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Title: Betsy Taylor & Jacob Criffield
Post by: baglet2 on Saturday 19 September 09 14:39 BST (UK)
I believe that my search is correct so far, my ancestor, Mary Ellen Taylor, was born in Kendal 1867, her mother Nancy Taylor, born Preston Patrick 1832, presumably she was unmarried, as the birth certificate shews no father for Mary. Nancy's mother I believe was Betsy Taylor, born 1817 Westmorland, again I think unmarried.

I found Nancy as a three year old in the 1841 census, living with a family called Criffield in Preston Partrick. The head Jacob Criffield married to Betsy/Betty Criffield, with a son John born 1841.

I think this implies that Betsy married after Nancy's birth, but would appreciate local research if anyone would be so kind as to oblige.

Thank you

Jackie
Title: Re: Betsy Taylor & Jacob Criffield
Post by: CatOne on Saturday 19 September 09 14:56 BST (UK)
Marriage on freebmd?

Jacob Crossfield and Betty Taylor December 1840 Kendal Vol 25 Page 539

Regards
Cat
Title: Re: Betsy Taylor & Jacob Criffield
Post by: CaroleW on Saturday 19 September 09 14:56 BST (UK)
Hi and welcome to Rootschat

Can you clarify Nancy's birthyear?

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her mother Nancy Taylor, born Preston Patrick 1832

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I found Nancy as a three year old in the 1841 census
Title: Re: Betsy Taylor & Jacob Criffield
Post by: CaroleW on Saturday 19 September 09 14:58 BST (UK)
Sorted - here is the IGI entry

NANCY TAYLOR  Christening:  08 OCT 1837   Preston Patrick, Westmorland
Mother:  BETSY TAYLOR 


BETTY TAYLOR   Spouse:  JACOB CROSSFIELD     Marriage:  26 OCT 1840   Preston Patrick
 
Title: Re: Betsy Taylor & Jacob Criffield
Post by: baglet2 on Saturday 19 September 09 15:03 BST (UK)
I'm impressed. How kind of you all.

So many errors in the census transcriptions.

Thank you so much for this.

Now I just have to trace Betsy's parents and Jacob's.

Any help much appreciated.

Jackie
Title: Re: Betsy Taylor & Jacob Criffield
Post by: CaroleW on Saturday 19 September 09 15:10 BST (UK)
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Now I just have to trace Betsy's parents and Jacob's.

You will find a baptismal entry on the IGI at www.familysearch.org for Jacob - parents John & Mary - but because of the surname Taylor - you will need to buy a copy of the 1840 marriage cert to establish Betty/Betsy's fathers name

Possible death

Deaths September qtr 1849
 
Betty Crossfield  Kendal  25 453
Title: Re: Betsy Taylor & Jacob Criffield
Post by: CatOne on Saturday 19 September 09 15:12 BST (UK)
By 1851, Betty/Betsy seems to have died and Jacob is enumerated as James on the census -

James Crossfield widower 34 Wheelwright All born Preston Patrick
John 11
Ellen 3?
Margaret 6 Twin
Betty 6 Twin
+ housekeeper Mary Oracle (transcribed as "Ordele") 34 b. Scotland

Keastwick, Kirkby Lonsdale, Westmorland
HO107/2441 Folio 484 Page 2


Death?
Betty Crossfield Sept 1849 Kendal Vol 25 Page 453
Title: Re: Betsy Taylor & Jacob Criffield
Post by: baglet2 on Saturday 19 September 09 15:16 BST (UK)
Carolew

Thanks again.

I have quite a few ancestors in Westmorland. So maybe I will call on you for help again.

Please do think me ignorant if I do not reply for a few weeks, I am being admitted to hospital tomorrow for major sugery.

Regards

Jackie
Title: Re: Betsy Taylor & Jacob Criffield
Post by: baglet2 on Saturday 19 September 09 15:19 BST (UK)
CatOne

Thanks to you too, I'm overwhelmed.

Jackie
Title: Re: Betsy Taylor & Jacob Criffield
Post by: CaroleW on Saturday 19 September 09 15:27 BST (UK)
Good luck with the op and I wish you a speedy recovery
Title: Re: Betsy Taylor & Jacob Criffield
Post by: baglet2 on Saturday 19 September 09 15:36 BST (UK)
Thank you CaroleW

Just wondered if I'm on the right track. I think Betsy's parents could be Michael Taylor and Elizabeth Whitehead. Married 1802 Orton ? just maybe ?

Jackie
Title: Re: Betsy Taylor & Jacob Criffield
Post by: baglet2 on Saturday 19 September 09 15:38 BST (UK)
CaroleW


Meant to say, Barney was beautiful. Have three furry companions myself.

Jackie
Title: Re: Betsy Taylor & Jacob Criffield
Post by: CaroleW on Saturday 19 September 09 15:45 BST (UK)
I also saw that IGI entry but because Betty died before the 1851 census - her full birthplace is not known.  We only know she was born in Westmorland

If the marriage cert shows her father as Michael - Bingo!!
Title: Re: Betsy Taylor & Jacob Criffield
Post by: baglet2 on Saturday 19 September 09 15:59 BST (UK)
CaroleW

Have found Christening record for Betty Taylor, 5th May 1816, Krkby Lonsdale, (I take it births are always 'about') father Michael Taylor, mother Betty !

Jackie
Title: Re: Betsy Taylor & Jacob Criffield
Post by: CaroleW on Saturday 19 September 09 16:49 BST (UK)
Hi

That's the record I was referring to above sorry - not the 1802 marriage you found. 

It was very inconsiderate of her to die before the 1851 census so we don't know whether she was b Kirby Lonsdale or Preston Patrick!!

Are you going to get a copy of the 1840 marriage cert to find her fathers name?
Title: Re: Betsy Taylor & Jacob Criffield
Post by: baglet2 on Saturday 19 September 09 16:54 BST (UK)
Hi

Yes, eventually. I have found though that these don't mean much. Mary Ellen Taylor gave her father as James Taylor on her marriage cert. Where did she get that from ?

Jackie
Title: Re: Betsy Taylor & Jacob Criffield
Post by: CaroleW on Saturday 19 September 09 17:18 BST (UK)
Marriages December qtr 1868  
 
Agnes Brockbank   Kendal  10b 1078    
Jacob Crossfield  

Daughter Betty b 1846 died

Betty Crossfield December qtr 1853  Kendal  Volume: 10b Page: 356

Many illegitimate children made up a fathers name when they married so as to appear "respectable"