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Title: William Waugh .
Post by: tomk23 on Thursday 31 December 09 21:04 GMT (UK)
Any info on William Waugh , born 1817 ,died1899 Dooucanstyle , Dalswinton
                   Tom
Title: Re: William Waugh .
Post by: AMBLY on Thursday 31 December 09 23:31 GMT (UK)
Hi Tom

This must be him - with SHEARER being one of you main surnames?

1891: N0. 1 Dougan Style - Kirkmahoe Dumfrieshire
Parish 835 - ED 6, Page 3, HS 11
Head: William WAUGH 70, General Labourer, b Kirkmahoe, Dumfriesh.
Grand-Dau: Mary I SHEARER 13, Scholar, b Dumfries

http://www.geo.ed.ac.uk/scotgaz/parishes/parhistory1012.html

Cheers
AMBLY
Title: Re: William Waugh .
Post by: AMBLY on Friday 01 January 10 00:27 GMT (UK)
1881: 10 Dalwinton Village, Kirkmahoe, Dumfriesshire
Parish 835, ED 6, pg 5, HS 23
Head: William WAUGH 61, General Lab b Kirkmahoe
Wife: Mary WAUGH 59, general lab Wife, b Dryfesdale, Dumfriesshire
Grandaughter: Mary Jessie SHEARER 3, b Dumfries
Lodger: John NELSON 27, Sawyer, b Newabbey, Kirkcudbright

1871: Dalswinton Village, Kirkmahoe, Dumfriesshire
Parish 835, ED 6, Pg 10, HS 41
Head: William WAUGH 52, labourer, b Kirkmahoe
Wife: Mary WAUGH 51, b Dryssdale, Dumfriesshire

1861: Dalswinton Village West Side Of Street - Kirkmahoe, Dumfriesshire
Parish 835, ED 9 , Pg 2 , HS 6
Head: William WAUGH 42, b Kirkmahoe
Wife: Mary WAUGH 40, b Locherbie, Dumfriesshire
Son: William WAUGH 16, At Home, b Kirkmahoe
Dau: Mary WAUGH 14, At Home, b Kirkmahoe

1851: Craig  - Kirkmahoe, Dumfriesshire
Parish 835, ED 6 , Pg 4 , HS 10
Head: William WAUGH 33, labourer, b Kirkmahoe
Wife: Mary WAUGH 32, b Dryfesdal, Dumfries
Son: Samuel WAUGH 8, Scholar, b Kirkmahoe
Son: William WAUGH 6, At School, b Kirkmahoe
Dau: Mary WAUGH 5, At School, b Kirkmahoe
(see William Snr's  parents below in 1851 - looks to me as if they are next door to each other in 1851, and probably on the same farm estate).

http://www.freecen.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
1841: Dougan's Style , Kirkmahoe, Dumfriesshire
Parish 835, ED 6, Folio 6, Pg 5
William WAUGH 55, Overseer Dalswinton, b Dumfriesshire
Mary WAUGH 52, b Dumfriesshire
Elizabeth WAUGH 25, b Dumfriesshire
William WAUGH 20, Post, b Dumfriesshire

(Son Maxwell is serving his Masons Apprenticeship, at another address in Dumfriesshire 1841 - can find on FreeCEN)

Then his (William's) parents, William Snr & Mary in 1851 & 1861 - his mother appears to be maiden name Mary CHERRY:
1851: Dugan's Style - Kirkmahoe, Dumfriesshire
Parish 835, ED 6 , Pg 4 , HS 9
Head: William WAUGH 65, Overseer, b Kirkmahoe
Wife: Mary WAUGH 62, b Dunscore, Dumfreisshire
Son: Maxwell WAUGH 26, Mason, b Kirkmahoe
Grand-Dau: Mary McMURDO 16, House Servant, b Kirkmahoe

1861: Sand Bed Of Dalswinton - Kirkmahoe, Dumfriesshire
Parish: 835, ED 3, Pg 4, HS 11
Head: William WAUGH 75, Farmer of 104 Acres, b Kirkmahoe
Wife: Mary Cherry WAUGH 73, b Dunscore, Dumfriesshire
Son: Maxwell WAUGH 34, b Kirkmahoe
Servant: William BRYDEN 20, Ploughman, b Dunscore
Servant: Archibald SNEDDEN 16, Ploughman, b Torthorwald, Dumfriesshire
Servant: Agness STUARD? 18, General Servant, b Dumfries
Servant: Jessie STEEL 17, General Servant, b Kirkmichael, Dumfriesshire

1871: Sandbed, Kirkmahoe, Dumfriesshire
Parish:835, ED 3, pg 6 , HS 20
Head: Maxwell WAUGH 46, Farmer Of 100 Acres 80 Arable, b Kirkmahoe
Wife: Isabella WAUGH 44, Farfmers Wife, b Kirkerwell, Dumfrieshire
Servant: Elizabeth COUPLAND 16, General Servant, b Morton, Dumfrieshire
Servant: Mary HATSON? 15, general Servant, Hollowood, Dumfrieshire
Servant: Robert McRAY (McKAY??), 14, Farm Servant, b Hollowood, Dumfrieshire

Cheers
AMBLY
Title: Re: William Waugh .
Post by: tomk23 on Friday 01 January 10 01:03 GMT (UK)
Hi Ambly , thats really great far more than i expected , many thanks,
                very much appreciated ,
                                                         Tom
Title: Re: William Waugh .
Post by: JOA on Wednesday 28 April 10 03:50 BST (UK)
Hello Tom,
Your William Waugh is part of my larger Waugh family. My great grandfather who went to Canada was a first cousin.  I have some material on this family.
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=jowaugh&id=I0007

You are the first person I've found researching this family.
Are you related?
Joanna


Title: Re: William Waugh .
Post by: tomk23 on Wednesday 28 April 10 10:02 BST (UK)
Hello Joanna, Nice to hear from you, Yes i am related , the William Waugh i have here would have been my gt gt .
you are the first i have heard from , i live in Dumfries and it is a popular name here , would love to hear from you the info i have got is mostly what is on here .
                                                                            best regards tom,
Title: Re: William Waugh .
Post by: tomk23 on Wednesday 28 April 10 10:05 BST (UK)
Sorry missed the grand father out. tom
Title: Re: William Waugh .
Post by: JOA on Wednesday 28 April 10 13:57 BST (UK)
Hi TOm,
I can send you a file of my personal research if you want.  If you click on the link I sent, you can get my personal email address and we can exchange information directly. I can't send files through rootschat. 
I live in Hamilton, Ontario Canada
Hope to hear from you.
Joanna
Title: Re: William Waugh .
Post by: tomk23 on Wednesday 28 April 10 15:16 BST (UK)
Hello Joanne, Yes that would be great , i cant find the link you sent , u have to excuse me i am not the best of pc users , still learning but getting there , look forward to hearing from you ,
                                                                                      the very best tom
Title: Re: William Waugh .
Post by: JOA on Wednesday 28 April 10 15:37 BST (UK)
Here it is. It is a long link so if cut off, try to copy and paste.

http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=jowaugh&id=I0007

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Title: Re: William Waugh .
Post by: tomk23 on Thursday 29 April 10 23:32 BST (UK)
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Hello Joanne, I got your message , the moderator removed you email  ad , i did send an email but it was cut of, i saw you mentioned the burial , my w waugh was buried at Kirkmahoe with his wife , son in law wm shearer and w waugh daughter Mary , also wm Shearer s oldest daughter Mary Jessie , she died 1930 . 5 in the same grave , you probably know all this , its Wm Shearer ,s youngest daughter Elizabeth i cant find , i have got her in Dumfries up to 1910 then nothing 
             Yes i would like any info you have ,
                                           best regards Tom
Title: Re: William Waugh .
Post by: grendlsmother on Sunday 02 May 10 10:25 BST (UK)
Hi
I have a Jane/Jean Waugh born 1792, Closeburn, Dumfries (about 10 miles from Kirkmahoe).   She was my gggxgrandmother.  Of course the family name has changed many times since then, but I do have a tree for her showing siblings, parents etc (no documentary evidence other than IGI as the connection is quite remote).   Willing to share if you like.

Regards
Grendlsmom
Title: Re: William Waugh .
Post by: JOA on Sunday 09 May 10 21:30 BST (UK)
Hi,
Whom did she marry? Did she stay in Closeburn? 
Joanna 
Title: Re: William Waugh .
Post by: grendlsmother on Monday 10 May 10 18:15 BST (UK)
 She married James Hamilton around 1816.   They seem to have stayed around Closeburn/Dunscore area.   Some of the info I have came from a Hamilton researcher.   I cannot find a record of their marriage or children's births.   However, their daughter (my ggxgrandmother), Janet Hamilton's, death cert. names them as her parents and census gives her place of birth as Closeburn around 1827.   Jane Waugh died at, or shortly after Janet's birth (1827).    In 1841 James and his new wife, Margaret were farming at a place called Cample Bridge, Closeburn.   Jane Waugh's parents were John Waugh and Jean Scott (IGI).
Title: Re: William Waugh .
Post by: JOA on Tuesday 11 May 10 20:03 BST (UK)
HI,
Thanks for the information.
I have some of your names in some research I have. John waugh was born about 1762  . He was associated with Croalchapel in Closeburn and he died in 1827 at Longbank in Dunscore. He is named in the Service of Heirs and is buried in Closeburn Churchyard.  Jean scott was from Durrisdeer (Closeburn OPR). John Waugh and Jean Scott had at least 10 children.  From the Closeburn OPR:
Marrion b 1789
Grizle b 1790
Jean b 1792
Isobel b 1794
Marrion b 1796
Mary b 1798
Janet b 1800
John b 1802
James b 1804
Agnes b 1806.

In my line of Waughs, I can only go back to William Waugh (1746  to 1808). He married Mary Hiddleston.They  lived in Kirkmahoe and were associated with Forestrig. They are buried in Old Dunscore Cemetery.  The Kirkmahoe OPRs have large gaps in them so I haven't been able to find records for this family.  But I do know all the 3 sons (Robert, John, William) of William are accounted for so any connection if any to your Waughs would be before 1746.  (See tree url previous message).
Joanna
Title: Re: William Waugh .
Post by: grendlsmother on Wednesday 12 May 10 18:43 BST (UK)
Hi

Yes, that's the family.   I have looked at your tree but cannot make any obvious connection.   However, I will keep you in mind.

All the best.
Grendlsmom
Title: Re: William Waugh .
Post by: sarnia23 on Monday 02 May 11 21:43 BST (UK)
I am also related to the waughs my line refers to william waugh born 1817 kirkmahoe. I am in the process of removing all my documents from the computer and putting them into storage as i have no further desire to continue with family tree. i have lots of info certs cencus records i have also recieved photos of the waughs during there time at kirkmahoe if you would like this info please leave a personal message and i will be happy to forward copies to you

Sarnia
Title: Re: William Waugh .
Post by: JOA on Sunday 08 May 11 18:29 BST (UK)
Hello Sarnia,
How are you related?
I have the certificates and census but am very much interested in any photographs.

Joanna Waugh
Title: Re: William Waugh .
Post by: Kaggs on Saturday 25 October 14 18:18 BST (UK)
I have a connection with the Waugh family and Shearer on another side of the family. I have a bit on the Shearer Family as that was my Mother in-laws Family. So I am interested in William. Maxwell Waugh married Isabella Lees and they helped to bring up Isabella Agnes Jane Lees she was illegitimate born at Sandbed. She, took the name Waugh. Isabella Waugh was sister to Jane, Isabella, mother. When Maxwell died Isabella his wife was with Isabella her niece. My Isabella married William Mckie and Isabella Waugh was living with them in Kirkbean on a farm Their first child was called Maxwell.
Can you tell me if Maxwell and Isabell had any family of their own?

Kind Regard
Karen McKie
Title: Re: William Waugh .
Post by: JOA on Thursday 30 October 14 00:07 GMT (UK)
Hi Karen,
As far as I can tell Maxwell Waugh and wife Isabella did not have any children of their own. I don't see any in the register of births. The marriage registration of Maxwell Waugh shows his wife Isabella to have the maiden name of Kirkpatrick. Her father was Robert Kirkpatrick, blacksmith, and mother was Agnes Morrin. They were both deceased at the time of the marriage in 1865.
The birth registration for Isabella Agnes Jane Lees in 1874 names her mother as Jane Allan Lees. NO father is named at that time.  By 1900 at the time of her marriage to WIlliam McKie she was using the surname Waugh.
There is a marriage record in 1881 for a  Jane Allan age 24 marrying a James Coupland . Jane' s mother is named as AGnes Kirkpatrick (then married to David Blaycock). Jane Allan's reputed father was John Lees. Jane Allan was living at Sandbed of Dalswinton. This was the home of Isabella Waugh, wife of Maxwell.
If you look back at the census, Agnes Kirkpatrick was the sister of Isabella (Kirkpatrick) Waugh.
SO it looks like Isabella Agnes Jane Lees is the great niece   of Isabella Kirkpatrick Waugh.

What is strange though is that Jane Allan was using the surname ALLAN. I can't figure that one out. There was another Kirkpatrick sister Jane. She married Andrew Allan in 1855 and they moved to Victoria Australia in Dec 1856.
Regards
Joanna Waugh
Title: Re: William Waugh .
Post by: sarnia23 on Thursday 30 October 14 23:59 GMT (UK)
Hi just read you post about the william waugh. i was intrested in the shearer side as i am also related to the waugh shearer from dumfries my waugh shearer connections is william waugh had a daughter mary who married william shearer and they had 4 children elizabeth william jessie and maggie . maggie was my great grandmother who married thomas kirkaldie.sorry i cant remember dates will need to get my paperwork out maybe you could tell me your connections to the shearers
many thanks
sarnia23
Title: Re: William Waugh .
Post by: JOA on Friday 31 October 14 02:20 GMT (UK)
Mary's father was William Waugh (1817-1899). His parents were William Waugh (1786-1862)  and Mary Cherry.  This William was the older brother of my gg grandfather John Waugh(b. 1789-d. 1857 in Canada)  SO she was my John Waugh's great niece. Mary and my grandfather would be 2nd cousins.  I am 4th cousin to your Mary Waugh SHearer Kirkaldie, I think.

Mary Waugh Shearer had a brother William Waugh b 1844 in Kirkmahoe. I haven't been able to find any record of him past 1861 census.  DO you know what happened to him?
Joanna