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Title: Adam Brown - Shotts - early 20th C
Post by: CarolineStewart on Thursday 03 September 09 17:53 BST (UK)
I'm searching on behalf of an acquaintance..

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His name was Adam Brown and he was from Shotts in Lanarkshire. Not sure of his birth date but he definitely died before 1954 as that was when my grandparents met. He was married to Margaret and had 9 children, the youngest of whom was my grandpa, Thomas, born in 1926. We *think* he was a miner but are wondering if there are any records to show if he was also an athlete
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the reason for the search? the original athlete on the Irn Bru label (pre 1922) was one Adam Brown of Shotts, and this lady is trying to find out if her Adam is THAT Adam

thanks in advance

CS
Title: Re: Adam Brown - Shotts - early 20th C
Post by: apanderson on Thursday 03 September 09 18:29 BST (UK)
Why not get in touch with Barrs and see if they can help.

http://www.agbarr.co.uk/agbarr/newsite/ces_general.nsf/wpg/history!OpenDocument

Anne
Title: Re: Adam Brown - Shotts - early 20th C
Post by: CarolineStewart on Thursday 03 September 09 18:47 BST (UK)
Thanks, the lady in question is going to do that as well,  we're trying to approach this from both sides, as she doesn't know much about her great grandpa so if we can fill that out it makes corroboration easier..

CS
Title: Re: Adam Brown - Shotts - early 20th C
Post by: sancti on Friday 04 September 09 09:07 BST (UK)
This is the closest marriage to Shotts that I can see on SP. It should give his occupation if it's the right one.

1907 BROWN ADAM and SIMPSON MARGARET WATSON LANARK /LANARK
Title: Re: Adam Brown - Shotts - early 20th C
Post by: CarolineStewart on Friday 04 September 09 09:18 BST (UK)
This is the closest marriage to Shotts that I can see on SP. It should give his occupation if it's the right one.

1907 BROWN ADAM and SIMPSON MARGARET WATSON LANARK /LANARK

Yup, I pulled that one this morning, it shows Adam as a Coal Miner, which fits with the facts I've been given, though I'm trying to find some more information to back it up..and link him to the lady's family

So, IF this is the Adam in question, how do we tell if he is also the athlete, as this would have been a hobby... local papers maybe?

C
Title: Re: Adam Brown - Shotts - early 20th C
Post by: sancti on Friday 04 September 09 09:26 BST (UK)
The Barrs site has him as a Highland Games champion so you could try here

http://www.shga.co.uk/aboutus.php
Title: Re: Adam Brown - Shotts - early 20th C
Post by: sancti on Friday 04 September 09 09:27 BST (UK)
Do you have Thomas' birth certificate to confirm parents?
Title: Re: Adam Brown - Shotts - early 20th C
Post by: CarolineStewart on Friday 04 September 09 09:35 BST (UK)
Re : Thomas' BC.

Nope, I was struggling on SP last night with that one, I've asked the lady in question about her Grandma (Thomas' wife) so I can go down the marriage route as well to corroborate, but haven't had a response yet)

Re: Highland Games,

interesting link, I'll see what I can get...thank you :)
Title: Re: Adam Brown - Shotts - early 20th C
Post by: CarolineStewart on Friday 04 September 09 09:37 BST (UK)
The Barrs site has him as a Highland Games champion so you could try here

http://www.shga.co.uk/aboutus.php

As a body, they were not founded until 1947, Will have to check if they keep any sort of pre war records at all... still...tis worth a punt :)
Title: Re: Adam Brown - Shotts - early 20th C
Post by: sancti on Friday 04 September 09 09:46 BST (UK)
Where was thomas born?

Who were his siblings?
Title: Re: Adam Brown - Shotts - early 20th C
Post by: CarolineStewart on Friday 04 September 09 09:50 BST (UK)
Where was thomas born?

Who were his siblings?

these are all questions to which I am trying to find the answers from the person who asked me to look into this..
Title: Re: Adam Brown - Shotts - early 20th C
Post by: sancti on Friday 04 September 09 09:54 BST (UK)
Do you know where Adam died?
Title: Re: Adam Brown - Shotts - early 20th C
Post by: CarolineStewart on Friday 04 September 09 10:02 BST (UK)
Do you know where Adam died?

The first post is everything the lady in question knows about Adam,

I'm hoping that once she can give me some more details about Thomas, I can backwards corroborate,

Unfortunately I'm not in direct contact with her, so any questions need to wait for her email reply.

Even then, once we HAVE found HER Adam, there would still be work to link to the athlete of the time...
Title: Re: Adam Brown - Shotts - early 20th C
Post by: sancti on Friday 04 September 09 10:06 BST (UK)
A possible birth for Thomas going by the middle name

1926 BROWN THOMAS SIMPSON Male at CALDERHEAD /LANARK

You could also contact here for information on Adam

http://www.monklands.co.uk/
Title: Re: Adam Brown - Shotts - early 20th C
Post by: CarolineStewart on Friday 04 September 09 10:17 BST (UK)
A possible birth for Thomas going by the middle name

1926 BROWN THOMAS SIMPSON Male at CALDERHEAD /LANARK

You could also contact here for information on Adam

http://www.monklands.co.uk/

Useful , thanks, I'm assuming SP has no cert image for that one (I don't think they have any in that period yet)

All info will be passed on ...
Title: Re: Adam Brown - Shotts - early 20th C
Post by: dfo315 on Tuesday 19 August 14 06:40 BST (UK)
I think that I am related to Adam Brown of Shotts. Can anyone assist me?
Title: Re: Adam Brown - Shotts - early 20th C
Post by: Maccahc on Wednesday 24 September 14 10:28 BST (UK)
Just came across this thread, there is a fairly active local history group in Shotts which can be accessed via facebook. I`m sure they will try to help as having the irn bru label guy has generated some interest in the recent past try here.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/shottshistorymembers/

Title: Re: Adam Brown - Shotts - early 20th C
Post by: TamMack on Monday 19 October 15 16:22 BST (UK)
See the attachment taken from the Stark Digital Archive (Physical Culture) Adam Brown,  first used in the Barrs Irn Bru advert in 1901
Title: Re: Adam Brown - Shotts - early 20th C
Post by: TamMack on Wednesday 03 May 17 14:19 BST (UK)
Shotts History Group had an article on Adam Brown, senior, and junior, in their bulletin ( Volume  4 – 2005). Information supplied by Mrs Mary Dunsmore, a granddaughter. The father also called Adam was a cyclist, selected for the 1930 Olympics but could not afford to go. Described as the fastest cyclist in the UK. Adam, the son, featured in the Barrs Irn Bru advert, a coal miner, weightlifter, he died in 1933 aged 54. It would appear from my previous posting he also used the name Lewis Lyon, Highland Games athlete, I have not come across this name. Mary remembers when Adam lived at Gray Street, clearly in poor health, she recalls the photo of him in his “leopard”suit was on display.
Title: Re: Adam Brown - Shotts - early 20th C
Post by: shottsman on Thursday 04 January 18 20:07 GMT (UK)
"Shotts History Group had an article on Adam Brown, senior, and junior, in their bulletin ( Volume  4 – 2005). "
I can't find this anywhere. Does anyone have a copy?
Title: Re: Adam Brown - Shotts - early 20th C
Post by: IanIrvine21 on Tuesday 29 January 19 16:04 GMT (UK)
I have the original rear pose picture of Adam Brown, on the back it gives his address in Shotts and the picture is dedicated to his daughter who is my Grandmother.

Surreal to see that same image on the internet!