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Title: 7 Bridgegate,Glasgow
Post by: marysma on Saturday 07 November 09 15:06 GMT (UK)
Hi,

    I have just found my g,aunts marriage certificate.

Where married it has 7 Bridgegate,Glasgow,Aug 1920.

Does anyone know what this building was please.I am presuming it was a registry office.

Thanks in advance.
MM
Title: Re: 7 Bridgegate,Glasgow
Post by: Lodger on Saturday 07 November 09 15:41 GMT (UK)
More than likely it would have been the bride's home. There were no Registry Offices before about 1948 or so.

It was very common to be married at home, usually on a Saturday evening when everyone had finished work, then next day the married couple would make a special visit to the church to be "kirked".  This would only apply to Presbyterians, Catholics were only ever married in the church or, if a mixed marriage, sometimes the vestry.

Lodger.
Title: Re: 7 Bridgegate,Glasgow
Post by: Skoosh on Saturday 07 November 09 17:04 GMT (UK)
Mm,  there was a Free Church of Scotland in the Briggait (as we would call it) don't know the number, very short street, the manse was in St'Vincent Street........Skoosh.
Title: Re: 7 Bridgegate,Glasgow
Post by: KirstyG on Saturday 07 November 09 17:29 GMT (UK)
Number 7 may be in the block on the corner of Bridgegate and Saltmarket above the Old Ship Bank. It is difficult to tell from Google streetview, but the building is old enough - one of the few remaining old ones.

Kirsty
Title: Re: 7 Bridgegate,Glasgow
Post by: marysma on Saturday 07 November 09 17:41 GMT (UK)
Hi Skoosh & Lodger,

                                  thanks for the two interesting replies.

I have a copy of my g,aunts marriage certificate from SP.On the cert it has date and place(as above)then it says by declaration in the presence of Archibald Savage-Chauffeur and Robert Rophet?-Chauffeur. and Warrent of Sherriff Substitute of Lanarkshire.

G,aunt Mabel married a Marine Engineer whose residence is given as S.S Alineda(sp)of Boston that was docked in Rothesay,Clydebank.

Forgot to say that Mabel was born in Cardiff to Scottish parents,but her parents were from Banff.

MM

Title: Re: 7 Bridgegate,Glasgow
Post by: marysma on Saturday 07 November 09 17:43 GMT (UK)

 Thanks Kirsty,I'll have a look.

MM
Title: Re: 7 Bridgegate,Glasgow
Post by: weesmudge on Saturday 07 November 09 18:22 GMT (UK)
will have a look next time im in that area for you
Title: Re: 7 Bridgegate,Glasgow
Post by: marysma on Saturday 07 November 09 19:14 GMT (UK)
 

  Cheers Weesmudge.


 MM
Title: Re: 7 Bridgegate,Glasgow
Post by: MonicaL on Saturday 07 November 09 22:47 GMT (UK)
Hi MM

With the reference on the entry for the marriage being by Warrant of Sherriff Substitute, I wonder if it was a solicitor's office. There is this 1917 reference for example that shows a Writer (solicitor) at that address www.gazettes-online.co.uk/issues/30091/pages/5127/page.pdf

Monica
Title: Re: 7 Bridgegate,Glasgow
Post by: marysma on Sunday 08 November 09 15:35 GMT (UK)
Hi Monica,

                how on earth did you find that!!!Well done.

If they married in a solicitor's office do you think it could be something to do with him being an American sailor--special licence?.

Regards,
MM
Title: Re: 7 Bridgegate,Glasgow
Post by: MonicaL on Sunday 08 November 09 16:28 GMT (UK)
Have a look at this link here on RC on another post re Warrant of Sheriff  www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,336469.0.html for background and further info.

Monica  :)
Title: Re: 7 Bridgegate,Glasgow
Post by: Sandgrounder1 on Sunday 08 November 09 19:07 GMT (UK)
Hello

My ancestors lived at no. 147 Bridgegate and I recently found an old photo of it.

Try this link:

http://www.scran.ac.uk/database/record.php?usi=000-000-516-738-C

Sandgrounder
Title: Re: 7 Bridgegate,Glasgow
Post by: harrywrag on Monday 09 November 09 15:22 GMT (UK)
7 bridgegate was a house according to the valuation rolls for 1913/14 go to www.theglasgowstory.com and click on valuation rolls then enter brigegate in bottom line that will bring the rolls up click firs roll that has no seven in it ,hope this is of help   cheers  harrywrag
Title: Re: 7 Bridgegate,Glasgow
Post by: marysma on Monday 09 November 09 20:06 GMT (UK)
Hello all,

               thanks for all your great replies--fantastic!

Monica--re Warrant of Sherriff Substitute posts cleared a few things up for me as it also has info on irregular marriages and I have a few of them in my family.

Sandgrounder1-thanks for link-great photo.

harrywrag-thanks for that link,I see that a writer lived at that number as Monica posted.

A massive bonus for me was typing in Park Drive South and finding my auntx3 Ann Souter listed as proprietor of no 70.It also (I think)gives her current address which is Auchenhalrig(please somebody correct me if i'm wrong).

Thanks again Rootschatters :)

MM

Title: Re: 7 Bridgegate,Glasgow
Post by: harrywrag on Tuesday 10 November 09 14:44 GMT (UK)
hi, glad it was of help to you plus the added bonus of your (aunt x 3) just one thing its no. 79 for your aunt( 4th sheet ) ann souter as proprieter auchenalrig kilmacolm renfrewshire.  no. 70 ( 5th sheet) prop eliz. henderson i had to look a few times its def. no. 79 for your aunt ann souter (4th sheet all odd nos. ) thats great it was of help to you
                                                      cheers
                                                             harrywrag  ( allan )
Title: Re: 7 Bridgegate,Glasgow
Post by: marysma on Tuesday 10 November 09 15:42 GMT (UK)


    Cheers Harry.

 Auchalrig Kilmacolm Renfrewshire--what a mouthful!!!. Is there anything about this place on the board.

MM










Title: Re: 7 Bridgegate,Glasgow
Post by: KirstyG on Tuesday 10 November 09 16:11 GMT (UK)
Could it now be known as Auchenalrig?

There is a property of that name on Barclaven Road in Kilmacolm PA13 4QD. All the properties there seem to have names rather than numbers.

Kirsty
Title: Re: 7 Bridgegate,Glasgow
Post by: marysma on Tuesday 10 November 09 16:22 GMT (UK)

Oop's KirstyG----forgot to put the "en"  in  :).

I'll have a look at that address later.

Thanks,
MM
Title: Re: 7 Bridgegate,Glasgow
Post by: harrywrag on Wednesday 11 November 09 14:30 GMT (UK)
kilmacolm i belive is a well to do area this is probly why the houses are refered to as names rather than numbers
Title: Re: 7 Bridgegate,Glasgow
Post by: marysma on Wednesday 11 November 09 18:57 GMT (UK)


              I sent an e-mail to the Kilmacolm Civic trust to enquire about the address.

I have recieved an answer and they would like more information from me ,not sure what to reply .All I know is that in the 1901 Census  Ann was living in Park Drive South.When they moved to Kilmacolm is anybodys guess(unless rootschatters know better  of course. ;D 

Regards,
MM
Title: Re: 7 Bridgegate,Glasgow
Post by: marysma on Friday 13 November 09 17:07 GMT (UK)
Hello all,

               I've had a reply from a very helpful guy named John Hamilton who works at the Kilmacolm Trust.

Whilst looking at OS plans he has found a house named Auchinhalrig at the top of Barclaven Rd.He has checked the name in the Royal Mail postcode and the spelling is given as above.

Very grateful to him and everyone who helped.

MM
Title: Re: 7 Bridgegate,Glasgow
Post by: marysma on Saturday 14 November 09 11:51 GMT (UK)

  Forgot to say that Kirstyg had the correct address at the start.

Thanks Kirsty.
MM
Title: Re: 7 Bridgegate,Glasgow
Post by: Beamish Boy on Tuesday 14 August 18 21:51 BST (UK)
According to the Kelly's / Post Office directories for Glasgow for the first part of the 20th Century, and which can be consulted in the Mitchell Library, Glasgow, 7 Bridgegate was occupied by Andrew Galloway, solicitor (later Writer). My grandmother's marriage was witnessed there in 1919.  It is an "irregular" marriage, in effect a civil marriage before Registry Offices were recognised for solemnizing marriages in 1935.  The two parties declared in front of two witnesses (of their choosing) that they are husband and wife; this required a Sheriff's Warrant (which in my grandmother's case was obtained earlier on the same day from the Sheriff Substitute of Lanarkshire on 4th October 1919.  Hope this helps.
Title: Re: 7 Bridgegate,Glasgow
Post by: Forfarian on Monday 10 September 18 14:54 BST (UK)
Auchenhalrig or Auchinhalrig is a hamlet not far from Fochabers in the parish of Bellie in Moray.
See http://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/NJ3761

I imagine that the house in Kilmacolm is named after this, as there doesn't seem to be another place with a similar name elsewhere.

Matheson's The Place Names of Elginshire says, "Here we have a Celtic word as a prefix to a Norse word - Achadh, a field, na, of and halr, a slope - the field of the hillside slope. The Danish Ryg, a ridge of land, forms the appendix".

I have to question that interpretation, however, because Auchenhalrig is in the middle of a flat area, with nothing remotely resembling a hill slope or ridge close by.