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Title: BENALLACK Family - St Just and Ladock Cornwall
Post by: Lisa B on Monday 04 January 10 01:37 GMT (UK)
I have hit a brick wall with regards to the Benallack family of cornwall. I am a direct decendent of Stephen Benallack born Ladock abt 1675 and Elizabeth? I am 99% sure that Stephen was the second son of Stephen Benallack and Kathrin Scawen married 1658 at St Just Penwith, both were born St Just Penwith. I know they also had a son John Benallack who married Margery Edie at St Just Penwith but there doesn't seem to be any information on Stephen. Can any one point me in the direction of a birth certificate or other information that might help me put together the pieces. I have tried the opc for Cornwall but they have no information. Any help would be appreciated.
Title: Re: BENALLACK Family - St Just and Ladock Cornwall
Post by: wozzle on Monday 04 January 10 05:31 GMT (UK)
hi liza
welcome to rootschat
you would not be able to get a birth cert for stephen
civil registration did not start until 1837
you would need to look at the parish registers of st.just if that was where stephen was born.
 
Title: Re: BENALLACK Family - St Just and Ladock Cornwall
Post by: krisesjoint on Monday 04 January 10 08:09 GMT (UK)
Hi Lisa,

A Big Welcome To RootsChat and the Cornwall Board.  ;D

Everything you are saying seems a little mixed up I am afraid.

I see

Stephen BENALLACK was baptised 9 July 1683 Ladock. Father Stephen.
John BENALLACK bap 13 Nov 1886 Ladock father Stephen

Now getting back to the marriage you mention

Stephen BENALLACK = Katherin SCRAWEN was on the 15 Jan 1645 in Probus  :o so not the parents of these two. (But there are possible earlier John and Stephen to have been sons of these two.)

There are quite a few Benallack marriages in Ladock but the next Stephen is a Stephen BENALLACK = Margery EDDY 24 Feb 1733 Ladock

This marriage for John suggests John Ustick was from St Just - not John.

John son of Stephen BENALLACK = Margery dau of John USTICK of St Just in Penwith 30 Apr 1687 Ladock

also listed as

John BENALLACK gentleman of Ladock = Margery dau of John USTICK Gentleman 30 Apr 1687 St Just in Penwith

so I am not really sure where the marriage took place but it certainly appears John was of Ladock John Ustick of St Just. No other marriages of interest in St Just.

Cheers Kris  :)
Title: Re: BENALLACK Family - St Just and Ladock Cornwall
Post by: krisesjoint on Monday 04 January 10 08:22 GMT (UK)
CRO holds records relating to wills

Stephen BONALLICK yeaman of Ladock  1684 (Gentleman, administration, inventory) AP/B/2039

there is also
Stephen BONALLACK gentleman of Ladock 1690/1 (Gentleman, accountant) AP/B/2029

http://crocat.cornwall.gov.uk/DServe/searchpage.htm

These can be purchased from the CRO

http://www.cornwall.gov.uk/default.aspx?page=14713

Cheers Kris  :)
Title: Re: BENALLACK Family - St Just and Ladock Cornwall
Post by: krisesjoint on Monday 04 January 10 10:54 GMT (UK)
There was a Stephen BENALLACK buried in Ladock 25 Apr 1716. Too late to be the one from the Wills reference.
There was a John BENALLACK buried in Ladock 22 Mar 1704
a John BENALLACK buried in Ladock 3 Jan 1729

Besides these looking at some other burials pre 1720 which may prove interesting I see....possible baptsims to explain some but no guarantees as ages are not listed.

a Mary BENALLACK in Ladock 11 Jan 1698 (dau of Stephen and Elizabeth was bap 15 Mar 1797)
a Nicholas BENALLACK buried in Ladock 18 Dec 1702 (son of John and Margery was bap 3 Dec 1702)
a Mathew BENALLACK buried in Ladock 20 Sep 1707
a Richard BENALLACK buried in Ladock 10 Jun 1714 (son of John and Margery was bap 24 Jan 1704)
a Jacob BENALLACK buried in Ladock 17 Jan 1720
a Mary BENALLACK buried in Ladock 6 Feb 1720

I am sorry I see no connection to St Just looking at early Benallack entries. Ladock, seems quite active and a few other parishes have early entries St Agnes certainly also a but of activity. Mid 1600's William was having children in Mevagissey. St Just is a far way away from these parishes.

There was baptised to Stephen and Elizabeth in Ladock (Sorry I cannot find that marriage)

Alice 8 Dec 1691
Catherine 30 Dec 1694
Mary 15 Mar 1697
Alice 26 Nov 1699

There was baptised to John and Margery in Ladock

Dorcas 16 Mar 1688 (Only lists father but seems like the first one)
Henry 6 Nov 1690
Stephen 1 Aug 1692
John 10 Jul 1694
Katherine 23 Mar 1698
Peter 3 May 1700
Nicholas 3 Dec 1702
Richard 24 Jan 1704

Cheers Kris  :)
Title: Re: BENALLACK Family - St Just and Ladock Cornwall
Post by: Lisa B on Monday 04 January 10 20:34 GMT (UK)
Hi Lisa,

A Big Welcome To RootsChat and the Cornwall Board.  ;D

Everything you are saying seems a little mixed up I am afraid.

I see

Stephen BENALLACK was baptised 9 July 1683 Ladock. Father Stephen.
John BENALLACK bap 13 Nov 1886 Ladock father Stephen

Now getting back to the marriage you mention

Stephen BENALLACK = Katherin SCRAWEN was on the 15 Jan 1645 in Probus  :o so not the parents of these two. (But there are possible earlier John and Stephen to have been sons of these two.)

There are quite a few Benallack marriages in Ladock but the next Stephen is a Stephen BENALLACK = Margery EDDY 24 Feb 1733 Ladock

This marriage for John suggests John Ustick was from St Just - not John.

John son of Stephen BENALLACK = Margery dau of John USTICK of St Just in Penwith 30 Apr 1687 Ladock

also listed as

John BENALLACK gentleman of Ladock = Margery dau of John USTICK Gentleman 30 Apr 1687 St Just in Penwith

so I am not really sure where the marriage took place but it certainly appears John was of Ladock John Ustick of St Just. No other marriages of interest in St Just.

Cheers Kris  :)
Title: Re: BENALLACK Family - St Just and Ladock Cornwall
Post by: Lisa B on Thursday 07 January 10 07:32 GMT (UK)
Hi thanks so much for your reply.

Sorry I have given you dates that don’t make sense.

The John & Stephen you mentioned below are the sons of my Stephen

Stephen BENALLACK was baptised 9 July 1683 Ladock. Father Stephen.
John BENALLACK bap 13 Nov 1886 Ladock father Stephen

As I understand Stephen their father was born around 1658 or the 1660’s, which would make him around the 25 year old mark when the oldest was born. John below I thought was born around 1660 this to could tie in if they were brothers. I can’t find any Parish records or evidence to support this however. There seems to be a lot of information on John Benallack but nothing on Stephen. Would it be possible for you to check and see if there are any Parish records for Ladock in or about the 1660’s that might list the birth of Stephen and maybe John also?

Seems really unusual that there isn’t a marrage recorded for Stephen and his wife Elizabeth maybe they were married at another parish close by?

I have Stephen’s (Wife Elizabeth) children listed as:

Stephen b 1683
John b 1686
Catherine b  1694
Mary b 1698
Alice b 1691
Alice b 1699 ( My ancestor married John Bassett 1725)
Jacob b  1700?
Elizabeth b 1689

Johns (Wife Margery) children as: (These seem to match what you have told me)

Dorcas b 1688
Henry b 1690
Stephen b 1692
John b 1694
Peter b 1700
Nicholas b 1702
Richard b 1704
Katherine b 1698

Look forward to your reply



Title: Re: BENALLACK Family - St Just and Ladock Cornwall
Post by: jbatty on Tuesday 02 March 10 21:02 GMT (UK)
I have hit a brick wall with regards to the Benallack family of cornwall. I am a direct decendent of Stephen Benallack born Ladock abt 1675 and Elizabeth? I am 99% sure that Stephen was the second son of Stephen Benallack and Kathrin Scawen married 1658 at St Just Penwith, both were born St Just Penwith. I know they also had a son John Benallack who married Margery Edie at St Just Penwith but there doesn't seem to be any information on Stephen. Can any one point me in the direction of a birth certificate or other information that might help me put together the pieces. I have tried the opc for Cornwall but they have no information. Any help would be appreciated.
Title: Re: BENALLACK Family - St Just and Ladock Cornwall
Post by: jbatty on Tuesday 02 March 10 21:07 GMT (UK)
I am beginning my Bennallack search but haven't gone as far back (yet). I have John Bennallack married to Jane Searle in 1856. They had two daughters (born in St. Austell) and then Jane died. First daughter is Elizabeth Emma (my great-great-grandmother) and second daughter is Hannah Jane. I have the full descendants of Elizabeth Emma, but cannot figure out what happened to Hannah Jane. Does any of this sound familiar or can you help with some advice?
Title: Re: BENALLACK Family - St Just and Ladock Cornwall
Post by: Thamesite2017 on Tuesday 16 March 10 17:02 GMT (UK)
Have you tracked this family in all available census
just seems like them in 1871 spelt BENNALLACK
and wife is Mary
children: Elizabeth E 14, Hannah J 13, John T 6, Richard T 3m all born St Austell
Did John remarry??
Bye
Althea
Title: Re: BENALLACK Family - St Just and Ladock Cornwall
Post by: jbatty on Tuesday 16 March 10 18:29 GMT (UK)
John Bennallack (b. 1833 d. 1885) married Jane Searle (b. ? d. ?) on July 5, 1856 and their marriage produced Elizabeth Emma (b. ~1857 d. 1900) and Hannah Jane (b. ~1858 d. ?). Jane subsequently died.

John then married Mary Trethewey (b. ~1842 d. ?) and they had at least 8 children. I have more information on those children, and also on Mary Trethewey's family.

What I'm trying to figure out is what happened to Hannah Jane Bennallack. I am a direct descendent of her sister Elizabeth Emma, and I have the full family tree from her on down to the present.

After some correspondence with other searchers, I have come to find out that Hannah might also have been recorded as "Anna" or possibly "Susanna" or "Johanna" so that complicates the search.
Title: Re: BENALLACK Family - St Just and Ladock Cornwall
Post by: Heliotrophe on Friday 15 August 14 19:59 BST (UK)
Also interested in these Benallacks. Have Stephen Benallack was christened on 13th July 1795 at Probus. He married Amy Francis on 8th April 1822. He had brothers John Francis and George Francis and a sister Jane.  Stephen was a cordwainer. Stephen and Ann were living in St Keyne, Cornwall in the 1851 census. They had children: Stephen Staton, Jane (born 24.1.1827), John, James and George Brown. His parents were Stephen Benallack and Mary Hockey.
Can anyone give me any more details or take me forward of backwards with this tree??
Title: Re: BENALLACK Family - St Just and Ladock Cornwall
Post by: CindlesNZ on Thursday 07 February 19 06:24 GMT (UK)
Hi Lisa, it seems we are related, Stephen is my 8th great grandfather, I too am trying to find out more info, Regards cynthia
Title: Re: BENALLACK Family - St Just and Ladock Cornwall
Post by: Lisa B on Thursday 07 February 19 20:41 GMT (UK)
Hi mine also. Its been a difficult line to sort and most of the cornish records dont seem easy to find or exist. Most of the Benellacks seem to call their children Stephen or John which doesnt help.
Most researchers are able to find the later generations easily as there are records but the early generations are were the problem seems to lie.

My best idea for the line is:


Stephen Benallack  =   Katheren Scawen  (Married Probus) (All of this line died at Ladock)

Sons below:

Stephen Benallack  =   Mary ........ (Administration of his estate was dated 2nd March 1690/1)
John Benallack   =    Elizabeth Corin

Stephens sons below:

Stephen Benallack   =   Elizabeth ......... 
John Benallack   =   Margery Ustick



 
Title: Re: BENALLACK Family - St Just and Ladock Cornwall
Post by: Bret+0800 on Thursday 05 May 22 17:27 BST (UK)
Also interested in these Benallacks. Have Stephen Benallack was christened on 13th July 1795 at Probus. He married Amy Francis on 8th April 1822. He had brothers John Francis and George Francis and a sister Jane.  Stephen was a cordwainer. Stephen and Ann were living in St Keyne, Cornwall in the 1851 census. They had children: Stephen Staton, Jane (born 24.1.1827), John, James and George Brown. His parents were Stephen Benallack and Mary Hockey.
Can anyone give me any more details or take me forward of backwards with this tree??

Hello.

You may be interested in visiting https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Benallack-30
and clicking on the Descendants button, and viewing what is displayed; including scrolling down, after viewing the descendants, and viewing all of the information on the web page.