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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Worcestershire => Topic started by: appl3jack on Wednesday 11 November 09 12:26 GMT (UK)
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Hi,
I have been searching for my ggrandfather on the 1901 census. Joseph Henry Whitney b1897 Dudley. It seems that the Whitney's from Dudley are missing from almost all the census', i do have a marriage for him in Manchester in 1921 to Clara Briggs...could it be that the surname is maybe spelt differently? if so i have tried a couple of variations that gets me nowwhere!!
Thanks
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got his Dad's name from the Marriage Cert ?
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This chap then ?
1901 - Births Jun 1897
Whitney Joseph Henry Dudley vol 6c page 118
You might have to get that Cert to verify this possible ... seems a good candidate as the other birth in the 1896 - 1900 period was the Reginald also in the census ... interestingly also using middle name, as registered Albert Reginald ... and also George aged 6, was registered Cornelius George ...
1901 - RG13; Piece: 2744; Folio: 33; Page: 23 - Dudley
9 Castle View (4 rooms)
all state born Dudley
Cornelius R Whitney 28 Head Tailors Asst
Norah Whitney 27 Wife
George Whitney 6 son
Harry Whitney 3 son
Reginald Whitney 1 son
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If it is the right chap, here's his parents marriage:-
Marriages Jun 1893
Brassington Esther Norah E Dudley v6c p36
Danks William John C Dudley 6c 36
Weston Clara Ann Dudley 6c 36
Whitney Cornelius Robert Dudley v6c p36
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Births Jun 1872
WHITNEY Cornelius Robert Dudley 6c 160
another one who doesnt want to be seen in 1881/91 - :D
will check if he's using Robert ......
might also be he's under a stepfathers name ....
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If this is his mother ...
Marriages Jun 1878
DAVIS Hagar Dudley v6c p23
LONG Edward Dudley 6c 23
SOUTHALL Henry Dudley v6c 23
WHITNEY Elizabeth Dudley 6c p23
she must have married Henry Southall, and on the 1881 census they have a son-in-law (aka stepson) Cornelius ...
1881 - RG11/2880; Folio: 35; Page: 2 - Dudley
8 Brewery Street
Henry Southall 48 Head Gen Lab Iron Works Staffs, Litchfield
Elizabeth Southall 39 Wife Staffs Tipton
Cornelius ~ Southall 8 son in law Dudley
Beattie F. Southall 6 dau in law do
Eliza H.M. Southall 11 days dau do
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Hi,
thanks for your help. Yes Cornelius Robert Whitney b1872 was Joseph dad who married Esther Norah Brassington. You have in fact hepled me a great deal now, as i can use their middle names for others to find on census'. I had in fact found Cornelius & his wife on the 1901 census on the assumption they were Josephs parents...Harry age 3 then is i pressume Joseph Henry, his brothers Cornelius George & Albert reginald.
Thanks again
appl3jack
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Hi,
i think we must of both sent messages at the same time!!
I did have a marriage for Elizabeth in Dudley in 1878 but i never delved in there wish i would have done now!! would have saved you from doin all the work thanks ;)
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No problem - an interesting one :)
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Hi,
I recently stumbled upon this thread about the Whitney's of Dudley/Manchester. Cornelius and Esther are my great great grandparents and there son Albert Reginald is my great grandad.
Any information you have or want to share would be great. I only signed up to this site as I came across this thread!
Hope to hear from you soon.
Wayne
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Hi Wayne,
Thanks for getting in touch. I have only been researching our Whitney's really in the last couple of months, so im very glad to hear there is also someone else doing the same. My grandad was Albert Reginald Whitney b1930 in Manchester, his parents Joseph H Whitney b1897 Dudley (Cornelius's son) & Clara Briggs. My grandad married Edith Geliher (still living) & they had 3 children, Christine (my mum), David & Paul. Albert Reginald Whitney died in 1968, yet my gran kept in touch with most of my grandad's brothers & sisters.
I will forward you my email address privately, as it would be great to keep in touch & to share what information we have.
Regards Tracie
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Hi,
Esther Nora Emma Brassington wife of Cornelious Whitney was my grandfather's sister. Please get in touch.
Diane
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hi,i found this site more or less by accident.dont know if following helps. i am tracing my mums family tree.she was a whitney.her dad was albert whitney born dudley 1899.his parents were cornelius robert whitney and easter norma emma
brassington.address 7 castle view dudley.albert married winifred flanagan and they had 8 kids,4 boys 4 girls,one of whom was my mum......
at some point albert moving to gorton manchester certainly before he met my
gran.albert died in 1965.....
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As stated Esther Nora Brassington was my grandfather's sister.
Albert and my mum were first cousins making your mum and me second cousins. My email is (*) if you would like to contact me. Put the name Whitney family in the subject box to ensure that I pick it up.
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Hi, BlueMike,
I believe your my mum's cousin, Maureen Whitney (Albert Reginald's b. 1924 daughter).
I have alot of information on the Whitney's. Albert Reginald b. 1899 was my great grandad and his son, Albert Reginald b. 1924 was my grandad, If you want to get in touch feel free to email me on (*)
Hope to hear from you soon,
Wayne
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Hi Tracie, off topic I know but I stumbled on this thread and believe that I am your mums cousin. My dads sister Edith had a daughter called Christine and if you spot this message it would be great to hear from you.
Chris Geliher
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Hi Chris,
My great grandad, Albert Reginald Whitney had a sister Edith born Gorton, Manchester around 1901. Is this the Edith were both on about? What information do you have on Edith, her brothers, mother, father etc?
Hope to hear from you soon.
Wayne Haughton.
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Hi Wayne, Sorry I didn't make it very clear, I am related to Tracie on her maternal side. Her mother is my cousin and her gran was my aunt Edith Geliher. I lost touch with all my Dads family after he died and stumbled on Tracie while searching for Geliher on this site. Sorry about that.
Chris Geliher
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This person is my grandfather. I'm in Canada. My mother is Joyce. Daughter of Clara and Joseph.
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Hi. I still want to follow yp with anyone on the thread about Joseph Henry Whitney and Clara Briggs. They are my grandparents and I'm looking for more information about them.
Anything that can be said to help.
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Hi my name is Deborah Whitney my grandparents were Joseph henry Whitney and Clara Briggs there eldist son Joseph henry Whitney is my father I also have a older sister Michelle
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Hi my name is Deborah Whitney my father Joseph henry Whitney was Albert's older brother
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Hello Wayne my name is Deborah Whitney my parents are Joseph and Ruth I used to work with your sister Christine at slack and cox beer factory of Hyde road
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Hi my name is Deborah Whitney Cornelius and emmsa are my great grandparents there son Joseph henry was my grandfather there eldest son Joseph henry was my father who was married to Ruth Robertson he died on august 9th 1986
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Hi I'm Deborah Whitney Joseph henry Whitney is also my grandfather his eldest son Joseph henry Whitney is my father my father died 9th august 1986
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Hi my name is Deborah Whitney Joseph henry Whitney and Clara Briggs are my grandparents.I am the youngest daughter of there eldest son Joseph henry Whitney.Our grandfather Joseph henry died in 1970 in the Manchester royal infirmary his wife Clara died in 1983 in chorlton on Medlock.
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Hi my name is Deborah Joseph Henry Whitney and Clara Briggs were my Grandparents. My father Joseph Henry Whitney was there eldest son.
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Hi my name is Deborah your grandparents Joseph and Clara are my grandparents I am the daughter of there eldest son named after his father. And the spelling of there surname is Whitney
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Hi my name is Deborah Whitney my father Joseph is your mum Joyce's older brother. He also has two other sisters living in Canada Hilda and Eleanor
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Happy new year wayne
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No that is the correct sir name my father Joseph henry was there eldest son. He was married to my mother Ruth Robertson, he died in the Royal Infirmary Manchester in 1986.My name is Deborah and my sister is Michelle,hope this helps.