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Title: cornelious cadle. engineer and general mill furnisher
Post by: stephen7 on Tuesday 17 November 09 19:35 GMT (UK)
hi all,
with regards to the above rellie, mr. cadle, who as described had an engineering firm in wellington quay, dublin.
 i have discovered that, around 1888,  he may have patented a contraption called the " double perfection" some kind of turbine, i think and something else called the "wiley oil cabinet".
 does anyone know where i can confirm, or refute these, and if modern types of these inventions are still in use?
 i know his sons george and frederick were also engineers/inventors, also, in fact, i believe george patented the seals one used to get around jam jar lids etc. though he emigrated to america and carried on his work there.
any info/help on this would be gratefully received
steve
Title: Re: cornelious cadle. engineer and general mill furnisher
Post by: shanew147 on Tuesday 17 November 09 19:44 GMT (UK)
there's a mention of the Cadle business and the two devices in this online book scan :

 "The Industries of Dublin. Historical, statistical, biographical. An account of the leading business men, commercial interests, wealth and growth"

see : http://www.archive.org/stream/industriesofdubl00lond/industriesofdubl00lond_djvu.txt

extract : "Conelius Cadle, Engineer and General Mill Furnisher, 39, Wellington Quay...... The firm is sole adjacent for William Furness & Co., Saw Mill Engineers, of Liverpool, and the connection it has formed for this house is of no inconsiderable nature. A prominent specialty is made of the "Turbine wheel," patented in iSSS[??] under the style of the "Double perfection." It may also be mentioned that Mr. Cadle manufactures the "Wiley Oil Cabinet," a handy contrivance for the storage of oil, an arrangement which will be found of beneficial use to engineers, etc., who require different kinds of oil for lubricating machinery..... "


Shane
Title: Re: cornelious cadle. engineer and general mill furnisher
Post by: stephen7 on Tuesday 17 November 09 20:40 GMT (UK)
thanks shane,
that confirms what i was told, so some family stories are not all myth, wonder if his devices were a success?
steve
Title: Re: cornelious cadle. engineer and general mill furnisher
Post by: shanew147 on Tuesday 17 November 09 21:22 GMT (UK)
I have not found anything on the devices mentioned but I suspect that the "double perfection turbine" is either some improvement to a water wheel - similar to a Pelton style wheel with double buckets, or possibly some improvement to the recently invented (Parsons 1884) steam turbine, such as the addition of the static blades.

in Thom's 1914 he is listed at :

  48 Lower Gardiner street , Cornelius Cadle, engineer and general millwright

Cornelius is listed in Thom's of 1904, 1894 & 1884 as :

  39 Wellington quay, Cornelius Cadle, engineer & general mill furnisher

In 1877 there is a Mr. Cornelious Cadle without a listed trade at 35 Montpelier Hill


Shane
Title: Re: cornelious cadle. engineer and general mill furnisher
Post by: stephen7 on Tuesday 17 November 09 22:32 GMT (UK)
shane,
thanks for the extra info, i have his address in 1904 and 1914, the 1877 could well be him, his eldest son was born in 1875 in dublin, so was already there at the time, though i have no idea when he actually moved to dublin.
steve
Title: Re: cornelious cadle. engineer and general mill furnisher
Post by: Quaxer on Wednesday 18 November 09 01:52 GMT (UK)
Stephen 7

In an advert. on Page 1 of the Irish Times for 6th October 1894 reference is made to a C.Cadle at No.39 Wellington Quay.
For 26th April 1876 the I.T. shows the death of Cornelius John (son of Cornelius and Anne Caddle) at No.35 Montpelier Hill and on 21st October 1876 the birth of a child to Cornelius Caddle there.
Slaters 1894 shows C.C. at 39 Wellington Quaywith a residence at No.24 Windsor Road Rathmines. The I.T. shows on 18th March 1890 the death  of Albert Ernest son of Cornelius & Anne Cadle(sic) at No.24

Regards       Quaxer
Title: Re: cornelious cadle. engineer and general mill furnisher
Post by: stephen7 on Thursday 19 November 09 16:51 GMT (UK)
QUAXER,
 thanks for that, do you know where i could get copies of the IT showing this info?
cheers
steve
Title: Re: cornelious cadle. engineer and general mill furnisher
Post by: shanew147 on Thursday 19 November 09 16:55 GMT (UK)
the Irish Times archive is available online (for a fee) at : http://www.irishtimes.com/search/archive.html

It's also available on microfilm & binders (depending on the years) in the National Library in Dublin, and other libraries around the country. I know the films of the Times in the library here in Dublin were made by the British Library - so maybe copies of these are available elsewhere ?
 

Shane
Title: Re: cornelious cadle. engineer and general mill furnisher
Post by: Brendan Joseph on Thursday 19 November 09 17:18 GMT (UK)
There are a good few Cadle obits in the newspaper archives, just checked your tree, Eileen Cadle married William S Agar aged 93 died 2000, another for a Joan 1956. PM me with your email and I will send you a few on.

Brendan
Title: Re: cornelious cadle. engineer and general mill furnisher
Post by: stephen7 on Thursday 19 November 09 17:38 GMT (UK)
shanew,
 thanks for that link, have added it to my favourites and will check it out when i have more time.

brendan, have pm'd you my e-mail
thanks
Title: Re: cornelious cadle. engineer and general mill furnisher
Post by: Farrarc on Saturday 03 March 18 21:28 GMT (UK)
Hi!

Do any of you know if this C Cadle was an agent for, or sold Amanco stationary engines? I have such an engine, which I believe was bought new in 1908, with a badge on it which states ‘C Cadle, Engineer, Dublin’
Title: Re: cornelious cadle. engineer and general mill furnisher
Post by: hallmark on Saturday 03 March 18 21:49 GMT (UK)
In Memory | of | CORNELIUS CADLE | died 23rd Feby. 1927, aged 80 | And of his
wife | ANNE | died 26th March 1916, aged 69 | Also their children | CORNELIUS
JOHN | died 24th April 1876, aged 1. | Interred in St. Pauls | ALBERT ERNEST |
died 17th March 1890, aged 1. | ANNE | died 29th July 1904, aged 24 | Also
their Daughter-in-law | SUSAN | beloved wife of FREDERICK CADLE | died 7th
Dec. 1943, aged 66 years | Also | FREDERICK CADLE | husband of the above SUSAN
| died 22nd August 1963 | in his 89th year


http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/dublin/photos/tombstones/mt-jerome-54/target88.html
Title: Re: cornelious cadle. engineer and general mill furnisher
Post by: hallmark on Saturday 03 March 18 21:52 GMT (UK)

The Cadle Duplex Jet Water Wheel.
By C Cadle

39 Wellington Quay Dublin.: C Cadle, 1891. An extremily rare pamphlet on the Cadle water wheel, diagrams and help on how to set up and use it, measure water coming through etc, A must for any settler or pioneer to remote spots. 28pp.. First Edition. Wraps. Very Good. Illus. by illustrated. 8vo - over 7¾ - 9¾" tall.


https://www.biblio.com/bookstore/vanessa-parker-rare-books-mulranny-co-mayo/science-mathamatics-engineering/3671458
Title: Re: cornelious cadle. engineer and general mill furnisher
Post by: stephen7 on Sunday 04 March 18 14:05 GMT (UK)
hallmark,
 thank you for both of those links, unfortunately the book is slightly out of my price range atm but now i know that it exists, i will keep my eyes open for  it elsewhere. also the pic of his grave, i am extremely grateful.
farrac,
 i do know that he was The sole adjacent for William Furness & Co., Saw Mill Engineers, of Liverpool. and may well have been an agent for other firms also, though i haven't been able to confirm that yet.
Title: Re: cornelious cadle. engineer and general mill furnisher
Post by: Farrarc on Monday 05 March 18 00:54 GMT (UK)
Thank you for your reply. The engine I have was sold new in 1910. They were generally known as Amanco engines in Ireland, although their more official name was The Associated Manufacturers Company. If I do find out any more I will post it here. Kind regards