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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Lanarkshire => Topic started by: celtclogs on Wednesday 09 September 09 13:25 BST (UK)
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Would some kind person help me some of my Flood family Are from High Church Glasgow,I am from Glasgow. But I have never heard off it.I am a shamed to say. :-[ :-[ :-[
I just haven't a clue, I have been looking for a while now.
please help,As it is driving me nuts
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The "High Church" in Glasgow was one of three congregations which originally split the Cathedral between them. later they were to be the sole congregation.
Technically the Cathedral shouldn't be referred to as a cathedral but rather The High Kirk.
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Don't be ashamed Celtclogs, most Gleska folk have never heard of High Church. Did you find the reference to that name on a birth, marriage or death certificate? Or perhaps an on-line 1851 - 61 or 71 census?
If you did, then it simply refers to a civil registration district that covered Townhead and part of Dennistoun (roughly). It only existed from 1855 - 1873.
High Church (or sometimes High Kirk) was also a term used in the Old Parochial Registers and you will find that the GRO pre 1855 reference to that is 644/1. It covered (again, roughly) the area from modern-day Springburn, down the High St to the Clyde, sort of inner-city.
No one ever said they came from High Church! Townhead, Cowlairs, Dennistoun yes, so don't think you're any less a Glaswegian!
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I am a shamed to say. :-[ :-[ :-[
You and me both ::) One minute I think I know the districts , next minute I'm drowning again....(in maps) ;D
A belated welcome to Rootschat.
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Thank's all For your help.
Lodger I have PM to you, hope you get it , :-[ I am new to this.
toots. I Just know how you feel, :( But we have to keep going on.and not give up ;D
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Thank You all It is now COMPLETED :)
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Thank you Lodger
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Thank you to Lodger for the explanation re HIGH CHURCH. I had a notation that my father's mother was married in HIGH CHURCH, when in fact it was in the C of S at 35 Roslea Dr., Dennistoun. There are two churches (or were, for who knows now what has happened to those areas!) on Roslea, one at the corner of Whitevale St., and the other at Whitehill St. (a little head game by somebody to confuse everyone!).
This explanation about what constitutes the HIGH CHURCH has been very helpful as I was hunting all over the globe for it on Roslea Dr. I still don't know the name of the church, however, except that it was Church of Scotland.
Any suggestions?
Maisie
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The church in Whitehill Street was possibly the United Presbyterian Church part of the dissenting churches which later reunited with the Church of Scotland and is now known as Dennistoun Blackfrairs Church of Scotland.
There was also a United Free Church in Whitevale Street.
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Well, thank you for your reply. The marriage certificate for my forebears indicates that the marriage was conducted according to the forms of the Church of Scotland. This was in 1873. I suppose I'll have to research to find out when the "Wee Free" and the United Presbyterians did or did not join forces with the C of S. If memory serves me correctly, I think the United Free denomination is still autonomous.
I made an error in location, the two churches were off Whitehill Street and Armadale St.
which was a continuation of Whitevale St.,, Yet another church was on Whitevale St. "in front" of Bathgate St, Three churches, then, at Roslea/Whitehill; Roslea and Armadale, and another church at Whitevale (in front of) Bathgate St.
In looking at this map page I count at least 10 churches in the grid covering Dennistoun, Bridgeton and Camlachie. I wonder how many are still viable.
Again, thank you for your reply.
Maisie
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Few of the churches remained viable and several combined their congregations ... I think the latest is the Dennistoun Trinity Church ... although its been a few years since I have carried out any work in that area.
In 1847 the Secession Church and the Relief Church combined to become the United Presbyterian Church.
In 1900 the Free Church joined with the United Presbyterian Church to become the United Free Church.
A minority did not join that group and continue today as the Free Church of Scotland.
In 1929 the United Free Church rejoined the Established Church (the Church of Scotland). A minority didn't go into that union and continue today as the United Free Church.
As these congregations split they each built their own church buildings (in some cases trying to outdo the existing buildings) which has led to the glut of church buildings in some areas.
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According to a marriage certificate I have on Scotland’s people which states
According to the forms of the free church 36 whitevale street
My 3x Great grandparents where married there in dec 1873
This research is pretty cool
And hi everyone I’m just new to roots today
Karen
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Hi Karen
At 36 Whitevale St, the 1871 census showed a Rev James Finlay, Minister Of Camlachie Free Church living there with his family. He shows still there on the 1875 Valuation Rolls. A Rev John Hamond shows there in the next online Valuation Rolls of 1885.
Just for background here:
Camlachie Free Church, later Whitevale
History—
The church of Camlachie was vacant at the Disruption but the congregation “came out”. They continued to worship in the church, where they were joined for a time by the Free Church people from Shelleston, until deprived of it in 1849. Then they met in Camlachie schoolroom while their own church in the Gallowgate was being built. It was opened in 1850. A house at Whitevale was gifted by Mr. John Brown for a manse. In 1880 church hall and vestry were added. In 1890 the old manse was sold and the proceeds applied towards purchase of a new manse in Broompark Terrace. The church was several times renovated and improved. Active mission work has always been carried on. This was known as Camlachie Free Church till about 1879 when the name was changed to Whitevale.
Membership: 1848, 250; 1900, 500.
Source: Annals of the Free Church of Scotland, 1843–1900, ed. Rev. William Ewing, D.D., 2 vols. pub. 1914. Family History Library Film #918572. More details may be given in the source including a list of ministers.
Records— Years FHL Film Number
Deacons Court Minutes 1844–1856 1485042 item 2
www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/Glasgow_Free_Presbyterian_Churches
Monica