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Title: A Real Humdinger
Post by: Davidjnr on Thursday 15 October 09 00:46 BST (UK)
 :)

Hi everyone. I wonder if anyone can help me with this humdinger. I have a Henry Newbury 1791 – 1849 married to a Martha Eckersley 1798 – they have the following children all born in Manchester:

John Eckersley Newbury 1820 (he was later Tried and Sentenced in Lancaster Quarter Sessions England UK for 7 years for stealing lead from a roof)
Henry Newbury 1826 is on the 1841 census with his twin sons and a lodger transcribed as Hickson who is connected to the neighbours where Mary Newbury the daughter is staying i.e the Cartwightes, the Hickson family live next door.
William Newbury 1826 as above with Henry and his father.

Which comes to Mary Newbury 1829
Martha 1834 and
Elizabeth 1836

Martha the mother, Elizabeth and Martha are all nowhere to be found on the 1841 census which leads me to believe they all died, as Henry is living with his sons and his daughter is living with his sister from Ireland married to a Cartwight.

All of the sons i.e. John Eckersley Newbury, Henry jnr and William his twin I have traced along with there marriages and children however I cannot find Mary b.1829 christened 1834. on any census?

Can anyone help?


Title: Re: A Real Humdinger
Post by: CaroleW on Thursday 15 October 09 01:15 BST (UK)
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however I cannot find Mary b.1829 christened 1834. on any census

As you may already know - the Manchester 1851 was water damaged during storage although some parts have been restored

This is a possible marriage for her

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1851
 
Mary Newbery to  John Kay at  Manchester Cathedral Records at Manchester CATH/86/341

The IGI shows the date as 2.11.1851 so if it can be looked up at the records office her fathers name can be checked
Title: Re: A Real Humdinger
Post by: Davidjnr on Thursday 15 October 09 01:49 BST (UK)
Fantastic. Any children are they on the census?
Title: Re: A Real Humdinger
Post by: Mr. MIGKY on Thursday 15 October 09 08:40 BST (UK)
Might be worth you having a look on here foe 1851 census.
Migky

CLICK 4 1851 CENSUS (http://www.1851-unfilmed.org.uk/)
Title: Re: A Real Humdinger
Post by: jvy20 on Thursday 15 October 09 14:54 BST (UK)
Hi,

This might be a possibility for 1861

Bedford near Leigh Lancashire

John Kay H 27  Silk weaver b Leigh

Mary Kay W 32 Silk weaver b Dean

Ann Kay d 5 b Bedford Lancs

RG9/2800 folio 113 page 29

Regards

John
Title: Re: A Real Humdinger
Post by: CaroleW on Thursday 15 October 09 17:36 BST (UK)
Hi

I don't think we should jump the gun just yet as it needs to be established that her fathers name was Henry on the marriage entry

It's too easy to go down the wrong path - particularly as her surname is spelt differently than on the 1841

If nobody can look it up for you and you decide to buy the cert - order it via the LancashireBMD website.  If you put a condition on the application that fathers name must be Henry and it isn't - you won't be charged.  If you order it via the GRO with the same condition - they will charge £3 for a failed search

www.lancashirebmd.org.uk
Title: Re: A Real Humdinger
Post by: Mr. MIGKY on Thursday 15 October 09 18:08 BST (UK)
Snap CaroleW
To your last comments
Migky ;)
Title: Re: A Real Humdinger
Post by: aussienewberry on Sunday 03 October 10 11:11 BST (UK)
my great grand father John Eckersley Newbury died in Australia in 1900.....i have information on all his descendants, but dont know anything about his family in the UK...can anyone help? plz
Title: Re: A Real Humdinger
Post by: Davidjnr on Sunday 03 October 10 11:46 BST (UK)
I have the marriage certificate somewhere will post the details when I find it. All my Newbury branch certificates were together but I've misplaced the marriage certificate.

Pm me I'm a Newbury descendant :-)
Title: Re: A Real Humdinger
Post by: CaroleW on Monday 04 October 10 00:13 BST (UK)
David

Aussienewberry is a new member and must make 3 posts before they can contact you by pm

You would be better sending a pm to them yourself and exchange personal email addresses
Title: Re: A Real Humdinger
Post by: aussienewberry on Monday 04 October 10 03:13 BST (UK)
thxs Carole , i'm new on this site and that is what i want is direct contact........i dont know the rules or how to pm or anything......but wanna obey the site rules
Title: Re: A Real Humdinger
Post by: Suzanne 41 on Thursday 23 August 12 09:24 BST (UK)
:)

Hi everyone. I wonder if anyone can help me with this humdinger. I have a Henry Newbury 1791 – 1849 married to a Martha Eckersley 1798 – they have the following children all born in Manchester:

John Eckersley Newbury 1820 (he was later Tried and Sentenced in Lancaster Quarter Sessions England UK for 7 years for stealing lead from a roof)
Henry Newbury 1826 is on the 1841 census with his twin sons and a lodger transcribed as Hickson who is connected to the neighbours where Mary Newbury the daughter is staying i.e the Cartwightes, the Hickson family live next door.
William Newbury 1826 as above with Henry and his father.

Which comes to Mary Newbury 1829
Martha 1834 and
Elizabeth 1836

Martha the mother, Elizabeth and Martha are all nowhere to be found on the 1841 census which leads me to believe they all died, as Henry is living with his sons and his daughter is living with his sister from Ireland married to a Cartwight.

All of the sons i.e. John Eckersley Newbury, Henry jnr and William his twin I have traced along with there marriages and children however I cannot find Mary b.1829 christened 1834. on any census?

Can anyone help?



Title: Re: A Real Humdinger
Post by: Suzanne 41 on Thursday 23 August 12 09:31 BST (UK)
I live in Australia and am a direct descendant of Henry and Martha Newbury through their eldest son, John Eckersley Newbury.   I would be interested in learning more about Henry's sister from Ireland who married Cartwight.

Do you know where Henry was born in Ireland and who his parents were?

Don

Title: Re: A Real Humdinger
Post by: Suzanne 41 on Tuesday 12 August 14 02:52 BST (UK)
My ancestor was John Eccersley Newbury, son of Henry and Martha - transported to Australia.
What you have posted concerning the sister of Henry is news to me. I have a copy of Henry's possible death certificate which states the information was supplied by Alice.   Is Alice the sister who married Cartwright?  What other information do you have concerning the Newburys in Ireland.
I knew Henry was born in Ireland (1841 census)and have researched the name Newbury/Newberry in Cookstown Co Tyrone but am unable to make any connections with Henry, my ancestor.
I live in Australia and am anxious to know if there are current descendants of Henry still living in the UK and if so how can I make contact.

Don Newbury


Title: Re: A Real Humdinger
Post by: Armi2350 on Thursday 01 March 18 06:21 GMT (UK)
There is a Brazier/ Newberry reunion for the descendants of John Eckersley Newberry if Manchester and John Brazier if Pavenham this coming lo g weekend. Armidale NSW...
Is it allowed to post details.
(NSW Australia)