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Title: 1871 census Look Up for Poplar Please
Post by: coursey on Thursday 10 March 05 22:22 GMT (UK)
I am looking for Theophilus Minkey b abt 1868
Only information I have is 1891 census. It shows birth place as Poplar and age looks like 23. At this time living in Matthews household.
Title: Re: 1871 census Look Up for Poplar Please
Post by: Darren on Friday 11 March 05 07:43 GMT (UK)
Just a thought, you need to read between the lines for this one.......

1st a Marriage to Elizabeth Matthews(ties in with 1891 Census)

Surname    First name(s)        District    Vol    Page 
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Marriages Sep 1887
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Matthews    Elizabeth        Mile End    1c   757    
MINKEY    Theophilus         Mile End    1c   757    
Walker    Robert         Mile End    1c   757    
WEBB    Esther Rebecca         Mile End    1c   757

2nd Maybe she struggles with Child Birth?

Surname    First name(s)    Age    District    Vol    Page 
------------------------------------------------------------------------

Deaths Mar 1888
------------------------------------------------------------------------

MINKEY    Theophilus    0    Poplar    1c   464    


3rd Still struggles with Child Birth?

Births Jun 1890
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Minkey    Caroline E*zabeth         Poplar    1c   672

4th Complications after Child Birth? I assume a Death cert. would confirm.

Deaths Jun 1890
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Minkey    Elizabeth    20    Whitechapel    1c   234

This would tie in the Minkey and Matthews families and account for Theophilus being a Widow in 1891.

Any thoughts?

Darren
Title: Re: 1871 census Look Up for Poplar Please
Post by: coursey on Friday 11 March 05 08:08 GMT (UK)
Thanks Darren.
Yes that's them.  I had found their marriage also from free BDM.
I have had some communication with another Matthews connection and they also believe that Elizabeth died in child birth.
I would really like to find parents of Theophilus Minkey.
There were Minkeys in Poplar 1881 but he doesn't appear
Unusal name but seems no one researching it.
 You are right I really do need the marriage certificate.  Not sure how I go about getting one , who to get it through etc. I'm in New Zealand.
Title: Re: 1871 census Look Up for Poplar Please
Post by: Darren on Friday 11 March 05 08:18 GMT (UK)
You can order the Certificates online I'll just go and find the link
Title: Re: 1871 census Look Up for Poplar Please
Post by: Darren on Friday 11 March 05 08:19 GMT (UK)
http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/

You can use the info from Free BMD to make this very simple
Title: Re: 1871 census Look Up for Poplar Please
Post by: Darren on Friday 11 March 05 08:30 GMT (UK)
There's only 12 Minkey's in the 1881 Census 2 older people in Cornwall and the rest could possibly all belong to the same family and in theory they could all belong to the same family, if that's the case then they could well be Theophilus' family.
Title: Re: 1871 census Look Up for Poplar Please
Post by: coursey on Friday 11 March 05 09:57 GMT (UK)
Thanks Darren.
I guess you are looking at the Minkey family with Lavinia as the Head. fairly large family.  I'm also picking it's probably his family because if I remember correctly without looking for it again. The children appear to have been born Poplar.
I was wanting to get back beyond 1881 census in the hope of finding Theophilus with the family.
Thanks for the advice re ordering certificates.
Thanks again for all you help.  This site is great!
Title: Re: 1871 census Look Up for Poplar Please
Post by: Darren on Friday 11 March 05 10:02 GMT (UK)
I couldn't find Theophilus in 1871 or Lavinia's Family but that could be to do with Frederick Minkey who's on the HMS Duke of Wellington as a Petty Officer in 1881, at a guess Lavinia's Husband, the family may well be fairly well travelled.
Title: Re: 1871 census Look Up for Poplar Please
Post by: Darren on Friday 11 March 05 10:12 GMT (UK)
Just in case you haven't got this......

1901 Census - 23 Flint Street, Bromley

Theophilus Minkey aged 33 Widow Occupation - Shipyard Labourer
(Still living with the Matthews Family
Title: Re: 1871 census Look Up for Poplar Please
Post by: moscan on Friday 11 March 05 10:16 GMT (UK)
You would think with such an unusual name it would be easy to get info on this family,

I found this in the 1901 the census was taken in Bromley  London

Theophilus Minky aged  65 born in Germany Head  

Louinia Minky aged 62  born in Poplar, London,  Wife

Emily Minky aged 19  born in Poplar, London,  Daughter    

and I think this is your chap in 1901 again census taken in Bromley  London

Theophillis Minkey aged 33  born in Poplar, London, England  

according to the image, he is still a widower and living in 126 Flint Street, and he is a Shipyard Labourer

Another Minkey Entry for the 1901 and again in Bromley

William Minkey aged 24  born in Poplar, London, Head  

Charlotte Minkey aged 24 born in  Poplar, London,  Wife    


1881 Poplar

Lavinia Minkey born abt 1840 in Poplar, Middlesex, Wife (Head)

Lavinia Minkey born abt 1864 in Poplar, Middlesex, Daughter  

Caroline Minkey born abt 1871 in Poplar, Middlesex,  Daughter

Ada Minkey born abt 1872  in Poplar, Middlesex,  Daughter  

Phoebe Minkey born abt 1874 in Poplar, Middlesex, Daughter

William Minkey born abt 1877  in Poplar, Middlesex,  Son      
  
Frederick Minkey born abt 1879 in  Poplar, Middlesex, Son    
    
Gertrude Osborne born abt 1881 in Poplar, Middlesex,  (no note as to relationship with family)


I also found this Marriage...  
 
MINKEY, Robert Theophilus
Quarter  End  September  1907 in Poplar  London Middlesex
Volume Number 1c
Page Number 888  

with a name like that he has to be connected :D

Will keep an eye out for any other connections


Best Wishes

Mo
 


Title: Re: 1871 census Look Up for Poplar Please
Post by: Darren on Friday 11 March 05 10:24 GMT (UK)
1901 Census

Source - RG13/348
Registration district - Poplar
Sub-registration district - Bromley
Folio - 109
Page - 18

William Minkey aged 24 Head Born Poplar
Charlotte Minkey aged 24 Wife Born Poplar

Must be Lavinia's Son and living at 20 Flint Street, just up the road from Theophilus, surely too much of a coincidence!

Darren
Title: Re: 1871 census Look Up for Poplar Please
Post by: Darren on Friday 11 March 05 10:28 GMT (UK)
Theophilus living at House Number 23(126 is the schedule No.)

William is a Cofectioners Laborer.
Title: Re: 1871 census Look Up for Poplar Please
Post by: coursey on Friday 11 March 05 10:40 GMT (UK)
This has got to be them.
Does 1901 census give an occupation for Theophilus senior?
My Grandmother Maria Matthews used to talk about a Charlotte but Icould never match it to any of her immediate family.
Well done I think we've cracked it!
Title: Re: 1871 census Look Up for Poplar Please
Post by: Darren on Friday 11 March 05 10:46 GMT (UK)
He's a shipyard Labourer, still trying to find Lavinia in 1901. :)
Title: Re: 1871 census Look Up for Poplar Please
Post by: Darren on Friday 11 March 05 11:10 GMT (UK)
Have you tried

 http://www.GenesReunited.co.uk

There's an Annie Minkey there born 1917 in Poplar, might be worth a try.

Good luck, please let me know if you get to the bottom of/prove who's who.

Happy hunting

Darren
Title: Re: 1871 census Look Up for Poplar Please
Post by: blackie on Wednesday 03 May 06 19:02 BST (UK)
Just seen all messages about Theophilus Minkey. My father knew Theophilus Minkey senior when he was a very old man living in Poplar. He was a tailor and lived to nearly 100. He lived in old age with 2 daughters - unmarried I think.  Unfortunately I know nothing about next generation.
Title: Re: 1871 census Look Up for Poplar Please
Post by: TMFAM on Tuesday 19 May 20 16:38 BST (UK)
This is a long shot considering how old this post is! If OP sees it, please get in contact, I think I will be able to help you.