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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Somerset => Topic started by: Mike E on Sunday 06 March 05 17:46 GMT (UK)
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I would be pleased to have information on these families in West Coker - around 1770-1850's - especially Giles Rendell, who had a daughter Ann who married George Bird on 11 Oct 1846.
Mike E
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My wife is the great-grand-daughter of George Bird born 1815, are you related?
I think my information mainly confirms your own but it goes like this,
There were three Giles Rendals in baptised West Coker namely,
[1]Giles son of William & Frances Rendal bap. 12 July 1789 - known siblings John bap 29 Nov 1798
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My wife is the great-grand-daughter of George Bird born 1815, are you related?
I think my information mainly confirms your own but it goes like this,
There were three Giles Rendals in baptised West Coker namely,
[1] Giles son of William & Frances Rendal bap. 12 July 1789, he may be the one buried 23 April 1831 aged 42 - known siblings John bap 29 Nov 1798
[2] Giles son of Lot & Mary Rendal bap. 5 Jan 1790 - known siblings Ann bap 16 May 1785 and William bap 20 May 1798
[3] Giles son of Abraham & Ann Rendall bap. 7 July 1793. Known siblings include John bap 25 Dec 1785, Mary bap 8 July 1787, Jane 12 July 1789, and Samuel bap 12 July 1795. There must be others since they buried at least three more, Elias bur 25 March 1792, another Elias bur 17 Dec 1797, and Edward bur 21 Jan 1798. Probably all these families were baptising somewhere else as well but I haven't found them.
There also seems to be a fourth Giles, buried aged 59 21 Sept 1844 who doesn't fit any of the above.
Giles Rendall married Mary Rendall 29 Nov 1813 and produced Ann bap 18 Sept 1814 she eventually married George Bird 11 Oct 1846, although we believe she then had an illegitimate daughter Ann aged about 10. It seems to be a bit of a habit in West Coker. My bet is that Mary is the sister of Giles [3] who was a witness to their wedding. But I can't make out whether the husband is Giles [1] or Giles [2].
If that is right then Mary's parents are Abraham Randal mason and Ann Penny, married 8 August 1785. I haven't so far traced either of them further back.
How does this fit your data?
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Mike,
I have several Rendall/Rendell in my family tree:
Martha Rendall m. Edward Apsey bapt. 1771 West Coker, their daughter Sarah Apsey bapt 1807 m. James Baker b. 1810.
Lavinia Rendell b. ca. 1840 WC wife of William Farnham b. ca. 1840 WC. Their daughter Rosetta Farnham b. ca. 1875 WC married William Baker b. ca. 1875 WC. William Baker is a grandson of James Baker and Sarah Apsey. Lavinia and Willams's son Henry Farnham b. ca. 1863 WC married Blanche Roberts b. ca. 1878 WC, Blanche a granddaughter of James and Sarah, first cousin of William.
Emily Rendell b. ca. 1862 WC m. Frederick Arnold b. ca. 1864 Yeovil. Don't yet know Emily's parents.
Thanks,
Bob
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Hello Mike E,
My great grandfather was James Rendell, born in West Coker on June 17 1852.
His father was George Rendell born approx. 1828 in West Coker,and his mother was Laura Rendell, born in approx. 1831 in Hardington,
James went to India in 1871, he joined the 51st Light Infantry
He married in Dinapore , Ida Florence Thompson, and died May 21 1925, at Allahabad.
If you have any information, I would love to hear from you.
Kind regards
Jay C.
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Thanks to all for the above information.
My family are descended from Giles [3] Rendal mentioned by Albert W above - and his info agrees with my findings.
Bobcat: I have a copy of Rendal part of the West Coker marriages indexes 1755-1812 and 1813-1837.
I can confirm Martha Rendall m. Edward Apsey on 4 Mar 1794;
We also have a James Baker bap. in South Petherton on 31/12/1809 - parents James Baker and Mary (nee Baker too). We don't know who he married. Do you have any more details on your James Baker's parents/place of birth?
f stop: sorry I don't have any information on your Rendells.
Regards
Mike
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Mike,
Sorry for the long delay. I didn't get word of your new post.
Thanks for the info.
I have my James Baker baptised 12 Aug 1810 West Coker, son of James Baker and Ann Sandford.
Bob
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I have a Sampson Rendall from Coker, but I don't know who his parents were. A one point he was living with Charlotte Rendall.....ring any bells to anyone?
Karen
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Hi,
My main interest is in East (not West) Coker but the Rendells moved around a bit. My great-aunt Lily Giles (b. 1883) married Arthur Ralph Rendell in 1902, and I've tried to record the relationship of the Rendells in the area on my tree on my website (see my rootschat profile for url). I was also contacted by the Rendells of Australia and have added their branch of the tree. It might not help but you never know.
Also, I'm in the midst of transcribing all the East Coker parish registers and census records and placing them online (see website again) - there's quite a lot of mention of the Rendells.
Regards, Chaltis
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Chaltis,
Thanks for the response....I actually have more information than I thought..(sometimes it all runs together!)
Sampson (or Samson) Rendell lists his place of birth on the census records as West Coker but the birth information I found in the parish records lists it as Crewkerne.....I checked out your website but did not find anyone from Crewkerne. All the religious first names makes me think there must be a connection somewhere.
Karen
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Sampson (or Samson) Rendell lists his place of birth on the census records as West Coker but the birth information I found in the parish records lists it as Crewkerne.....
Karen
Hi -
I have a couple of transcriptions of Rendal / Randal West Coker bmds - the only references I have to Sampson that might be relevant are:
Marriage 23 December 1838
Sampson RANDALL (23) to Sarah COX (22)
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Baptisms
18 Dec 1814 Sansom [sic] s. of Lazarus and Sarah Rendell, lab.
Sampson Randell (lab) and Sarah had a daughter Sarah Ann, baptised 6 Oct 1839.
There is also a marriage for Lazarus Rendell and Sarah Caines (tp) 8 Dec 1806.
Sansom's father Lazarus appears to have been baptised 17 May 1791, son of Lazarus and Hannah Rendell.
There is a possible marriage of Lazarus Rendall and Ann [Hannah?] Watts (tp) 25 Dec 1773.
Lazarus Rendell (snr) was buried on 17 May 1791 [Was his son baptised on the same date because it was handy as they were in the church?!]
and his wife 'Anne Randel wife of Lazarus Randel' was buried 5 Sept 1784.
You have not given any dates in your original post - but would these dates make sense?
Mike
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Hi
Here is the information I have regarding the 'Sampson', 'Samson' Rendells.
There is a Sampson Rendell living in Crewkerne and 2 Samson Rendells living in West Coker.
The 1851 census shows Sampson Rendell aged 29y, Trunk maker, born Crewkerne, with wife Mary A. and 2 children, Richard (3) and Ann (6m) all born in Crewkerne.(Simeon Rendell is living there as a lodger aged 16, a basket maker apprentice.) In 1861, Sampson is still in Crewkerne but a widower with 5 children, and his grandmother Mary Marsh, a widow aged 68, as housekeeper. In 1871 Sampson is still in Crewkerne with Sarah as wife and 3 children. This family have not been found in the 1881 census.
The 1851 census in West Coker shows Samson Rendall, aged 26y, a baker, born East Chinnnock, with wife Mary and son George (3) and a neice Harriet Chapman (8) born Hardington.
Also in the 1851 census in West Coker is another Samson Rendell, aged 35y, a labourer, born West Coker, with a wife Sarah and three children Sarah (9), Mary (5), and Samson (2) together with a lodger, Robert Cox, a widower aged 56y. All the family including the lodger were born in West Coker.
The 1861 census, shows a Charles Rendell, living at 42 West Coker Street, West Coker, aged 28y, canvas weaver, born West Coker, with wife Flora and children Mercy(6) and Cornelius (2) and Sarah Baker a widow described as mother in law.
Was Sarah Baker formerly Sarah Apsey?
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Charles Rendell is uncle to James Rendell, my great grandfather.
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Hi
I have info on two Rendalls from the Cokers if they are of any interest:
- Elizabeth b 1761, Ch Hinton St Georges, m 1777 Merriott, d. 1849, +Merriott who married Edward Murly
- Charles , who I understand married Catherine Murly daughter of the above.
I believe the Murlys and the Rendalls were top makers of Coker White - Nelsons choice of canvas for his ships.
For some reason a lot of records of these villages are often not on line. If you come across anything to do with Murly (not so much Murley - it can be the same family but my connection is with the non e spelled version!) I'd be delighted to hear from you.
Sorry for interrupting
Colin
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Hi Chaltis
Regarding your note:
"Also, I'm in the midst of transcribing all the East Coker parish registers and census records and placing them online (see website again) - there's quite a lot of mention of the Rendells."
I am related to the Barrett Family from East Coker, (John Barrett & Mary Ham are the earliest I have found) so anything you transcribe, I would be greatly interested in.
Regards
Tanya Barrett
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Thanks Tanya
Anything relating to the Murlys would be of interest.
I have links by marriage with 2 members of that family and am in touch with others living in South America and New Zealand.
Thanks and I will look forward to hearing from you! Here is a skeletal list of my Murlys for your interest.
Colin
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I am related to Giles number 3 (GGGGrandson) but looking for Bartholemew (I think born around 1690 ish or maybe before. There is one sent to Barbados in 1685 but not sure if it's the same or father/son.
My wife is the great-grand-daughter of George Bird born 1815, are you related?
I think my information mainly confirms your own but it goes like this,
There were three Giles Rendals in baptised West Coker namely,
[1] Giles son of William & Frances Rendal bap. 12 July 1789, he may be the one buried 23 April 1831 aged 42 - known siblings John bap 29 Nov 1798
[2] Giles son of Lot & Mary Rendal bap. 5 Jan 1790 - known siblings Ann bap 16 May 1785 and William bap 20 May 1798
[3] Giles son of Abraham & Ann Rendall bap. 7 July 1793. Known siblings include John bap 25 Dec 1785, Mary bap 8 July 1787, Jane 12 July 1789, and Samuel bap 12 July 1795. There must be others since they buried at least three more, Elias bur 25 March 1792, another Elias bur 17 Dec 1797, and Edward bur 21 Jan 1798. Probably all these families were baptising somewhere else as well but I haven't found them.
There also seems to be a fourth Giles, buried aged 59 21 Sept 1844 who doesn't fit any of the above.
Giles Rendall married Mary Rendall 29 Nov 1813 and produced Ann bap 18 Sept 1814 she eventually married George Bird 11 Oct 1846, although we believe she then had an illegitimate daughter Ann aged about 10. It seems to be a bit of a habit in West Coker. My bet is that Mary is the sister of Giles [3] who was a witness to their wedding. But I can't make out whether the husband is Giles [1] or Giles [2].
If that is right then Mary's parents are Abraham Randal mason and Ann Penny, married 8 August 1785. I haven't so far traced either of them further back.
How does this fit your data?
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- Charles , who I understand married Catherine Murly daughter of the above.
I believe the Murlys and the Rendalls were top makers of Coker White - Nelsons choice of canvas for his ships.
Charles Rendall (1792-1879), my 3x great-grandfather. Married Catherine Murley (1799-1881). 1861 Census gives him as draper in Hinton St George.
His son, Walter Rendall (1828-1900), my 2x great grandfather, married his first cousin Catherine Rendall Goodland (she thus becoming Catherine Rendall Rendall).
Think there are some other cousin marriages in Rendall family - also with Murleys - resulting in several x Murley Rendalls - but haven't quite disentangled. Lots of interconnected Murleys/Rendalls/Goodlands around area of Hinton St George, East Coker, Merriott in Somerset. Tendency in family to include mother's surname as middle name.
Meriott website http://merriottfamiliesgenealogy.net may be useful.
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Hello
The family are very lucky to be substantially in Dorset where the Online Parish Clerks website is superb.
I have links with the Murly (not as far as I am aware necessarily Murley but they may be one and the same.
More than happy to share any data I have on them and their ancestors. Be specific and let me know who you are looking for and or where they were from and I will be ahppy to forward what I can.
Colin
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Hello
The family are very lucky to be substantially in Dorset where the Online Parish Clerks website is superb.
I have links with the Murly (not as far as I am aware necessarily Murley but they may be one and the same.
More than happy to share any data I have on them and their ancestors. Be specific and let me know who you are looking for and or where they were from and I will be ahppy to forward what I can.
Colin
Thanks for kind offer. Still need to do a bit of sorting to ask anything sensibly specific! My Catherine Murly or Murley - not quite sure which she is from deciphering the Census handwriting etc.