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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Dublin => Topic started by: odonnellt on Sunday 30 August 09 15:28 BST (UK)
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I'm getting great help in the search for mr G Grandad Davis, much appreciated.
Mums asked if I can try to find out a bit about her side of the family now. Again, almost nothing to go on but worth a try.
My gran was Annie Jordan nee McDonald. She married William Jordan in 1931.She would've been 96 on the 17th August this year.
Her mum was Annie Bovenizer & she married James McDonald.Her mum was also called Annie but don't have any other info on her etc.
Annie & James McDonlad lived in Cardiff Cottage Finglas when my gran was born.
I know it's like looking for a needle in a haystack but I know if anyone can find them for me, you lot can.
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Have you tried searching for any of the family in the 1911 census yet?- it's online and free:
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search
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Have you tried searching for any of the family in the 1911 census yet?- it's online and free:
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search
Have found the name Bovenizer in Rathmines Avenue in the 1911 census.
There's a Henry aged 45, Annie 46, Mary Elizabeth 19, Susan 16, Robert 14, Annie 9, Henry 7. There's also a Maryanne James 52.
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Next step then is to search for other records. I'm guessing that Bovenizer isn't a common surname so check index to civil registrations and make a note of all the ones to find- later those might all fit into your family-
http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=collectionDetails;t=searchable;c=1408347
Also have a look at LDS site- search 'Bovenizer' 'Ireland' and go through those results- many seem to be Co. Limerick but there are Dublin ones as well.
www.familysearch.org ('recent' ones are very unlikely to be listed)
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Next step then is to search for other records. I'm guessing that Bovenizer isn't a common surname so check index to civil registrations and make a note of all the ones to find- later those might all fit into your family-
http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=collectionDetails;t=searchable;c=1408347
Also have a look at LDS site- search 'Bovenizer' 'Ireland' and go through those results- many seem to be Co. Limerick but there are Dublin ones as well.
www.familysearch.org ('recent' ones are very unlikely to be listed)
Thanks so much for your help with this, it's much appreciated.
Have been onto the site & searched through it but there's so many Bovenizers & I'm getting a bit confused. Will go back into it another day when I'm feeling a bit fresher, I'm sure I'll find who I'm looking for.
Tracey
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If you go to civil registration index site put in 'Bovenizer' as surname (nothing else) then click 'search', then at top of page select 'place' and check the box for 'Dublin' and you can bring up only the ones in Dublin area which should cut down on the records you have to look through for now.
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If you go to civil registration index site put in 'Bovenizer' as surname (nothing else) then click 'search', then at top of page select 'place' and check the box for 'Dublin' and you can bring up only the ones in Dublin area which should cut down on the records you have to look through for now.
Hi aghadowey,
Thanks for your help again.
Can't access the Civil registration site though as my PC doesn't support Flashplayer. Am able to access www.familysearch.org but can't find any Dublin Bovenizers.
Sorry to be a numpty, is there any other way I can find Dublin Bovenizers??
Thanks,
Tracey
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the Familysearch Civil index that aghadowey mentioned is the best way to track Civil registrations. I had a quick look and based on the census details found a few matches to get you started.
1. Probable marriage of Henry :
Name: Henry Bovenizer
registration district: Dublin South
quarter / year: Oct - Dec 1890
volume: 2 / page: 523
The Dublin South registration district includes both the southern part of the city and suburbs including Rathmines. There's a possible cross-match for this marriage entry with an Annie James (same quarter, district, volume & page)
2. possible birth for Henry
Name: Henry Bovenizer
Reg. district: Rathkeale
year: 1871
vol: 5 / Page: 726
If this is correct then his age is out by a little bit on the census.. but the district of Rathkeale matches the county of birth (Limerick) given on the census
3. birth of Elizabeth Mary :
name: Elizabeth Mary Bovenizer
registration district: Dublin South
quarter / year: Apr - Jun 1891
volume: 2 / page: 705
4. birth for Annie (jnr)
Name: Annie Bovenizer
reg. district: Dublin South
quarter & year : Oct - Dec 1901
volume: 2 / Page: 547
You can order certs from the GRO using the above details - see www.groireland.ie
Shane
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Thanks to everyone again for their much appreciated help with this. I found a message board on Ancestry.com about the Dublin Bovenizers & have contacted them for their help.
Will keep you updated.
Tracey
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I am not sure now that the family listed on the census actually fit your timeline...
I cant see any way that Annie aged 9 on the form could have married (James McD) and had a daughter (also Annie) that could then have married (William J) in 1931..as the earliest she could have been married would be about 1920
Shane
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I am not sure now that the family listed on the census actually fit your timeline...
I cant see any way that Annie aged 9 on the form could have married (James McD) and had a daughter (also Annie) that could then have married (William J) in 1931..as the earliest she could have been married would be about 1920
Shane
Hi Shane,
Was thinking the same thing myself. And as these are the only Bovenizers listed in Dublin then perhaps the ones I'm looking for aren't from Dublin after all. I'll check back with the family to see if they have any more info for me.
Thanks again,
Tracey
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My Bovenizer connection is remote - my grandmother's first cousin married a man whose greatgrandmother was a Bovenizer.
Despite a long connection with Trinity College Dublin, I never made the acquaintance of Harry Bovenizer, who worked there as a librarian for many years. However, I have just been reading some amusing tales of Harry and his family in Michael de Barrabeiti's chapter in Trinity Tales: Trinity College Dublin in the Sixties (Dublin: Lilliput Press, 2009). Harry's father, known as Barney Bovenizer, was the gate man at Mount Jerome Cemetery in Dublin.
A quick trawl through the Irish Civil Registration Indexes suggests that Barney was a nickname for the above Henry (7 in 1911) of Rathmines Avenue and that he married Flora Isabella Stedmon/Stedman (1932, Q3, Dublin South, v.2, p.363).
Their son Henry J. Bovenizer (b.1937, Q1, Dublin South, v.2, p.401) must be the Trinity College librarian.
The older Henry (45 in 1911) was surely the Henry Shier Bovenizer whose christening is listed at http://www.familysearch.org/eng/search/igi/individual_record.asp?recid=500049175978
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There is also a Boveniger family in Dublin in the 1911 census transcriptions: http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Clondalkin/Corkagh_Demesne/40604/
The handwriting is unclear, but I am sure the surname is really Bovenizer. I have submitted a correction.
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I came across this thread by accident. You are barking up the wrong tree. Bovenizer is a Palatine name. They came to Ireland with the Palatine settlement, mainly at Rathkeale in Co Limerick
The Irish Palatine Association is actually run by a Bovenizer
http://www.irishpalatines.org/about/name.html
I have a short write up of the Palatine refugees that came to Ireland here (http://www.grantonline.com/grant-family-individuals/piper-charles/rathkeale/rathkeale.htm). It gives you the background
Contact the Irish Palatine Association, and I am sure they can help you.
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The Bovenzier surname still exisit today in Rathkeal, Patrickswell, Ardagh and the suburbs of Limerick city.
There is one in Bray Co Wicklow, one in Offaly and one in Dublin (aged care home)
Mike.
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Hi
Going through Rathmines CoI Birth Register today and notice three of the children born to what looks like Harry/Henry a Labourer & Annie Bovenzier of Observatory Lane, Rathmines:-
8 Oct 1893 Annie Caroline
21 Oct 1895 Susan
28 May 1898 Robert Benjamin
Cheers
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The Henry (Harry) bovenizer you speak about is my father and moved to Wicklow in 1974 after he married Mary butler (aug 1952) I loved the stories in Mick de larribetis book myself as I had no recollection of my grandparents barney and Flo as these were both dead before I was born. I can ask my dad if he has any further information. Henry (barney) and flo had 2 other children * (1932) and * (1942). * went on to marry an o'shea and had one son and * married Jean and went on to have 2 sons and a daughter. I am also an only girl and have 2 brothers
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