughter of Griffith & Elizabeth.

Eliza's marriage cert would confirm father's name & occupation.

Possible marriage for Richard?
Richard Wilkins dec qtr 1837 Narberth vol 26 pg 803 with Martha Meyler on the same page
and birth reg for Eliza
Eliza Wilkins dec qtr 1838 Narberth vol 26 pg 549

Title: Re: WILKINS look up please 1841/51/61
Post by: jacques on Tuesday 25 August 09 22:43 BST (UK)

This entry on BMD

Marriage Dec qtr 1863 Eliza Wilkins and John Heath would confirm Eliza's Father christian name and occupation etc  Ref  Cardiff 11a 416

Regards
Pam

Title: Re: WILKINS look up please 1841/51/61
Post by: andy_smed on Tuesday 25 August 09 22:59 BST (UK)

Hi Pam/osprey

Thanks for that it is a great help. I will get the marriage cert and hopefully confirm these as the parents.

Thanks again for all the hard work.

Andy