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Just started on a new family line, and was wondering if there was a census for a William and Mary Davey.
William Thorn Davey born about 1807 and his wife Mary Coles born abt 1810, both Somerset.
Also his son Beadon Davey born abt 1827, I have the 1841 census, is there one for 1851 and 1861?
With such a strange name as Beadon would there also be a record of his baptism? No luck on the I.G.I
Regards
Suzy W
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Re: Beadon
http://freebmd.rootsweb.com has his marriage to Lavinia Palmer in 1849
1861 census for Castle Hill Nether Stowey - all b Nether Stowey
Beadon Davey 35 agric. labourer
Lavinia 30
William 12
Henry 11
Elizabeth 9
Beadon 7
Mary J 5
Harriet 3
Agnes 3 Months
RG9 Piece 1621 Folio 87 Page 9
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1851 for Nether Stowey indexed as Beeton and Leveimier Davey
Beadon Davey 23 b Listock
Lavinia 22 b Taunton
William 2 b Nether Stowey
Henry 4 Months b Nether Stowey
HO107 Piece 1924 Folio 56 Page 41
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Thanks CarloeW
Agnes is a new one to me, she must of died as an infant.
Suzy W
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Is this the right William;- William 46 b, Barnstaple. Mary, wife 62. Mary J 18 daughter. Mary A Hill, lodger.20. Elijah Cole 22 son in law. Catharine Cole 23 daughter in law. 1851 census Barnstaple.
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Not 100% sure, this is where things at a little sketchy.
All I know is Beadons parents were a William Davey (maybe Thorn for middle name) and Mary nee Coles not Cole.
Still have to hunt down their marriage.
Is that right with the ages? William 46 and Mary 62.
Suzy W
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thats what it said, I thought it was unusual. there are other Williams but he was the best match. and as for cole/coles I have soul/sole/soles/souls all different members of the same family. John.
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Agnes is a new one to me, she must of died as an infant.
Deaths
Agnes Davey aged 6 June qtr 1867 Bridgwater Volume 5c Page 276
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I don't think that 1851 census entry for William & Mary is the right couple as they were both born in Devon - not Somerset - as were their children. They are on the 1841 census in Barnstaple but no Beadon
Unfortunately - this is the 1841 for Beadon - no parents - living in Nether Stowey and all are shown as "born in county" (ie) Somerset
Charles Davey 20
Isaac 15
Beadon 12
The entry immediately above has
Robert Coles 25
Mary Coles 40
Further down the same page is
John Davey 55
Mary 60
John 25
Richard 20
John Coles 20
Mary 45
HO107 Piece 966/12 Folio 12 Page 17
Do you have a copy of Beadon's marriage cert confirming his father was William
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Now you have thrown the cat among the pigeons. The information about William Davey I got was via another researcher. I have put together the later generations o.k.
Shipping records and the NZ BMD confirms Beadon Davey, and the book "White Wings" has a written account of their journey.
Beadon may of been a family name, and Charles a brother of William, there is no Charles is later generations in New Zealand. But there are Williams, Mary's and Beadon's.
Beadon married 11 July 1848 at the Parish School, Nether Stowey. Sorry I have not much more to go on after that date.
Cheers
Suzy W
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Hi
I never trust other peoples research of my own family.
As you already know - there is no record of a baptism on the IGI etc for Beadon so how has the other researcher got the info that his parents were William Thorn Davey and Mary Coles?
Do NZ death certs show parents names? If not - mothers names are not shown on English marriage certs and there is no IGI marriage for a William Davey/Mary Coles. If the info did not come from his death cert - I would be asking questions
The 1841 Charles Davey was only 20yrs old so far more likely to be Beadon's brother than his uncle but there is no IGI entry that fits either Isaac or Charles profile
Unless the other researcher already has it - a copy of Beadon's marriage cert is needed
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Yes very true, that is why I am a bit stuck at this point. Looks as a marriage cert has to be ordered, who would think there were so many Coles and Daveys out there.
Suzy W
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seems to be few Beadons. the criminal records on ancestry have Beadon Davey, age 15. trial date 15th oct, 1844 acquittal. and Beadon Davey trial date 6th jan, 1857, imprisonment. [ just deleted my duplicate posting]
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Beadon Davey sep, q, 1849, bridgewater, somerset 10,501 and another one sep, q, 1854, bridgewater 5c, 410. and; 1861 census, nether stowey; Beadon Davey 35, Lavinia wife 30, henry, s, 11. Elizabeth, d, 9. Beadon, s, 7. Mary, J. d, 5. Harriett, d, 3. Agnes, d, 3months. all born nether stowey.somerset.
See my reply above - 1851 and 1861 details already given plus marriage details
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whoops, sorry. scrubbed it out, dont want to complicate things farther.got carried away. :-[
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Interesting about criminal charges... I have found them to be a bit naughty in New Zealand with a number of them up on charges for petty crime.
Suzy W
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I too have been researching Beadon's parents (Beadon is my gtgtgtgf) and was delighted to find others researching the same people for a change!
I have Beadon and Lavinia's marriage certificate (incase you haven't got a copy yet) - it says Beadon's father is WILLIAM THORN (not Davey). He was a LABOURER. Beadon's mother is not given. Also, Lavinia's father is JOSEPH PALMER (also a LABOURER). They were married 1 July 1849 at the Parish School, Nether Stowey, Somerset. Beadon and Lavinia signed the certificate with a cross.
I also found Beadon in the 1851 census (as Beeton and Leveimier!). This census said he was born at Lilstock, Somerset. So I googled Lilstock and found a pile of transcribed Lilstock BMDs. Beadon was baptised at Lilstock on 18/12/1825. On the baptism record it said his parents were MARY DAVEY (no father given). Earlier in the record (1819-1823) there are four children born to EDAWARD/MARY DAVEY. Two of these children are CHARLES DAVEY (bapt 1820) and ISAAC (bapt 1823) - are these the two Beadon was living with in 1841 in Nether Stowey? Maybe.
I had a look at the marriage records and found that an Edward Davey married a Mary Coles on 19/11/1818 at Lilstock. So that explains where the name Mary Coles comes from, but it still gives us no direct link to Beadon. I wondered whether Edward Davey died before Beadon was born (and hence why he is not given on the baptism record), but the burials record for Lilstock stop at 1812. So haven't yet found this info.
Curiously, there is also an ANABELLA DAVY (no e) baptised at Lilstock in 1828 and again MARY is only listed as the parent. Is this the same Mary as Beadon's mother? Don't know. On the baptism record it appears there is another Davey family spelled DAVY - so Beadon and Anabella may not be related.
Hope this helps. To google the Lilstock records type in Lilstock registers. It should come up with a www.wsom.org.uk website. Find Lilstock (and Nether Stowey, Over Stowey) in there.
I would be keen to hear if you find more info about the mystery of Beadon's father. I cannot find a William Thorn anywhere.
Cheers, Fiona.
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Good to hear from you.
Yes that is right about William Thorn being his father, only found that out a few weeks back. William Thorn must of had a quick fling with Mary. Mary's husband was Edward Davey and he died about 18 months before Beadon's arrival.
William Thorn show's in the 1851 census living in London with his wife and two daughters.
I have plenty on the New Zealand contingent if you like to send a P.M I can get your email address.
Strange as I only had contact from another relation yesterday regarding the Davey's so more the better.
Regards
Suzy W
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Hi Suzy
How do I send a PM (private email?) - sorry, new to this.
I have a little bit of info about Beadon and Lavinia here in NZ - I wonder if our info is the same? Look forward to sharing with you.
Fiona.
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Sent a P.M to FIP
Suzy W
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seems to be few Beadons. the criminal records on ancestry have Beadon Davey, age 15. trial date 15th oct, 1844 acquittal. and Beadon Davey trial date 6th jan, 1857, imprisonment. [ just deleted my duplicate posting]
Suzy W Am in the process of doing a family tree on the Davey Family and i have managed to go back as far Edward Davey from Lilstock who was married to Mary Coles. Edward Davey died in 1863 and is buried at St George Dunster.. I have the children listed as Henry who is my father descendant. Charles Isacc and Mary with Edward so was it confirmed that Mary had another child? Many Thanks Laura
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Suzy W Am in the process of doing a family tree on the Davey Family and i have managed to go back as far Edward Davey from Lilstock who was married to Mary Coles. Edward Davey died in 1863 and is buried at St George Dunster.. I have the children listed as Henry who is my father descendant. Charles Isacc and Mary with Edward so was it confirmed that Mary had another child? Many Thanks Laura
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Hi Beadon is my gtgtgf, his son James being my gtgf. Does anyone have any info regarding William Thorn or his family. Also any info on Edward and Marys parents/grandparents. Many thanks
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Hi Geoff
The only parents I have found for William Thorne is a possible match is Rodger and Mary Thorne. William later married a Elizabeth? and lived in London with his wife and two daughters.
Mary and Edward Davey had five known children, Charles, Issac, Henry, Mary Ann and Elis. There is also a daughter born to Mary after the death of Edward Davey Anabella (father unknown).
I have a bit on James Beadon Davey, he certainly got himself in a bit of bother in NZ.
Regards
Suzy W
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Thanks Suzy,
We have a lot of info regarding Beadon and a bit on Henry but not much on the other siblings. James did find himself infront of the courts a few times on both sides of the law,but for nothing serious though. A fewd with his brother inlaw accounted for some of these, stone throwing incident was at his niece and then brother in law charged with chasing him with a revolver threatning to shoot him. Do you have any death records/notice for Edward or Mary, an earlier poster (LDavey)had Edward dying in 1863 and buried at St George Dunster but that would seem about 40yrs to late given he died before Beadons birth
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No confirmed dates for either Edward or Mary.
Do you have photo's of James? I have a couple here somewhere, you can p.m me for a email address.
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HI
I noticed there is another relative of Beadon Davey looking for information on the family :))
I found out some information from another family member of Beadon Davey that Edward Davey died 1823 aged 43 he was born 1779 in dodington he was a son of Richard Davey and Sarah Davey (Villis)
On Anabella Davey marriage papers she married a man named William Modley and it was written that her fathers name was John Burton.
Hope this all ties up
No record of Mary Coles death as yet how fustrating.
Thanks Laura :)
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I wonder if this is the correct Edward Davey? Anabella was born 1828, Edward died 1823? ::)
I wonder who was Robert Coles in the 1841 census? Twenty years younger than Mary.
Certainly no death date for Mary, unless she got married again.
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Hello Suzy,
Have just found your correspondence on Beadon Davey's burial at St. Saviours Church, Rolleston, N.Z. I'm pleased to inform he does have a plaque headstone which several NZ descendants contributed to and erected January, 2013.
Late last year I tracked down the 30 acre block of land he farmed in Rolleston.
Beadon's second son, Henry, was my great grandfather.
We will be visiting the UK and passing through Somerset towards the end of July ( in just over a weeks time!) visiting Lilstock, Nether Stowey and Culmstock. I wonder if you or another Davey family researcher is living in this vicinity? Hope this message is timely, we leave NZ Monday am. JoCCEFM
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The Davey side is my mother-in-laws family, her line carry down from Walter Davey. Then the next Walter Davey.
We are in Christchurch
I think I might have the photo of Beadon's stone somewhere among all the records.
Have a great trip, and hope you find some old skeletons, especially the Palmer side, Google ..Paupers and Pig Killers and under Joseph Palmer (father of Lavinia) is a good read
Suzy W
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Hi if you get this messge i would be happy to meet up with you in somerset and i know a few other davey's i have been in contact with living in netherstowey who would also happily meet up and show you around my gggf was Henry Beadon brother. They are also doing the family tree
Hope to hear from you Laura
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Hi Laura,
So good to hear from you again.We are staying tonight and tomorrow night near Heathrow airport and will be going out about 9am tomorrow. On Sunday we're driving via Henley on Thames and Bath and our accommodation that night is at Postbridge, Dartmore Forest. Would love to meet you and any other relatives. We can stop or deviate anywhere on the way down that you think best. Have also booked a reader at Taunton Records office on Tuesday morning. Looking forward to hearing from you. Do hope we can meet up, Johanne.
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Johanne thank you for getting back to me I live in Bristol I have spoken with family members in Bridgwater and we are all meeting on Tuesday morning and we will meet you at the Taunton office if this is ok. There are 3 of us. If you can give us a time we will be there we are all so looking forward to meeting you the girls are excited.
Thanks Laura
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Hi Laura,
If we could meet at 11am at the Taunton record office that would be great. When we left from N.Z. I never imagined this could be possible! Yes, I'm very excited too.
Four of us will surely have lots to exchange.
Looking forward to Tuesday morning,
Johanne.
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Yes Johanne I know when I got the email on roots chat and I messaged you I thought I had missed this opportunity. Caroline and Sue live in Bridgwater and Nether Stowey I found Caroline on ancestry and Sue on Facebook threw a nether Stowey ancestry group. We are in contact but I have not been down to meet them so this is very exciting for all of us the girls are really looking forward to meeting you.
We will see you there 😊
Laura
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Me again Laura,
Unsure if there is more than one heritage centre but the address I will visit is - Somerset Heritage Centre Brunel way, Norton Fitzwarren, Taunton.
Till Tuesday, when the four of us will meet.
Johanne.
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Thanks Johanne see you tomorrow 😊
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Re Beadon, my mother, Frances Davey has done a lot of family research and I know was in contact with you Carol and you Johanne.
I am currently in Wales as my daughter has just had a baby. I am hoping to travel through Somerset later in the month and would be really glad to meet up if anyone is keen.
I have all mum's data with me so we can compare notes if you like. My temp UK ph no is 07538 806 450.
Cheers,
Michele