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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Nottinghamshire => Topic started by: melonhead on Friday 02 October 09 20:34 BST (UK)
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James Cowley b. 1858 in west drayton, notts when did he die and where buried?he was licensee of the black boy inn in retford
married sarah elizabeth snowden of london 1861 and she died ( most unfortunately fell off the sofa and died !! )Sept 1906 in east retford, notts
where was she buried?
the james cowley married a SOPHIE who was a housekeeper in the White Hart inn in retford, what was her maiden name and when did she die.
James had 3 children Winifred cowley b. 6/9/1889 in e.retford
dorothy may b. 1895 east retford
james sydney cowley b. dec 1890 east retford
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Hi
I thought James Cowley married a Sarah
if so
a marriage for him could be this one
James Cowley
1889
East Retford
March quarter
Notts
vol 7b
page 24
on the same page is Sarah Elizabeth Hill
ricky
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Hi
When did he marry Sophie ??? ???
ricky
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1910 in lincoln but would like to know where they are all buried too, thanks
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his first wife sarah elizabeth snowden 1861 london fell off the sofa and died in 1906, east retford, well at the black boy pub actually, melonhead
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Hi
Whats the ref for the marriage to Sarah Elizabeth Snowden ???
ricky
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i dont know it and have not got there marriage, have got for chat room his second wife name now Sophia Goodwin 1910 in lincoln 7a 1144.
when did she die and where are sarah, james and sophia buried. thanks a lot for yor help
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I think you have the wrong Sarah, as I couldnt see a marriage for a Sarah Elizabeth Snowden to a James Cowley anywhere.
Your best bet is to get one of the birth certs of the children, that would tell you who her maiden name was.
Plus the only Sarah Elizabeth Snowden born 1861ish was born in Yorkshire
ricky
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thank you anyway you are doing an excellent job ! ;D
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There is a family tree on anc*stry saying what you have about Sarah Elizabeth Snowden, born London, but thats all unscourced, so would take that with a pinch of salt
ricky
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hi
Just to lt you know there are three births for a possible Sarah Elizabeth Hill in London around 1861 ish ;)
ricky
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Looking on the 1911 census there is a Sophia Cowley aged 49 living in Worksop Notts, and a James Cowley aged 53 living in Worksop Notts
As its a pay per view site, you would have to buy credits to look and see if they are a couple or not :-\
ricky
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Birth reg for
Winifred Cowley
1889
Dec Quarter
East Retford
Notts
vol 7b
page 10
or
James Sidney Cowley
1890
Dec Quarter
East Retford
Notts
vol 7b
page 9
or
Dorothy May Cowley
1894
June Quarter
East Retford
Notts
Volume: 7b
Page: 7
get any of these birth certs and it will give you their mothers maiden name, then we will know if we are on the right track
ricky
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I have stumbled across this website in search of the history of the Black Boy Inn, Retford. I am very interested in the idea that the landlords wife died in the pub, do you have any proof of this? Also if you have happened to find out more about the pub in your research I would appreciate it if you would share your information.
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i have the copy of the court inquiry into the death of Sarah Elizabeth Hill, they thought there might have been foul play, BUT she was drunk and fell off the sofa and broke her neck, this was my great-grandmother. i will try and dig out some info for you, i have not done any research for about 1 year, so i am a little rusty now, regards.
you didn't say what your link was and where you come from ??
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Thank you ever so much, any help is greatly appreciated. I am looking to create a full history of the building. I work in the heritage industry myself so any excuse to do some research. Your information would flesh out what I've already found.
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Can I help? I am the daughter of James sidney Cowley and James Cowley was my Grandad. I have
a photo of the Black Boy Hotel in Retford with my grandmother Sophia standing outside. I would love to know who is searching and if i can be of help. I am 86yrs old.
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Just realised I said my grandmother pictured outside the Inn was sophia when I meant Sarah. Sophia was my step-grandmother, sorry to confuse.
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I am terribly sorry to have left your reply unanswered, unfortunately I've been very busy with my MA and had to drop my research. Thankfully the MA is nearly at an end so I can start again. It would be really interesting to hear about what you know about the black boy. I've just started trying to locate the court papers. I've currently got the plans for the building when all the alterations were made and a inventory from the late 30's. Would be interesting to hear about the early history of the building as records only seem to go so far, suggesting the building might have had other uses in the distant past.
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Birth reg for
Winifred Cowley
1889
Dec Quarter
East Retford
Notts
vol 7b
page 10
or
James Sidney Cowley
1890
Dec Quarter
East Retford
Notts
vol 7b
page 9
or
Dorothy May Cowley
1894
June Quarter
East Retford
Notts
Volume: 7b
Page: 7
get any of these birth certs and it will give you their mothers maiden name, then we will know if we are on the right track
ricky
Just to add my pennyworth
Baptisms at St Swithun East Retford parents James and Sarah Elizabeth Cowley
11-10-1889 Winifred abode Savile St father a hotel servant
11-11-1890 James Sidney abode Savile St father a hotel servant
1-6-1894 Dorothy May abode Black Boy Inn father a publican mother listed as Sarah
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As noted earlier the only marriage to a Sarah Elizabeth she is listed as HILL.Having said that there are 2 baptisms for a Sarah Elizabeth Snowden
25-11-1846 Warsop with parents Francis and Sarah
5-2-1865 Clayworth parents George Jepson and Christiana
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I am interested to know who Melonhead is. You must be the child of one of my cousins,
Jim, Joan or Derek Westley. Any information of The Black Boy Inn I will answer if you tell me
what you need. I have a picture of Sarah Cowley, my grandmother outside the Inn and also
my Grandfather James Cowley in his Morris Cowley treasured car.