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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Roxburghshire => Topic started by: Cathiemay on Monday 23 November 09 20:50 GMT (UK)
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I am trying to locate descendants of my mothers uncle Thomas Storie. He was born at Jedburgh. a son of Thomas Storie 1818 & Helen Telfer. & farmed at Calaburn Farm Wilton.Hawick. The family moved to Hawick after their father died. The names of his family were. Thomas 1879 who married Isabella Graham & had a son Thomas 1901. They lived at Todlaw New Cavers. Elizabeth 1881. Helen 1883. George 1885. John 1887, who was a baker in Hawick & also in WW1. I think he married Mary Gibson, and was living in Selkirk around 1919,working in a woolen mill. I seem to be unable to trace any descendants of my Storie relations. I have traced back to a Thomas Storie 1792 & Isabella Deans. & his father Thomas Storie (spelt Storry). 1750 & Margaret Brunton. If anyone can give me any information I would be so grateful.
Cathiemay.
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The IGI shows 3 of the children of Thomas Storie and Helen Telfer and they are extracted births......
Thomas born Feb 14 1842 Jedburgh
George born Mar 17 1847 Jedburgh
Alexander born Jun 21 1853 Jedburgh
This is just in case you do not have this info.
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Hi
Thank you very much for taking the time to reply. Alexander the son of Thomas Storie & Helen Telfer was my grandfather, his brother George never married. and I would love to know what happened to his brother Thomas's family. Nobody seems to know. they seem to have vanished as has most of the descendants of my Storie relations. I keep hoping to find them one day.
Cathiemay.
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Hi Cathiemay,
Have you any information about Thomas b.1842 at all? I am assuming that from the title of the topic, that he married a Jane Hendry. Do you have a date and a place for that? That may help us track him down on census records.
I found him in the 1861 census here - http://www.maxwellancestry.com/census/61transcript.aspx?houseid=79201029
But searching on Scotland's People I couldn't find a Thomas of the correct age in the 1871 Census in the Roxburghshire area, so I am guessing that he had either moved away from the area, or had passed away by that time.
Let me know what other info you have on Thomas regards dates and places after 1861 and we can see what we can dig up for you! :)
Cheers,
Clare
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Hi Clare,
Thank you for you reply. Thomas 1842 died at Calaburn farm Wilton. 28/7/1889. (I obtained his death certificate from Scotlands People). I have traced him through the census until 1881,( In 1871 He was a farm servant at Mertoun with a family called Bell ) In 1891 his widow & family are still at Calaburn. but by 1901 they have moved to Wilton Crescent .Hawick. I have found their son Thomas 1879 died 1931 at New Cavers.Roxburghshire. also have seen the Army record of son John 1887 who was in WW1. and was a baker, the last I have seen of him is he was living in Selkirk 1919 . I have no idea if the daughters married, or what happened to the son George. or if any of them had descendants.
I notice you have an interest in Elliot & Crozier families. I also have these names in my tree from Newcastleton through my Glendinning/Jackson relations.
regards Catherine
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Hi there,
So...
Thomas (b.1842) & Jane Hendry had the following children, for which you are searching descendants?
- Thomas b.1879 d. 1931
m. Isabella Graham
- Thomas b. 1901
- Elizabeth b.1881
- Helen b.1883
- George b.1885
- John b.1887
The images for marriage certificates now go up to 1934 on the Scotland's People site, so you should be able to find all/any marriages that occurred in Scotland on there. It also has the images for death certs up to 1955 so again, there is a good chance that you will find some of them there. Searching for a death for the daughters will throw up any spouses names.
Of course, access to the 1911 census would help greatly too! But you'll have to wait at least another year for that!
As for my Elliots & Croziers - I don't have any connection to the Glendinnings at all yet. I do have a connection to a Jackson though. My GGGG Uncle William Elliot married an Elizabeth Jackson in 1870. She was the daughter of Robert Jackson and Margaret Hutton. And in spite of searching, I have yet to come across anyone researching the same Elliot line as me. I guess that shows just how many there were in Castleton in the 1800s!
Cheers,
Clare
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CATHIEMAY. iN kIRKHOPE CEMETERY THERE IS ALEXANDER STORIE died 26-11-1927 aged 75yrs wife Elizabeth Glendinning -Ellen their daughter and John storie killed 1st world war 3-5-1915 aged 24yrs.
also Alex Storrie died 25-9-1966 aged 83yrs wife Jessie Bell
In Ashkirk there isa Thomas Storey died Salenside 1923 aged 75yrs and in Ettrick Cem there is another Thomas wife of Mary Amos
In yarrow ther is an Andrew Storie Tait died Jedburgh 1908.
If you need more details let me know.I also have the headstone photos when i transcribed them all.
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Hi Allan,
Sorry for the delay in answering your e/mail, I have only found it. Thank you so much for your information on the Stories in various graveyards. The Alexander & Elizabeth Glendinning are my grandparents. and the Alexander & Jessie Bell (she lived until she was nearly 107). is my uncle & aunt. I am interested in the Thomas Storie's wife Mary Amos at Ettrick .(is that the cemetary at the top of the valley ?) I think that is my uncle s first wife. I have'nt found any connection so far with the others you mention, but will have a look to see if they fit in anywhere. There are so many Thomas 's amongst the Stories its all so confusing, but so very interesting trying to sort them all out. I would love to find where my grt.grt. grt. grandparents Thomas & Margaret Brunton are buried. He was a blacksmith I think on a farm around Jedburgh. His son Thomas & Isabella Deans & their son Thomas & Helen Telfer are buried at Jedburgh Abbey.
regards Cathiemay
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Yes Ettrick kirkyard is away at the top of Ettrick the one at EttrickbridgeEnd is Kirkhope cemetery.She was Mary Jane Amos died at Crosslee Farm 17-12-1928 aged 48yrs.
The others are in Jed.You mention Helen Telfer but MIs for Jed says Helen telfer Trotter
died Cleuchhead 1903 aged 79yrs and their son George died 1922 aged 76yrs. Beside the entry it says "whose" meaning whose son Isabellas or Helens ? then the names Helen and Thomas
Re the Bruntons you will have to give me Margarets maiden name and roughly the years and ages
I have in my tree an Alexander Brunton /Christne Hunter and their daughter married a Crosbie then down to my mother and then me.
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Hi Allan,
Thanks again for taking the trouble to help me with my problems . Helen Telfer is a mystery to me, I did see at Hawick Heritage centre the entry with the Trotter bit too. On her death certificate she is called Helen Telfer born at Castleton 1824 but it shows she was illigitemate and her mother was a Barbara Beattie, no father mentioned. The George that is mentioned along with them is her & Thomas's son. I don't have very much info. about Margaret Brunton (that was her maiden name). I have that she was born around 1751 or 1757 her husband Thomas Storry born about 1750 or it might be 1757 I just don't know as in the' family search' site there are 2 Thomas's born on these dates, and I don't know for sure who his parents were. In 2 of their sons death certificates it shows Thomas as being a blacksmith but Margaret & him are deceased by then. Thanks also for confirming where Mary Jane Amos is buried.
regards Cathiemay
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I have now traced the deaths of Thomas Storie & Jane Hendry's family. in S.P. Elizabeth died 1911 unmarried. at Hawick. Helen died 1911 married to William Turnbull in Hawick. George died 1908 at Hawick married to Mary Ellen Ingles. John died 1956 at Loanhead. married to 1st. Margaret _____ 2nd. Jessie Ann Mason.. and Thomas died 1931 at Cavers. I shall have to wait now on the 1911 census to find out if they had any families. Thank you all the folk who tried to help me find out about them.
Cathiemay.
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Hi Cathiemay,
I don't know if you will be interested but I am a descendant of the Hendrys of Brotherstone, Mertoun. I believe Jane Hendry was related to William Hendry my direct ancestor. I have lots on this side if you would like to find out more.
For example, the Mary Bell Thomas Storie was a farm servant to at Mertoun in 1871 was Bell through her second marriage, first marriage was to James Hendry, Jane Hendry's uncle.
Thomas Hendry, Jane's father died in 1891 at 10 Wilton Crescent, Wilton, death registered by his son John Hendry, residence, Calaburn Farm, Wilton.
Let me know if you would like to chat,
Gary
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Hello there, interested to read your post. I am a descendant of Thomas Storie. If you get this as it has been a while since you posted please reply and I will further more information
kind regards
Jane Gill
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Hi Jane,
I have only just found your e/mail. I am quite excited to find any one descended from Thomas Storie. I thought I was the only one searching for my lot. Please let me know all you know about family. I did get in touch with someone who was a descendant of Thomas but he didn't seem to know anything about the family, and didn't seem interested. I have found out little bits through census etc., Hope to hear from you very soon.
Cathiemay.
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My great Great grandmother was Agnes Storie born 1821. She married John bell. In her death notice in the paper it says she was the only daughter of Thomas Story (Sp as printed), farmer of Dalcove Mains, Berwickshire. I see from the internet there is a tombstone at Jedburgh which was erected by Thomas Storry (sp again as printed) , smith of Pleasants on the 22nd of April 1842 which is in memory of his grandson Thomas Bell and his son in law John Bell who died at Dalcove Mains 13th May 1862 which is correct for my Gt Gt Grandfather. I have information of a John Storie who died 21st January 19??08 or 1915 aged 75. Uncle George who died in Canada and an Aunty margaret died in 1909. We have inherited an old family photograph album and some maybe Stories but sadly none are named. with my husband we are only starting at tracing our family. It is is great to have got in touch with you - how are we related? Jane Gill
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Hi Jane,
How wonderful to have found someone at last from the same Stories as I am. I have traced Agnes to Glasgow in1901 census. When she left the borders her and daughter Isabella went to Penninhame Wigtownshire the when Isabella married they moved to Dunoon then Govan Glasgow. Am waiting on 1911 Scottish census to be put on Ancestry site. Have looked up a few on the 1911 census in Scotlands People. Don't know when Agnes died. Are you descended from Agnes's son John who seemed to have only one daughter Susan Agnes. or Isabella ?. Have found most of Agnes's siblings, after a bit of hunting. She had 2 other sisters. I did find one had died aged 4 but haven't found what happened to the other one.. Am stuck with one of her brothers -- Adam. He was around when his parents died 1872 then disappears. I did find an Adam Storie from Scotland ,a farmer emigrating to New York 1872 but no trace of him there.(don't know if it was him) Found George in Canada , along with another brother Alexander. The John who died in 1908 at Jedburgh
was another brother and his wife was Margaret Douglas who died 1907 (at least I think it will be them) I am descended from Agnes's brother Thomas 1818 who married Helen Telfer. Their son Alexander was my mothers father. I have seen the gravestone at Jedburgh Abbey. Its so worn now its almost impossible to read. Just as well someone took down what it said when they could still read it. What a pity there is no names on photo's, it would be lovely to know who they were. Is there no one you can ask.? Hope to hear from you soon.
Cathie
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Cathiemay. Here is the storie from Shawpark cemetery selkirk.
"54 In loving memory of JOHN son of JOHN STORIE who died 28th February 1910 aged 5 and one half years also the above JOHN STORIE who died 26th December"
"1943 aged 66yrs also his wife MAGGIE STORIE who died 19th October 1943 aged"
"66yrs."
This makes John born 1877 with a wife Maggie. Maybe not the same ones
alan
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Hi Alan,
Thank you so much for taking the trouble to look for Stories. I am afraid I made a mistake thinking my John Stories had lived in Selkirk. Got mixed up with another John. Found out that my John had lived in Loanhead & died in Edinburgh 1956. Still haven't found out if he had any family.
regards Cathiemay.
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Hi Jane,
I was hoping to hear from you again with your information on the Stories. I did try to send you a personal massage but don't know if it reached you.
regards Cathie
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cathiemay,I have checked the cemeteries roundabout here which i have transcribed and here are a few.
Kirkhope cemetery, Alex Storie died 1927 aged 75yrs/Eliz Glendinning with dau Ellen and son John Killed in action 3-5-1915. Alex Storrie died 1966 aged 83yrs
Ettrick Cemetery Thomas Storie b about 1880 Mary Jane Amos.
Bowden nnNIL
Ashkirk Thomas Storey died 1923 aged 75yrs Sandy Storie died 1996 aged 83yrs
Southdean Adam Story died 1608 but very difficult to read.
Abbotrule (now derilect) Marion Story died 1762 aged 60yrs /Robert Renwick also a Bessie Storie died 1710 aged 58yrs /John Scott
In one of our family trees I have James Stevenson/Isabella Storie and her father David Storie and margaret lawson married 1833 borthwick.
Thats my complete story of the stories!!!!!!
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Hi Allan,
Thank you for your reply. Quite a few of the Storie's you mention are my lot and the information is very helpful.
regards Cathiemay.
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Hi Cathiemay,
Just spotted your search this evening and realised you were talking about my ancestors. Thomas Storie and Isabella Graham were my great grandparents. Their children were George Andrew ( died in WW1) Thomas(married Mary Nesbitt), Jane ( my Grandmother after whom I am named and who married William Elliot), Elizabeth( married John Screen) and Isabella unmarried and who died a few yesrs ago aged 101. If this is helpful or you require further information please let me know.
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Hi Jane,
How wonderful to find another person descended from the same Stories as me. The Thomas 1843 who was married to Jane Hendry(the parents of Thomas 1879 ) was a cousin of my mothers, Her father was Alexander the youngest brother of Thomas 1843. Do you know if Thomas's 1879 brother John who died at Edinburgh in 1956 had any family ?. I think the 2 sisters didn't , and brother George had 1 son. I would love to hear anything you know about the Storie family.
regards Cathiemay
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Hi Cathie,
Lovely to hear from you. I've been asking my Mum ( Thomasina Storie Elliot ( maiden name)) about the family. She said that Elizabeth and Helen both died of TB. She doesn't think that Helen had family because they would have known. John married possibly 3 times but had no family. She remembers him as a very gentle man. George had one son, Thomas who had a son George and a daughter, Sybil, both alive and living in Hawick. We live in Northern Ireland although the rest of my Mum's family live in Scotland. If you wish to e mail me directly I'm happy for rootschat to give you my e mail address.
Best Wishes,
Jane.
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Hi Jane,
Thank you for your prompt reply. I can hardly believe that I've found someone of the Storie race & is interested in family. I was in touch with George's ( maybe grt grandson) but he didn't seem all that interested in the Stories. I think his grt grandfather died young & his grt. grandmother wouldn't have much to do with them after that. He also lived in Hawick. I don't think my mother knew about Thomas as she told me she had 4 cousins who used to live at Calaburn. I took the names down at the time on a piece of paper. they were Elizabeth, Helen John & George (who we had a photo of) . I suppose Thomas being the eldest would be working away from home. I don't know how you go about sending a personal message, not very good with computers. Its good to know that your mother has been christened with the female version of Thomas. There are so many Thomas's. My mother was Mary Storie , she had 3 sisters , one died when a girl & 6 brothers one died as a baby & one. in W.W.1 They lived in Ettrick & Yarrow Selkirkshire. I am in South Scotland,on the border of Dumfriesshire/Lanarkshire. Now there isn't any of them left. I wish I had asked more questions when there was someone to ask. On John's death cert. it shows 2 marriages 1st to Margaret ? & 2nd Jessie Ann Masson . The Margaret was Margaret Scott Murray who he married in 1923 at Hawick. He married Jessie Ann Mason at Lasswade Midlothian in 1954, so that marriage didn't last long as he died 1956. Its so interesting that your mother met him .Maybe Iv'e missed a marriage for him I don't suppose your mother will have heard of Adam Storie born 1838 at Jedburgh. I can't find him after 1872, when his parents Thomas & Isabella Deans die at Dalcove Mertoun.(I'm not sure if that's in Berwickshire or Roxburghshire)
Best Wishes
Cathie.
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Hi Cathie,
Thank you for your interesting message. My Mum hadn't heard of Adam Storie but could ask one of her sisters. She'd heard of a Sandy Storie but I'm not sure if that is your grandfather, it may be. I can certainly fill in the rest of the family tree from Thomas and Isabella Storie if you need them for your family tree. If you have other blank areas you wish to fill in I will check with my aunts.
Best Wishes,
Jane.
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Hi Jane,
Thank you for your reply. I didn't think your Mum would have heard of Adam, he remains a mystery. I did find an Adam Storie born around the same time in Scotland leaving from Liverpool to New York in 1872, but don't know if it was him. He had a couple of brothers in Canada, but there is no trace of him. Another mystery I have was our Grt.Grt not sure how many grts. grandmother Helen Telfer who was born around 1823/24 at New Castleton married to a Thomas Storie. It shows on her death cert., that she was illegitimate and her mother was Barbara Beattie. I can't find a Birth cert., for her, of course they didn't need them then. I think my grandfather got called Sandy, & I had an uncle called Alexander but he was called Eck, & his son was called Sandy Storie. Then there was an Alexander in Canada born Jedurgh 1822. I have all Thomas & Isabella Deans family accounted for except that Adam & Margaret. Thomas 1792 & Isabella are buried at Jedburgh Abbey along with their son Thomas & Helen Telfer,& grandson George. The stone is very worn & can hardly be read now. That Thomas's father another Thomas 1750 & his wife Margaret Brunton, I can't find where they are buried I have Robert at top of tree but don't know any thing about him. Please Thank your Mother for the help she has given me. I had a look at the 1911 census on Scotland People and saw that Thomas & Isabella Graham had 3 wee girls since the last census. I wondered what had happened to them, now you have told me. Thank you. If there is anything I can help you with , let me know.
Best wishes Cathie.
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I have no idea if we are related but my great grandmother was Margaret Storie who was married to Robert Rutherford. They lived in the county of Roxburgh. She died in1891 aged 57
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Dear Gilly,
I think we are related ,but far off. Your grt.grandmother Margaret's father William 1799 was a brother of my ancestor Thomas 1792. I notice your grt grandparents moved to Cirenchester in the 1881 census. William & all that family seem to be born at Lanton a village near Jedburgh. Infact Margaret was born there too where her father was a master blacksmith & A/G implement maker, his brother George was a blacksmith there too. If there is anything I can help you with, let me know
regards Cathie
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How interesting. You are right about Cirencester - Robert taught in Cirencester agricultural college and I have a photo of him with his pupils. If you could fill me in on the Storie family a bit more it would be good.
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Hi Gilly,
Where do I begin. First William1799-1885,George1793-1867 ,Thomas 1792-1872 , Robert /James 1801-1870(not sure if its the same person) & a sister called Janet1783 all had parents called Thomas Storie born either 1748/50 & Margaret Brunton . William married 1st Agnes Bennet 1831 who was Margarets mother, then married in 1842 Matilda Riddle 1814-1870. George married Dorothy Stevenson & had a family. Thomas married Isabella Deans from whom I am descended There was a James married to Margaret Campbell. I'm not sure about Janet, some folk have her married to Thomas Scott (I would need proof of that). Margaret had sisters called Susan 1831-1866 & Helen 1836. & half brothers Thomas William1843-1867, William George Robert 1849.& James Riddle 1844-1867 I see a half sister called Elizabeth1853-1870 Susan married a Robert Winter & had a family. I don't know about Helen . Thomas 1748/50 his father I've got as Robert Storry, but I know nothing about him .I know most of the men were blacksmiths or farmers. That's some of the Stories I hope you can understand all that
regards Cathie
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Thank you - my grandmother was named Helen too