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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Hertfordshire => Topic started by: rpweedon on Sunday 27 December 09 12:03 GMT (UK)
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I have extensive Weedon family history arising from over 30 years research. My focus has been Herts, Bucks and London. Willing to consult my records for anyone with a specific detailed request.
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Hi my aunt,Elsie Lilian Daniels married George William Weedon 25 Nov 1939 in Hitchin. George was 24 at the time. I believe the marriage later failed. Do you have any link to the Weedon's in Hitchin and do you know if in fact they, Elsie & George, divorced?
Regards,Keith. Australia.
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Sorry, unable to help you on this one.
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Hi
I am only just started researching the Weedon Family after being given information on them. I have a Joseph Weedon who married 1767 St Leonards Middlesex Eleanor Bird. Their daughter Eleanor Weedon married John Elston at St Marys Islington in 1800.
Cheers Deb Robinson
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No connection with me ... but I have a lot of other Weedon family trees to consult. What is it that you want assistance on?
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William Francis Weedon born abt 1850 lived in Hitchen, Hertfordshire with his wife Lydia Charlotte Weedon (nee Sherlock) a widow (lst married name Roe). They married in Ilford, Romford Essex in 1886. I have a photo of them in 1921 & also their house(not attached at this time). Unable to confirm them in 1891, 1901 & 1911 census. Any help wld be much appreciated.
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Alas, no connection here either! With apologies.
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Thank you anyway.
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Hi I have a Jane Weeden b abt 1762 kings langley herts married to richard timberlake , father thomas she is my wifes 4th great grandmother anything on this line of weedens would be useful.
regards alan
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Hello Alan,
A Thomas Weedon appears in the Herts Militia lists from 1758 to 1763 noted as a labourer from Kings Langley with 5 children by 1763. Cannot find record of his marriage to Jane's mother. Does this help at all?
Peter
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JANE was Christened 29 Aug 1762 KL, to THOMAS/SUSANNA
There was a MARY to them in KL, 07 June 1752 and a possible THOMAS, 29 Sept 1754 in Aldenham.
(Source Familysearch.Org)
IGI has a Submitted Marriage of Tho WEEDON and Sus HOWARD, 03 Oct 1747, Kings Langley, Herts.
Unable to confirm this.
Trish :)
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Thomas WEEDEN Married Susannah HOWARD 1747, Kings Langley, Herts
(Familysearch.Org)
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Hi Trish & Peter thanks for the info every bit helps.
thanks alan
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In early records of my Weedon/Weeden family the use of an O or E seems interchangeable, but eventually settles on the E version. So can I ask about my Weeden/on family?
I am trying to find the origins of William Weedon/en and his wife Sarah?
I have found that there are several marriages in the IGI that could potentially be them, one that I feel could be them is a William Weedon (Weden) who married a Sarah Bradley in Aldenham Hertford on 30 Apr 1808. There seem to be a lot of Weedon's in the area of Aldenham, Abbots Langley and Kings Langley, and some of them are on Archive records as being "Waggoner's". Which would fit with my William being a Groom, Stable Master and Coach Proprietor.
Here is a summary of records I have.
William Weeden (Weedon) born around 1780 to 86 in England.
Married Sarah ?? (born around 1776-81) and had two children that we know of;-
3 MAY 1820; baptized in Melton Mowbray, Leicestershire.
Jemima Thomasina, daughter of William and Sarah WEEDON.
Parents abode;- Sysonby in this Parish.
Fathers trade- Groom.
3 July 1823. baptized Tardebigge Worchestershire.
William, son of William and Sarah WEEDEN. [parents abode]- Tutnell. Tardebigg, Worcestershire, England [Fathers profession]- Master of the Earl of Plymouth's stables.
Both these children married in Middlesex, William in 1842 and Jemima in 1851. On both marriage records the fathers profession is listed as "Coach Proprietor"
I have just recently confirmed that he did indeed run "The Age" fast coach service between London and Brighton in the early 1830's.
1841 Census lists them in Brighton.
Western Road Brighton.
William Weeden age 55, Coach Proprietor, not born in Sussex
Sarah Weeden age 50, not born in Sussex.
William Weeden, age 15, Clerk. Not born in Sussex.
Cannot find any of them (except Jemima, now surnamed Bryant) in the 1851 census.
Any comments appreciated.
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Looking for a marriage between Ruth Weedon bp. 9 May 1824 Caxton, Cambs, daughter of James & Elizabeth Weedon, and William Toms of St Stephen, St Albans in about 1846. She died in 1867 in St Albans. The Weedon family were living in Hertfordshire in 1841.
:) Thanks.
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Hi
1846 Sep St Albans 6 655
William Toms / Ruth Weedon
Looks like they were "neighbours" in 1841 (2 pages apart in the census return)
HO107 439 4 41 Pages 4 & 7
St Stephens, District 14, Page(pair) 2 (William) & 4 (Ruth)
Although everyone is marked as "Born in County"
Ray
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Thank you Ray
I hadn't realised that they lived so close together although I knew it was St Albans. However, I have not found a marriage for them.
Their first child Emma was my great grandmother and she was baptised in 1848.
Delta
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I have traced my Weedon's back to Joseph (abt 1757-1827) who married Mary Davies 28 Mar 1779 at St Giles Cripplegate. Joseph's siblings include John (d. 1790 of small pox), George (settled in Uxbridge), and two unmarried sisters Mary Ann and Patience/Patricia who were alive to witness Joseph's will in 1827.
Who are their parents? Family stories claim their father had a large family by his first marriage in Buckinghamshire and then came to London and had these children by his second wife, Mary Howard.
She was of a non-conformist church. Joseph was a habardasher, later generations were drapers and lace merchants.
Any connections to your Weedons? Would also appreciate suggestions for searching pre-1800 Bucks/Middlesex from "across the pond" (Illinois USA)
Amy
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I have traced my Weedon's back to Joseph (abt 1757-1827) who married Mary Davies 28 Mar 1779 at St Giles Cripplegate. Joseph's siblings include John (d. 1790 of small pox), George (settled in Uxbridge), and two unmarried sisters Mary Ann and Patience/Patricia who were alive to witness Joseph's will in 1827.
Who are their parents? Family stories claim their father had a large family by his first marriage in Buckinghamshire and then came to London and had these children by his second wife, Mary Howard.
She was of a non-conformist church. Joseph was a habardasher, later generations were drapers and lace merchants.
Any connections to your Weedons? Would also appreciate suggestions for searching pre-1800 Bucks/Middlesex from "across the pond" (Illinois USA)
Amy
Sorry, but I don't think I can help. My Weedons came from St Albans, Hertfordshire although a couple of their children appear to have been born in Cambridge!! However, I think James' parents were probably John Weedon (1749-1828) and Mary Allen (1754-1798) who were married in Hertfordshire in 1774.
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Hi Amy,
No readily apparent relationship to my tree. The Weedon 'clan' concentrated in the area around Watford - Rickmansworth - Chalfont St Peter - Chesham - Amersham in the 1500 - 1600s. I have extensive holdings of translated wills for that period. They were predominantly husbandmen - farmers. Many were Quakers. By the end of the 1700s they were developing new skills / trades and moving to London. My line were cordwainers (shoemakers) for several generations and then copper plate printing. Some Weedons left the area in the 1700s and were involved in the draper - tailoring trade so I am not surprising by your Joseph Weedon findings.
I use the traditional online resources to conduct my research with the odd trip to the National Archives in London whenever needed. I live in Jersey in the Channel Islands. Happy to help with your quest.
I have located the death record of Joseph Weedon buried September 7, 1827 aged 70 in Finsbury St. Luke, Islington, London. Joseph married, by licence, Mary Davies on March 23, 1779; he from the parish of St. Mary le Bow, batchelor and she, a spinster, living in St Giles without Cripplegate. Witnesses were Sam Wood and William Walter.
There is one record of birth for a Joseph Weedon on suitable date:
Joseph Weedon baptised August 1, 1756 at St Mary, Harrow
parents John Weedon and Mary Weedon of Wombley (?)
I found the baptism of John Weedon recorded in St Botolph, Bishopsgate on December 5, 1736 son of William Weedon and Jane. It is highly probable that this is your Joseph's father, John.
A William Weedon was christened in Kings Langley in March 1713, son of William Weedon. This could be your Joseph's grandfather, William. Kings Langley is not far from the Watford - Rickmansworth area from whence came many Weedons.
I can send you copies of the parish records directly, should they be of interest.
Do you have any living Weedon males in your family? I wonder if their DNA matches mine? I have located several Weedons linked to my family tree using DNA matching.
Regards,
R. Peter Weedon
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Hi
I am sure this is a long shot but I wonder if you perhaps have any information relating to my WEEDON ancestors among your Hertfordshire WEEDON/ WEEDEN research. I have been trying to find more details regarding my 2 x great grandmother SARAH ANN WEEDON b. 1845 [6]Rickmansworth, Hertfordshire.
I am still unable to confirm her birth or who her parents could be [after several unsuccessful years of trying]. I am also unable to find any evidence relating what happened to her after her marriage to GEORGE BIRCH [b. St Pancras 1838] Bushey, Hertfordshire 1872.
The only information I can confirm:-
[Children x 2]
1. 1864 - HERBERT HENRY WEEDON [my g grandfather] was born in Watford Union Workhouse [father not named on the bc]
2. 1868 - THOMAS FREDERICK WEEDON also born in the Watford Union Workhouse - name of father not given but his later baptism recorded him as Thomas Frederick Birch [so possibly George Birch was in fact the father of Thomas]
3. 1871 Census - Sarah is recorded as housekeeper, 227 High Street, Watford with her children, GEORGE BIRCH and his children [from previous marriage to MARY ANN BENNETT], GEORGE 11 & WILLIAM 10.
4. 1872 [17th March] marriage to GEORGE BIRCH, Witnesses CHARLOTTE MONK & THOMAS VALE. Sarah's father is recorded as HENRY WEEDON a Tailor. George's father is recorded as GEORGE BIRCH, a shoemaker.
5. 1865 Watford Newspaper reported Court of Petty Sessions that WILLIAM BAKER NEWTON is accused of being father of Herbert Henry.
6. Unable to find any of the family in the 1881 census but both Herbert and Thomas were apprenticed fishermen in Grimsby Lincolnshire 1883 where the family settled.
I am unable to find any further details or deaths for Sarah or George.
There seem to be many links and marriages between the Birch's and Weedon's over several generations. [one branch in South Africa/ Rhodesia]
I found one bc for a FEMALE WEEDON 26th August 1845 Watford Union, Rickmansworth with mother recorded as CAROLINE WEEDON and again no father.
Its driving me mad so any suggestions would be very much appreciated. I am nevertheless prepared for further blanks as I have a feeling some of the facts may have been 'misrepresented' in the first place.
Best wishes
Steph
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Further to previous message - related Birch family were originally from Chesham.
Many thanks
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Hi Steph,
I will have a good look. Undoubtedly we are related somewhere in the distant past. Do you have any living male Weedon relatives? I have connected with some Weedon relatives by way of DNA matching. Always looking for more using this method. I would be happy to speak to you offline about my Weedon research embodied in a 150 page report.
R. Peter Weedon
Jersey, Channel Islands
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Steph,
The 1871 census shows Sarah Weedon as a widow which suggests her maiden name may not have been Weedon. Perhaps Weedon was her married name in 1871. Thoughts?
Peter
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Steph
Herbert Henry Weedon's December 1887 marriage in Great Grimsby to Mary Jane Witty suggests his father's name was George Weedon - possibly referring to his step father George? Comments?
Peter
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Steph,
Did Herbert Weedon die in 1898 in Epsom Surrey age 33?
Peter
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Hi Peter,
Thank you so much for such quick response.
I was so pleased to hear from you with some further thoughts on my Weedons. I would love to learn more from your research even if nothing to do with my particular Weedons. I would find it very interesting anyway.
I know what you mean about the 1871 census with Sarah described as widow - but to be brutal, I think Sarah must have lied. Sarah Anne is described later as spinster on the mc to George Birch, but likewise George is described as a bachelor which was not the case. I am unable to find a death certificate or divorce details for his previous marriage.
I found an article via the The National British Newspaper Archive that related to Sarah Anne Weedon's 'illegitimate' child, Herbert Henry Weedon b. 24th December 1864.
Herbert's mc foxed me with George Weedon, Wood Turner documented as father but I think this describes George Birch as you thought.
Thomas Weedon married Catherine Manthorpe in 1890. The mc documents father as --- Weedon [no first name given][deceased] and again 'Wood Turner' so probably referring to George but who knows. All these fibs!
Herbert Henry Weedon died Dec 1937 still in Grimsby Lincolnshire. Poor Thomas drowned at sea when his boat, the Chilion hit Filey Brigg and sank - April 1894. He left a son, William Thomas Weedon, 18mths old. William interestingly [and sadly], also died at sea in 1941 [Navy]
My maiden name is Weeden. Herbert Henry's children all seem to have started to spell their surname as Weeden instead of Weedon, including my grandfather Fred Weeden.
I have 2 brothers and 3 nephews with Weeden surname but there are numerous Weedens in Grimsby Lincolnshire area - no doubt related to me via Herbert [who had 4 boys and 3 girls] and Thomas. [one of my nephews is on the famous Weeden's list if you google the surname]
Peter - I am not sure how to go about off line communication. I did register with Rootschat so my email is available via this forum. If you wouldn't mind informing me how I go about letting you have this, I would love to hear more when you have the time. I really appreciate it - thank you again, although I wouldn't wish to give you the headache I have with this branch of the family, who have obviously done such a marvellous job at hiding the truth. It is unfortunately my direct line and of most interest to me.
Best wishes
Steph
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Steph,
BINGO!?
I have found a Caroline Weedon aged 15 in the 1841 census in Rickmansworth residing at Water Lane and quite probably the mother of the female child born in 1845 in the Rickmansworth Workhouse. Caroline is living with Elizabeth Weedon, 55, rag cutter, (probably her mother) in the home of the Thomas Birch family. Thomas, a brewery labourer, and Martha, his wife, are in their mid 40s and have 4 children.
Is this of any help?
Peter
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Hi
I wonder if by any chance this could be your Herbert Henry in the 1881 RG11/1435/18/page 4.
Under the name of Harry Weedon aged 16 born Watford staying with William Baddams & his wife Eliza at Clay Hill Bushey, there is also a Thomas Weedon aged 12 born Watford a pupil in Watford Workhouse, RG11/1439/100/page 3 who could be a possibility. I see from your tree that you have most probably located George Birch in South Stoneham Hampshire for the 1881 so if the 2 boys are correct where is Sarah. :-\
With regard to the Caroline Weedon that Peter has found I believe she married a James Swain in Chorleywood 1847 & on subsequent census states born Somerset & although I would agree that she does seem a likely candidate for the mother of the unnamed baby in 1845 unfortunately there isn't a 5/6 year old child with the Swains on the 1851 & looking again at Free BMD there is also a death registered in the Sept qtr 1845 Watford for an unnamed Weedon that could be the same child. :'(
Not sure if any of this is a help but I'll keep trying. ::)
Maddie
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Maddie,
All good detective work, but I think the Birch link carries weight.
Peter
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I do agree Peter that the Birch family next door to Elizabeth & Caroline Weedon look interesting & are worth a little more investigation to confirm they are of the same family as Sarah Ann's husband George Birch. I see from the 1851 that Thomas Birch was born Bovingdon & Martha Chesham so they could be.
Maddie
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Awe! Thanks Peter.
Caroline and Elizabeth sound a possibility and worth finding out more if I can - and another Birch connection of course. A history of illegitimacy appears a pattern though.
My father would have been mortified, he was convinced the Weedons came from some aristocratic line but he died before I got this far [which isn't too far] I would just love to find out who they were regardless.
It is so fabulous to have some help thanks
Steph
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Hi Maddie,
Grateful for your help.
I had wondered if the Harry Birch could be Herbert in the 1881 census and Thomas is certainly the correct correct age for the workhouse Thomas Weedon. Sarah Ann could have died before the 1881 census I suppose but who knows - maybe George cleared off to Hampshire and left her to it.
Family legend has it that the 2 brothers walked to Grimsby from Watford [reported in the story as 'London' and 3 brothers but near enough] according to my grandmother. They both became apprenticed fishermen 1883. No sign of Sarah and seems likely that she was no longer alive unless she was the one that abandoned them all.
The swains are interesting candidates - I just cant find a Sarah in the 1851 census to account for her in any family. Perhaps Mr Swain didn't want her though. Could she be in the workhouse or with grandma? I also wondered if inmates not included in all the census.
If the child death you found was in fact the 1845 female birth - back to the drawing board!
I will try and connect the Thomas Birch and Martha from Chesham. I am really grateful to have a new line to research. I just kept going round in circles getting no where.
You have both given me a spurt to keep going
Thanks so much
Steph
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Steph,
More information to whet the appetite and keep you engaged.
Joseph Weedon, Quaker, tailor, of Rickmansworth first married Elizabeth Birch a widow November 12, 1696. He later married Mary Mowridge (or Moggridge) daughter of Robert and Mary Biggs of Beaconsfield on August 12, 1718. Joseph's will was dated August 12, 1732. Joseph was the son of David Weedon also of Rickmansworth.
Peter
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Hi Steph
As Peter says there are a lot of records for Weedons in Ricky & the surrounding area particularly the Rickmansworth Militia list prior to 1800, which makes it even more strange that there is nothing for your Sarah Ann.
If it wasn't for that darned death of the unnamed Weedon same qtr 1845 I would have also plumped for Caroline being her mother. Presumably the death was for an infant as it's unnamed but I can't see a burial on my disc to correspond for more info, albeit if the burial took place in the Workhouse cemetery it may not have been transcribed.
By the looks of it Caroline's parents Elizabeth & John had both died before her marriage to James Swain so no maternal grandparents to look after an extra child. Where Sarah is in the 1851 remains a mystery & yet she is easily found in the 1861. ???
I can quite believe your Herbert & Thomas walked to Grimsby, they could have picked up the Great North Road/ Ermine Street & followed it straight to the South side of the Humber. :D Well done them. ;)
I shall be back to report any new evidence should I find it. :)
Maddie
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Hi Peter
Many thanks for that further link of Joseph Weedon marrying Elizabeth Birch 1696. That's another Weedon / Birch Link Brilliant! I feel sure once I have got beyond Sarah Weedon, if at all possible, it becomes more interesting.
As Maddie uncovered a death for infant Weedon in same year as my Sarah Weedon possible birth , naming Caroline as mother, I may have to go back to the only information provided, i.e mc to George Birch, where it states father as Henry Weedon a Tailor. Trouble is, so much deception, it has made me sceptical!
I opted for Henry Weedon [Rickmansworth b.1798] son of William Weedon [b. 1767 m.to Mary Marshall] because he was the only Weedon found to be a tailor. [I know not very concrete] He married twice but I wondered if he could have had a 3rd marriage somewhere to account for the birth of Sarah Ann. [It was early days into my research] I realise doubtful now!
Thanks Peter - it is good of you to help
Steph
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Wow Maddie, - That is the first time it was made clear how Herbert and Thomas walked to Grimsby. That makes sense now.
So funny remembering all that was said to me as a child, when I was only vaguely listening - if only I could go back and ask them further stuff and share with them what I have found.
I am sure there must be family links to the Carolyn, Elizabeth & John Weedon family but I suppose Sarah could be with a family and mis-transcribed in the 1851 census with the surname of head instead of Weedon. This is the problem and the fact they were all trying to hide skeletons.
It is very kind of you to help
Thanks
Steph
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Hi Steph
I think I might have found Sarah but it sounds complicated. :)
You mentioned Henry Weedon, Tailor, in last but one post so I checked him out on the 1841. You probably know that he is living on Chorleywood Common with children Jane, Ann, Henry & Margaret, he is an Ag lab. Living with him is a Jane Walden with her children, Stephen 10, Mary 5 & Jane 1, only Jane born in county. Henry can then be found in the 1851 as a lodger now a Tailor in the household of William Saunders still Chorleywood & with him is a Stephen Walding aged 21. I am pretty sure this Stephen is the son of Jane Walden from 1841 census.
In 1851 in Watford Workhouse can be found Jane, Sarah, Benjamin & Daniel Walding, all these children were baptised at Chorleywood on the 25 Feb 1849 with the name Walden & all with the mother Jane Walden. (Family Search) I do believe these children were the offspring of Henry Weedon & Jane. :o
Twist is Jane Walden died in 1848 aged 38 in Chorleywood but I can expand on this in a PM.
I hope you can make sense of all that......... ;D
Maddie
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Maddie - You are so brilliant!
I can't believe how you have managed to see the connection to Jane Walden from the census by connecting Stephen Walden or Walding and the other children in the Watford workhouse. This has to be the nearest possibility I have seen in 3 years.
I am so thrilled! [although I'm not so thrilled with Henry - poor Jane!] I thought something like this scenario would be likely but I would never have seen it Maddie. Thank you so much
I am able to search these new lines rather than go round in circles with same stuff.
Best wishes
Steph :D
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You are welcome Steph, I'm pleased I could help. :D
A little bit of local knowledge seems to help me put two & two together. ;)
Looking at the census for the other children it seems as if they all used their birth name of Walden, sometimes indexed as Walder on Ancestry, only Sarah used the name Weedon, strange that. :-\ I certainly wouldn't put it passed Henry to have fathered Jane's children, he was rather prolific in that department with his two wives, wasn't he. :o
Please do shout if you find anything amongst the new lines that might need a little help & hopefully clarify that we have the correct family for your Sarah.
Added
Have you seen the death & burial on Ancestry for a Sarah Ann Birch, 9th Oct 1875 Wingham Kent, her age is given as 31, could this be Sarah. ???
Maddie :)
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thanks Maddie
I have seen a few deaths that could be Sarah but that one looks possible for sure - I will try to be more methodical now you have helped me move forward.
I wonder what Henry was like - rogue! :P
All best
Steph
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Hi,
I am also looking for help on the Weedon/Weeden family of Hertfordshire.
Specifically, Elizabeth Weeden married William Mead in Aldenham on 28 April 1745. They christened 8 children in Aldenham over the following years including Sarah in 1760 (date wrongly transcribed on FamilySearch and FindmyPast but clear on the image on FindMyPast). According to an inscription on the back of her portrait, this Sarah was my 4th gt grandmother. She married George Newenham, a wealthy Quaker from Cork in about 1778. According to a family diary, he was sent to London to meet a miss Pim with a view to marriage, but met and married miss Mead(e) instead. I don't know where or exactly when they married, but he was disowned by the Quakers on 22 Sept 1778 as a result.
So far as I can see, Elizabeth Weeden may have been christened in Rickmansworth in 1721 to parents Ralph Weeden and Mary Battman/Bateman who married in Aldenham in 1716. The same couple seem to have christened several children mostly in Rickmansworth with one (Richard 1719) in Aldenham. Ralph may have been christened in Aldenham on 5 April 1691 to parents Richard and Abigail, and Mary in Aldenham on 18 April 1690 to parents John and Elizabeth Bateman. I say may because I am far from sure about this - all I can see is parish records of people who might plausibly be the same. I can see trees on Ancestry giving Elizabeth's parents as Thomas Weeden and Hannah Windfield, but I can't find records to support this.
I would love to know more about this family, especially their social status, whether they really would have moved between Rickmansworth and Aldenham and how a wealthy Quaker visiting London might have got to know them (perhaps through the family's history in the Quakers).
Unfortunately, I can't see any wills or land records relating directly to these people, and the parish BDM records are rather uninformative.
I would be very grateful for any help or pointers.
Alan
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Hi
Have you looked at the HALS resources?
https://www.hertfordshire.gov.uk/ufs/ufsmain?ebz=2_1547848804346&ebd=0 (https://www.hertfordshire.gov.uk/ufs/ufsmain?ebz=2_1547848804346&ebd=0)
Lots of Weed?n and Mead.
Rickmansworth=Aldenham is a fairly easy "walk"
Rickm is a Penn/Quaker "origination" ( you probknow that )
Why not call Ricky museum?
Lots of very helpful people in the area ;D
Ray
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Thanks for some very useful comments and suggestions. I have just started looking at HALS and will let you know what I find.
Alan
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Hi
You might also try Bushey Museum.
Very helpful and a stone's throw away.
Ray
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Hi,
I have now had a chance to look through what I can find on HALS. The marriage records match what I had already found. Apart from them, I can't see anything that obviously relates directly to the members of the family that I am looking for.
The entries for the wills in particular are interesting, however, showing as they do that many members of the Weedon and Mead families in the area were labourers or husbandmen, some were shopkeepers or members of other trades and one or two were yeomen or gentlemen.
Working from the parish records, I have also traced a possible family tree for Elizabeth Weeden who married William Mead back a little further. As I wrote before, I think that her parents might have been Ralph Weeden and Mary Bateman who married in Aldenham in 1716. Ralph's parents might have been Richard Weeden and Abigail Wren(t)ch who married there in 1687 and her parents might have been Thomas Wren(t)ch and Abigail (Abygale) Luke who married in Aldenham in 1664. These two seem to have died in 1687 and 1704. I can see a record showing that administration of Thomas's will went to Abygale, and I can see an Canterbury will for Abygale. This is a little annoying in that it mentions her daughter Abigail but not the first or family name of her husband, so it doesn't entirely confirm the family relationship. The children and others mentioned in the will, however, match what I can see from the parish records. The Abygale leaving this will plainly had some money. How much she had is not clear, but she was more likely to have been the widow of a yeoman or tradesman than a husbandman.
I have yet to find any plausible leads about William Mead(e). If anyone out there has actively researched this family, then I would dearly like to make contact with you and get some pointers.
Alan
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Firstly On Topic, if it helps anybody, my school gym teacher 50 years ago, in North West London,, was George Weedon who was an Olympic gymnast in 1948. I was the weedy one in his class, but he must have done something right as I'm now 6 feet tall. Sadly he died 2 years ago.
Secondly, I have an Alan Watson on my list of DNA matches to contact. Is it likely to be you Alan?
Martin
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I am Gedmatch kit no M930572. The standard 1-1 match shows no common DNA segments.
Alan
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Do you have more information about William Mead in Aldenham?
I have quite a lot about Mead in Watford, from 1545 to mid-17th century.
https://sites.google.com/site/meadfamilyhistory/home/mead-in-watford
They also lived in Ridge and probably in Bishops Hatfield until about 1700.
https://sites.google.com/site/meadfamilyhistory/home/wills/herts/wills
Some of them had the unusual male name of Pricilla, which was rendered as Prissly, Tillius, Tilly, etc.
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Hi Vance,
Many thanks for pointing me to your interesting site. I note in particular that the 1637 will of Richard Meade baker of Rickmansworth mentions a Thomas Weedon as someone who had recently surrendered lands to him.
In answer to your question, I know next to nothing about the William Mead that I am interested in. He married Elizabeth Weeden in Aldenham in 1745 by banns and was described as 'of this parish'. He and his wife christened eight children there that I can see over the following 17 years and that is about it. I can't see a likely christening record for him or a likely burial record or will for him or his wife or any of his children. None of the parish records that I can see mentions an address or occupation.
Familysearch has his son William Mead (christened Aldenham 1747) marrying an Ann Collins in Rickmansworth in 1770 and having a family there. He would have been 22 at the time, making the date and place reasonable. Findmypast has an image of the marriage register. The marriage was by banns and both were described as 'of this parish'. What bothers me about this entry is that the bride and groom and one of the witnesses made a mark indicating that they couldn't sign their names. My 4th gt grandfather George Newenham was very well educated as affluent Quakers were. (He founded his own bank.) I find it slightly hard to believe that he would have married into a family the members of which could not sign their names.
Of course I might be wrong about this, but even if I am, I haven't found much else of interest about the family concerned.
The Abygale that I mentioned in an earlier post (possibly great grandmother of William Mead's wife Elizabeth Weeden) was plainly wealthier than many of the Meads in the wills that you have transcribed - her 1704 will disposes of a loan of £100 that she had made secured by a mortgage on property in Middlesex as well as a making a legacies of £50 in cash and what seems like a sizeable farm property. All this was before leaving the residue of her estate to her son.
Alan
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There was a wealthier Mead family in Soulbury and Stewkley, Bucks, some of whom were Quakers. They included William Mead, an early Quaker; his brother the Rev. Matthew Mead, a Nonconformist minister; and Matthew's son Dr. Richard Mead, physician to King George II.
https://sites.google.com/site/meadfamilyhistory/home/counties/bucks
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Many thanks for pointing me to this. This is the sort of Mead(e) family that I was expecting, which similar (or higher) social class and Quaker background might have led my George Newenham to. But although it is interesting, I don't for the moment see any link to the people in Aldenham, and most of the male lines seem to have run out before the date when William Mead who married in 1745 would have been born
So I am still scratching my head.
Thanks, though; most interesting.
Alan
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Here is a William Weedon, of Rickmansworth, in Common Pleas, Hilary term 1572:
London. William Bovyngton, of Kylborne, Middx, tilemaker, versus William Weedon, of Rickmansworthe, Herts, or of Harvill (Harefield), Middx, husbandman, for a debt of 20 pounds.
http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT5/Eliz/CP40no1300/bCP40no1300dorses/IMG_0896.htm
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Hi Vance,
Do you provide transcription services? In my family tree I have a William Weedon whose will dated 1594 mentions brother John Weedon of Harvil. William was described as 'of Rickmansworth'. I think your William and my William are one and the same. Thoughts?
Robert Peter Weedon
Ontario, Canada
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I think it's likely they are the same person.
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Will of William Weedon 1591 / probated(?) 1594
Stackers (Stockers was a farm in Rickmansworth [aka Batchworth]).
There is a Stockers Lake in Rickmansworth.
In the name of god amen the vth daye of Jannuary in the yeare of our
Lord 1591 I william weedon of Stackers in the p[a]rishe of
Rickmersworth in the Countye of Hertford yoman beinge
sicke of bodye but of good and perfit Remembrance
thankes be unto god do make this my last will and
testament in manner and forme followinge
first I bequeath my soule to Almightye god my maker
and redeemer and my bodye to be buried in the Churche
yarde of Rickmersworth
Item I Geve and bequeth unto my eldest sonne George
whom I make my full exsecutor all suche goodes corne
and cattels the whiche I the said William have nowe
in my Custodye and ocupations uppon this condition
that he the said George shall pay unto my other
ij sonnes William and Richard either of them xl li
thatis to say xl li to willm to be payd at the Age of xxij
yeares and unto Richard xl li to be payd at the age of
xxiij yeares more over my will is that yf Any of
my ij sonnes william and Richard do chaunce to dye
before this monnye be patd that then the exsecutor
and the other to devide that part betweine
them // Item I make my overseers of this my last will
and testament my brother Jhon weedon of Harvill and
for that I geve him x s Item I geive to the poore
people of Rickmersworth the some of x s
Witnesses to this will
George Noble the writer
wth others.