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Wales (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Wales => Carmarthenshire => Topic started by: Dannemois on Wednesday 09 September 09 22:01 BST (UK)
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Hi
I am researching David Lewis, Clergyman C of E. born Carmarthenshire. I would appreciate help in locating him on the early census.
Residing at Plasyberth on the 1881C for Mydrim, Carmarthen [RG11/5401/64/10
David Lewis, head, 50, local preacher, b. Mydrim, Carmarthen
Mary Lewis, wife, 54, preacher’s wife, b. Mydrim
Jonah Lewis, son, 11, scholar, b. Mydrim
I wonder if someone could locate David Lewis on the 1871-61-51 please. Thanks in advance.
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Could this be them, it`s the only one that matches with the names .
RG10; Piece: 5504; Folio: 32; Page: 7;
1871 Sarnbwla ? Mydrim
David Lewis 42 woodcutter ? all born Carmarthenshire
Mary Lewis 47
Anna Lewis 11
Eliza Lewis 9
Phebe Lewis 5
Jonah Lewis 2
Yes, it looks like him :)
1861 RG9; Piece: 4145; Folio: 46; Page: 4;
Sarnbwla
David Lewis 31 Independant Preacher
Mary Lewis 34
Thomas Lewis 7
Anne Lewis 4
Anna Lewis 1
1851 This might be him. Llanfihangel Abercowin
HO107; Piece: 2472; Folio: 568; Page: 24;
James Beynon 56 farmer b St Clears
Carllotte Beynon 56 wife b Mydrim
David Lewis 20 stepson. b Mydrim.
Margaret Lewis 18 stepdaughter
Martha Williams 22 servant
John Phillips 18 "
Stephen Davies 15 "
Stuck on 1841.
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Hello Wilcoxon
Many thanks for helping out. I don't think the 1871C entry is the correct one, I tried FreeBMD for deaths of the children not listed [Eliza & Phebe] on the 81C but no matches, although there is a possible match for Anna, marrying in 1880.
The 1861C entry is a good possible with 'independent preacher' it would have been nice if they had recorded birthplace so we could say a definite match.
I think the 1851C entry is a definite, located a marriage on FreeBMD for Charlotte Lewis & James Beynon in March 1839. If David Lewis's father was also named David then there are a few Deaths in Carmarthenshire for 'David Lewis'
Marriages Dec 1840
DAVIES Charlotte Carmarthen 26 689
Lewis David Carmarthen 26 689
A possible starting point on the 1841C with David Lewis as head of the family ???
Hope that makes sense.
Best Regards
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I used Jonah as a `clue` for 1871, he is the only son with parents of the same name. Also they are living in the same place.
HO107; Piece 1382; Book: 24; District: 18; Folio: 23;
1841 Nantiagael ? Llanfihangel Abercowin
James Beynon 25 farmer Y born in county
Charlotte Beynon 40 Y
Mary Lewis 12 Y
David Lewis 10 Y
Im not surehow the marriage of Charlotte Davies and David Lewis - Marriages Dec 1840 Carmarthen 26 689 - fits in if she married James Beynon in March 1839.
To be sure it would be best to get the marriage certificate of David Lewis and Mary ?, it might give his fathers name. Jonah`s birth certificate should give Mary`s maiden name.
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Yes you are right, marriage cert for David and Mary is best. I was using the best guess scenario for the name of David's father as a guide to the 41C. There are x6 deaths for a David Lewis in Carmarthenshire;x3 Sept 1837, x2 June 1838, x1 Dec 1838 so it is possible for Charlotte Lewis to marry James Beynon Mar 1839.
Many thanks, and kind regards
Roy
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1881 I reckon this looks OK and gives a POB for Pheobe.
RG11; Piece: 5401; Folio: 63; Page: 8
Pant Y Deri, Mydrim.
Thomas Thomas 49 farmer
Mary Thomas 40 sister
Jane Thomas 38 sister
Pheobe Lewis 16 servant b Mydrim
And this might be her sister Eliza / Elizabeth.
1881 Llwynpiod Farm , Llanfihangel Abercowin
RG11; Piece: 5396; Folio: 84; Page: 9;
Theophillus Jones 37 farmer
Mary Jones 28 sister
Elizabeth Lewis 18 servant, housemaid. b Mydrim
Thomas Jones 38 lodger , Curate at Llanfihangel Abercowin.
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IGI Submitted, so you will have to check, looks good though, especially with Charlotte.
There are lots of records for `Theopholus Lewis` on the IGI but I`m sure you know they should only be used as a guide and checked out for youself.
Baptisms.
Mary Lewis 21 MAR 1828 Of, Mydrim, Carmarthen, Wales
David Lewis 13 FEB 1831 Of, Mydrim, Carmarthen, Wales
Parents. Theophlus Lewis, Charlotte Martell
Now you would never come up with Theopholus Lewis as Davids Dad in a million years. ;D
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What can I say, thanks seems so inadequent when you have gone to so much trouble so don't take this the wrong way but :-* :-* :-* Many thanks for your kindness, you have certainly given me something to work on. So much for my theory of David being named after his father ;D
Best regards
Roy
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David lewis was Dafydd Lewis in life and was recorded as David in official records. He was the first preacher at Gibeon Chapel Mydrim. He was my Great Great Grandfather and I have more details if you want them. He is buried at the Chapel along with his family.
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Hi
First of all many thanks for making contact. I would be very interested in the details of David Lewis you would like to share and look forward to your e-mail.
Kind regards
Roy
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yes send me your email address in a personal message and i will send you the details i have