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Title: Lane family-look up 1891 please
Post by: Dannemois on Tuesday 08 September 09 13:58 BST (UK)
Mary Lane  head  widow  43  born Pwlldu Monmouthshire 
Thomas, 17
John, 16
Elizabeth, 14
Mary Ann, 13
Jane, 10
Rachel Ann, 7
all born Pwlldu

Can someone please locate family on the 1891

Thanks
Title: Re: Lane family-look up 1891 please
Post by: Ecneps on Tuesday 08 September 09 14:39 BST (UK)
Have just realised that the ages you've given are from the 1881 census  :)


Possible for Thomas:

1891  RG12 Piece 4349  Folio 18 Page 7     
10, Long Rank, Llanwenarth Ultra, Pwlldu, Monmouthshire

LANE
Thomas     head     mar 27  Coal Miner      Pwlldu
Margaret    wife      mar 22                              Pwlldu
 

Barbara
Title: Re: Lane family-look up 1891 please
Post by: Ecneps on Tuesday 08 September 09 14:42 BST (UK)
1891  RG12  Piece 4349 Folio 19  Page 9
25, Long Rank, Llanwenarth Ultra, Pwlldu, Monmouthshire

LANE
John     head  unm 26    Coalminer    Pwlldu Monmouthshire 
Mary    mother  widow 56                 Pwlldu  Monmouthshire
Rachel    dau        unm  17                    Scranton  United States 

checked image, Rachel's birthplace is correct, but I think 'dau' means Mary's daughter not John's


Barbara

Title: Re: Lane family-look up 1891 please
Post by: Dannemois on Tuesday 08 September 09 17:13 BST (UK)
Hi Barbara
Sorry for misleading you, I should have said the details were transcribed from the 1881.

Many thanks for the 1891 details and thanks for the entry for Thomas & Margaret, which is more than I expected.  If it is not too much trouble I wonder if I could ask for the 1901 details?

Regards
Roy
Title: Re: Lane family-look up 1891 please
Post by: Ecneps on Tuesday 08 September 09 17:31 BST (UK)
1901 
RG13 Piece 4931  Folio 18 Page 7     
24, Long Rank, Pwlldu, Llanwenarth Ultra, Monmouthshire
LANE
Thomas head mar  37 Coal Hewer 
Margaret wife mar 32 
Thomas    son 10
John            "    8 
Mary E    dau 6 
Samuel    son 4 
Frances R  daug 13
Naomi      dau 1     
all born   Pwlldu

Title: Re: Lane family-look up 1891 please
Post by: wozzle on Tuesday 08 September 09 17:38 BST (UK)
there is a marriage of a jane lane in 1890 in abergavenny which would be the right dist for where they were in 1881
on the same page is david partt or parry will check the 1891 to see if i can find this couple.
Title: Re: Lane family-look up 1891 please
Post by: Ecneps on Tuesday 08 September 09 17:42 BST (UK)
Can't see Mary or son John in 1901

Rachel married in 1899  Jun 1899  Abergavenny    11a   109   
EMERY    Harry    LANE    Rachel   


1901 census RG13 Piece 5021  Folio 134 Page 3      
12, (Post Office), School Street, Gelligaer, Glamorganshire
James  PRICE   head  mar 57   Coal Hewer  Newland Parish Gloucestershire
Anne       "        wife   mar 57                         Llanwarna Par  Monmouthshire    
William JONES   stepson unm 32  Coal Hewer     Llanwarna Par
Harry    "           "         "     22             "                "
Rachel EMERY  niece    mar  26          America U S A  British Subject
Henry      "       nephew  "    26  Coal Hewer    Blaenavon Monmouthshire  
 
 
Barbara     
Title: Re: Lane family-look up 1891 please
Post by: wozzle on Tuesday 08 September 09 17:43 BST (UK)
they are there in 1891 she is aged 20 so the right age
only one problem i cannot make out her birthplace
maybe SKS could have a look
1891
jane parry
RG12/4349/40/13
will see if they are on the 1901
Title: Re: Lane family-look up 1891 please
Post by: Ecneps on Tuesday 08 September 09 17:45 BST (UK)
Will check after tea Mick, if you haven't found them by then  :)

Barbara
Title: Re: Lane family-look up 1891 please
Post by: wozzle on Tuesday 08 September 09 17:48 BST (UK)
ecneps think i have found them in 1901 she is down as british subject american
so probably not her.
Title: Re: Lane family-look up 1891 please
Post by: Ecneps on Tuesday 08 September 09 19:03 BST (UK)
Hi Mick,  if you look at the 1901 and 1891 I found, Rachel is American, British Subject but in 1881 she was b. Pwlldu

Title: Re: Lane family-look up 1891 please
Post by: Ecneps on Tuesday 08 September 09 19:13 BST (UK)
1891 RG12  Piece 4349  Folio 40 Page 13   
Middle Coed Cae, Llanover, Garnddzus, Monmouthshire

PARRY
David  head mar 23  Coal Miner     Blaenavon Monmouthshire 
Jane  wife    mar 20                            Pensylvania America    
 

1901  RG13 Piece 4932  Folio 125  Page 35 
2, Upper Woodland Street, Blaenavon, Monmouthshire
PARRY
David   head mar 33   Coal Hewer     Blaenavon Monmouthshire
Jane    wife   mar 30                         America (British Subject)
Gladys  dau         10  School             Blaenavon Monmouthshire 
John     son          8            "                          "
Alice     dau          6         "                           "
Jessie   dau         3                                      "


Barbara
Title: Re: Lane family-look up 1891 please
Post by: wozzle on Tuesday 08 September 09 19:18 BST (UK)
ha so could well be her
1901
RG13/4932/125/35
david parry age 33. b. blaenavon. occ. coal hewer. head
jane age 30. b. brit.sub. america. wife.
gladys age 10. b. blaenavon. daughter.
john age 8. b. ditto. son.
alice age 6. b. ditto. daughter.
jessie age 3. b. ditto. daughter.
living at;2,upper woodland street, blaenavon,monmouthshire.
Title: Re: Lane family-look up 1891 please
Post by: wozzle on Tuesday 08 September 09 19:19 BST (UK)
oops sorry barbara
i saw that you posted 1891 i did not see the one underneath?
Title: Re: Lane family-look up 1891 please
Post by: Ecneps on Tuesday 08 September 09 19:24 BST (UK)
That's ok!  You see in 1891 Rachel was born Scranton, America.  I just goggled that and Scranton is in Philadelphia, which is where it says Jane was born, so think we've got the right girls.

So in 1901 we're missing son John, mother Mary, she may have died by then, and daughter Mary Ann - wonder if she was born USA also?

 :)  Barbara
Title: Re: Lane family-look up 1891 please
Post by: Ecneps on Tuesday 08 September 09 19:31 BST (UK)
marriage Sep 1890 Abergavenny    11a   101
 Lane    Mary Ann      to either    Dicks    Albert   or  Jones    William        
 other spouse Mary Annie Brown

in 1891 Mary Ann Dicks is born Llanarth

checking for Jones - not found, too many!


Barbara
Title: Re: Lane family-look up 1891 please
Post by: wozzle on Tuesday 08 September 09 19:52 BST (UK)
there is a death of a john lane in 1900 aged 36 the death was regd in abergavenny which was the dist he was in in 1891.
Title: Re: Lane family-look up 1891 please
Post by: wozzle on Tuesday 08 September 09 19:53 BST (UK)
so if these are right just the mother mary to go.
Title: Re: Lane family-look up 1891 please
Post by: Ecneps on Tuesday 08 September 09 19:54 BST (UK)
There's one for a Mary but she may be too young unless a mistake

death Sep 1897 Abergavenny    11a   30
Lane    Mary aged    55   


That's about all of them then, well done Mick  :)
Title: Re: Lane family-look up 1891 please
Post by: wozzle on Tuesday 08 September 09 19:59 BST (UK)
yes i saw that one not sure though
there is another one in gloucestershire, monmouthshire but the dist is chepstow died in 1899 aged 65 which is nearer to her age in censuses
but why chepstow?
Title: Re: Lane family-look up 1891 please
Post by: Ecneps on Tuesday 08 September 09 20:02 BST (UK)
A shrugging shoulders smiley is called for!

This will have to do  :-\

Wait to see if Dannemois needs more, think probably not as he is researching people born Pwlldu I think

Barbara
Title: Re: Lane family-look up 1891 please
Post by: Dannemois on Wednesday 09 September 09 19:30 BST (UK)
You pair have rewritten the meaning of such phrases as 'getting carried away' and  'give an inch, take a mile'.  Seriously though what a wonderful job, I'm over the moon with this one ::) and I have to agree with Barbara we could do with a whole row of new smiley's for us mere mortals to use in showing our appreciation. 

Many many thanks to you both for the work you have done on this one from a very grateful amateur researcher. ;D

Kind Regards
Roy