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Title: Grimes family, Kilmaine. Advice please
Post by: nell1850 on Tuesday 22 December 09 18:08 GMT (UK)
I wonder if anyone can advise me. I've been researching my great grandmother's siblings. There are two sisters born in 1873 in Coolisduff, Kilmaine. I'd wondered if they were twins but I have traced their birth records and one of them ( Sabina Grimes church record) is dated 27/7/1873. The other (Sarah Grimes civil record) is dated 20/12/1873. The civil record has the letter E. in the notes field. Could this mean Early or premature?

For another sibling, born in 1860, there are no sponsors on the baptism record but it is noted that her grandmother was present at the birth. Does this suggest that she died at birth or was stillborn?

Any thoughts gratefully received.
Title: Re: Grimes family, Kilmaine. Advice please
Post by: heywood on Tuesday 22 December 09 18:56 GMT (UK)
Hello,

Could Sarah and Sabina be the same person? I have seen the two names together with Sibby/Sally interchanged.
I know the church record is first but I also think that civil registration was not as important as baptism (my own father was baptised a week before his official birthdate according to his registration).
As regards 'E'- can't help sorry.
For the 1860 baptism, it would be usual for grandmother to be there and often grandparents were sponsors. The child may have been stillborn/died early and the baptism performed at home by grandmother perhaps. If there is no record for this child as living then that could be the case/
If you have records from the church -are there any death records?

heywood
Title: Re: Grimes family, Kilmaine. Advice please
Post by: nell1850 on Tuesday 22 December 09 19:40 GMT (UK)
Hello Heywood
Thanks for your response. Yes, I had wondered if they were the same person but was thrown by the dates being so far apart but yes, civil registration wouldn't have been the most important.

Re: the 1860 birth, I haven't traced any other records for this sibling, so perhaps she did die young.
Thanks again
Title: Re: Grimes family, Kilmaine. Advice please
Post by: aghadowey on Tuesday 22 December 09 22:49 GMT (UK)
Evidence seems to point towards there being 1 daughter born in 1873. Civil registration index has Sarah Grimes birth registered 1874 Ballinrobe registration district (no Sabina/Sabrina Grimes appears in index for any period).
IGI lists a birth for Sarah Grimes 20 Dec.1873 Ballinrobe district daughter of John Grimes and Biddy Duddy. IGI also lists 2 other daughters-
Judy born 28 Aug.1865 Ballinrobe district (page 47 in civil index)
Honor born 20 Oct.1869 Co. Galway
Title: Re: Grimes family, Kilmaine. Advice please
Post by: nell1850 on Wednesday 23 December 09 15:43 GMT (UK)
Thanks for checking this out for me. That is most helpful. The date I gave for Judy (1860) was my typing error. She was born, as you say, in 1865.
I am a bit baffled. I found the record for Sabina on IFHF. Could it be a transcription error? Easily done, as I've just proved! :-\
Title: Re: Grimes family, Kilmaine. Advice please
Post by: grimeshudds on Monday 28 December 09 21:41 GMT (UK)
I wonder if anyone can advise me. I've been researching my great grandmother's siblings. There are two sisters born in 1873 in Coolisduff, Kilmaine. I'd wondered if they were twins but I have traced their birth records and one of them ( Sabina Grimes church record) is dated 27/7/1873. The other (Sarah Grimes civil record) is dated 20/12/1873. The civil record has the letter E. in the notes field. Could this mean Early or premature?

For another sibling, born in 1860, there are no sponsors on the baptism record but it is noted that her grandmother was present at the birth. Does this suggest that she died at birth or was stillborn?

Any thoughts gratefully received.
hi im very new to this , but i am interested in trying to piece together my family tree , my name is simon grimes , i live in the uk but have family still living in kilmaine , spent all my school holidays in blessington and i remember the place you mention  coolisduff , my grandad was called harry grimes but i think his real name was actually harry , would be interested if you know anything about him or family , very new to this so any advise would be welcome . thanks
Title: Re: Grimes family, Kilmaine. Advice please
Post by: nell1850 on Tuesday 29 December 09 09:32 GMT (UK)
Hi there Grimeshudds.
I think it's very likely that we share great great grandparents. If you go to the 1911 census, there is a Harry Grimes listed in Coolisduff. Is this your grandfather?
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Mayo/Kilmaine/Coolisduff/703579/
I'm happy to PM you with more info but I think you need to post at least 3 messages before I can do that (I've just read that on the etiquette page).
Title: Re: Grimes family, Kilmaine. Advice please
Post by: grimeshudds on Tuesday 29 December 09 11:04 GMT (UK)
hi , yes i was up late last night looking at the irish national archives and found the whole family ,i was amazed i could look at the housing situation and details such as who can read and write etc..and my grandad was harry , are you in the uk or ireland? im hoping to try and piece together the family tree , im going to see my dad (david grimes) today so will ask him for some info , im sure he will be amazed to look at the census of his family , i do remember there being an aunt molly grimes who emigrated to america i think but there is no mention of her on the census , i wonder if her real name was honor ? how far have you got with your investigations ? :)
Title: Re: Grimes family, Kilmaine. Advice please
Post by: aghadowey on Tuesday 29 December 09 11:26 GMT (UK)
Molly is often a nickname for Mary and there's a Mary Grimes in the census link posted above- could be her?
Title: Re: Grimes family, Kilmaine. Advice please
Post by: grimeshudds on Tuesday 29 December 09 11:35 GMT (UK)
more than likely , i need to find some dob's and basic info out , any advise would be be greatley recieved , only just started looking into my ancestry and becoming quite addicted ;D ;D
Title: Re: Grimes family, Kilmaine. Advice please
Post by: grimeshudds on Tuesday 29 December 09 12:23 GMT (UK)
my grandma was mary grimes nee devers , from a place called tullyduff in co mayo , not been able to find any info on her she had a brother called john and sister called julia , but thats the only info i have at the moment , any ideas on how i can find anymore out about the other side of my family . thanks
Title: Re: Grimes family, Kilmaine. Advice please
Post by: nell1850 on Tuesday 29 December 09 14:39 GMT (UK)
hi , yes i was up late last night looking at the irish national archives and found the whole family ,i was amazed i could look at the housing situation and details such as who can read and write etc..and my grandad was harry , are you in the uk or ireland? im hoping to try and piece together the family tree , im going to see my dad (david grimes) today so will ask him for some info , im sure he will be amazed to look at the census of his family , i do remember there being an aunt molly grimes who emigrated to america i think but there is no mention of her on the census , i wonder if her real name was honor ? how far have you got with your investigations ? :)

Hi again. You'll see that I have PM'd you with more info on the Grimes family but if you want to chase anyone who went to America, the Ellis Island passenger lists are a great source - I've found loads of people there.  :)
http://www.ellisislandrecords.org
Title: Re: Grimes family, Kilmaine. Advice please
Post by: Neptune on Tuesday 29 December 09 21:36 GMT (UK)
Hi

You might like to have a look at this site - the 1901 census for a few counties - including Mayo - has been put on line(not the original transcripts).Looks like the same family are there living with Michaels mother Bridget who is a widow  aged 80- she is the head of the household. The ages are slightly different but this isn't unusual.

Just select county Mayo then put Grimes in the head of household - you should be able to see quite a few families.
Then select county Mayo but this time put Grimes in 'other enumerators in household' - you should then see other families who have people called Grimes living with them.

http://www.leitrim-roscommon.com/1901census/census.shtml

There are a couple of civil registration birth entries for Julia Grimes in Mayo - one in 1889 and one in 1894.  The birth certificate for one of the children (or for Harry)would give their mother's maiden name. Once you have her maiden name it should be possible to apply for a marriage certificate.

http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#start

I believe that the 1901 census of Ireland is due to be released in the near future.

This next site is free to register but costs five euros to view each entry so you have to make sure you have the correct record as it could be expensive!

http://www.irish-roots.ie/pay-per-view.asp

Good luck

Neptune
Title: Re: Grimes family, Kilmaine. Advice please
Post by: grimeshudds on Thursday 31 December 09 15:35 GMT (UK)
thanks neptune thats excellent advise , things are getting very interesting and addictve   :D
Title: Re: Grimes family, Kilmaine. Advice please
Post by: mayojoe123 on Monday 17 May 10 04:44 BST (UK)
Hi there, I stumbled across this site today and I am responding to the Sarah Grimes and Sabina Grimes inquiry.  Sarah Grimes - b. Dec 20, 1873 is my great grandmother.  I ran into the same problem with Sarah and Sabina but ended up doing more extensive searching and resolved the confusion.  I don't mind sharing what I came across.  Are you or is anyone searching for Sarah Grimes, b. Dec 20, 1873.  I am having a hard time finding information on her siblings.
Title: Re: Grimes family, Kilmaine. Advice please
Post by: nell1850 on Monday 17 May 10 18:16 BST (UK)
Hi there, I stumbled across this site today and I am responding to the Sarah Grimes and Sabina Grimes inquiry.  Sarah Grimes - b. Dec 20, 1873 is my great grandmother.  I ran into the same problem with Sarah and Sabina but ended up doing more extensive searching and resolved the confusion.  I don't mind sharing what I came across.  Are you or is anyone searching for Sarah Grimes, b. Dec 20, 1873.  I am having a hard time finding information on her siblings.

Hello - Sarah Grimes's sister Mary is my great grandmother. I will PM you
Title: Re: Grimes family, Kilmaine. Advice please
Post by: aghadowey on Monday 17 May 10 18:20 BST (UK)
New members usually need 3 posts to use PM system:
www.rootschat.com/help/pms.php
Title: Re: Grimes family, Kilmaine. Advice please
Post by: nell1850 on Monday 17 May 10 18:42 BST (UK)
Thanks for the reminder Aghadowey.
Mayojoe123 - really pleased to hear from you. Other than our great grandmothers, Sarah and Mary, I know of 3 other siblings - Michael, Judy and Honor. I know a little about Michael through his descendant but next to nothing about Judy and Honor, other than their baptism records.
Title: Re: Grimes family, Kilmaine. Advice please
Post by: mayojoe123 on Tuesday 18 May 10 05:35 BST (UK)
Hi, well Sarah Grimes born Dec 20, 1873 is my great grandmother and I was able to find her birth cert info at the dublin vital statistics office, then when I went to the family heritage center in ballinrobe, they gave me information for Sabina Grimes.  I have not confirmed if Sabina and Sarah are the same but I did confirm that Sabina Grimes and family was not who I was looking for because I do know that my Sarah Grimes had a sister named bridget and Anna and Sabina and Sarah's DOB's are off.  I paid a lot of money for the report and it was wrong meaning probably not my family.

I can provide info that John Grimes and Bridget Duddy had 5 children:  Mary b. 1858, Michael b. 1860, Judy b. 1865, Honor b. 1869 and Sabina b. 1873.

Michael Grimes had 9 children:

Julia b. 1893, John b. 1894, Thomas b. 1896, Mary b. 1899, Michael b. 1900, Honor b. 1904, Patrick b. 1907, Sarah b. 1908 and Harry b. 1911.

If you know anybody with information on my Sarah Grimes b. Dec 20, 1873 and daughter of John Grimes and Biddy Duddy, please let me know.  We are 98% certain she had two sisters named Anna and Bridget but can't find anything else.

Hope this info helped.
Title: Re: Grimes family, Kilmaine. Advice please
Post by: nell1850 on Tuesday 18 May 10 06:31 BST (UK)
I am very confused. I have baptism records (found on IFHF) for Mary b.1858, Michael b.1860, Judy b.1865, Honor b.1869, Sarah b.1873 and Sabina b.1873 (who I thought were the same person) all giving their mother as Bridget Duddy and all from Coolisduff (which is definitely the right village). I haven't come across Anna Grimes.
Title: Re: Grimes family, Kilmaine. Advice please
Post by: mayojoe123 on Tuesday 18 May 10 14:12 BST (UK)
Is it possible there were two John Grimes and Biddy Duddy's? Is Biddy and Bridget the same?
Title: Re: Grimes family, Kilmaine. Advice please
Post by: nell1850 on Tuesday 18 May 10 17:48 BST (UK)
Biddy can certainly be shorthand for Bridget. Do you mind me asking what your source is for John and Sarah Grimes as the parents, as opposed to John and Bridget?
Title: Re: Grimes family, Kilmaine. Advice please
Post by: heywood on Tuesday 18 May 10 23:53 BST (UK)
Hello,
I have been reading this thread and getting confused too  ;)
I doubt that there are two sets of John Grimes and Biddy Duddys. Biddy can be short for Bridget yes.

Mayojoe - are you saying that your Sarah Grimes is not the daughter of John and Bridget?

Besides the Family Search baptisms mentioned earlier in the thread, there are also these:

Biddy Grymes 1866- parents James Grymes and Mary Duddy
Mary Grymes 1868 parents James Grymes adn Mary Duddy
Sarah Grimes 1870 parents James Grimes and Mary Duddy
Thomas Grimes  1873 parents James Grimes and Mary Duddy

It also has civil births for Sarah Grimes, Ballinrobe district for 1870 and 1874 - nothing for Sabina.

heywood

Title: Re: Grimes family, Kilmaine. Advice please
Post by: mayojoe123 on Wednesday 19 May 10 05:05 BST (UK)
I made a correction to my earlier post, John Grimes and Bridget Duddy are the parents. Not John and Sarah.
Title: Re: Grimes family, Kilmaine. Advice please
Post by: mayojoe123 on Wednesday 19 May 10 05:22 BST (UK)
Please help, what is IFHF?  Where can I find a research source to get birth and baptismal info?  I did my research the hard way by going to the Dublin Registrar Office.

I have a birth certificate for Sarah Grimes born Dec 20, 1873 with parents names John Grimes and Biddy Duddy. (Not Bridget, but I was told Bridget and Biddy are the same)

When I received the birth cert, I went to the heritage office and I was given a report for John Grimes and Bridget Duddy children. The list of children provided is in my previous message.

This report did not include a Sarah Grimes with the above DOB or sisters Anna and Bridget.  I have death certificates for Sarah and Bridget stating their parents names were John Grimes and Bridget Grimes?????

Sabina was born July 27, 1873.  Her and Sarah's DOB's are to close, and the birth cert for Sarah states that it was registered Jan 24, 1874.

Hope this helps.
Thanks
Title: Re: Grimes family, Kilmaine. Advice please
Post by: heywood on Wednesday 19 May 10 16:08 BST (UK)
Hello,
IFHF is here: http://mayo.brsgenealogy.com/  (Mayo part) . You have to register for free and searching is free but not really specific and it is expensive to get the information. However, I notice e.g. there is a civil birth for Bridget Grymes 1866 (as above).

I thought, from the info on Family Search, that it looks as though two brothers,James and John may have married two sisters Mary and Biddy.

Have you searched back from what you know for definite - e.g. Sarah's children's birth certificates; then Sarah's marriage certificate to make sure you have the right person.
The marriage certificate would have her father's name so that would help surely.
(Apologies if you have done this already).

heywood

Just thinking, if you got the birth certificate for Sarah first, then went to the heritage office with that specific info , then they would give you the family of John and Biddy. However, if you had gone with just a name- Sarah Grimes, then you may have got the other family. ???
Title: Re: Grimes family, Kilmaine. Advice please
Post by: nell1850 on Wednesday 19 May 10 21:17 BST (UK)
The Grimes baptism records are awash with Duddys as sponsors ::) Hard to work out the relationships.
This is all very confusing - think I'll have to sleep on it.
Heywood - thanks for looking things up. You've given me plenty of food for thought  :)

Title: Re: Grimes family, Kilmaine. Advice please
Post by: heywood on Wednesday 19 May 10 22:29 BST (UK)
Hello Nell,
it sounds as though you have searched the actual baptisms if you have sponsors too.
The names I gave were the parents as recorded.
Just out of interest, I have looked ahgain at IFHF indexes.

I haven't checked them obviously other than this:
1857 Kilmaine parish  John Grimes
1857 Kilmaine Parish Bridget Duddy

As I said earlier both for you and joe, if Sarah is your direct ancestor, then her father's name would be on her marriage certificate and then at least you are on safer ground to check.

I know from my own family research that ages/ registration times are not always very accurate.

heywood
Title: Re: Grimes family, Kilmaine. Advice please
Post by: mayojoe123 on Friday 21 May 10 14:22 BST (UK)
Thanks everyone for your help. I will keep looking. I have death cert for Sarah but cannot locate marriage. i also have death cert for the apparent siser Bridget. I applied for death cert for the apparent sister Anna. Nothing yet. Will keep u posted.
Title: Re: Grimes family, Kilmaine. Advice please
Post by: heywood on Friday 21 May 10 16:33 BST (UK)
Hello again Joe,

do you want to share with us who she married and when and where?

Someone may be able to find the marriage.

good luck
heywood
Title: Re: Grimes family, Kilmaine. Advice please
Post by: mayojoe123 on Friday 21 May 10 17:15 BST (UK)
Hi,

Sarah Grimes immigrated to the U.S. and married Thomas O'Day. Their oldest child was born 1898. She died in Brooklyn Jan 1933.

Bridget was married to a Walsh first name unknown. Died Dec 1933. Death cert gives parents as John Grimes and Bridget Duddy. Cert said she was a widow and no spouse name on cert. i found her in cemetery and is burried with Sarah and no other Walsh. Perhaps she immigrated to states as a widow.

Informant was a sister named Anna Gibbons.  Anna died May 1953 in Jersey and was remarried to Fitzmaurice. No first names on spouses and haven't got death cert yet. She died in Jersey but originally lived in Brooklyn.  Unsure of where she is burried. 

 when i found Briget's death cert and saw the informant was Anna, i found an old prayer card in some stuff from Anna Gibbons Fitzmourice funeral but surviving relatives no nothing of her.

This is all the info I have.
Thanks
Title: Re: Grimes family, Kilmaine. Advice please
Post by: heywood on Friday 21 May 10 19:10 BST (UK)
This site
http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/h/i/l/Angelique-J-Hill/GENE2-0002.html   has:

EDWARD HENRY FITZMAURICE 1864- 1931 married to ANNA GRIMES GIBBONS June 20, 1917 in Elizabeth, New Jersey, daughter of JOHN GRIMES and BRIDGET DURDY.
Title: Re: Grimes family, Kilmaine. Advice please
Post by: mayojoe123 on Friday 21 May 10 20:09 BST (UK)
Durdy sounds like Duddy to me!!

you are really really good at this. Thank you so much!!!

i have a day off next fri maybe I can try to get to NJ and check it out.
Title: Re: Grimes family, Kilmaine. Advice please
Post by: mayojoe123 on Sunday 15 August 10 03:06 BST (UK)
Hi heywood,

Its been a while. I finally have a copy of Anna Gibbons marraige cert to Edward Fitzmaurice.  The certificate actually gives some detail as to where in Ireland Anna was born.  I can't make out the handwriting all that well but it does seem to be spellled Killanane, Ireland.  The place of birth for Edward seems to be Bellinane??? can you help on these locations??

Thanks
Title: Re: Grimes family, Kilmaine. Advice please
Post by: aghadowey on Sunday 15 August 10 10:05 BST (UK)
Can you post the section with the place names here so we can try to help? (small portion of certificate allowed for deciphering purposes)
Title: Re: Grimes family, Kilmaine. Advice please
Post by: mayojoe123 on Thursday 19 August 10 02:20 BST (UK)
Here is a copy of the place names from the marriage cert thanks
Title: Re: Grimes family, Kilmaine. Advice please
Post by: nell1850 on Tuesday 24 August 10 10:26 BST (UK)
MayoJoe very kindly sent me the whole marriage cert so I know that Edward's parents were Michael and Cath.
I may have found the parents on the 1901 census
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Mayo/Kilgarvan/Bunnyconnellan/1572616/

The location doesn't help with the word on the marriage cert which I thought might have been a corruption of Ballyvary but is this anywhere near Kilgarvan?  :-\

Pretty certain that Anna Gibbons' birthplace is Kilmaine but still no birth/baptism record for her.......
Title: Re: Grimes family, Kilmaine. Advice please
Post by: mayojoe123 on Tuesday 24 August 10 14:35 BST (UK)
I was able to contact the person that posted the Fitzmaurice family tree (link to tree is in previous message). Unfortunately they had no info on Anna Grimes Gibbons. You may have found fitzmaurice on 1901 census. The fitzmaurice tree lists a child Elizabeth, could be Lizzie. I can't find descendants of Gibbons. I applied her death cert but was denied. I need to prove I'm related. I will keep digging.
Title: Re: Grimes family, Kilmaine. Advice please
Post by: heywood on Tuesday 24 August 10 17:21 BST (UK)
Hi again,

I know the Fitzmaurices are not directly involved but here they are in 1911 http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Mayo/Kilgarvin/Bunnyconnellan_West/700545/

and here is a cemetery entry for Michael. http://www.cmcrp.net/static/listcem.php?t=Mayo
Title: Re: Grimes family, Kilmaine. Advice please
Post by: nell1850 on Tuesday 24 August 10 21:09 BST (UK)
Thank you Heywood
Title: Re: Grimes family, Kilmaine. Advice please
Post by: heywood on Tuesday 24 August 10 22:07 BST (UK)
I am just trying to make sense of the thread (or rather the information)

Is this right- there are two sets of children (possibly) James Grimes/Mary Duddy and John Grimes/Biddy Duddy?
Both of these have a Sarah - within a few years?

Do you have Sarah's emigration?
Ellis Island has a Sarah Grimes 20 yrs in 1893 emigrating to New York.
The entry above her is Bridget Walsh 21 yrs but this could be just coincidence and also she is going to Brooklyn and she wouldn't be a widow.  ::)

Title: Re: Grimes family, Kilmaine. Advice please
Post by: nell1850 on Wednesday 25 August 10 12:35 BST (UK)
Hello Heywood - sometimes I struggle to hang on to this thread!

John Grimes and Bridget (Biddy) Duddy had a number of children including Sarah. I am aware of James Grimes and Mary Duddy as they tend to appear as sponsors on family baptism records but I haven't put any time into investigating them.
Sarah Grimes went to the USA and married O'Day or Oday. The reason why it's thought she is related to Bridget Walsh is that MayoJoe123 found that they were buried together and Bridget's death cert says that her parents are John Grimes and Bridget Duddy. Sarah also shared an address in Brooklyn with Bridget (info from death cert not census), confirmed by MayoJoe as the family home.
We have not been able to find Bridget on the New York census in Brooklyn. I found a Bridget Walsh living in the Bronx, her dates fit and she had married at 19 (ie before emigrating) but we're not sure it's her.
The story is further confused because MayoJoe has provided good evidence that there was another sister Anna (or Annie) who married John Gibbons and then Edward Fitzmaurice. This 2nd marriage cert gives John Grimes and Bridget Duddy as her parents.
We can find no trace of either Bridget or Anna in Coolisduff, Kilmaine. I keep going back to my very first posting here about Sabina Grimes (did she exist? Sabina = Anna?) but I'm clutching at straws.

Sorry - modified to add Thank you we have Sarah's passenger record.
Title: Re: Grimes family, Kilmaine. Advice please
Post by: heywood on Wednesday 25 August 10 17:44 BST (UK)
Thanks for the further explanation - you have answered a couple of queries e.g. I wondered whether there was any evidence in USA censuses re the three sisters - Bridget/Sarah and Anna. That is quite unusual I think usually Anne/Annie or Hannah.
I also wanted to ensure that both you and MayoJoe were talking about the same person after her emigration.

 :) heywood

I have just searched 1920 US census index- sorry I know very little re New Jersey. There appears to be an Edward Fitzmaurice b c 1870 and Anna Fitzmaurice b 1872 in Union county. There is a Mary too b 1900 who is not mentioned on that Family Tree  :-\

I looked on google maps and Elizabeth (where they married) is in that county I think.
I am not able to access the site otherwise.
Title: Re: Grimes family, Kilmaine. Advice please
Post by: mayojoe123 on Wednesday 25 August 10 19:34 BST (UK)
Hi,  regarding Bridget Walsh, we assume since she is burried in her sister Sarah Grimes and brother in law Thomas O'Day plot and no other immediate family that she came to the states as a widow.

I found on mayo ancestors that a Biddy grimes married a John Walsh in 1873. Bridget's death cert does not give her spouses name. The age doesn't match up either but they usually never do. I am not sure if I am on to something there

there doesn't seem to be a civil record just church record.  I had no luck looking for a John Walsh death cert.

Is there a way to check brides parents names for marriage records.
Thanks
Title: Re: Grimes family, Kilmaine. Advice please
Post by: heywood on Wednesday 25 August 10 20:39 BST (UK)
As far as I am aware, the only way to get bride's parents names, and then it would only be the father, is through the certificate and parish record. Some parish records are published online I think.
I looked on family search pilot and there is a Bridget Grimes marriage 1892 and I tried (it's quite laborious) to match her to a Walsh. The only one which seemed a possible was not the right page reference :(
She may have married in USA.
I was interested in that  1920 census for Fitzmaurice because I thought it may give you information re parents/year of birth/ year of entry to USA but not sure which censuses contain what information.
Title: Re: Grimes family, Kilmaine. Advice please
Post by: nell1850 on Wednesday 25 August 10 20:57 BST (UK)
Hello Heywood
Yes the 1920 census for Anna Fitzmaurice is quite helpful. It gives her birth year 1872, her emigration year 1887 and confirms that her parents were born in Ireland.
Title: Re: Grimes family, Kilmaine. Advice please
Post by: heywood on Wednesday 25 August 10 21:00 BST (UK)
Thanks  :)

I was just looking at family search pilot- there is an Honor Grimes b 1869 Ballinrobe district wondering if Honor/Anna could be mistaken for each other.
Usually, it would be Nora from Honora but who knows?
Title: Re: Grimes family, Kilmaine. Advice please
Post by: nell1850 on Wednesday 25 August 10 22:31 BST (UK)
Yes, Honor Grimes is another sister, born 20th Oct 1869. You're right, it would normally be Nora for Honor. I have no trace of Honor at all after her birth and I hadn't considered it but Honor/Anna do sound quite similar. Maybe you're on to something  :)
Title: Re: Grimes family, Kilmaine. Advice please
Post by: McNicholas on Tuesday 01 March 11 18:33 GMT (UK)
While researching my McNicholas family in Crimlin, about 3 miles west of Castlebar,Turlough Parish, i came across an essay by a Delia Grimes. The essay mentions the families living in Crimlin around 1937/38. Out of 23 houses 6 are Grimes family houses.
If you google: 'pictures of crimlin mayo' and click on the first images there are letters on there from Delia.
Hope this is of interest.
Title: Re: Grimes family, Kilmaine. Advice please
Post by: nell1850 on Tuesday 01 March 11 22:48 GMT (UK)
While researching my McNicholas family in Crimlin, about 3 miles west of Castlebar,Turlough Parish, i came across an essay by a Delia Grimes. The essay mentions the families living in Crimlin around 1937/38. Out of 23 houses 6 are Grimes family houses.
If you google: 'pictures of crimlin mayo' and click on the first images there are letters on there from Delia.
Hope this is of interest.
Thanks for your interest. Crimlin is some distance from Kilmaine so it's doubtful that this Grimes family is related. As I'm sure you've discovered, it's quite a common name in those parts!
Title: Re: Grimes family, Kilmaine. Advice please
Post by: Dana Angle on Thursday 28 April 11 23:52 BST (UK)
My grandmother was named Mary Grimes. She was from county Mayo in Ireland. She migrated to the US in the early 1900's. I am looking for geneology of her family. My dad had three sisters and one brother. She married Allen Angle(son of Irving Angle and Francis Van Aulken) in Layton, New Jersey. My dad was the third born to Mary in 1917, so she may have been in early twenties when she gave birth to my dad. That would mean that Mary was born in county Mayo, maybe around 1895? Does anyone have any info on where she was from or who her parents were? Was her dad named Michael?

Dana Angle
Title: Re: Grimes family, Kilmaine. Advice please
Post by: aghadowey on Friday 29 April 11 00:11 BST (UK)
Welcome to Roostchat, Dana. Probably best to get more details about Mary Grimes before trying to find her in Irish records such as civil registration list, 1901 census, etc.

To narrow down her age a bit you can search for her in U.S. census records (probably there 1910?, 1920, 1930)-
https://www.familysearch.org/#form=advanced-records

If she lived in New Jersey there's a good chance she arrived via Ellis Island- see www.ellisisland.org to see passenger manifests (should list name and address of nearest relative in U.K.).

Once you have a better idea of her age and perhaps a place and relative's name you can see if she was still in Ireland in 1901 (and 1911)-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search
Title: Re: Grimes family, Kilmaine. Advice please
Post by: nell1850 on Friday 29 April 11 18:34 BST (UK)
My grandmother was named Mary Grimes. She was from county Mayo in Ireland. She migrated to the US in the early 1900's. I am looking for geneology of her family. My dad had three sisters and one brother. She married Allen Angle(son of Irving Angle and Francis Van Aulken) in Layton, New Jersey. My dad was the third born to Mary in 1917, so she may have been in early twenties when she gave birth to my dad. That would mean that Mary was born in county Mayo, maybe around 1895? Does anyone have any info on where she was from or who her parents were? Was her dad named Michael?

Dana Angle

Hello Dana
This thread started with an enquiry regarding my greatgrandmother Mary Grimes's siblings. Mary had a brother Michael, who had a daughter called Mary, born 1898. I suspect this Mary is too young to be your grandmother from the information you've provided so it could be a gigantic red herring. If you look on the 1901 census you'll see that there are over 20 Mary Grimes in Mayo. The family in Ballytrasna is of interest to me as this is near my Grimes family in Coolisduff but I need to research a bit more to find a link. I still have lots to research here so if I discover anything useful I'll let you know. Good luck!

http://www.rootschat.com/links/0czv/
Title: Re: Grimes family, Kilmaine. Advice please
Post by: rdooley1847 on Wednesday 06 May 15 19:10 BST (UK)
Hello Nell!

I know this is older thread but will give it a shot!

My mother Bridget Duddy was born in Coolisduff, Co. Mayo, Ireland.  Her parents were Peter DUDDY (1870-1937) and Julia LOFTUS (1835-1936).

Peter Duddy's parents were James DUDDY (1835-1894) and Mary HENEGHAN (1840-1911) they were married at Partry, Co. Mayo, Ireland in 1865

Julia Loftus's parents were Michael LOFTUS(1837-1894) of Ballymartin, Kilmaine and Honor GRIMES/GRYMES of unknown location or marriage.

I came across this thread because of a autosomal match (2nd-4th Cousin) with a MEEHAN.  DNA test was through FTDNA.  There was no information in his FTDNA account, but I did notice your Surnames here. 

Possible cousins??

Robert

Title: Re: Grimes family, Kilmaine. Advice please
Post by: nell1850 on Thursday 07 May 15 12:38 BST (UK)
Hello Nell!

I know this is older thread but will give it a shot!

My mother Bridget Duddy was born in Coolisduff, Co. Mayo, Ireland.  Her parents were Peter DUDDY (1870-1937) and Julia LOFTUS (1835-1936).

Peter Duddy's parents were James DUDDY (1835-1894) and Mary HENEGHAN (1840-1911) they were married at Partry, Co. Mayo, Ireland in 1865

Julia Loftus's parents were Michael LOFTUS(1837-1894) of Ballymartin, Kilmaine and Honor GRIMES/GRYMES of unknown location or marriage.

I came across this thread because of a autosomal match (2nd-4th Cousin) with a MEEHAN.  DNA test was through FTDNA.  There was no information in his FTDNA account, but I did notice your Surnames here. 

Possible cousins??

Robert

Hello Robert
Isn't it amazing what pops up on Rootschat after all this time?! Yes, I think we probably are cousins. Pleased to meet you!

I am aware of the Duddy/Loftus names but have never had the evidence to link them to my tree beyond doubt. Certainly lots to explore here. I'll find some time over the weekend to re-visit this and perhaps we can make contact? You do need to post three messages on Rootschat before we can contact each other using the private email facility.

Best wishes
Nell
Title: Re: Grimes family, Kilmaine. Advice please
Post by: rdooley1847 on Friday 08 May 15 11:31 BST (UK)
Nell,

Have been doing a bit of digging here on my end.  Have an obit that I will send your way.  It is of Michael Duddy who passed in 1931.
Title: Re: Grimes family, Kilmaine. Advice please
Post by: rdooley1847 on Friday 08 May 15 11:34 BST (UK)
Nell,

How does your MEEHAN fit into this family?

Robert
Title: Re: Grimes family, Kilmaine. Advice please
Post by: nell1850 on Saturday 09 May 15 08:11 BST (UK)
Nell,

How does your MEEHAN fit into this family?

Robert

Hi Robert
Thanks for the Duddy obit  - some familiar names mentioned in it. I will contact you to explain the Meehan link. I'm really busy today but I will be in touch.
Best wishes
Title: Re: Grimes family, Kilmaine. Advice please
Post by: nell1850 on Monday 11 May 15 07:53 BST (UK)
Robert
I have sent you a private message. Look forward to hearing from you in due course.
Nell