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Wales (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Wales => Cardiganshire => Topic started by: Ladyhawk on Friday 25 September 09 08:24 BST (UK)
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Can anyone help please with a look up on 1861 & 1871 census for
Abraham ISHMAEL b1854 Cardigan occ. lead miner/tinker, mother Mary b1818 Cardigan.
in 1881 RG11 5324/29/1, 1891 RG12 4444/114/38 and 1901 RG13 5036/129/23 living in Aberdare
Thanks
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Hi Ladyhawk,
1861
RG9/4201 84 18
Yspytty Ystwyth, Cardiganshire
Glannantisaz(?)
David Ishmael, head, 39, Lead Miner
Mary, wife, 42
Mary, dau, 16, Mine Dresser
Ellen, dau, 13, ditto
David, son, 11, scholar
Sarah, dau, 8
Abraham, son, 6
Emma, dau, 2
All born Yspytty
:)
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1871
RG10/5568 85 26
Ysbytty Ystwyth
Grannant?
Mary Ishmael, head, wid, 52, Householder
Mary, dau, unm, 24, Oredresser(?)
Abraham, son, 16, Miner
Emma, dau, 12
Elizabeth, dau, 8
All born Ysbytty
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RG9/4201/80/9 sch 44 Gristfaen
Abraham born Ysbytty
John Ishmael Head Mar 47 lead miner
Margret wife 49
Morgan 23 lead miner
Martha 20 mine dresser
David 15 lead miner
William 10 Scholar and Abraham 7
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Sorry! Will teach me to read properly before I search! :-[
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Christening;
David ISHMAEL
16 April April 1820
Yspytty-Wstwyth, Cardigan, Wales
Parents JOHN and MARGARET ( double checked Mary, not Margaret)
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Hi xtoner,
Dont worry We all get carried away and make mistakes.
At least you found his parents :)
Presume that was the 1841 you posted.
Trish :)
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Hi there,
No, it was 1861 but I hadn't paid attention to "mother Mary" - I think "my" Abraham may be a cousin perhaps ?
Good luck with it all anyway :)
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Hi everyone,
Thanks you all for your help finding Abraham & family - very much appreciated.
Have found the marriage entry for his father David ISHMAEL to Mary JONES Dec. q 1842 Tregaraon.
If it's not too much trouble could I ask for a look up on 1841 & 1851 for David ISHMAEL - many thanks
Ladyhawk :)
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1851 Census
Yspytty, Cardiganshire, Wales
HO107/2487/97/25
David ISHMAEL, 30, head, mar, miner in coal mine
Mary, 33, wife
George, 8, son
Mary, 6, dau
Elinor (Ellen?), 3, dau
David, 1, son
All born Yspytty
This fits with the 1845 Marriage you found.
Trish :)
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I think this is David in 1841..
You would need to get the marriage cert of David and Mary to confirm the Fathers names.
There is also this possible christening IGI;
David ISHMAEL,16 April 1820, Ysptytty, parents John and Mary
1841 Census
Ysptytty, Cardigan
HO107/1374/13/Ysptytty Ystwyth
John ISHMAEL, 50, lead miner
Mary, 41
Mary, 25
Martha, 21
DAVID, 18
Abraham, 12
EDWARD, 70
George, 8
Mary, 6
Elinor, 2
Mary, 2
Wonder of 70yr old Edward could be Johns Father?
Names seem to be used for children of David/Mary also.
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There is a Family Group record IGI that has Jhn born 1799, son of Edward. You can look at it yourself.
Enjoy your Holiday ;D
Trish
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There is a Family Group record IGI that has Jhn born 1799, son of Edward. You can look at it yourself.
Enjoy your Holiday ;D
Trish
Hi Trish,
Thanks you so much for everything, very much appreciated.
Have had a look at the IGI for John b1799, son of Edward, this certainly ties up with Edward age 70 on 1841c with John & family.
What a shame they have only put ISHMAEL as name of Edward's father and Mrs Edward ISHMAEL as Edward's wife.
Many thanks again to everyone whose contributed as I've now got
names of Abraham's father David, G/Father John & possibly GG/F Edward
Ladyhawk :) :) :)
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You are very welcome :)