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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Topic started by: 350zcar100 on Wednesday 21 October 09 12:27 BST (UK)
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I am requesting a lookup for Hedgcock, Bertram Charles, death and burial, probably in Ballarat, Victoria, as his wife Loreena Jane Hedgcock nee Datson died there in 1956. He is not listed in Vic Death Index up to 1985. He was born in Mildura, Victoria in 1896. He is a recipient of an MBE. Can anyone also please advise if there is a special site to find out why? He is also mentioned for 1915 to 1917 on the National Archives Website, but he is not on the Australian War Memorial Nominal or Embarkation Rolls as a serviceman.
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Electoral rolls
Bertram Charles Hedgcock
1919
postal official, Lime Ave, Mildura at same address:
Edwin Thomas Hedgcock, cabinet maker
Alfred Leslie Hedgcock, labourer
Charlotte Hedgcock, home duties
1924
civil servant,109 Lime Ave, Mildura
also at address Alfred Leslie Hedgcock,labourer, Charlotte Hedgcock, home duties, Doris Mary Hedgcock, home duties
1931
civil servant, Burgoyne St Kerang, with Lorenza (sic) Jane, home duties
1936
postal official, 23 Robinson St, Dandenong with Loreena Jane HD
1937
postal employee, 83 Pine Ave, Mildura with Loreena Jane HD
1942
postmaster, Glenfern Rd, Ferntree Gully with Loreena Jane HD
1949
postmaster, Postal Residence, Maffra with Loreena Jane HD
1954
postmaster, Morialta, Murray St East, Colac, with Loreena Jane HD
I only have access to rolls up to 1954
My guess is he got the MBE for services as a postmaster.
Judith
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beat me to it JudB ;)
The NAA site does not necessarily mean he was enlisted in WW1 could refer to any number of things
Jenn
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Sorry, Jenn, LOL :P
The Australian National Library's digitised newspapers have a death notice for his father in The Argus, 6 January 1921
http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/home
Interestingly I see a Bertram Hedgcock born Ealing UK abt 1895 on the 1901 UK census but the rest of the family is quite different - unusual name, though.
Googling produced a couple of mentions including one on Rootsweb - but perhaps that was you ozcar?
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On the National Archives site is a mention of Mr B C Hegdcock - honour and the contents date given is March 1969 - perhaps this is about the MBE? You could email them and ask for further information
You can also request a copy of the informatin of the file dated 1915-1917.
Judith
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Thank you both for such a prompt response and the great info you have provided. I am very appreciative of your voluntary help and hope I can assist someone in the same spirit. Thanks again
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I have looked at the Newspaper articles for Hedgcock from the above link, which is gratefully appreciated, and it seems that Mr B C Hedgcock was very involved in Community matters. This may be why he was awarded the MBE. He was elected as Treasurer of the Penshurst and District Bush Fire Brigade in 1940, and he presided over a meeting in July 1944 of the combined Progress Associations of the Dandenongs to consider a report on electrifying the Railway to Emerald. Mr B C Hedgcock was also re-elected as President of the combined associations.
I also note that the Death notice for his father asked Auckland papers to please copy. I thought that Bertram may have gone to NZ after his wife's death, but my NZ burial locator does not list him, nor does the NZ Death records on line. He is not in NSW up to 1978, nor SA to 1972 either.
What an interesting family.
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Hi
BERTRUM CHARLES HEDGCOCK was cremated at Ballarat Crematorium on 24/6/1987
Loc. RG G4R01
At the same exact location is
EVA IRENE MAY HEDGCOCK who was cremated 22/9/1993.
I will search further.
Sue
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he is recorded on:
www.itsanhonour.gov.au
Leanne
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HEDGCOCK Edwin Thos born London married Charlotte Young in 1895 in Victoria reg no 2028
Children born to this couple in Victoria
Bertram Charles Hedgcock born 1896 Mildura reg no 13583
Eric Edwin Hedgcock born 1898 Mildrua reg no 5113
Alfred Leslie Hedgcock born 1900 Mildura reg no 5106
Ethel May Hedgcock born 1906 Mildura reg no 12534
Jenn
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Thanks so much for your help. It looks like he may have married again. And yes, his MBE is a Community award.
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Hi Sue and 100zcar
Just an aside, Sue - are Ballarat burials on line - or perhaps you have access to them??
100zcar, do you want any further info on Bertram?
Judith
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Thanks so much Judith. All your research is much appreciated.
I am mostly interested in Bertram's wife Loreena Jane Datson and, as they married in Adelaide in 1926, I have not got their children, if any. Otherwise, you have all provided me with plenty of info for Bertram, unless you know if he did remarry??? (I have lots of Info on Loreena Jane's antecedents.)
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Hi 350zcar100,
A big welcome to RootsChat ;D
Lovely you have had some great help with this. The Its an Honour site was new to me - good find ennael, I have added it to our resources.
We are unable to discuss the living due to privacy and security issues. I checked SA and there are no births to this couple to 1828 which is the cutoff point for births in SA. If I had found anything I would have been happy to PM the details.
Cheers Kris :)
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A copy of her death certificate will list their children, this of course depeneds on the knowledge of the deceased informant, which in this case one could feel would be the husband.
You can purchase and dowload the death certificate on line from
Registry of BMD Victoria
https://online.justice.vic.gov.au/bdm/index-search?action=getHistIdxSearchCriteria
· Details on ALL Certificates for Victoria
· http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,373754.0.html
· http://www.jaunay.com/bdm.html
Jenn
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as his wife Loreena Jane Hedgcock nee Datson died there in 1956. OZCAR
Hedgecock, Loreena Jane was buried at Ballarat New Cemetery on 13/10/1956.
She was 56 and her occupation was wife.
Sue
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Thanks so much Sue. You have all been very helpful.
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These are all South Australian registrations
Loreena May DATSON born 7 Jan 1900, parents Edward Charles DATSON, Harriett MILLHOUSE at Angaston, reg - ANG 652/264
Siblings of Loreena: James Edward Hubert DATSON 14 Aug 1895 at Mt Gambier,
Myrtle Reynella DATSON13 Jun 1889 at Moonta Mines
Harriett Ann MILLHOUSE b 20 Sep 1858, to William MILLHOUSE, Jane RHODES at Harrogate nr Nairne
Edward 26 (father Hugh DATSON) and Harriett 25 (father William MILLHOUSE) were married at Registry Office Port Adelaide, 23 Jan 1884 138/231
Cheers, Judith
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Hi,
There is a burial for a HUGH DATSON at MOONTA Cemetery.
Date 20/3/1875 Aged 42. Loc. East 8 Gve 408.
He may or may not be of interest to you as there were certainly more than one man by he name.
You might like a browse here at the arrivals for HUGH DATSON's (both adult and child)
http://www.slsa.sa.gov.au/fh/passengerlists/BoundforSouthAustralia.htm
Look in the year 1847 and at the ships
ABOUKIR and DAVID MALCOLM
Sue
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Siblings of Loreena: James Edward Hubert DATSON 14 Aug 1895 at Mt Gambier,
Myrtle Reynella DATSON13 Jun 1889 at Moonta Mines JUDB
http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/home
A browse through the newspapers here, especially family noices section shows among other things the marriage of MYRTLE RYNELLA to FREDEICK GEORGE BOLLARD and death of a little child belonging to JAMES EDWARD HUBERT DATSON .
Sue
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Thanks Judith and Sue. Yes, I have all that Datson info as I live in Moonta. The family scattered from here and some went to NZ, Qld, WA, Victoria as well as South Africa. I have just been tying up loose ends, hence the Hedgcock query. That Hugh Datson was killed in a mining accident here, and I have the Coroner's report. What is interesting is that Edward Datson, Loreena's father abandoned his family and was never seen or heard of again, which doesn't fit with the community and family spirit of the rest of the clan. Therefore, we don't have his death date or location despite many in the family looking everywhere for him. A descendant from NZ is visiting me week after next to do more research here. But I expect he went west and changed his name like many others. I have not found trace of him here.
That branch however, is not my prime interest, ie they are not related to my husband, whereas Hugh's brother Richard Henry is, as he married into "the family". I have gotten caught up in the rest of them, as I have an interest in local mining history and am a member of the local National Trust. At least 4 of the 5 Datson boys were mining Captains who started out in Moonta, with their father Hugh. Richard Henry and John went to QLD, James to NZ, William was a Mine Agent and went to Dubbo NSW, and a nephew William to South Africa. Poor Hugh did not make it.
If anyone wants anything researched here I am happy to assist.
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Bertram was my grandfather. I've only recently started looking at the DATSON side of the family so I know very little except the basic facts, but happy to share what I do know.
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Andy
I am very new to Rootschat but it seems I can send a private message to you via Personal Messages. I will attempt that as the info to discuss is in regard to some living members of the family.
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May I just suggest that Andy needs to post on this thread a couple more times though before he'll be able to send you a PM back though, 350zcar100 .
Then you should both be able to exchange personal messages freely.
Hope that helps.
Dee :)
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Thanks Dee for that advice. I did not realise that it had to be on a particular thread.
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You're right, it doesn't..... sorry, I didn't mean to confuse the situation. :)
I just thought that it would probabl y be the place that Andy would find easiest to post first up.
The only threads that can't be used to get your first 3 posts are the Totally off Topic threads.
Dee :)
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Dee
Just noticed that you have our Linnells from Northamptonshire on your research list. I have researched the Australian branch of the family (spelt Lennell here) who came from Linnell in Leighton Bromswold extensively and organised a family gathering in 1997 in Moonta. My Motherinlaw is a Lennll.
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My Linnells were in Raunds and Finedon, 350zcar100. My ggg-grandmother was a Linnell from Finedon.
Dee :)
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Deeiluka
Our Linnells are descended from Edward Linnell/Lennell born 1773, Old Weston, Huntingdonshire (Wife Sarah Coe) Died 1842, Leighton Bromswold. Edwards parents were Richard Linnell and Hannah ?. Edward Junior born 1818 married 16 Oct 1843, Sussanah Phillips, born Raunds Nov 1826, and they came out to Australia on La Belle Alliance in 1847.
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350zcar100,
Who knows....maybe somewhere there's a link. I can trace the Linnells of Finedon back to the late 1600s to a William Linnell who had a number of children in Finedon.
He had a son Richard Linnell in 1724.
Richard married Elizabeth Brawston in 1753.
Among their children were two sons, William and Richard, born 1754 and 1756 respectively.
One of those two is the father of my ggg-grandmother Mary Linnell. But which I don't know, as they both had daughters they named Mary within 12 months of each other. ::)
By the 1850s all but one of the Linnells had left Finedon for other places.
Dee :)