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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Sussex => Topic started by: Chris in 1066Land on Tuesday 04 May 04 23:53 BST (UK)
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Over the past 15 years I have aquired a large amount of books concerning the Local History of Sussex, especially the Hastings and Lewes area's
Included are
1801 Census for Ticehurst
1831 Census for Ticehurst
1821 Chiddingly Census
1821 East Hoathy Census
1821 East Dean Cencus
1821 Hartfield Census
1821 Census for St Mary, Hastings, East Sussex
1831 Census for St Mary, Hastings, East Sussex
1831 Census for St Clement, Hastings, East Sussex
1831 Census for Uckfield, East Sussex
1821 Hailsham Census
1831 Hailsham Census
1831 Census St John Sub Castro, Lewes
1811 Population, Jury List, Voters List 1832 - St Michael, Lewes
1851 Census for East Sussex - 23 volumes of the June Barnes 1851 Census transcription (160,000+ names) for the eastern Part of the county.
1851 Census for Brighton & District on Fiche - Volume 24 of above.
1841 Census for Eastbourne
1861 Census for Eastbourne
1828 Crown Survey of America Ground / Wastelands - (Over 1000 inhabitants)
1836 - 37 Hastings Registered Electors - listing Name, Trade/Profession & Employer.
Robertson Street & George Street Hastings - 1841, 51, 61, 71, 81 & 91 Census
1838 Withyham Inhabitants
1863 Ewhurst Householders
NEW* Pigot's Trade Directory of Sussex 1832-3-4
I have also acquired Volume 1 – 12 of the PBN 1841 Census transcription for Sussex.
Volume Area Covered
1. Arlington, Hailsham, Herstmonceux, Wartling, Hooe, Ninfield
2. Hollington, Bexhill, Catsfield, Crowhurst, Westfield, Sedlescombe, Ewhurst
3. Pett, Guestling, Fairlight, Ore, Hastings all Saints
4. Whatlington, Mountfield, Battle, Brightling, Dallington, Penhurst, Ashburnham
5. Lamberhurst, Frant
6. Burwash, Ticehurst, Etchington
7. Pevensey, Westham, Willingdon, Jevington, Folkington, Willmington, East Dean, Friston, Seaford, West Dean, Litlington, Lullington, Alfriston
8. Wivelsfield, Ditchling, Westmeston, East Chiltington, Streat, Plumpton, Harnsey, Chailey, Newick, Barcombe, Ringmer
9. Hastings St Michael, St Andrews, Holy Rrinity, St Mary in the Castle (Out bounds), St Mary Magdalen, St Leonards on Sea, St Mary – Bulverhythe
10. Hastings St Clements, St Mary in the Castle.
11. East Grinstead,Worth, Crawley, & West Hoathly
12. Rye, East Guldeford, Iden, Broomhill & Playden
Hastings Union Notice of Marriages 1837 - 1865
Hasting Union Notice of Marriages 1865 - 1879
Hastings Baptisms A - J, 1700 - 1877
Hastings Baptisms K - Y, 1700 - 1877
Burial Register Transcriptions
Hastings, All Saints 1813 - 1853
Hastings, St Clements 1803 - 1856
Hastings, St Mary-in-the-Castle 1828 - 1857
Lewes, St John Sub Castro 1602 - 1993
Lewes, South Malling 1600 - 1998
Lewes, Southover 1671 - 1995
Lewes, All Saints 1602 - 1929
East Sussex Quarter Sessions 1810 - 1854
Baptism Register Transcriptions
Lewes, St John Sub Castro, 1601 - 1999
My personal database of Memorial inscriptions, (Lewes MI's complete with photographs), now amounts to some 5000+ entries - again, mostly in Lewes or Hastings, together with some Burial & Baptismal Register transcriptions.
Other national records that I possess include:
1881 Census transcription
British Isles Vital Records Index - 2nd Edition (IGI)
The Great Universal British Directory of 1799 (first edition - covers the whole Kingdom)
The 1851 Census transcription for Devon, Norfolk & Warwick ONLY
National Burial Index for England & Wales (5 million records)
Numerous records connected with Macclesfield in Cheshire.
Numerous records connected with Nottinghamshire.
I am more than happy to check any of the above records for your ancestors - please contact me through this forum
Chris in 1066Land
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Hello Chris,
Could you please help with early census look ups for my WESTON family?
Most WESTONs being researched appear to come from Mayfield, but my John was born in 1821 in Heathfield.
In 1841 he was single, but where?
By 1851 he was married to Mary COOK (age 24). The marriage occurred in Brightling in 1849. By 1854 he was definitely living at Burwash - Perrymans. There are likely to be 2 children John 6 and William 3.
John was involved in milling as was his father, also John, but I have no information on the elder John or any other siblings.
Thanks
Clive
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Hi Clive
Have read your lookup request over and over again trying to find ways in which I can help you.
Most of the information I have is not of any use to you - plus as yet, I do not have the 1841 census for Heathfield.
I have looked on the 1851 census for Burwash - but he is not there?, although you say he was there in 1854.
Am now going to take a slow look through the rest of the 1851 for East Sussex to see if I can locate them
Chris in 1066Land
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Hi there Clive
Could you please help with early census look ups for my WESTON family?
Found them in Battle Registration District
HO107/ 1636/ Folio 452/ Page 11 – Stonesdown Cot Crofts, Brightling.
WESTON John, Head, Marr, 29, Ag Lab, born Brightling, Sussex
Mary, Wife, Marr, 24, born Brightling
James, Son, Unm, 4, born Brightling
William, Son, Unm, 2, born Brightling
You have an extra child in James, but where is John? - He is down the road staying with his grandparents.
HO107/ 1636/ Folio 437/ Page 24 – Tolesters Cottage, Brightling.
MARCHANT William, Head, Marr, 65, Farmer of 20 Acres, born Brightling
Sarah, Wife, Marr, 66, born Brightling
WESTON, John, Grandson, Unm, 6, born Brightling
HO107/ 1636/ Folio 452/ Page 23 – Tolesters Cottage, Brightling.
MARCHANT Robert, Head, Marr, 58, Ag Lab, born Brightling.
Mary, Wife, Marr, 57, born Brightling
George, Son, Unm, 12, born Brightling
But that now poses a problem as you said -
By 1851 he was married to Mary COOK (age 24). The marriage occurred in Brightling in 1849. By 1854 he was definitely living at Burwash - Perrymans. There are likely to be 2 children John 6 and William 3.
Should it not be Marchant rather than Cook ?
You try to answer 1 problem - it gives you 2 or 3 more
Chris in 1066Land
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Hello Chris,
Yes it does pose more problems, but not quite as you might think!
I knew of James Weston, but he was believed to have died in infancy, I now know that it was after 1851 so I will renew my search for him.
Younger John was not Mary's child, so it does not surprise me he was living with his grandparents, but John's (1821) first wife was Sarah Croft so I am completely surprised by the Marchants.
The Marchant connection I have is as a possible ancestor of John's third wife whom he married in 1859!
There was no elder John in Brightling in 1851, I am beginning to suspect he had died much earlier.
thanks again, any further info around these families in Briightling much appreciated.
Clive
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Hi Chris,
I wonder if you lookup the name DEASON in the 1871, 1891 and 1901 Census for Sussex please. There isn't too many of them as they originate from Cornwall.
Many thanks once again for your kind offer and work.
Kind regards
Rick
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Hi Rick
1891 Census on Line - Deason in Sussex
Database: 1891 England Census
May 7, 2004
10:27 AM
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Name Age in 1891 Birthplace Relationship to head-of-house Civil parish County
Deason, Agnes 50 Brighton, Sussex Wife Preston Sussex
Deason, Ann 67 Bowmore, Hertfordshire Sister-in-law Cuckfield Sussex
Deason, Elizabeth A 51 Penburth, Cornwall Daughter St Andrew Sussex
Deason, Ellen 39 Hastings, Sussex Daughter St Andrew Sussex
Deason, Mary 49 Penburth, Cornwall Daughter St Andrew Sussex
Deason, Rosella 37 Hastings, Sussex Daughter St Andrew Sussex
Deason, Thomas 82 Scilly Isles, Fresco Head St Andrew Sussex
Deason, Thomasina 46 Penburth, Cornwall Daughter St Andrew Sussex
Deason, William 45 Ripe, Sussex Head Preston Sussex
Chris in 1066Land
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Rick
1901 Census - Deason in Sussex
Database: 1901 England Census
May 7, 2004
10:31 AM
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Name Age in 1901 Birthplace Relationship Civil Parish County/Island
Ada Deason 29 Icklesham, Sussex, England Wife Icklesham Sussex
Albert Deason 30 Winchelsea, Sussex, England Head Icklesham Sussex
Alfred Deason 4 East Grinstead, Sussex, England Son East Grinstead Sussex
Anldrie Deason 3 Icklesham, Sussex, England Daughter Icklesham Sussex
Annie Deason 60 Islington, Middlesex, England Boarder St Mary in the Castle Sussex
Charles Deason 32 Hailsham, Sussex, England Head Eastbourne Sussex
Chas Olivier Deason 7 East Grinstead, Sussex, England Son East Grinstead Sussex
Clifford Deason 12 Cardiff, Gloucestershire, England Grandson Southwick Sussex
Elsie H Deason 3 months Hailsham, Sussex, England Daughter Eastbourne Sussex
Emily Deason 32 Forest Row, Sussex, England Wife East Grinstead Sussex
Ethel May Deason 20 Brighton, Sussex, England Servant Preston Sussex
Henry J Deason 53 Wanborough, Wiltshire, England Head Brighton Sussex
Lillian Deason 21 Hackney, London, England Servant Aldrington Sussex
Lois Deason 19 Firle, Sussex, England Servant South Malling Sussex
Louisa Deason 73 Rotherfield, Sussex, England Head Rotherfield Sussex
Lydia Deason 58 Strand, London, England Boarder Brighton Sussex
Martha A Deason 43 Stafford, Staffordshire, England Wife Brighton Sussex
Mary A Deason 33 Hailsham, Sussex, England Wife Eastbourne Sussex
Mary Ann Deason 25 Willingdon, Sussex, England Boarder Brighton Sussex
Perry Deason 11 Cardiff, Gloucestershire, England Grandson Southwick Sussex
Thos Deason 2 East Grinstead, Sussex, England Son East Grinstead Sussex
William Deason 34 East Grinstead, Sussex, England Head East Grinstead Sussex
William Geo Deason 10 East Grinstead, Sussex, England Son East Grinstead Sussex
Chris in 1066Land
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Hi Rick
Hope the 1891 & 1901 Deasons in Sussex helps you with your research.
Chris in 1066Land
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Hi Chris,
I don't suppose you have a Brighton 1841 census? If not I see you have 1851, so please could you look-up a HENRY BRAVERY, cabinet maker and his wife Philadelphia. I'm trying to find Henry's parents, maybe hoping to find an aged parent living with them. Just to prevail a little bit more on your good nature, if you have any parish records for the Brighton, Lewes areas, could you see if there is a possible baptism for Henry, maybe around the early 1800s. I might get lucky and find his parents that way.
Many thanks,
Jane
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Hi there
Have checked the 1851 census for Brighton - but no Bravery on there at all.
The nearest is Edward BRAVEY 34 and his wife Charlotte 32 with their son John aged 10
Sorry
Chris in 1066Land
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Thank you for looking Chris,
Jane
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Hi Cyberbob
In reply to your private message:
If grandmother was 36 when she died in 1936, she should have been born about 1900. Have looked on the 1901 census for an Evelyn Maud Ablitt, but although there are 52 people with the surname Ablitt, non match up with your details. Non of those 52 live in Sussex either.
If Grandfather was born in 1886, he would have been about 4/5 years of age, (depending on which side of the census he was born) on the 1891 census – On the 1891 census . there are 6733 people with the name George Brown of which 52 were born in Buckinghamshire – but only 4 show Beaconsfield as their birth place, one of which is 4 years old with the name George Henry J Brown.
Database: 1891 England Census May 18, 20049:25 AM
Name, Age in 1891, Birthplace, Relationship to head-of-house, Civil parish, County.
Brown, Eliza, 47, Coleshill, Buckinghamshire, Wife, Beaconsfield, Buckinghamshire
Brown, George Henry J, 4, Beaconsfield, Buckinghamshire, Son, Beaconsfield, Buckinghamshire
Brown, George William, 41, Beaconsfield, Buckinghamshire, Head, Beaconsfield, Buckinghamshire
Brown, Gertrude Eliza, 14, Beaconsfield, Buckinghamshire, Daughter, Beaconsfield, Buckinghamshire
(http://imageservice.ancestry.com/iexec/image.x?f=getimage&dbid=6598&path=Buckinghamshire.Beaconsfield.ALL.6.2&mac=00632204436613426270U4b3lcY3vRo=&vx=211&vy=158&vw=842&vh=632&zp=75&qf=mc&rc=&sh=0&sw=0)
In order to see if we have the correct George Henry Brown, you need to find the marriage certificate of George Henry Brown and Evelyn Maud Ablitt
According to your information, the first child Edward was born in 1919, therefore start there and work backwards. The marriage certificate will give the fathers name of both the bride and groom.
Chris in 1066Land
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Hi Chris
Thanks for your help i'll try the marriage route
thanks again
Mick
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Hi Chris
Could I please trouble you to look up on your 1851 census of Brighton for the surname BEEHO. I'm not sure if they will be together but I am looking for William Augustus and his wife Harriet and several children. Any BEEHO entry has to be my family as it is such a rare name - more a matter of proving how not disproving if that makes sense.
Thank you for this wonderful service! :)
Anne-Marie
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Hi Anne-Marie
Have just checked the 1851 census for Brighton (Brighton, Hove, Preston, Patcham, West Blatchington, Hangleton, Portslade, Aldrington, Southwick, Steyning, Old & New Shoreham) without success for your Beeho ancestors.
Not a trace of them anywhere - not even a suggestion of a miss transcription either.
We are not doing very well are we?
Chris in 1066Land
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Hi Chris,
I am looking for the Baptism of a Thomas Smith in Lewes!!! yes, I know - Smith is like looking for a needle in a haystack!
Anyhow, this Thomas Smith was born around 1802 (I have checked 3 census returns for Brighton last week) and his age indicates a birth year of 1802.
I am really keen to make a 'breakthru' with this GGG Grandad of mine if it is at all possible.
Many thanks in advance....
Fosbeck
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Hi Chris
I have only just found this site and it seems you are a godsend to many people. Many thanks for helping us out.
I am researching the Box family and wonder if you can give any information on the following:
James Box (b. 5/8/1824 Ardingly) who married Jane Stoner (b. 9/6/1815 Ditchling). I do know about the lives of their children but all I know of them was that Jane died on 14/8/1875 and I have found James in the 1881-1901 censuses (living in Brighton in 1901). In all these censuses James has recorded his age as 3 years younger than he really was!
John Box (b 1819 Ardingly). James’s brother. Any information would be appreciated as there are many John Box’s around at this time.
Elizabeth Box. This is where I know very little! Elizabeth is James and John’s mother but neither son has a father recorded. There are three Elizabeth Box’s living locally at this time but I have nothing concrete to connect anyone of them. Any information at all would be invaluable.
All the best
Neale Box
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Hi there Neale
Welcome to Rootschat.com and congratulations on your first posting.
Your compliments are appreciated, but we all do our best to help newcomers to the boards and Genealogy.
Unfortunately you have ancestors in the part of the county that I have very little information on except for the 1851 Census.
1851 Census
HO 107/ 1642/ Folio 245/ Page 76 - Ansty Lane, Cuckfield.
BOX James, Head, Marr, 24, Ag Lab, born Ardingly
Jane, WWife, Marr, 34, born Ditchling
Alfred T, Son, Unm, 2, born Cuckfield
Mary A, Dau, Unm, 3months, born Cuckfield
HO 107 1642/ Folio 115/ Page 61 - Tealinghurst Farm, Ardingly, Sussex
BOX William, Head, Widow, 45, Farmer 160acres, born Ardingly
George, Son, nm, 19, Carpenter, Ardingly
John, Son, Unm, 16, Employed on Farm, Adingly
Ann, Dau, Unm, 15, Servant on Farm, Ardingly
Elizabeth, Dau, Unm, 13, Ardingly
James, Son, Unm, 11, born Ardingly
HO 107/ 1642/ Folio 151/ Page 26 - Balcombe Lane, Balcombe, Sussex
BOX Richard, Head, Marr, 28, Sawyer & Hewer, born Ardingly
Sarah, Wife, Mar, 26, born Balcombe
Ann, Dau, Unm, 5, born Balcomb
Ellen, Dau, Unm, 3, Balcombe
HO 107/ 1642/ Folio 108/ Page 16 - Hapstead Green, Ardingly, Sussex
BOX William, Head, Marr, 69, Carpenter, Ardingly
Mary, Wife, Mar, 64, born Balcombe
Chris in 1066Land
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hi again, Chris,
looking for Cuthbert Baker on Eastourne 1861 census please being about 2 years old, he was born Jan. 01, 1859 at sea and his parents also died at sea at the same time (no proof but looking), so looking for proof of his birth, in 1881 census he says born Hastings then 1891 census he says Eastbourne?
Jennifer in Ontario, Canada
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John Cripps was born May 08, 1828 and died on the March 1909 , on 1841 he was 13 born in Richmond (watermen family on thames) then by 1951 he was at stonefield road, st mary in the castle, was married to Anna Reeds April 18, 1851 in hastings, 1861 and 1871 i dont know, 1881 age 52 police sergent, 1891 i dont know, 1901 age 72 retired police sargeant so my question is trying to locate his police records, have you had a chance to see if this exists please, thanks
Jennifer in Ontario, Canada
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Hi there Moon
Sorry about the delay, but been away ancestor hunting in South Wales for a few days (wifes paternal ancestors and their living descendants)
Have checked the 1861 Census for Eastbourne for your Cuthbert Baker, and although there are 14 references to Baker Families; your Cuthbert is not amongst them.
Sorry to be so negative
Chris in 1066Land
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ok, Chris, thanks again, have ordered the LDS film for births and deths at sea so maybe i will find him/them this way, thank you for your time once again
Jennifer
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Hi Geoff
I received your message re extra archives you have in your library.
I would most definately like a lookup for a Hastings Marriage 1837-1865
Mary CHAPMAN and Henry CHAPMAN should be about 1858-59.
Also a Hastings Baptism 1700-1877
Ann CHAPMAN c1859 daughter of the above.
This family could also be on the 1861 Eastbourne Census. Henry died within the next couple of years.
Mary CHAPMAN then married Moses DOWNER.
Ann Chapman's death certificate & her immigration records indicate she lived in Eastbourne as a child.
Sorry for the delay in answering your query, but we have been away for a few days in South Wales looking for the wife’s paternal ancestors and meeting descendants of same.
The “Hastings Union Notices of Marriages” CD is a list with actual images of the register of people who were giving notice that within the next 3 months a marriage is intended to take place at the Registry Office – many more marriages took place by the calling of banns in the Anglican Churches which it does not include - but your Mary / Henry Chapman are not included; therefore we can assume they married in Church or Chapel.
Chris in 1066Land
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Hi Geoff
Also a Hastings Baptism 1700-1877
Ann CHAPMAN c1859 daughter of the above.
The Baptism CD covers the following churches and dates
All Saints 1700 – 1851
Croft Chapel 1818 – 1829
Ore 1700 – 1837
St Clements 1700 – 1869
Mary in Castle 1828 – 1868
Methodist 1839 - 1877
Could not locate a Mary Chapman within those indexed dates.
This family could also be on the 1861 Eastbourne Census. Henry died within the next couple of years.
Mary CHAPMAN then married Moses DOWNER.
Have checked the 1861 census for Eastbourne without success for your Chapman Family – there is also no one with the surname DOWNER listed either.
Sorry
Chris in 1066Land
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Hi Chris,
Thank you for your efforts on my behalf, really appreciated.
Cheers
Geoff
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Hi Chris
Hope you can help, I'm not sure if Friston is covered in 1821 East Dean Census but I am looking for John Bartholomew born around 1800 and ancestors. He marrried Mary Ann Wildish (born 1805 East Grinstead) in Friston 2/5/1824 so I am hoping he was living with family in 1821.
Many thanks
Lel
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Hi Lel
Dont know if this is of any help to you
Population of Friston Sussex in 1831
BARTHOLOMEW John, 40
Mary, 28
Louisa, 14
Alfred, ?
Thomas, 5
Henry, 2
Sharing accommodation with William Everest (46) and his wife Mary (36) with 6 children aged 17 down to 10 months
Chris in 1066Land
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Thanks Chris
It is the right family it helps me get a bit further. I don't suppose there are any other Bartholomews lurking there?
Lel
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Hi Lel
There is just one other on this census cd
Population of East Dean, Sussex, 1831
BARTHOLOMEW James, 26
Selina, 24
John, 8
Jane, 5
James, 3
By the way, the 1841 for Friston gives John, 50, Ag Lab; Mary, 35; Thomas, 15; Henry, 12; Ann, 9; and George 3
Chris in 1066Land
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Thanks Chris. Much appreciated.
Lel
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Hi Chris
Wondered if you could have a look and see if you can find anything pre 1881 census for the following family
MARCHANT
William (dad) born 1829 in Mayfield Sussex
Emily Eliza (mum, maiden name unknown) born 1837 in Mayfield Sussex
Edward (son) born 1860 in somewhere in Sussex
Frederick (son) born 1865 in Mayfield Sussex
Winefred (daughter) born 1871 in Bylip Middx
Charles (son) born 1873 in Oxted Surrey
Emily (daughter) born 1876 in East Peckham Kent
In 1881 they were living in Beltring East Peckham Kent but they must have lived in Mayfield Sussex pre 1871.
In 1901 they were living back in Mayfield in Fletching St (well not all of them, just dad, mum and Emily)
Would be very grateful for any info you can find
Thanks
Patches
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Hi there Patches
Here is 'dad' William on the 1851 census in Mayfield before he married Emily.
HO107/1640 / Folio 177/ Page 21 - Little Steel, Mayfield.
MARCHANT William, Head, Marr, Farmer of 100acres, employing 5, born Mayfield, Sussex
Sarah, Wife, Marr, 59, born Rotherfield
Eliza, Dau, Unm, 25, born Mayfield
William, Son, Unm, 22, born Mayfield
Edward, Son, Unm, 20, Draper, born Mayfield
Richard, Son, Unm, 16, Miller, born Mayfield
Chris in 1066Land
Unfortunately I do not as yet have access to the 1841 for Mayfield.
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Hi Chris
Thanks everso, Dad William is my GGGG Grandfather so it was very nice to meet him at last.
Thank you for taking the time to look for these Marchants and for my Bardens which you also helped with, if it wasn't for you I'd never have found them.
Thanks again
Patches
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I am looking for a George and Elizabeth Roots who were in Biddenden Kent in 1825-1830 and may of been in Sussex. This family seems to of stayed in the Weald of Kent and Sussex areas.
Does the Weald of Sussex show anything in the 1831,41 and 51 census for this couple ???
Thank you
Bob
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Hi Chris,
Please could I trouble you to look at the 1851 census for Brighton...
I am looking for: William Braby age: 64. Wife: Ann Braby from Singleton.
I need to ascertain who else was living in this household + the address.
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Hi Fosbeck
The part of the 1851 Brighton Census that I possess only covers:
Steyning, Old & New Shoreham, Hove, Preston, Patcham, Blatchington, Hangleton, Portslade, Aldrington, Southwick.
Saying that, there is no reference to any BRABY on the above.
Sorry for being so negative
Chris in 1066Land
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Thanks Chris for trying.
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Hi Chris,
Could you please lookup LEVETT in the following references:
1831 & 1811 St John Sub Castro, plus Population 1811, Jury List & Voters 1832
East Sussex Quarter Sessions 1810 – 1854
Could you pleaase also advise if there is a Henry ADAMS in the QS too.
One last question what Catholic church and cemetery existed in/around the Lewes area in the early 1840s.
Many thanks for your time.
Kind regards
Rick
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Hi there Rick
Could you please lookup LEVETT in the following references:
1831 Census for St John Sub Castro
LEVETT Edmund, 4 Males, 3 Females, 1 Family
1811 Population of Lewes - Zilch.
1832 Jury List & Voters - Zilch
Will check the QS records in a bit
Chris in 1066Land
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Hi again
East Sussex Quarter Sessions 1810 – 1854
Offenders
Name, Age, Occupation, Residence, Year, Reference, Victims.
LEVETT John, 14, Labourer, Berwick, 1835, 828, John KING
LEVETT John, 25, Guard to Coach, -, 1845, 909, Henry CLOAKE
LEVETT John, 22, Servant, Lewes, 1842, 884, William ROSE
LEVETT Lucy, 21, Married, Lewes, 1849, 939, Rev F TEED (Her Master)
LEVETT Sarah, -, Single, Lullington, 1820, 762, Wlm WOODHAMS
Victims
There are about half a dozen entries of LEVETT victims but non named John.
Could you please also advise if there is a Henry ADAMS in the QS too.
There are Henry Adams in both Offenders and Victims - which did you want?
Chris in 1066Land
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Hi Chris,
I was hoping to ask you some questions about my family who I believe were born and resided in Seaford, Sussex. the names that I have at this stage are:
Charles Joseph Bravery: Born 15/9/1985,
Charles Willy Bravery (Charles J Bravery's son)
Charles Willy was/is I believe my Great Great Grandfather. He moved to Australia when my Great Grandmother was 3, she is now 97 and still living in Australia.
Her mother was Agnes Levett born 17/12/1880
Angnes' mother and father were:
William Levett from Meresfield Sussex and Agnes Gurr
I think that Charles J Bravery built the Ritz and the Empire theatres in Seaford, owned a furniture company Barvery and son and were fairly well known members of the town.
I am looking for any information you may have on any of the family members, direct decendants, parents, family trees, anything! My nan and her brother are trying to find out their background.
Thanks for any assistance which you can provide!
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Hi there Simonerobertson
Welcome to Rootschat
Think this is your family:
Her mother was Agnes Levett born 17/12/1880
Angnes' mother and father were:
William Levett from Meresfield Sussex and Agnes Gurr
RG12/ 786/ Folio 51/ Page 17 - Old Lands, Buxted, Sussex.
Name, Age in 1891, Birthplace, Relationship to head-of-house, Civil parish, County View
Levett William, 61, Arlington, Sussex, Head, Buxted Sussex
Levett Agnes, 55, Isfield, Sussex, Wife, Buxted Sussex
Levett William, 36, Isfield, Sussex, Son, Buxted Sussex
Levett Henry, 28, Laughton, Sussex, Son, Buxted Sussex
Levett Philip, 20, Isfield, Sussex, Son, Buxted Sussex
Levett Job, 18, Isfield, Sussex, Son, Buxted Sussex
Levett Albert, 15, Buxted, Sussex, Son, Buxted Sussex
Levett Edward, 12, Buxted, Sussex, Son, Buxted Sussex
Levett Agnes, 10, Buxted, Sussex, Daughter, Buxted Sussex
Chris in 1066Land
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Hi again
Here is the same family on the 1901 Census:
RG13/ 902/ Folio 40/ Page 2 - The Cottage at Herons Ghyll, Buxted, Sussex
Name Age in 1901 Birthplace Relationship Civil Parish County/Island View Census? .?
William Levett 71 Arlington, Sussex, England Head Buxted Sussex
Agnes Levett 66 Isfield, Sussex, England Wife Buxted Sussex
Henry Levett 38 Laughton, Sussex, England Son Buxted Sussex
Philip Levett 30 Isfield, Sussex, England Son Buxted Sussex
Job Levett 28 Isfield, Sussex, England Son Buxted Sussex
Edward Levett 22 Buxted, Sussex, England Son Buxted Sussex
Incidentally, Buxted is in the Registration District of Meresfield.
Chris in 1066Land
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Hi Again
In the 1901 census above, Agnes was not at home, she had aquired a position as a servant to the owner of the 'Bay Laundry' in Willesden, Sussex.
RG13/ 1217/ Folio 80/ Page 55 - Bay Laundry, Harlesdon Road, Willesden
Chris in 1066Land
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Hi
Going backwards again - Here is the Levett Family in the 1881 census and young Agnes is just 3months old - bless her
Household Record 1881 British Census
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
William LEVETT Head M Male 52 Arlington, Sussex, England Gamekeeper & Woodreve
Agness LEVETT Wife M Female 46 Isfield, Sussex, England
Fredrick LEVETT Son U Male 15 Laughton, Sussex, England Ag Lab
Philip LEVETT Son Male 10 Isfield, Sussex, England Scholar
Job LEVETT Son Male 8 Isfield, Sussex, England Scholar
Albert LEVETT Son Male 5 Buxted, Sussex, England
Edward LEVETT Son Male 2 Buxted, Sussex, England
Agness LEVETT Daur Female 3 m Buxted, Sussex, England
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Source Information:
Dwelling Brows Brook
Census Place Buxted, Sussex, England
Family History Library Film 1341249
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 1054 / 46
Page Number 6
I do not have access to the 1871 and 1861 census, but I do have transcript copies of the 1851 and 1841 for East Sussex - so will look on them for the Levett as William should be 22 and Agnes should be 16, but listed as Agnes Gurr.
Chris in 1066Land
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Hi again
Here are William & Agnes from the 1851 Census Transcription:
HO107/ 1638/ Folio 4/ Page 3 – Old Poor House, Arlington, Sussex.
LEVETT William, Head, Unm, 21, Ag Lab, born Arlington, Sussex
Sarah, Sister, Unm, 16, Ag Lab, born Arlington
Benjamin, Brother, Unm, Ag Lab, born Arlington
Jesse, Brother, Unm, 11, Ag Lab, born Arlington
Mary, Sister, Unm, 8, born Arlington
Philip, Brother, Unm, 6, born Arlington
HO107/ 1638/ Folio 388/ Page 87 – Isfield, Sussex
GURR Trayton, Head, Marr, 52, Ag Lab, born Isfield, Sussex
Cherry, Wife, Marr, 42, born Ninfield, Sussex
Agnes, Dau, Unm, 15, born Isfield
John, Son, Unm, 10, Scholar, born Isfield
Elizabeth, Dau, Unm, 7, Scholar, born Isfield
Maria, Dau, Unm, 5, born Isfield
Caroline, Dau, Unm, 2, born Isfield
Chris in 1066Land
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And Finally
1841 Census.
HO107/1115/ 8 Folio 1 – 12 – Polhills, Arlington, Sussex.
LEVETT John, 35, Ag Lab, born in Sussex
Ann, 35, born in Sussex
Thomas, 15, Sussex
John, 13, Sussex
William, 11, Sussex
Emma, 9, Sussex
Sarah, 6, Sussex
Benjamin, 4, Sussex
Jesse, 2, Sussex
The 1841 Census only gave very brief details like Name, Age, M or F, Occupation, whether born in County (Yes / No)
Adults over 13 had their ages rounded down to the nearest 5, so Williams Father John could have been 36, 37, 38 or 39 – like wise his mother Ann.
Something terrible must have happened to the parents for them to be missing on the 1851 census where William was listed as the Head and in charge of the family.
Sorry, but as yet, I do not have the 1841 Census for Isfield.
Hope that has helped you with your research and perhaps names and places may help jog Great Granmothers Memory - bless her, try to talk to her as much as you can, plus tape record everything she remembers.
Chris in 1066Land
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Hi there Sandy
Charles Joseph Bravery: Born 15/9/1985,
Charles Willy Bravery (Charles J Bravery's son)
Charles Willy was/is I believe my Great Great Grandfather. He moved to Australia when my Great Grandmother was 3, she is now 97 and still living in Australia.
If Charles Willy was born on 15/9/1895 instead of Charles Joseph as you listed above, then this looks to be your family.
1891 England Census
Bravery, Seaford
Name Age in 1891 Birthplace Relationship to head-of-house Civil parish County
Bravery , Annie 32 Seaford, Sussex Daughter-in-law Seaford Sussex
Bravery , Charles P 29 Newhaven, Sussex Son Seaford Sussex
Bravery , Charles W 5 Seaford, Sussex Grandson Seaford Sussex
Bravery , Emma 56 Arlington, Sussex Wife Seaford Sussex
Bravery , Frances M 4.12 Seaford, Sussex Grandaughter Seaford Sussex
Bravery , George 52 Brighton, Sussex Head Seaford Sussex
Bravery , George H 3 Seaford, Sussex Grandson Seaford Sussex
Bravery , Isabella 17 Bradford, Yorkshire Daughter Seaford Sussex
Bravery , Lilian E 2 Seaford, Sussex Grandaughter Seaford Sussex
Scan and Reference details to follow
Chris in 1066Land
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Hi Again
Here is the scan and full reference details of your Bravery Family in Seaford.
RG12/ 775/ Folio 108/ Page 34 - Burlington House, Broad Street, Seaford.
If you can confirm that this is the correct family, I will then try to locate them in the 1901 Census, then follow them back through the 1881, 1851 and possibly 1841 census for you - but I do know there were NILL Bravery surnames in Seaford in 1851; looks as though they may have been in Brighton though.
Incidentally family occupation was 'Upholsterers'
Chris in 1066Land
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Hi Chris,
That looks like my family! Thanks so much! I will send all the information home to my mum so she can talk to my Great Grandma about it. My Great Grandma hasn't been back to England since she was three. I think Agnes was the maid who married the son. The son was then taken out of his fathers will and they left for Australia. If you could have a look at the Brighton Bravery's as well that would be great.
Thanks again!
Simone
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Hello Bob
Re your enquiry
I am looking for a George and Elizabeth Roots who were in Biddenden Kent in 1825-1830 and may of been in Sussex. This family seems to of stayed in the Weald of Kent and Sussex areas.
Does the Weald of Sussex show anything in the 1831,41 and 51 census for this couple
First of all my apologies for not answering this query earlier, somehow or other it slipped through the net for which I do apologise.
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At the present moment I do not have access to any census for Kent in the time period that you require.
The surname Rootes / Roots is quite common in Sussex and Kent in the 19th Century - unfortunately you do not provide much information about George or Elizabeth that would enable finding the correct couple in the very basic information contained in the early census.
A Good site for information on the Weald of Sussex is
www.thesussexweald.org
Sorry I can not be more helpful at the moment
Chris in 1066Land
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Hi there Simone
Glad that it was/is the correct family.
I have a few errands to do during the day, but all being well, will do further research for you later this afternoon and earlier this evening before the football starts on tellly.
Chris in 1066Land
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Hi Simone
Looks like Charles Willey prefers to be called Willey
Database: 1901 England Census
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Name Age in 1901 Birthplace Relationship Civil Parish County/Island
Charles Bravery 38 Seaford, Sussex, England Head Seaford Sussex
Fredy Bravery 8 Seaford, Sussex, England Son Seaford Sussex
George Bravery 13 Seaford, Sussex, England Son Seaford Sussex
Lilian Bravery 11 Seaford, Sussex, England Daughter Seaford Sussex
Maude Bravery 10 Seaford, Sussex, England Daughter Seaford Sussex
Rosina Bravery 38 East Grinstead, Sussex, England Wife Seaford Sussex
Wilfred Bravery 1 Seaford, Sussex, England Son Seaford Sussex
Willey Bravery 15 Seaford, Sussex, England Son Seaford Sussex
Albert Watson 2 Brighton, Sussex, England Nephew Seaford Sussex
Birtha Watson 24 East Grinstead, Sussex, England Visitor Seaford Sussex
Edith Watson 10 Purley, Surrey, England Stepdaughter Seaford Sussex
Chris in 1066Land
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Hi again
Here is reference details and scan from 1901 census
RG13/ 886/ Folio 35/ Page 31 - Broad Street, Seaford, Sussex
Chris in 1066Land
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Hi again
Just noticed that the wife of Charles has changed from Annie born in Seaford on the 1891 census to Rosina born in East Grinstead on the 1901 census and George now has a stepdaughter Edith Watson.
So it looks like a second marriage.
The 1901 also shows that they now had an established Furniture making business in Seaford which verifies your earlier information:
"I think that Charles J Bravery built the Ritz and the Empire theatres in Seaford, owned a furniture company Barvery and son and were fairly well known members of the town."
Chris in 1066Land
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Hi Again
The 1881 census for Seaford shows Charles Joseph as a single man, still at home
Household:
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
George BRAVERY Head M Male 42 Brighton, Sussex, England Furniture Broker
Emma BRAVERY Wife M Female 48 Arlington, Sussex, England Brokers Wife
Charles Joseph BRAVERY Son U Male 18 Newhaven, Sussex, England Marine Store Keeper
John Burgess BRAVERY Son U Male 16 Seaford, Sussex, England Grocer
George Henry BRAVERY Son U Male 15 Newhaven, Sussex, England Laberour
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Source Information:
Dwelling High Street
Census Place Seaford, Sussex, England
Family History Library Film 1341247
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 1040 / 100
Page Number 10
Chris in 1066Land
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Hi Chris,
That's the problem I have with this Roots family. The only other information is George father a son with Mary Harris at Cranbrook in 1824. I have the bastardy papers on this. She was born 1805 and I am assuming he should of been at least 21 because he was a carpenter. This would put his age at least at 1803 - 1795. I am trying doing a sweep of all possible George's in the Weald.
Thank you for the information.
Bob
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Hi Chris and SimoneRobertson,
I can go further with the LEVETT connect back to the late 1500s. Simone, I would be very interested if you get in contact with me so that I can send you the information at the follwing
e-mail address removed to prevent spamming; Please use the Private Message facility - Global Moderator.
or through my website.
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Hi Chris,
Many thanksfor for latest lookups regards LEVETT. The following is in answer to your questions:
Victims
There are about half a dozen entries of LEVETT victims but non named John.
Answer: Could you please send me the list of victims too as I did not know this existed.
Could you please also advise if there is a Henry ADAMS in the QS too.
There are Henry Adams in both Offenders and Victims - which did you want?
Answer: Henry ADAMS offender in March 1838.
One last question what Catholic church and cemetery existed in or very nearby Lewes area in the early 1840s.
Many thanks for all of your time. Your work is very useful to me.
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Hi there Rick
Answer: Could you please send me the list of victims too as I did not know this existed.
Victim, Year, Reference, Offender, Age, Occupation, Residence
Levett Charles, 1821, 767, Colbran Thomas (15) & William (14)
Levett George, 1845, 911, Beard William, 26, Labourer, Arlington
.. .. 1845, 911, Bradbrook William, 19, Miller, Arlington.
Levett Hetty, 1821, 769, Judd Henry
Levett J, 1850, 946, Vaughan Caroline, 17, Single, Brighton (Her Master)
Levett William, 1829, 798, Selden John, 29, Labourer, Bodiam
Levett William, 1828, 794, Gutsell James, 16, Labourer, Ewehurst
Chris in 1066Land
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Hi again Rick
Could you please also advise if there is a Henry ADAMS in the QS too.
There are Henry Adams in both Offenders and Victims - which did you want?
Answer: Henry ADAMS offender in March 1838.
Only 1 entry - Henry Adams aged 35 Labourer of Portslade in 1844.
One last question what Catholic church and cemetery existed in or very nearby Lewes area in the early 1840s.
To the best of my knowledge, it was St Michaels in the High Street of Lewes, second nearest would be in Brighton
St Michael-in-Lewes.
This church stands in the busy High Street of Lewes, at the foot of the mound bearing the keep of the Norman Castle, and is distinguished by its slender shingled spire rising from the top of a round flint tower (only two others like it in Sussex). Believed to have been instituted as ‘the church of the castle’, the expression “tanquam matrici ecclesie” (Mother Church) in the 16th century seems to imply that it held a position of seniority in the town. By the time of the Reformation, St Michaels was in a deplorable condition and its fortunes suffered another serious setback during the Puritan revolution as the citizens of the town remained predominantly Dissenters. In 1748 extensive building works were carried out (rebuilding of South Aisle, with two doors onto the street) and from the incumbency of Frederick Teed (1841 – 1863) a number of changes began to be made to the liturgy and furnishings which reflected the catholicising influence of Newman and Pusey. Much of the churches present-day character is thanks to the Rev Edgar Herman Cross (1877 – 1891)
Hope that helps
Chris in 1066Land