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Title: thomas cadwell
Post by: will1890 on Thursday 30 July 09 12:32 BST (UK)
new info i found is a mr.thomas cadwell  had 1 of his legs amputated after been knocked by a motor car in dublin in 1924 ,anyone who could find out more info on this that would be great ,,,,,,,,,,,,,thanks ,,,,,,,,,,,,, dave the accident hapend at clare street
Title: cadwell
Post by: will1890 on Tuesday 11 August 09 11:54 BST (UK)
hi,lookn for more info about a mr.cadwell who was knocked down on clare st. dublin 1924 in which he lost a leg ,i have tryed looking up archives but as of yet have found very little.any info would be great thanks,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,dave
Title: Re: thomas cadwell
Post by: aghadowey on Tuesday 11 August 09 12:02 BST (UK)
No need to start another thread- I've merged both your posts.
Here's another earlier thread of yours about this accident-
www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,395480.msg2662713.html#msg2662713
To avoid any more needless duplication and confusion please keep all posts on the subject here. Thanks
Title: Re: thomas cadwell
Post by: will1890 on Wednesday 12 August 09 09:32 BST (UK)
ok will do
Title: Re: thomas cadwell
Post by: shanew147 on Wednesday 12 August 09 09:59 BST (UK)
not a match to firstname, street or year, but sounds like there could be a connection :

14th March 1925 (Sat)

'Michael Cadwell, Elmpark Lodge, Drumcondra and George Cadwell, Clontarf, two platelayers employed by the Dublin United Tramways Company, were knocked down and seriously injured by a motor car while at work in Merrion square (North) last Thursday night. They have been admitted to the City of Dublin Hospital '

Clare street is just off the west of Merrion Square North.


Shane
Title: Re: thomas cadwell
Post by: will1890 on Wednesday 12 August 09 10:29 BST (UK)
yea thats him , had first name wrong , its the right adress and they were plate layers ,thank you again, researching michael cadwell because he was a dispatch rider for michael collins durn easter risen so were trying to find more info on him, thanks again dave,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Title: thomas cadwell
Post by: will1890 on Thursday 17 September 09 18:27 BST (UK)
looking for information on thomas cadwell who was in easter riseing and cival war in dublin,
Title: cadwell
Post by: will1890 on Wednesday 04 November 09 13:23 GMT (UK)
hi im trying to find out if my grandfather thomas cadwell fought in the war of independence in dublin ,my grandmother always said he did, as a dispatch rider, just wondering the best way to find out ,,,,thanks,,,,,,,dave
Title: Re: cadwell
Post by: will1890 on Wednesday 04 November 09 13:44 GMT (UK)
hi im trying to find out if my grandfather thomas cadwell fought in the war of independence in dublin ,my grandmother always said he did, as a dispatch rider, just wondering the best way to find out ,,,,thanks,,,,,,,dave
in 1911 cencus he was liven at waterfall avenue drumcondra ,
Title: Re: cadwell
Post by: rua on Wednesday 02 December 09 01:05 GMT (UK)
hi i'm also trying to find out about the cadwell car crash into the liffey in dublin where 3 people died? it was my grandfathers parents and his brother!my grandfather has passed and we never found out the truth also if you could give me any more information on the familey it would be great



jan x
Title: Re: cadwell
Post by: shanew147 on Wednesday 02 December 09 09:31 GMT (UK)
I located some details on this accident a while ago for another poster (maybe will1890?)... will locate the original post and let you know.


Shane
Title: Re: cadwell
Post by: shanew147 on Wednesday 02 December 09 11:03 GMT (UK)
here are the links to the previous posts on the Cadwells :

http://www.rootschat.com/links/07li/

http://www.rootschat.com/links/07lj/





Shane
Title: Re: cadwell
Post by: rua on Wednesday 02 December 09 17:48 GMT (UK)
thank you so much i'll try get on to him don't really know how to use this thank you x :)




 jan
Title: Re: cadwell
Post by: shanew147 on Wednesday 02 December 09 17:53 GMT (UK)
now that you have 3 post I believe that the pm (private message) system will work for you. I located the Cadwell articles article I found for will1890 and will send the details to you that way.



Shane
Title: Re: thomas cadwell
Post by: martin68 on Thursday 04 February 10 16:25 GMT (UK)
not a match to firstname, street or year, but sounds like there could be a connection :

14th March 1925 (Sat)

'Michael Cadwell, Elmpark Lodge, Drumcondra and George Cadwell, Clontarf, two platelayers employed by the Dublin United Tramways Company, were knocked down and seriously injured by a motor car while at work in Merrion square (North) last Thursday night. They have been admitted to the City of Dublin Hospital '

Clare street is just off the west of Merrion Square North.


Shane
Title: Re: thomas cadwell
Post by: martin68 on Thursday 04 February 10 16:34 GMT (UK)
just woundering has anyone any info on george cadwell who was knocked down by a tram in the 1920s i belive he was my grandfather  and he lived in clontarf
Title: Re: thomas cadwell
Post by: victor H on Thursday 06 May 10 18:03 BST (UK)
Hi Martin,
I know you are looking for info on George Cadwell, but I came across a Thomas Cadwell in my family (Herbert) tree. My Great Grandmother, Catherine herbert, a widow, Married Thomas Cadwell (widower) on 30th November 1889. They lived In the City Quay/ Townsend St. Area of Dublin.
Thomas had 6 Children with his first wife Mary Fox and their names were: Simon B 1873, Martha b1875, William b1877, Thomas b1879, Mary b1883, Julia b1885
Perhaps the Thomas b1879 connected to your research?
Regards
Vic
Title: cadwell
Post by: will1890 on Tuesday 12 July 11 14:30 BST (UK)
can anyone help me trace a michael cadwell he was born around 1866. i know from the 1911 census of dublin he was 25 years married in 1911 to thomasina cadwell,,,, im tryn to trace either of there birth records,,,,,,,,its the same cadwells i looked up last year who were killed in a car crash in dublin in 1936 thanks
Title: Re: cadwell
Post by: shanew147 on Tuesday 12 July 11 14:33 BST (UK)
I would start with a search for their marriage cert if you have not already done that, as that would give you their father's names and occupations, which you can then use to verify any possible births.

Do you know Thomasina's maiden name ?


Shane
Title: Re: cadwell
Post by: shanew147 on Tuesday 12 July 11 15:02 BST (UK)
There a good possible birth match in the BMD Index for one of the children - i.e. Christopher.. Does the middle name ring any bells ?

  name: Christopher Joseph Cadwell
  Registration district: Dublin North
  Event type: Birth
  Quarter and year: Oct-Dec 1888
  Volume : 2 / Page : 434

If that's the correct birth, then a cert would give you Thomasina's maiden name, which makes the search for the marriage easier.


Shane
Title: Re: cadwell
Post by: myluck! on Tuesday 12 July 11 15:07 BST (UK)
www.familysearch.org results

Copies of the following certs will give more information especially the marriage certificate as address at the time of marriage and Father's names and occupations should be listed.
Michael CADDELL married DUBLIN NORTH Jan-Mar 1886 Volume 2 Page 528
matching reference for Thomasina LYNAM

Children based on ages on census returns:
Christopher DUBLIN NORTH Oct-Dec 1888 V2 P434
Michael DUBLIN NORTH Jan-Mar 1891 V2 P455
                       (Death at age 18 DUBLIN NORTH Jan-Mar 1909 V2 P432)
Thomas DUBLIN NORTH Apr-Jun 1894 V2 P443
Mary DUBLIN NORTH Jul-Sep 1897 V2 P412
and possibly a twin Catherine the same reference as Mary but the fifth child could be one of several listed
Title: Re: cadwell
Post by: shanew147 on Tuesday 12 July 11 15:10 BST (UK)
possible birth reference for Michael :

  Name: Michael Caddell
  Registration district: Dublin North
  Event type: Birth
  Year: 1864
  Volume: 17 / Page : 629

and an extracted version :

  Name: Michael Caddell
  Date: 02 Oct 1864
  Birth district: Coolock & Drumcondra, Dublin
  Parents : Peter Caddell & Ellen Cullen


Shane
Title: Re: cadwell
Post by: will1890 on Tuesday 12 July 11 15:31 BST (UK)
Hi myluck,yes that sounds about right what u found espicaly on Michael Cadwell dien 1909 as i cant find him anywere on 1911 census it just says the parents ave to children dead since 1901 census,were would I go to get them copys? A church would it be? Also looks right Thomasina Lynam marrying 1886 to a Cadwell,


Moderator Note : Edited - typing in all capitals is considered shouting
Title: Re: cadwell
Post by: will1890 on Tuesday 12 July 11 15:34 BST (UK)
NEVER HEARD OF THOMASINAS 2ND NAME ,I JUST KNOW SHE DIED IN 1936 IN CAR ACCIDENT ON RIVER LIFFEY ALONG WITH HER HUSBAND MICHAEL AND THERE SON WHO WAS DRIVEING CAR AT TIME,,,,,,,
Title: Re: cadwell
Post by: myluck! on Tuesday 12 July 11 15:53 BST (UK)
If you are Dublin based you can request up to five certificates in the GRO in the Irish Life Centre on Abbey Street (if you request more than five they are posted out later)

or by post from the GRO HQ in Roscommon
http://www.groireland.ie/apply_for_a_cert.htm
Title: Re: cadwell
Post by: will1890 on Tuesday 12 July 11 15:58 BST (UK)
yes im dublin based i think il take a trip to abbey street then see what i can find,just bring the info u gave me here ?names dates and numbers?
Title: Re: cadwell
Post by: will1890 on Tuesday 12 July 11 16:00 BST (UK)
would the childrens birth certs give there mothers maiden name on it by any chance? that way if it is thomasina lynam marrys then cadwell i could piece it all together
Title: Re: cadwell
Post by: will1890 on Tuesday 12 July 11 16:17 BST (UK)
shanew was is caddell or cadwell or did they make mistakes with names back them i was told they did alot back then
Title: Re: cadwell
Post by: shanew147 on Tuesday 12 July 11 16:21 BST (UK)
the surname appears as Caddell on that marriage record in the index and on the possible birth for Michael. Spelling of names were not fixed, due to level of literacy etc..

re previous questions - yes birth cert will show mother's maiden surname.  All you need to order certs in the GRO research room is the name, event  type (i.e. birth or marriage), registration district, year and quarter *, volume number and page number. Research certs cost €4

* earlier records only require the year

for notes on the details that certs show see :
  Details included on a Marriage Cert (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,433042.0.html)
  Details included on a Birth Cert (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,433041.0.html)

p.s. The name Thomasina is quite rare, so I'd say the marriage record that myluck! mentioned looks very likely to be your Cadwell family.
 

Shane
Title: Re: cadwell
Post by: will1890 on Tuesday 12 July 11 16:53 BST (UK)
ta for all your help shanew,,,,,,,,, its a bit hard at times all this researching hit a brick wall most times,,,,,,,,,, i know thomasina cadwell died 1936 but her maiden name wouldnt b on death cert if i got it tomorow at the gro on abbey street,?
Title: Re: cadwell
Post by: shanew147 on Tuesday 12 July 11 18:07 BST (UK)
Maiden surname is not included on death certs at that time


S.
Title: Cadwell hi again,,,,,
Post by: will1890 on Thursday 29 September 11 10:03 BST (UK)
hi again ,,,,,,,,,,im trying to find out about a michael /thomas cadwell,,,,,,,one of them was a dispatch rider for michael collins........if any1 has any info that would be a great help ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,dave

Moderator Note : Merged with previous thread on the same subject
Title: THOMAS CADWELL,
Post by: will1890 on Tuesday 18 December 12 14:50 GMT (UK)
HI I RECENTLY  found some old masscards ,i know they were related to my grandmother ,just wondering can i dig up some  more info on them , thomas cadwell died june 11 1962 lived on tolka road . his wife was margaret cadwell,,, anyway i could get a marrage cert for them? also and info on a mary cadwell died october  4th 1964 she was 48 , she lived  on sean mc dermot st, any info on the above 3 would be great ,,,,,,,, cheers
Title: Re: THOMAS CADWELL,
Post by: myluck! on Tuesday 18 December 12 16:40 GMT (UK)
The information below is struck out as it cannot be correct based on new information from topic author
there is a 1938 marriage in Dublin South of
Thomas CADWELL to possibly Margaret Jane LAING
Ref Jan-Mar Vol 2 Page 403

Marriage Thomas Cadwell (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FY2Z-525)
Does this fit with ages etc?

There is a birth for a Margaret Jane Laing (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FBL1-CWL) in Sligo in 1907 which would make her 31 marrying in 1938 but she may have been registered as just Margaret or outside Ireland
Margaret on 1911 Census (http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Sligo/Dromore/Cloonascoffagh/768743/)

If Thomas was from Dublin there are two options for him of a similar age to Margaret on the 1911 census (http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/results.jsp?census_year=1911&surname=cadwell&firstname=thomas&county=Dublin&townland=&ded=&age=&sex=&search=Search)




Was Mary Cadwell who died in1964 single or married?
If single, her DoB would be 1916 approx. and there are just a few good matches (https://www.familysearch.org/search/records/index#count=20&query=%2Bgivenname%3Amary~%20%2Bsurname%3Acadwell~%20%2Bbirth_place%3A%22dublin%20north%22~%20%2Bbirth_year%3A1915-1917~) in Dublin
Title: Re: THOMAS CADWELL,
Post by: will1890 on Tuesday 18 December 12 17:25 GMT (UK)
1911 census thomas is 17 liven at waterfall avenue dublin
Title: Re: THOMAS CADWELL,
Post by: will1890 on Tuesday 18 December 12 17:26 GMT (UK)
thomas had a daughter born 1916 her name was thomasina cadwell
Title: Re: THOMAS CADWELL,
Post by: myluck! on Tuesday 18 December 12 18:44 GMT (UK)
Possible Marraige for Thomas Cadwell in 1916 (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FYXJ-PJH) however no matching Margaret; spouse may have been Mary Margaret or known as Margaret - a copy of the cert would confirm

Thomasina's (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FBYR-L44) birth cert should give both parents

Also it is possible that Thomas married twice and the Margaret who died in the 1960s is a second wife

Sharing all the information you have in requests can alleviate unnecessary searching and help focus on the correct people and dates
Title: Re: THOMAS CADWELL,
Post by: will1890 on Tuesday 18 December 12 19:09 GMT (UK)
Ok thanks
Title: cadwell
Post by: will1890 on Thursday 18 April 13 17:27 BST (UK)
hi im looking for info on the cadwell family from clontarf  ,,, my grandmother was born there in 1916 THOMASINA CADWELL,, I KNOW  her fathers mother and father were killed ina car crash in 1936 -the car went into the liffey as far as i know....... i think in 1911 census there liven on waterfall ave in drumcondra,, as far as i no a few of the cadwells were in the easter riseing but cant be 100% sure of that,,,,,

Moderator note : Merged with one of your existing Cadwell topics to save people duplicate searches etc.
Title: Re: thomas cadwell
Post by: Rowan1 on Monday 13 June 16 13:36 BST (UK)
Greetings to all Cadwell's and to all the researchers for their help.

I have just joined Rootschat, having discovered the chat about the Cadwell family from Clontarf. They are 'old' post's and  I am hoping somebody now has more info about the Cadwells, particularly Peter Cadwell/Caddle.

My Grandmother was Josephine Cadwell b.15/11/1906, 9 Strandville Ave, Clontarf to Thomas Cadwell and Mary Ann Kealy. They are at that address on the 1901 Census and at 23, Brian Boru Ave on the 1911 Census, along with their 8 Children - one is a Thomas age 2, and Mary Ann's Mother.
Thomas Cadwell married Mary Ann  13/8/1899 in Clontarf. His Parent's are Peter Cadwell and Ellen Cullen and they lived in Coolock. Edward Cadwell was a witness.

Thomas Cadwell had several siblings, his older brother being Michael who tragically drowned in the Liffey along with his wife Thomasina and their son Christopher. I have read the reports in the newspaper's, rest their souls.

This is where I find various name spellings

Peter Caddle and Ellen Cullen's Children are-
Mary Caddell b. 20/5/1863 at Coolock.
Michael Caddel b. 2/10/1864 at Coolock, mentioned above.
Patrick Caddle b. 30/9/1866 at Edenmore.
Simon Caddle b. 6/11/1868, lives at Yellow Ln. Drumcondra, Mother's name is Elizabeth Cullen.
* Male Caddle b.3/6/1872 at no. 2 North City.
THOMAS CADWELL b. 22/12/1873, lives at Goose Green. My G-Grandfather.
* Male Cadwell b.18/10/1875.
*Male Cadwell b. 26/11/1876. ( Possible George,age 34 on 1911 census)

*I am not certain which brother is which and it's likely their are other's too (as ages on the Census do not match above births). I know there is Edward, (witness at Thomas's wedding) on the 1911 census at 44, Brian Boru Ave, says he's born in Santry, Francis, his brother lives there to. On the 1901 Census Francis lives with THOMAS at Strandville Ave. I have used the census to work out that there is another brother George. On the 1911 Census George lives at 9, Brian Boru St with his Wife's family. He still lived there when he died in 1940 (Death notice Evening Herald 11/1/1940) George is married to Margaret Fottrell, 'Maggie' was a witness at Edward Cadwell's and Jane Fottrell's, (her sister) wedding. George appears in the newspapers.
Does anybody have any details to confirm who is who?

There is a marriage of Peter Caddle and  Eleanor Cullen who married in Baldoyle, 5/5/1862. Peter lived at Balgriffin and his Father is Patrick Caddle, Mother Julia. Eleanor's father is Michael, Mother Elizabeth.
Cadwell/Caddle is not a common name so I think this is them, marrying in a different Parish then settling in Coolock/Drumcondra/Clontarf.
I have not yet found a Baptism record for Peter although there are several Caddell's in Baldoyle born to a Simon Caddle. Can anyone shed any light on Peter? I would appreciate some help as I am at 'the wall', again...

My uncle tells a tale, which none of us have taken seriously until I have just read these post's, about Michael Collins being given refuge overnight in their house. I do not know any more details than that at the moment although i intend to find out....
Good luck to all,
 :)
 





Title: Re: thomas cadwell
Post by: will1890 on Monday 13 June 16 18:12 BST (UK)
My grandmother was thomasina cadwell born in clontarf in 1916.. i heard a story that they used to gve refuge to the rebels durn and after 1916 ..
Title: Re: thomas cadwell
Post by: Rowan1 on Monday 13 June 16 20:00 BST (UK)
Hi Will1890,
thanks for the response.
Do you know who Thomasina's parent's were? Are you the direct ancestor of Michael and Thomasina who died in 1936?
I have now spoken with my Uncle who said that Michael Collins stayed At Brian Boru St/ Ave although he cannot remember when so he is asking his brothers. It may have been in the house of Kathleen Cadwell and Peter Dunny.( Not sure of surname) They are all over 80 now so their memories are not as sharp. Apparently my Grandmother was sent to a local shop with a message asking for '1/2 lb margarine' which is thought to be code. Who knows??? I will keep you posted if I hear any more.
Best wishes,
 :)
Title: Re: thomas cadwell
Post by: will1890 on Monday 13 June 16 20:30 BST (UK)
Thomas cadwell was her father . Her grandmother died in that car crash in the liffey in 36 .i had the photos of the car after it had crashed into the river.i heard storys that the cadwells had to hide at clontarf baths so the british wouldnt find them.. there was a cadwell in colins gang .not sure his first name. He lived at fiarview..alot of the cadwells worked for the tram company. Thomas cadwel lost both his legs ..he was run down by a tram
Title: Re: thomas cadwell
Post by: hasta on Monday 13 June 16 20:32 BST (UK)
Hi there
The brother you have listed as 'Male Caddle b.3/6/1872 at no. 2 North City' is PETER Caddle, his baptism is on IrishGenealogy

http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/96b5ea0197640

also not sure about Simon Caddle b. 6/11/1868. You have him as living in Drumcondra but this looks like a corresponding death record in 1869.

Simon Caddle
Age at death    1
Birth year    1868
Registered year    1869

Dublin North
Volume    17
Page    439

Can you give details of the children born to Simon in Baldoyle ?

Title: Re: thomas cadwell
Post by: dathai on Monday 13 June 16 21:13 BST (UK)
5 hits for Cadwell here just enter Cadwell into search archives
http://www.nationalarchives.ie/search-the-archives/

one or two seem to be the above families
Title: Re: thomas cadwell
Post by: Sinann on Monday 13 June 16 21:21 BST (UK)
There is a Paddy Chadwell listed as Members of the Intelligence Staff on page 36
On page 33 going by the numbers typed on the page.
http://www.bureauofmilitaryhistory.ie/reels/bmh/BMH.WS0423.pdf#page=36

On second look he may be this man Caldwell
http://www.bureauofmilitaryhistory.ie/reels/bmh/BMH.WS0638.pdf#page=34
Title: Re: thomas cadwell
Post by: Sinann on Monday 13 June 16 22:01 BST (UK)
On this site both Paddy Cadwell and Paddy Caldwell are listed.
http://www.revolvy.com/main/index.php?s=The%20Squad%20(Irish%20Republican%20Army%20unit)&item_type=topic
Title: Re: thomas cadwell
Post by: hasta on Tuesday 14 June 16 01:16 BST (UK)
From Irish Independent December 16, 1914.

Clontarf Volunteers.
The Clontarf Company of the National Volunteers has elected the following Officers —President, P. A. Meehan, T.C.: Treasurer, P. L Parrell Secretary, A.K. Nolan, Captain, J. Hourihan. Lieutenants Ignatius Evan and J. Meehan and Hon. instructor, George Cadwell.
Title: Re: thomas cadwell
Post by: will1890 on Tuesday 14 June 16 01:28 BST (UK)
Think i seen it somewere that george cadwell served in the boer war also..
Title: Re: thomas cadwell
Post by: Rowan1 on Wednesday 15 June 16 09:46 BST (UK)
Hello and thankyou to you all for your help, your response's are fascinating  :)

Will1890, I think that makes my G-Grandfather, Thomas Cadwell, your Thomas Cadwell's uncle. Is this correct???

It's Patrick Caldwell who lives at Fairview, does any one know who his parent's were? My Patrick would be in his fifties at that time.....

Hasta -I had not seen this Baptism and thanks for confirming one of the brothers.....It would be very unusual to have not name a son after his Dad!
Simon was born in Drumcondra, that's all I know about him, his mother is listed as Elizabeth though. It is likely to be his death record that you reference.....I have seen a Death Notice - Evening Herald, 28/2/1936 of a Simon Cadwell, 22 Jane Place, buried in Kinsealy. I am yet to find his connection.....
I collected these details from the IFHF site by searching for Cadwells in Dublin Nrth.
 
There is a marriage of Simon Caddell at Baldoyle in 1842.
I have these, as references only, to Children born to Simon Caddle in Baldoyle,
Julia 1844, Patrick 1845, Mary 1848,Thomas 1851, Juliana 1854,Martha 1855, Margaret 1857.
There is also a Martha 1860 and Johanna 1863 but their father's name was not listed.
I hope this is of help to you. I do not have any more info about any of these Cadwells....
Daitha - thanks for directing me to Thomasina's paper's, I had not seen them before.
Sinnan- This record lists Patrick Cadwell, is it accepted that Patrick Caldwell is the same man???

Good luck to you all

I


Title: Re: thomas cadwell
Post by: will1890 on Wednesday 15 June 16 10:21 BST (UK)
Hi. My grandmother was thomasina cadwell. Her father was thomas cadwell.. my grandmother was born in clontarf in 1916. She moved to east wall with her family and married my grandfather william in 1936. Thomas cadwell was liven at waterfall avenue on either 1901 or 1911 census. ..also the cadwells in the car crash were liven at waterfall Avenue to.my grandmother said years ago members of her family had to hide from the british at clontarf baths and her uncle was a dispatch rider for collins
Title: Re: thomas cadwell
Post by: will1890 on Wednesday 15 June 16 10:31 BST (UK)
Ive seen a photo of all the cadwells taking in clontarf about 1930.
Title: Re: thomas cadwell
Post by: Rowan1 on Wednesday 15 June 16 10:52 BST (UK)
We are both 3rd generation down from our G-Grandparent's Michael (your's) and Thomas, who were brothers...Their Parent's were Peter Caddle and Ellen Cullen, check out my first post. Can you confirm this? If so you are the first member of my Cadwell branch that I have connected with so thank you for your contact  ;D. Is there any way you can share the photo you mention?
Title: Re: thomas cadwell
Post by: will1890 on Wednesday 15 June 16 10:59 BST (UK)
Hi. Yea im on to my cousin she has the picture.. ive also a photo of thomas cadwell from.his mass card. Yea im directly related to the cadwell as my mums mum was thomasina cadwell and her father thomas. ..
Title: Re: thomas cadwell
Post by: will1890 on Wednesday 15 June 16 11:20 BST (UK)
Cadwells
Title: Re: thomas cadwell
Post by: Sinann on Wednesday 15 June 16 18:46 BST (UK)

Sinnan- This record lists Patrick Cadwell, is it accepted that Patrick Caldwell is the same man???


Think it's a red herring, reading through the statements and looking at the dates I think Cadwell is a typo and should read Caldwell so not one of yours.
Title: Re: thomas cadwell
Post by: Rowan1 on Wednesday 15 June 16 21:30 BST (UK)
Thanks Will1890, the photo is fabulous! Please thank your (our) cousin too. Its brilliant to see so many from this branch of my family, I really appreciate it and you have made my day  ;D
Title: Re: thomas cadwell
Post by: will1890 on Wednesday 15 June 16 21:37 BST (UK)
No worries.
Title: Re: thomas cadwell
Post by: Rowan1 on Monday 04 July 16 19:40 BST (UK)
Hi Will1890 and other Researchers,

I now have a copy of George Cadwell's Army Service Record and indeed he did serve in the Boer War (and the East Indies).
He joined the Royal Dublin Fusiliers in 1893 (service num.4847). His next of kin are named as his BROTHER's - Peter, Thomas, Edward and Francis.
It also states that Peter is in the Royal Dub. Fus. - Peter joined in 1891 and also served in the Boer war. (service num.4041),his name is Peter Cadeell on his army record. His next of kin are listed as FATHER - Peter Cadeel at Santry, and BROTHERS - Patrick, Michael, SIMON, Thomas, George, Edward. I think it is 'safe' to conclude that Ellen, wife of Snr. Peter, has passed away as she is not mentioned (Peter Snr. is not mentioned on George's record so passed between 91-93?)The NLI Parish records for BALDOYLE lists Ellen Cullen as Simon's Mother, it is not Elizabeth as mentioned in a previous post. Simon is on the 1911 census at Bella St. Mountjoy. Peter at Poplar Row, Mountjoy (1911 census).
HASTA -  I am wondering who are the Parents of the Simon Cadwell that you mention, who passed away aged 1. He could be the Son of any of these Brother's????
I searched the Parish record's on the NLI site for BALDOYLE,(as this is where my Peter Caddle married Ellen Cullen in 1862. His parent's names are Patrick and Julia and they lived at Balgriffin)
I have discovered some more details about the Simon Caddle family that you/I referred to in this Parish.

MARRIAGE - 21.10.1842, Simon Caddell to Martha Hall. Wit: Peter Giblin and Eliza Shelton.

BAPTISM'S -
16.04.1844 - Julia Caddell. Parent's - Simon Caddell and Martha Hall, Spons: William Duffy and Bridget Campell.

22.08.1845 - Patrick. Parent's - Simeon and Martha Caddell. Wit: William Duffy and Mary Caddell.

27.07.1847(?) Thomas Cadell. Parent's Simon Cadell and Martha Hall. Spons: Joseph and Mary Campbell.

28.05.1848 - Mary. Parent's - Simon Ca???lls and Martha Hall. Spons: Michael(?) Lynch and Bridget
Cunningham.

27.08.1854 - Joannes Caddle at BALGRIFFIN. Parent's - Simon Caddle and Martha Hall. Spons: Thomas Lynch and Maria Adams.

17.06.1857 - Marguerite Caddle, Kinsealy. Parent's - Simeon Caddle and Martha Hall.
Spons: Patricius Hearny(?) and Maria Caddle.

29.05.1860 - Martha Cadwell, Kinsealy. Parent's - Simon Cadwell and Martha Hall. Spons: William Burke and Elizabeth Quinn.

07.09.1863 - Joannes Cadwell, Kinsealy. Parent's - Simon Cadwell and Martha Hall. Spons: George Hoye and Joannes Cadwell.

I have not discovered any other record for my Patrick, Father of Peter Cadwell, although on the 1901 Census there is a Patrick Cadwell, age 60, at 4, Balgriffin, Coolock. His wife is Catherine (not Julia), he may have married more than once. Does anybody know?

I hope this help's folk's
Good luck





 








Title: Re: thomas cadwell
Post by: Rowan1 on Monday 04 July 16 19:48 BST (UK)
The Patrick on the Census at Balgriffin, Coolock is likely to be Simon and Martha's son born 1845.
Title: Re: thomas cadwell
Post by: hasta on Monday 11 July 16 01:53 BST (UK)

HASTA -  I am wondering who are the Parents of the Simon Cadwell that you mention, who passed away aged 1. He could be the Son of any of these Brother's????
No he was the one baptised 6th November 1868 as the son of Ellen Cullen and Simon Caddle died 1969 as per the death reference I gave earlier, so he is not a child of one of the brothers.

I was just pointing that out as you had
"Simon Caddle b. 6/11/1868, lives at Yellow Ln. Drumcondra,"
I saw a record for a Simon Caddle at Yellow Lane but he was born much earlier.
I did have a look for records of Peters parents Patrick and Julia but didn't turn up much, I'm afraid.

If I was you I'd go back to your original list of the brothers, get their birth certs (or baptism - what ever gives you specific addresses which are so important) and then track each one individually in a linear pattern.


Title: Re: thomas cadwell
Post by: Rowan1 on Tuesday 12 July 16 11:49 BST (UK)
Hi Hasta,
I do enjoy puzzles...thanks for searching for Patrick and Julia, to date I still have not found any  record of them although the heat 'has turned up'.
Do you know who notified the death of Simon?
I have several of the Baptism record's of the brothers including Simon Caddil b. 1868, Yellow Lane, Drumcondra and he was Baptised in the Parish of Clontarf. (record accessed via Swords Historical Society - Irish Family History Foundation)
He is still at Yellow Lane, Drumcondra in 1884 as the defendant, charged with 'willfully cutting back a tree and tresspass'. (Find my past)
Do you know which record you refer to re: an earlier record for Simon at Yellow Lane?
A previous post mentions all the info I have so far on addresses for my Cadwell's and onward (backwards???) I search.
Good luck

Title: Re: thomas cadwell
Post by: Rowan1 on Tuesday 12 July 16 11:58 BST (UK)
Hi,
does anybody know if the Parish Record's for CLONTARF are freely available on-line? The NLI does not have them..I know the IFHF has some, can be costly though. I have not maintained my subscription to them and as a result cannot see previously bought record's. I have do have copies of some of them.
all help appreciated,....
Title: Re: thomas cadwell
Post by: Sinann on Tuesday 12 July 16 12:20 BST (UK)
According to this https://www.johngrenham.com/records/rc_church.php?churchid=0504&parish=Artane,%20Clontarf,%20Coolock,%20Santry,%20Dublin%20city
IFHF is the only place.
Did you know they now do a 24 hour €10 sub.
Title: Re: thomas cadwell
Post by: Rowan1 on Wednesday 13 July 16 10:40 BST (UK)
Thanks Sinnan,
I will be using the 24 hr membership! It seems strange that the IFHF has the record's and the library does not......
Good luck
Title: Re: thomas cadwell
Post by: Doc_Choc on Tuesday 15 November 16 22:06 GMT (UK)
Hi Rowan1,

I read with great interest your research about Thomas Cadwell.

My Great Grandfather was also in the Royal Dublin Fusiliers - his service number was 4242, not so far from that of Thomas. I'm assuming he joined in Ireland.

You mention in your post that you managed to obtain his service record with details of next of kin etc. How did you find the record? I haven't been able to locate the service record for my Great Grandfather yet so the trail has gone cold. All I have is confirmation he was killed in action in South Africa. If I had his parents name/next of kin, I might be able to find more about him, or where he came from in Ireland...

Any advice you could give would be gratefully appreciated!
Title: Re: thomas cadwell
Post by: myluck! on Wednesday 16 November 16 10:22 GMT (UK)
Doc_Choc

Welcome to rootschat

I can only presume you do not have your great grand parents marriage certificate as this should show at least his father's name. If you would like people on board here to help you could start a new topic in the beginners forum or a relevant county to start the search.

best of luck researching
Title: Re: thomasina cadwell
Post by: CharBolton1 on Monday 13 November 17 14:41 GMT (UK)
Hiya Everyone

My names Charlene in was born in Salford, Lancashire to Anthony Duffy.

Anthonys parents were Thomasina Cadwell and William Jospeh Duffy.  William served in the Dublin fusiliers during the easter rising in 1916.

Thomasina's parents were Thomas Cadwell and Mary McAleer.  As far as im aware they had children Carmel, Mary along with Thomasina.  were there anymore? My dad thinks Thomas wa involved in an accident whilst driving his taxi and ended up in a wheelchair.  I'm yet to find any articles on this.

Thomas Cadwells parents were Thomasina Lynam and Michael Cadwell.  Both drowned in the liffey in 1936 alongside son Christopher.  I have newspaper articles for this from the Irish Times.  Michael and his brother George were also in an accident when they were working laying tram lines.  Michael had one leg amputated.

If anyone has any more info or would like to reach out as were related I would love to hear from you.  The Cadwell branches are huge as most seem like they had plenty of children.

Thanks

Charlene
Title: Re: thomas cadwell
Post by: Sinann on Monday 13 November 17 15:59 GMT (UK)
Thomas, Thomasina and Christopher's death certs, son/ brother Thomas was the informant
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1936/04800/4291318.pdf
Title: Re: thomas cadwell
Post by: cadwellASH on Wednesday 10 October 18 16:44 BST (UK)
Cadwells
hi my name is Aisling and my Grandfather was Declan Cadwell of Seaview Avenue his mother was Margaret Farnham. i would love to get more information about this fab pic you have put up
Title: Re: thomas cadwell
Post by: will1890 on Thursday 11 October 18 01:11 BST (UK)
the picture i was sent in an email years back.. my grandmother was thomas Caldwell.  her father was michael cadwell
Title: Re: thomas cadwell
Post by: cadwellASH on Thursday 11 October 18 07:38 BST (UK)
the picture i was sent in an email years back.. my grandmother was thomas Caldwell.  her father was michael cadwell

Oh right no problem. I just thought the photo with all the details and names you knew who they were. Would you be able to PM me with the details of who sent the email to you if that’s ok.
Title: Re: thomas cadwell
Post by: Kevincadwell on Sunday 12 April 20 14:06 BST (UK)
Hi I am looking for the names of my Great Grandparents names.
My Granddad name is Thomas Peter Cadwell born 1910 in Dublin and died 1963 in Gloucester was in the Gloucesters 1st regime

Thanks
Title: Re: thomas cadwell
Post by: Sinann on Sunday 12 April 20 15:16 BST (UK)
Welcome to RootsChat
You can look up births marriages and deaths on Irish Genealogy and view images of the certs for free.
This is possibly your Thomas number 13
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1910/01583/1637243.pdf
but you need his father's name from a marriage cert to be sure.

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https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-search.jsp
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Title: Re: thomas cadwell
Post by: Kevincadwell on Sunday 12 April 20 15:38 BST (UK)
Thank you I know the date on his army certification was born 09/02/910 but I have no other information.
Can yo make out the name of his mum is that Delei ?
I know no other information

Thanks
Title: Re: thomas cadwell
Post by: Sinann on Sunday 12 April 20 15:53 BST (UK)
Anne Fitzsimons
Title: Re: thomas cadwell
Post by: Sinann on Sunday 12 April 20 15:54 BST (UK)
1911 Census
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Mountjoy/Poplar_Row/17303/
Title: Re: thomas cadwell
Post by: Sinann on Sunday 12 April 20 15:56 BST (UK)
The date of birth on the army papers and the date on the cert match so that's good, would be better to have at least his father's name to confirm.
Title: Re: thomas cadwell
Post by: Sinann on Sunday 12 April 20 16:06 BST (UK)
Peter Cadwell and Anne Fitzsimons married in 1908, the marriage is on that site. I'll let you find it yourself.