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Title: Gee's in Leicestershire
Post by: chaneyline on Friday 27 November 09 20:14 GMT (UK)
I have had trawled  through the census records and FamilySearch.org for the following line:

****Alfred Gee (1862 or 1864 Leicester) Shoe finisher m. Elizabeth Ball (1863 Oakham)

*** Thomas Gee (1827 or 1829 Blaby) Framework Knitter m. Mary A Watts (1831 Hinckley)
***[1851 census confusing - no sign of Mary Ann, may not be married yet? There is a Thomas down as Stocking Maker from Barkby with a one year old]

**William Gee (1795/6 Blaby) Stocking Weaver m. Charlotte Bann (1798)
or ** Thomas Gee (1786 Blaby) Agricultural Labourer m. Mary ........

*Marmon? Gee (Mamon perhaps) 1766 m. Sarah Wood

*John Gee 1712 m. Eunice Freer
~~~~~~~~-------------------------------


**** Certain
*** Iffy ............ my assumptions based on Village and Type of work.
** very Iffy............ based on Village.
* probably tosh

Anybody any reasonable suggestions please.
Martin
Title: Re: Gee's in Leicestershire
Post by: Finley 1 on Friday 27 November 09 20:45 GMT (UK)
Not really understanding what you are looking for her?

Are you searching for  the family of Alfred Gee 1862 Leicester and his descendants?
or ascendants

the 1891 census shows alfred and Elizabeth living in Leicester with a son Alfred..

the 1871 shows  this 
Alfred West 25
Sarah West 22
Mary West 10 months
Thomas Gee 41
Mary Gee 40
John Gee 17
Charlotte Gee 14
Thomas Gee 12
Alfred Gee 7
Elizabeth Gee 4

1901 has this:

Alfred Gee 37
Elizabeth Gee 38
Charles William Stubley 15
Alfred Gee 11
Frances Gertrude Gee 8
Arthur Edgar Gee 7
Walter Sidney Gee 5
Thomas Gee 1


charles william stubley is down as stepson

xin
 
 
Title: Re: Gee's in Leicestershire
Post by: chaneyline on Friday 27 November 09 21:49 GMT (UK)
Thanks Xin,

Sorry, did not explain myself very well.
The Elizabeth Gee in the 1901 census was married previously to a Tom Stubley who died hence William living with the Gee's.

I believe I have the Gee's correct from the 1861 census forward  in time but cannot accurately go back in time and am not sure what to do next.

Martin
Title: Re: Gee's in Leicestershire
Post by: Finley 1 on Friday 27 November 09 22:10 GMT (UK)
okay

So you are trying to find the parentage of Alfred Gee
and then the maiden name of Elizabeth formerly Stubley to lead to her parentage...


Uhhhmm   ok  thinking on that and will see if i can help

xin
Title: Re: Gee's in Leicestershire
Post by: Finley 1 on Friday 27 November 09 22:27 GMT (UK)
Thomas Stubley married an Elizabeth Venable in June 1853 in Leicester..
a.n. other Thomas Stubley married an Eliza Dexter in Leicester also in 1853

Thomas died 1864

this is all toooo early for the stepson who is 15 in 1901 he would have been born in 1886

did I get the yr wrong when quoting 1901 census... ??  will check again

so still looking

xin
Title: Re: Gee's in Leicestershire
Post by: Finley 1 on Friday 27 November 09 22:39 GMT (UK)
Sorry Martin

I am getting a little confused here I think...

I have searched for marriages of Thomas Stubley to try and find Elizabeth 's maiden name..

what I can gather from you is   that you need to find Alfred Gees parents and his wife Elizabeths   therefore we need to find her maiden name.. 

but the ages dont add up for me... the 1901 census has Alfreds wife as 38 meaning born  1863 ... therefore marrying 1st time around 1883 / 1888  but to have had a couple of kids by 1901 and a.n. other marriage.................... is where I am getting confused.. I will leave it for now and see if I have more time over the weekend ..

But I am sure you will get help from someone with more brain cells than me......

Xin
Title: Re: Gee's in Leicestershire
Post by: Finley 1 on Friday 27 November 09 23:17 GMT (UK)
I have found a marriage for

Alfred GEE
to Elizabeth STUBLEY
in Jun 1889

in BILLESDON  which is a district in Leicester

and then I found  Tom Stubley married to Elizabeth Ball in Sept 1885

good so now I see where I am going.. phew...confuscious....

need now to find Alfred Gees parents and Elizabeth Balls parents...etc.. manyana

xin
Title: Re: Gee's in Leicestershire
Post by: Annie65115 on Friday 27 November 09 23:37 GMT (UK)
FreeBMD gives the births of 2 Alfred Gee's in Leicester , in 1863 and 1864 (not 1862) - but one of these died in 1866.

Just to confuse the issue, there's also the birth of an Alfred Gee in Blaby in 1865!

Alfred m Elizabeth Stubley in Billesden reg district in 1889 (ie not Leicester town).

There are 2 possible Stubley/Elizabeth marriages - and since you mention Tom Stubley,  Tom Stubley m Elizabeth Ball Leicester 1885, and there was indeed an Elizabeth Ball whose birth was registered in Oakham in 1863.

In 1881, there are 2 Alfred Gees of the right age in Leicestershire. One lives in Countesthorpe, which is in the Blaby area; the other is in Humberstone Leicester, and is the son of Thomas and Mary Gee, siblings Elizabeth and Mary A. Thomas was born in Blaby, Mary in Hinckley and the children all in St Margaret's.

Title: Re: Gee's in Leicestershire
Post by: Annie65115 on Friday 27 November 09 23:37 GMT (UK)
Xinia, you're typing faster than me!!
Title: Re: Gee's in Leicestershire
Post by: Annie65115 on Friday 27 November 09 23:48 GMT (UK)
Thomas and Mary Gee are in the 1861 census with children Ann(9), John (7), Charlotte (5) and Thomas(1).

Thomas Gee m Mary Ann Watts in Leicester in June 1854 (how sure are you that this is the right Mary? There are several other Thomas Gee marraiges in the county). This clearly wouldn't fit with Ann's birth though of course she could have been born before Thomas and Mary married (Ann Watts birth regd 1851).
Title: Re: Gee's in Leicestershire
Post by: Finley 1 on Saturday 28 November 09 00:22 GMT (UK)
sorry Annie

well i searched these due to finding
Elizabeth Ball Oakham 1863 daughter of Samuel and Hannah   but then in 1871  Samuel is 65 and a cooper born loughborough
and Hannah born Grantham age 44  so below is probably wrong

 ;D ??? ??? ??? ::)dementia lo siento :-\


I have searched and searched enuff 4 2day 

BUT

I think I found part of the problem

Samuel Balls marriage to  Hannah   

I think there is a slip up in bmd transcription  I found Samuel s marriage and  7a 28a
and then an Hannah Browett  7a 284 

June 1857 

so see where this leads...

night night
leaving it to the people who can think straight ..... :D ;)
Xin
Title: Re: Gee's in Leicestershire
Post by: chaneyline on Saturday 28 November 09 17:17 GMT (UK)
Thanks for your efforts.

It is only the Gee line I am interested in.
I have a copy birth cert. of Alfred Gee (1890)
His father also an Alfred (shoe finisher), mother Elizabeth, formerly Ball ( also briefly Stubley, I now think).
The marriage  is registered on FreeBMD as Alfred Gee/Elizabeth Stubley, June 1889 in Billesden.
So, I need to find out the name of Alfred's father to have a chance of a little more accuracy.
Has anybody got access to parish record marriages to clear this stage up?

(3 - Alfred Gee's born between 1863-1865, 2 in Leicester, 1 died and 1 in Blaby). Free BMD.


Cheers.



Title: Re: Gee's in Leicestershire
Post by: Finley 1 on Saturday 28 November 09 18:15 GMT (UK)
Thomas Gee
1829 – 1901
Mary Ann Hough
1831 – 1879

these are the parents of 'AN' Alfred Gee in leicester

they are in the 1871 census with him RG10/3273  Thomas born in Blaby.

xin
Title: Re: Gee's in Leicestershire
Post by: TonyV on Friday 08 January 10 13:50 GMT (UK)
Hi

A maternal  great grandmother of mine was Elizabeth Ann King (nee Gee) who was born in Somerby near Melton Mowbray in 1846. Is there any relationship with your GEEs do you think?

Tony
Title: Re: Gee's in Leicestershire
Post by: toni* on Friday 08 January 10 14:15 GMT (UK)
do you still need help with this ?
Title: Re: Gee's in Leicestershire
Post by: TonyV on Friday 08 January 10 21:41 GMT (UK)
Hi Toni

I'm sorry, I don't understand your question.

Tony
Title: Re: Gee's in Leicestershire
Post by: toni* on Monday 11 January 10 10:37 GMT (UK)
with the original question, is help stil needed to solve the problem?
Title: Re: Gee's in Leicestershire
Post by: egyptian on Sunday 15 May 11 18:42 BST (UK)
hi alfred gee is my fathers grandfather & elizabeth stubly was married twice with her first husband dying
  my grandfather was thomas gee born 1899 to them both
Title: Re: Gee's in Leicestershire
Post by: chaneyline on Sunday 15 May 11 21:24 BST (UK)
Hello Egyptian,

Looks like we have the same Great Grandfather. Presume we are talking of Framework Knitters, shoemakers in Leicester etc.

Here is a picture of my Grandfather (Thomas's brother) with his daughters, have you any of your Grandfather or others of Gee clan?
Thanks
Martin
Title: Re: Gee's in Leicestershire
Post by: toni* on Monday 16 May 11 14:22 BST (UK)
Hi Martin who is the lady at the forefront of your photo next to the suitcase brown box?
Title: Re: Gee's in Leicestershire
Post by: chaneyline on Monday 16 May 11 18:22 BST (UK)
My Grandfather Alfred Gee, then his daughters Annie May, Ethel & Amy Gee - although I know that Ethel is in the middle of the three but I am not sure which is which of the other two.  I don't know who the lady is giving the child an apple, might be my Grandmother, I never met them.

Title: Re: Gee's in Leicestershire
Post by: egyptian on Thursday 19 May 11 20:11 BST (UK)
yes i can deffo see the family resemblance with my father in your photo got to say yes i do resemble the girls too.............oh dear i do have the "gee" nose lol
  thank you for posting that photo
Title: Re: Gee's in Leicestershire
Post by: egyptian on Friday 20 May 11 21:14 BST (UK)
right heres what ive got on the gee's

 alfred gee & elizabeth gee both living 15 eastbourne road ,west humberstone, leicester
 children
 charles stubley born 1886
alfred gee born 1890
frances gertrude gee born 1893
 arthur edgar gee born 1894
 walter sydney gee born 1896
thomas gee born 1899 (my grandfather)

my dad remembers a "stubley living 2 doorsaway from them as kids & his father thomas never spoke to him there was some hatred going on there !!!11

alfreds father was thomas gee born 1829 he married mary ann watts
 on their marriage certificate it says
 12th june 1854 married leicester registry office
 thomas was 24 yrs & mary was 23 years
 thomas was a framework knitter
 both lived 28 lewin street leicester

 their fathers were william gee (freamework knitter) & william watts (framework knitter)

 now william gee married charlotte vann 23rd sept 1818 blaby
 william gee born 1794 blaby & charlotte 1800 great glenn

 i have some piccys of my grandfather but i need to scan onto pc

 take care michelle gee
Title: Re: Gee's in Leicestershire
Post by: Drobbly on Sunday 29 April 12 12:49 BST (UK)
Some of the Gee's I'm my family tree


 

William Gee 1 was born about 1805 in Of, Preston, Rutland, England. He married Elizabeth Sneath on 1 Jun 1830 in Ayston, Rutland, England.

[Notes]
Elizabeth Sneath 1 was born about 1809 in Of, Ayston, Rutland, England. She married William Gee on 1 Jun 1830 in Ayston, Rutland, England.

[Notes]
They had the following children:

       M   i    Henry Gee was born in Feb 1841. He died in 1923.
       M   ii    George Gee was born about 1832.
       F   iii    Hannah Gee was born about 1834.
       F   iv    Emma Gee was born about 1836.
       M   v    James Gee was born about 1837.
       M   vi    Charles Gee was born about 1838. [Notes]

Title: Re: Gee's in Leicestershire
Post by: Drobbly on Sunday 29 April 12 12:52 BST (UK)
Some of the later Gee's including my grand father Charles..


Henry Gee [Parents] was born on 11 Oct 1866. He died on 11 Sep 1935. He married Fanny Merrall on 28 Mar 1891 in St Matthews Leicester. Henry was employed as Mechanic.

[Notes]
Fanny Merrall [Parents] was born on 10 Apr 1868. She was christened on 10 Jan 1869. She died in Dec 1938. She married Henry Gee on 28 Mar 1891 in St Matthews Leicester. Fanny was confirmed on 12 May 1883.

[Notes]
They had the following children:

       M   i    Charles William Gee was born on 13 Jun 1907. He died on 22 May 1980.
       M   ii    Arthur Henry Gee was born on 12 Apr 1894. He was christened on 9 May 1894. [Notes]
       F   iii    Fanny Phillis Gee was born on 26 Jan 1896. She was christened on 24 Feb 1896. She died on 26 Feb 1896.
       M   iv    George Albert Gee "alby" was born on 1 May 1897. He died on 23 Jun 1918 in Leicester. He was buried in Welford Road Cemetary, Leicester. [Notes]
       M   v    James Horace Gee was born on 3 Jun 1899. He died in 1901.
       M   vi    Frank Victor Gee was born on 1 Jun 1902. He died on 6 May 1970.
       M   vii    Thomas Leonard Gee was born on 25 Mar 1904. He died on 13 Dec 1987.



Hope this is of help to someone...
Title: Re: Gee's in Leicestershire
Post by: November_Ghost on Thursday 20 June 13 15:22 BST (UK)
Hey all,

My great great grandmother was Elizabeth Gee, daughter or Thomas and Mary Ann Gee.

Her brothers were Thomas, Alfred and John Watts Gee.

Title: Re: Gee's in Leicestershire
Post by: TonyV on Friday 21 June 13 00:34 BST (UK)
In Drobbly's post earlier he mentions that his ancestor William Gee married Elizabeth Sneath in Ayston on 1 June 1830. According to the Family Search site a William Gee married an Elizabeth Evertt in Ayston on 31 May 1830. The same site also states that William Gee married Elizabeth Sneath on 31 May 1830. I guess that they can't both be correct. Ayston was too small a village to have such a coincidence surely!

I appreciate that Family Search may not always be correct, given the source of some of its records, but I'd be interested in the provenance of Drobbly's source because if both are intended to be the same marriage, one of the records must be incorrect.

I ask because I believe that this William Gee was one of my great great grandfathers.

cheers

Tony
Title: Re: Gee's in Leicestershire
Post by: niglor on Tuesday 06 August 13 14:07 BST (UK)
I have some Gees in my family tree. My gt gt gt grandmother Mary Gee (1777-1828) of Barwell. Her father was Thomas. This is the only info i have on them so be great if anyone can help me with anything else  My Mary Gee married Daniel Dale.
Title: Re: Gee's in Leicestershire
Post by: iluleah on Tuesday 06 August 13 14:50 BST (UK)
Just tagging this thread so I can find it again.......

Ann Elizabeth Gee born 1830 Welford, Northamptonshire married John Hames Lutterworth district 1859 they lived at Rotherby Leicester until John died then Ann was in Husbands Bosworth Leicestershire

Only found her surname yesterday so no idea about other family parents/siblings etc but do know many 'Leicester Families' who did move from Northamptonshire especially from the connecting lines of the 'Barrett', 'Skinner' 'Thompson' shoe families
Title: Re: Gee's in Leicestershire
Post by: chaneyline on Wednesday 16 October 13 21:44 BST (UK)
Hello Michelle,
Hope you are still on the site.
If so could you send me a photo of your father or grandfather I would be interested to see if there is any resemblance.

Martin G
Where are you in the country?
Title: Re: Gee's in Leicestershire
Post by: Pingle70 on Sunday 18 October 15 18:59 BST (UK)
Hello.

I have just wandered onto this post.
My great grandmother was Francis Gertrude Gee.

I am going to read this thread though thoroughly as I think this is my family !

Mandy.
Title: Re: Gee's in Leicestershire
Post by: Drobbly on Monday 13 August 18 11:43 BST (UK)
In Drobbly's post earlier he mentions that his ancestor William Gee married Elizabeth Sneath in Ayston on 1 June 1830. According to the Family Search site a William Gee married an Elizabeth Evertt in Ayston on 31 May 1830. The same site also states that William Gee married Elizabeth Sneath on 31 May 1830. I guess that they can't both be correct. Ayston was too small a village to have such a coincidence surely!

I appreciate that Family Search may not always be correct, given the source of some of its records, but I'd be interested in the provenance of Drobbly's source because if both are intended to be the same marriage, one of the records must be incorrect.

I ask because I believe that this William Gee was one of my great great grandfathers.

cheers

Tony

The Sneath marriage is correct, one of the sons had a middle name of Sneath, sorry it took so long to reply
Title: Re: Gee's in Leicestershire
Post by: TonyV on Monday 13 August 18 13:27 BST (UK)
Wow Drobbly, that was a long time but thanks anyway.

Since I first posted that, findmypast has published images of parish marriage records and there is one for this marriage. So, as you say, the lady's name was definitely Sneath and the marriage took place on 31 May 1830, the day after the third banns were announced. The couple were my great great grandparents on my mother's side.

Are we therefore related?

Tony