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Does anyone have any Varey ancestors, travellers/horse dealers/pot hawkers around Lancashire/Cumbria/Westmorland/Yorkshire areas around the late 19th century?
In particular I'm looking for information on Sarah Jane Cunningham, married to Joseph Varey, both born about 1870 in Lancashire. In the 1901 census they are living in Kendal; in 1911 they are in Blackpool, with a Lizzie Cunningham who is possibly Sarah's mum (in 1901 she is also in Kendal, living nearby with husband Andrew).
Grateful for any info.
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Hi,Do you have any idea who Josephs parents were,or the names of his and Elizabeths children,
thanks
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Hi Magpie28. It is pretty confusing as there are a number of Joseph Vareys all around the same age and probably cousins, but I am pretty sure this Joseph's parents were James Varey (b.1847, Foulridge) and Martha Varey (nee Varey) (b.1850, Lancashire). Joseph and Sarah's children were Hannah, Jemima, James, Mary, Thomas, Agnes, Nancie, Enoch, Frances (not all survived to adulthood).
Joseph & Sarah's daughter Mary also married a Varey (Isaac, b.1896 in Whitehaven - also a bit confusing as he had a cousin Isaac Varey of around the same age. The 1896 Isaac's parents were John Varey 1870 Colne & Margaret Miller 1871 Brampton).
You and I seem to have quite a few traveller names in common in our family trees, but the site won't let me pm you yet as I haven't made enough posts!
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Thanks for your reply,I tried to pm you before I sent the post,now I know why I could not send it.My gggrandmother was called Elizabeth Varey,her parents were Joseph Varey and Christiana Forrest.I dont know for sure but James born [1848] could be her brother,in the 1881 census James was in Prescot Lancs,and two doors away was Jacob Varey who I know is my gggrandmothers brother,when I can pm you I will give you more info.
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Hi Magpie28, Yes, I have Joseph's father James' parents as Joseph Varey (1820) and Christiana Forest (1823), looks like we have the same family. I will post some more to get up my quota so we can pm.
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I've noticed the Vary/Varey name cropping up in the Davey/Davy family in East Yorkshire. The Davey's were Earthenware sellers and also Coal merchants. Anne Davey married into the Swales family from Kirkbymoorside.
Also the name Vary crops up in the Barr family, one of whom is related through marriage to the Davey family from North Cave.
Annoyingly, i cannot link up the Davey families......although i think they may be related.
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Hi,I also have a Joseph Varey in my family, married to a Florence Wilson,I think Joseph was born circa 1900.havent researched the Varey link yet as trying to concentrate on Wilson side.
Also have Cunningham,Forrest,Swales families to name a few in my traveller side of families,All around Yorkshire
As I mentioned I am trying to research my Wilson side which I am finding difficult, I have a Wilson marrying a Wilson.
Jane Ann Wilson marrying Abraham Wilson,Abraham,s father was James Wilson and mother was Annie Lee,Abraham was born around 1898 in Stockton on Tees.
Jane Ann,s parents were Thomas Wilson and Margaret Jamieson.
All families were Hawkers,Horse dealers or general dealers, and most travelled all over Yorkshire and borders area.
Flora
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Ps forgot to say that Abraham Wilson on marriage certificate stayed in Blackburn, not sure yet if Blackburn Lancashire or the one in Scotland, which I think is in Lanarkshire.
Flora
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re varey, flora brooks. the wilsons you mention ,are my gg parents. both buried in carlisle.i have photos of annie at a camp fire with her sons.living wagon behind.olso related to vareys,have them at my gg fathers 1881census bury back geogeana st.my famliy are mitchells earthenwares hawkers etc.i traced them back to todmorden 1790.all travellers.but i could not find my wilson side,if you have any info it would be cushty.rob g
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manishen,i have vareys,but down as vasey. in the 1881 bury lancs census, staying with my gg dad at georgeana street,you can find it on famliy search site,
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Hi Rob G
Sorry for not replying sooner,Havent had internet for a couple of months.
Jane Ann Wilson was my Gr.Aunt, as far as I know she married her cousin Abraham.
Jane Ann,s parents were Thomas Wilson and Margaret Jamieson
Abraham,s parents were James Wilson and Annie Lee
Margaret Jamieson died in the showground love st. Paisley,I think she must have been travelling with a fair.
Jane Ann,s brother James Wilson(my gr.granda) married a Jane Watson,she was of the travelling people too,
On my grandmothers death certificate, it says that James Wilson her father was a horse dealer.
Flora
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hi ,florabrooks. have a look on family search.org. type in william mitchell in name box and england 1881 in the census in bury lancs you can find staying with william mitchell, a joe vasey age 22. bella age 21. and son james. the names are down as vasey.but i know it should be veray,as my g g mother told me when i was little we were related to the vareys and that they used to stay with her husband peter in bury lancs .by the way i was 12 years old when my g.g.mother died,she was 88 years old.she married the boy called peter in the household.she said the vareys were full cousin to peter.and she knew them. by the way my ,g.uncle abraham wilson. was a car dealer in kilmarnock as was his son and grandson but he hawked also and would deal in anything.i cannot find anything on his father jim wilson married to annie lee.except that he is in carlisle cemetary but did know abraham and his brothers jack and jim wilson.and sons tom and jim wilson.there are others but not sure about them.but i think its got to be the same famliy,it would be interesting if you can find anything more, i can tell you my james wilson was wed three times i belive,once in his seventys. rob
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Hi RobG
Thanks for replying,You mentioned that Abraham was a car dealer among other things,I remember my gran Mary saying her brother,I think Jimmy was his name , was also a car dealer either in Greenock or Paisley
I remember when I was a wee girl seeing him and his wife they had 2 wee yorkie dogs
My aunt say,s that one of my grans brothers married ? bunce do you know any connection to a Bunce family
I dont know if you are a member of Genes Reunited I have my family tree on there.
I am still looking for any leads to the modern Wilson families.
Flora
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Hi Flora,
I don't know if my Wilson is modern enough for you, but she is the latest one I have.
Sarah Wilson b: 1837 Lancashire, d: 1912 Leith, Midlothian.
Daughter of Ambrose Wilson b: abt 1810 Yorks and Christina Miller b: abt 1814 Hexham.
Sarah married William Young b: abt 1836 Yorks, d: 1906 Leith, Midlothian.
I have 11 children for William and Sarah if you are interested.
Jane
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hi, flora i am not a member of your site at genes, but would like to visit as a guest if possible, you can view my tree as a visitor, on (my heritage ) site, Robert Mitchell family tree. abraham wilsons sister susie,my g. mother is on there. or you can contact me on e mail at (*) there are lots of wilson relatives that i know. but lots are dead now. abraham had other other sisters.one called katy wed a traveller called jim howard. they are olso in carlisle city grave yard.near abrahams father. james, annie lee his wife, is buried with my grand mother susie i have camped with lot of my wilson side decendents.but not the scots side.if you want any more info give me an email.rob
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hello there manishen. the sarah jane cunningham you ask about is my gggrandmother. i have documents her marriage certificate and also a lovely photograph of her and joseph varey 17th feb 1872, and you are correct in thinking that lizzie and andrew are her parents. you can email me at (*)
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Hello SSS1, thanks so much for posting, I have sent you a mail message.
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any of you guy's came across Taylor, Hives or Reeves when you have been searching
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Hi all. I am Cunningham looking for info on John Cunningham B abt 1766. He was son of John Cunningham and Hannah Varley but think it could be Varey.Would be greatful for any info.
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hello my name is steven varey,i have spoken to my sister annabelle who recollects our family in blackpool.she recalls my grandad john varey being married to a jane mason,also my great grandad david varey being married to margaret monks.iam informed that the varey family used to own the donkeys on the beach and also the landau's that pull the holiday makers on the sea front.we are at the moment in the wigan area
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Hi Steven, My great grandad was David Varey and he was married to Margaret Monks. He had three sons, James, ( my grandad), John, and Tom. Tom was the only one not to have any children of his own. My dad, was also called David and he had six sisters. My Dad's mum was Christina Knowles from Lancaster and she married James Varey.
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im looking for photographs of anymore vareys or david varey and his wife margaret monks. also ther is a alice and joseph varey.can anyone help please
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I have a JIMIMIA Varey in my family tree she was married to JOHN GENTLE does anyone have photos of her also there are plenty of varey graves in Astley Bridge cemetry bolton regards kathbn
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Hi Steve,
I am unable to reply to your PM just yet as I am new to the site, I have to make 3 posts, so one more and I'll be ok to talk via PM.
The only photographs that I have are of my dad David Varey and some of his sisters. If you would like to exchange contact details some time in a private message,we could perhaps exchange information about what we know and want to know.
Thanks,
Andy.
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It could be quite interesting as my Dad always wondered what happened to his Uncle John's lot, although he always knew they were in Wigan.
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cheers andy ill be in touch soon.steve
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Certainly come across HIVES. pls contact :)
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hello . i believe the monk family are married to my Ireland family? My great Grandad was John ireland married Elizabeth proctor. regards Selina
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Hi... I recently found out my VAREY and HOWARD were Romany Gypsy! I think it's pretty cool!
I was hoping, like many folks do, to find some royalty... but I find this more interesting!
My great great grandfather was James Varey, born about 1844... maybe Jan 1844, not proven. He married Dinah Howard. I do NOT know James father, but do know he had a brother, but don't know his name... as his nephew was living with him.
Dinah's parents were John Howard and Margaret Lowther.
John Howard's parents were Richard Howard Sr and Margaret "Unknown"
Margaret Lowther's parents were George Lowther and Dinah "Unknown"
Now James and Dinah Varey had 15 children as per census records, but only 6 were living. The 6 living were: Margaret, Downes, Mary Ann, Grace, Sarah and Dina. For the other 9 children, I found two more, through Baptism records, James (born 1874, but had to have died prior to 1881, as he is not on the census) and Charlotte (born 1877, she was not on the 1881 census either). I am still searching for the other 7 children.
Grace Varey, daughter of James Varey and Dinah Howard is my great grandmother and she moved to NYork in 1894. She had married a Peter Manning. I was told he died in England, but a few days ago, I found a baptism record for a Bridget Manning in Pittsburgh, PA and the parents listed were Peter Manning and Grace nee Varey... I know they had a Peter and Dinah. Was told Dinah died on the ship coming over. Only Grace, Peter and Dinah are listed on the ships records. But before Bridget was born, a census record for the US of 1900 lists a daughter Margaret born in Pennsylvania. Now I believe she may have been born in Pittsburgh, but have not located any records (i.e., baptism). Did Peter come to the US ahead of Grace? Why did she arrive to the New York port instead of Philadelphia? Still so many unanswered questions. I'm doing some research of Pittsburgh to see if I can come up with answers before I make a visit there.
Now, back to James Varey and Dinah Howard. James is listed from 1871 to 1891 as either a Hawker, Hawker of Earthenware, Horse Dealer and Potter (also listed on the baptism records of some of his children.)
Oh, Grace, on the ship's manifest is listed as a Hawker.
Dinah's father, John Howard... on the baptism records of his children, he is listed also as a Hawker of Earthenware and Pottery.
Even John Howard's father, Richard is listed as Hawker, Earthenware.
The places of baptism for the children were: St Mary the Virgin, St Peter and Pudsey Parish Church. Not familiar with England, I tried to research on google map to locate them, but not sure if they are the same churches.
Dates go from 1819 to 1891 from the research I have done. I made contact with a young lady in England who is my 4th cousin once removed through the Howard lineage. She is connected through Howard/Stewart... I'm Howard/Varey.
Researched on Romany Gypsies and found lots of websites that gave me more insight on my ancestors and their way of life. Maybe this is why I enjoy camping so much?
Does anyone have any connections to the names I mentioned? I hope so... I am running into dead ends now :(
Oh, Peter Manning that married Grace Varey is not my great grandfather. Grace is found living in New York on the 1900 census with her children, Peter and Margaret and married to her second husband, who is my great grandfather. So, now I want to find out what happened to Peter Manning. I have a pic of his son, Peter as a grown man and a couple of pics of my grandmother with her siblings and half siblings as well as my great grandmother, Grace.
Thank you for any insight!
Annmarie
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Forgot something... Dinah Howard's sister, Sarah... she married William Varey, whose father was James Varey.
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hi miller
my relative is margaret monk who married david varey
they lived in bolton and david was a carpet hawker
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miller
david varey married margaret monk (not monks)
her youngest brother was john monlk my g g father b 1861
though it appears john also used monks on 1901 census
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hi andy v
i am related to margaret monk (not monks) who married david varey
david and margaret moved to bolton
margarets brother jphn monk also moved to bolton with his family
david was a carpet hawker as was john monk
john monk is my ggfather
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hi selinat
monk and ireland are related
lawrence monk married elizabeth ireland which leads to me
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I have a lot of Lancashire VAREYs in my database so I will just add some and then more if anybody asks. They are filed alphabetically by parish:
VAREY BAPTISMS LAN
LAN.MAN Ashton under Lyne St Michael bp6/12/1846 (b22/11) Downs s/o William/Rebecca, lab of A.
LAN.MAN Ashton under Lyne St Michael bp20/1/1867 (b6/1/1866) Nancy d/o Joseph/Lydia, hkr of A
LAN.MAN Ashton under Lyne St Michael bp6/10/1867 (b24/9) Thomas s/o James/Mary Ann, e-w.dlr of A
LAN.MAN Ashton under Lyne St Michael bp1/5/1878 (b16/4) David s/o James/Mary, hkr of Oldhall Street
LAN.MAN Ashton under Lyne St Michael bp10/7/1881 (b31/5) William s/o John/Mary, e-w.dlr of A
LAN.PRE Blackburn Cathedral (St Mary the Virgin) bp22/2/1846 (b12/2) Nancy d/ James/Sarah, chinaman of B. [VARAH sic]
LAN.PRE Blackburn Cathedral (St Mary the Virgin) bp22/5/1864 (b10/5) Richard s/o Joseph/Christiana, e-w.dlr of Moor Street
LAN.PRE Blackburn Cathedral (St Mary the Virgin) bp24/5/1878 (b10/5) Jane d/o James/Martha, hrs.dlr of 9, Water Street
LAN.PRE Blackburn Cathedral (St Mary the Virgin) bp8/9/1880 (b25/8) Ann d/o Joseph/Mary, hkr of 7, Hurdle Street
LAN.PRE Blackburn Cathedral (St Mary the Virgin) bp27/3/1881 (b18/2) Jane Ann d/o William/Ann, hkr of 87, Bolton Street
LAN.PRE Blackburn Holy Trinity bp27/10/1878 (b12/10) Ellen d/o Joseph/Mary, hkr of 33, Moor Street
LAN.PRE Blackburn Holy Trinity bp9/11/1881 (b28/10) William s/o William/.Janet, hkr of 81, Clever Street [VERRAY sic]
LAN.PRE Blackburn Holy Trinity bp18/11/1883 (b5/11) James s/o James/Margaret, hkr of Back Nunn Street [VERRAY sic]
LAN.PRE Blackburn Holy Trinity bp7/12/1884 (b27/11) Henry s/o William/Jane, hkrs of 6, Ellershaw Court
LAN.PRE Blackburn Holy Trinity bp6/9/1885 (b26/8) Thomas s/o David/Margaret, hkr of Ellershaw Court
LAN.PRE Blackburn Holy Trinity bp4/2/1887 (b16/6/1885) Nancy d/o James/Mary, hkr of Ellershaw Court
LAN.PRE Blackburn Holy Trinity bp20/3/1887 (b3/3) Richard s/o Charles/Mary Ann, hkr of Cleaver St
LAN.PRE Blackburn Holy Trinity bp9/5/1887 (b6/5) William s/o David/Margaret, hkr, 2, Old James St
LAN.PRE Blackburn Holy Trinity bp16/12/1888 (b5/12) Nancy d/o William/Jane, hkr, 8 Hindle Rd
LAN.PRE Blackburn Holy Trinity bp23/12/1888 (b13/12) Joseph s/o James/Mary, hkr of 9, Mount Pleasant
LAN.PRE Blackburn Holy Trinity bp12/1/1890 (b26/12/1889) Elizabeth d/o William/Jane, hkr of 10, Hindle Street
LAN.PRE Blackburn Holy Trinity bp29/6/1890 (b2/6) John s/o James/Mary, hkr of Ellershaw Court, 9, Mount Pleasant
LAN.PRE Blackburn Holy Trinity bp22/10/1893 (b6/8) Alfred s/o Joseph/Mary hkr 7 Cleaver St
LAN.PRE Blackburn Holy Trinity bp11/7/1894 (b2/7) Nancy d/o Thomas/Jane, hkr of 13, Ellershaw Court
LAN.PRE Blackburn Holy Trinity bp24/11/1895 (b15/10) Jemima d/o William/Ann, hkrs of Margaret Ann Street
LAN.PRE Blackburn Holy Trinity bp25/10/1896 (b5/10) Sarah Elizabeth d/o William/Annie, hkr of 4, Margaret Ann Street [VARY sic]
LAN.PRE Blackburn Holy Trinity bp7/11/1897 (b18/10) Mary d/o William/Ann, hkr, 29, Moor St
LAN.PRE Blackburn Holy Trinity pbp15/8/1898 (b14/8) Rachael Ann d/o Enoch/Mary Elizabeth, hkr of 3, Margaret Ann Street
LAN.PRE Blackburn Holy Trinity bp10/3/1901 Jane? d/o Jacob/Alice, hrs.dlr of 28, Water St.
LAN.PRE Blackburn Holy Trinity bp30/11/1902 (b29/10) Jacob s/o Richard/Mary, pedlar of 28, Mount Pleasant
LAN.PRE Blackburn St Mary bp15/3/1874 (b6/3) Jane d/o William/Janet, hkr of Duke Street
LAN.PRE Blackburn St Thomas (Copy Nook) bp21/1/1877 (b9/12/1876) Thomas s/o William/Mary Jane, hkr of 50, Bottomgate
LAN.PRE Blackburn St Thomas (Copy Nook) bp8/4/1877 (b9/3) Thomas s/o William/Ann, e-w.dlr of 11, Rose Street
LAN.PRE Blackburn St Thomas (Copy Nook) bp19/7/1896 (b28/6) Richard s/o Thomas/Jane, trav’g hkr of 4, Rodgett Street
LAN.MAN (Gt) Bolton Emmanuel Holy Trinity bp8/10/1854 Joanna d/o Richard/Ann, e-w.dlr of Gt.B [VERY sic]
LAN.BIF Broughton bp25/12/1875 Ann d/o John/Ann, potter of Fiefield
LAN.BIF Broughton bp2/3/1890 John s/o John/Mary Ann?, hkr of New Street
LAN.PRE Burnley Gannow St John the Baptist bp5/2/1882 (b18/1) John s/o David/Margaret, hkr of 10, Log Lane
LAN.PRE Burnley Gannow St John the Baptist bp4/4/1887 (b16/3) Richard s/o James/Mary, hkr of Wood Top
LAN.BIF Cartmel bp29/5/1774 Edward s/o John/-, of Nether Newton, [VERAY sic]
LAN.BIF Cartmel bp26/12/1780 Sarah, illeg d/o -/Martha, of Lindal [VERAY sic]
LAN.BIF Cartmel bp26/12/1847 (b4/12) Sarah d/o Richard/Anne, potter of Ayside
TL
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hi
margaret monk was my great grandfathers older sister
they lived in bolton and sold carpets
david and margarets son david varey died a few months old and is buried in the same grave as flora ireland in preston
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hi
margaret monk was my great g fathers older sister they lived in close proximity in bolton
both families became carpet hawkers
one of david and margaret vareys children is buried in preston
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im looking for photographs of anymore vareys or david varey and his wife margaret monks. also ther is a alice and joseph varey.can anyone help please
i have a photo of margaret monks brother john mank
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hello . i believe the monk family are married to my Ireland family? My great Grandad was John ireland married Elizabeth proctor. regards Selina
yes we are selina
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Hello. I'm in Toowoomba, Australia and have been looking for years now for my VAREY ancestors with partial success.
ROBERT VAREY [RV] is my gggrandfather. He married twice: 1st to JANE HOOL [JH] in St Mary's Lancaster in 1840; then to ELIZABETH L HOBSON in 1853 in Geelong, Victoria, Australia.
RV emigrated with JH in late 1841, with their baby dtr, Margaret, to Geelong, a port town and entry to the goldfields which followed in the 1850's.
The marriage record for RV and JH gives JOHN VAREY as RV's father; he is a "Labourer". Could this fit with the TRAVELLERS/ROMANY people?
At present i hold that Robert's parents were John and Elizabeth Earl. Both came from Kendal area i think.
In an amateur bio following Robert's death in 1855, in Geelong, it mentions in a rather ambiguous way that either he or/and his father came from Kendal, Westmorland. Yet other pieces written in local histories say Robert was from Monmouth, Wales. I cannot reconcile this.
In the 1841 Lancaster census, Robert, Jane and baby Margaret are given along with Robert's colleague, a fellow Mason, Samuel Gilbertson. They were all living together on Friar Street. Someone told me that Friar Street is near Monmouth St in Lancaster, so i've wondered if somehow the two Monmouths got confused!
Anyway i'd love to hear from anybody re the linking in of my Robert and James Varey.
Kind regards
Julie
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i am shane varey rom blackpool son of james varey grandson of jake varey
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Hi everyone,
I have been researching this travelling family for my good friend whose grandmother was Frances Margaret Varey, (daughter of joseph Varey and sarah Cunningham).
I have so-far traced quite a bit of information regarding the whereabouts and occupations of the Varey family and got quite far back, I will put details of my findings in my next post, in the hope that it is of use to someone!!
I have no old pictures of the family. I would love to obtain some photographs of the families once i am past newbie stage on this site !
shelly
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Thanks all for the investments.
Hope one day to locate my John Varey his wife Elizabeth Earl and their progeny!
Regards,
Julie
Australia
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Hi... I recently found out my VAREY and HOWARD were Romany Gypsy! I think it's pretty cool!
I was hoping, like many folks do, to find some royalty... but I find this more interesting!
My great great grandfather was James Varey, born about 1844... maybe Jan 1844, not proven. He married Dinah Howard. I do NOT know James father, but do know he had a brother, but don't know his name... as his nephew was living with him.
Dinah's parents were John Howard and Margaret Lowther.
John Howard's parents were Richard Howard Sr and Margaret "Unknown"
Margaret Lowther's parents were George Lowther and Dinah "Unknown"
Now James and Dinah Varey had 15 children as per census records, but only 6 were living. The 6 living were: Margaret, Downes, Mary Ann, Grace, Sarah and Dina. For the other 9 children, I found two more, through Baptism records, James (born 1874, but had to have died prior to 1881, as he is not on the census) and Charlotte (born 1877, she was not on the 1881 census either). I am still searching for the other 7 children.
Grace Varey, daughter of James Varey and Dinah Howard is my great grandmother and she moved to NYork in 1894. She had married a Peter Manning. I was told he died in England, but a few days ago, I found a baptism record for a Bridget Manning in Pittsburgh, PA and the parents listed were Peter Manning and Grace nee Varey... I know they had a Peter and Dinah. Was told Dinah died on the ship coming over. Only Grace, Peter and Dinah are listed on the ships records. But before Bridget was born, a census record for the US of 1900 lists a daughter Margaret born in Pennsylvania. Now I believe she may have been born in Pittsburgh, but have not located any records (i.e., baptism). Did Peter come to the US ahead of Grace? Why did she arrive to the New York port instead of Philadelphia? Still so many unanswered questions. I'm doing some research of Pittsburgh to see if I can come up with answers before I make a visit there.
Now, back to James Varey and Dinah Howard. James is listed from 1871 to 1891 as either a Hawker, Hawker of Earthenware, Horse Dealer and Potter (also listed on the baptism records of some of his children.)
Oh, Grace, on the ship's manifest is listed as a Hawker.
Dinah's father, John Howard... on the baptism records of his children, he is listed also as a Hawker of Earthenware and Pottery.
Even John Howard's father, Richard is listed as Hawker, Earthenware.
The places of baptism for the children were: St Mary the Virgin, St Peter and Pudsey Parish Church. Not familiar with England, I tried to research on google map to locate them, but not sure if they are the same churches.
Dates go from 1819 to 1891 from the research I have done. I made contact with a young lady in England who is my 4th cousin once removed through the Howard lineage. She is connected through Howard/Stewart... I'm Howard/Varey.
Researched on Romany Gypsies and found lots of websites that gave me more insight on my ancestors and their way of life. Maybe this is why I enjoy camping so much?
Does anyone have any connections to the names I mentioned? I hope so... I am running into dead ends now :(
Oh, Peter Manning that married Grace Varey is not my great grandfather. Grace is found living in New York on the 1900 census with her children, Peter and Margaret and married to her second husband, who is my great grandfather. So, now I want to find out what happened to Peter Manning. I have a pic of his son, Peter as a grown man and a couple of pics of my grandmother with her siblings and half siblings as well as my great grandmother, Grace.
Thank you for any insight!
Annmarie
William gordon born 1831 died 8th January 1872 old bridge, Stirling, Scotland married Sarah lowther. Sarah died 17 august 1880, Sarah was born 1828, Leeds, Yorkshire, daughter of George Lowther
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Hi Flora,
I don't know if my Wilson is modern enough for you, but she is the latest one I have.
Sarah Wilson b: 1837 Lancashire, d: 1912 Leith, Midlothian.
Daughter of Ambrose Wilson b: abt 1810 Yorks and Christina Miller b: abt 1814 Hexham.
Sarah married William Young b: abt 1836 Yorks, d: 1906 Leith, Midlothian.
I have 11 children for William and Sarah if you are interested.
Jane
Sarah Wilson had a sister Jane (1830-1851)who married Richard Ireland who was the son of Richard Ireland and Jane Ireland nee Varey. Jane had a son by Richard ,Ambrose Ireland. Richard Ireland later married Margaret Varey.
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I have a JIMIMIA Varey in my family tree she was married to JOHN GENTLE does anyone have photos of her also there are plenty of varey graves in Astley Bridge cemetry bolton regards kathbn
Jimimia varey and John gentle are my grandparents
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Hello
I am the granddaughter of Jane varey born around 1910. She had a sister margaret. They were born in brooklyn and new jersey.
Their mother was violet varey and their father i understand was violets cousin Downs varey.
Downs died in america and violet returned to england.
I understand Downs was a horse trader. I recall being told relatives were travellers working as hawkers / pedlers of oil skin. I would be scolded if I said Gypsy as we are travellers she would say to me.
I beleive that Frank varey was Janes cousin. She was also called Jenny, and Jean.
I know she was raised in a bow top wagon with several half brothers / sisters in Mansfield.
I would love to know more about my family history if anyone can help.
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Hi Violet
My Great Granddad was John Ireland,i believe his Ireland family married into this Varey family. His wife was Elizabeth Proctor . Do you know Downs mother and father?
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Hi Violet, there is a marriage for Violet Varey to Downes Varey in Rochdale 1910 regards Margaret
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Hi. And welcome violet. I have lots of vary/varey. In my family tree. Seems they were relatives of ours. In traveller Romany. Circles in Lancashire. and Bolton. Areas. Most peddler hawkers. I have them staying Overnight in. 1881 census. Look for peter Mitchell. B. 1831. Bolton. And his wife. Mary Mitchell. Abode. Georgian street.bury.Lancashire. There's traveller folk. Camping and living all about the area.in all censuses of bury.And on my g.g.father's wedding cert. Clithero. 1898. A Jacob varey. Was his witness. A cousin I believe. Try Lancashire online parish clerk. Site. By oilskin.I think its oilcloth a floor covering. As that's what we hawked. I did myself. 35 years back.anyway I think there's a link. In there. Pm. Me if you want. or look at my posts. Regards Rob.
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i am a varey and live in wigan. im told that my ancestors owned a lot of blackpool namely shops. the donkeys on the beach. and the landau coaches that used to take passengers along the prom
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Hello I have the Vareys from my Wilson side x