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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Topic started by: millesanc on Thursday 14 January 10 17:25 GMT (UK)
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I am hoping to find the parents of George Matcham Tarleton, born 1795 Ireland ? Died 1880, Dawlish, Devon.
He married in London in 1819 ,and a son Weldon Charles Tarleton was born in 1821. That middle name was continued through Weldon Charles Ts family in India where he was with the Army. His 2nd son George Weldon , was my husbands Gt grandfather born 1859 in Poona, India. As the Weldon sounds like a surname of a 'wife' earlier on , I'm hoping to find the connection of the two names.
Any ideas would be gratefully received. Trying to find information from India and Burma is very sparse.
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Hello Millesanc,
And welcome to Rootschat!
I suppose you are aware of it anyway, but there are lots of Weldons and one page of Tarletons on the India BMD site:-
http://indiafamily.bl.uk/UI/about.aspx
Also, on the IGI Pedigree File, there is the birth of a Robert Weldon Tarleton in 1748 in Kings County, Ireland - so the link between the families goes back some way. The Pedigree File was added by a Canadian, so you've probably got relations over the pond...
Good luck.
Leofric
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Thankyou for the welcome .
I had visited that site before, but must have missed that page I needed ( was looking at other surnames too ) There are several on the page that ARE my husbands family, but I already had that information. All the marriage cert of George Matcham Tarleton Esq, said born Ireland ! no county but now I'll look at IGI pedigree file and see what comes of that one. I would really like to make a connection.
Thanks for your help, it was greatly appreciated.
Lyn
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Hello again Lynn,
This doesn't answer your question, but may be of interest to you:-
No.331
WELDON JOHN TARLETON | died 2nd March 1993, aged 96 years | darling husband of LILY for 65
years | beloved father and grandfather | ELIZABETH (LILY) TARLETON | née MOORE | died 17th
December 1993, aged 93 years. | Dearly loved by all her | family and friends.
From a list of Headstones at St Patrick's church graveyard in Enniskerry, Co Wicklow.
A quick google using Tarleton+Weldon brought up quite a few things that will interest you, including a person with another username asking about Tarleton/Weldons on this site in 2005.
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Thanks again Leofric,
It does look as though our Tarletons did originate in Killeigh or Fentor, Kings County. Got a probable line back to Gilbert Tarleton who died in 1656, haven't got as far as looking at IGI yet, been too busy with the links , but shall look there now. Is it any easier from the Irish side to look for BMDs or am I right in thinking records weren't kept until the mid 1800s ? Only ask as I have a d-in-law from Dublin whose family still live there.
Lyn
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Another Tarleton arrives in India ... see "Troop 2" list; -
http://shadowsoftime.co.nz/dunira.html
Might not be related, but interesting if he is :)
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Thanks for that Deb,
That Tarleton could well be related along the line somewhere, maybe one day I'll find out. I hadn't seen that site before so it was very interesting. Probably lots of cousins. Judging by dates etc, my one could have been the son of a John Tarleton and a Miss Scott ( got myself a bit confused with them all at the moment ) so am going over them all again. Shame I can't find more on IGI though.
Leofric, I haven't found the birth on IGI pedigree files for Robert Weldon Tarleton 1748, another one to recheck !
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Lynn,
"Leofric, I haven't found the birth on IGI pedigree files for Robert Weldon Tarleton 1748, another one to recheck ! "
Sorry - wrong year! should've been 1750. To find it, and many more submitted by a woman in British Columbia, click on Advanced search, Pedigree File, then just enter the surname Tarleton, and Ireland, but with no dates and you'll see them all.
There is also on the Ancestral File of IGI a George Matcham Tarleton by a submitter from Texas, but he has the birth in Kent, not Ireland.
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Lynn,
To answer a previous question of yours, Irish BMD registration began in 1864, although protestant marriages were recorded from 1845, Before these dates one is reliant on parish records, the coverage of which is rather hit and miss.
On the FamilySearch Pilot site,
http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html?
There are 15 pages of Tarleton BMD, including some with a middle name of Weldon.
Leofric
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Oh my,
I am on that site now, but I've got 225 pages of Tarletons, so shall be busy for days I'd think ?
The IGI Ancestral file does have George Ms marriage to Louisa Best in 1819, which gives me her parents names and birthplace as Chilson Park, Kent, but I have the actual image from Ancestry, which shows born Ireland . Also ( maybe an error ?) the header for George shows christening and is his marriage ? But it has given me a little bit more info.
They had 5 children from what I can make out , our Weldon C, being eldest, Thomas and George born abt 1826 , Dora abt 1831 and Barbara 1833. I have found them in 1841 , 51 and 71, but as George M was an Army Captain they did move about all over the place. No sign of where the twins were born , Dora born France, Barbara born Bangor, Wales. Louisa died 41-51 not known where . Thomas and George are missing apart from the 41.
P erhaps I might find more on the next 220 pages I have to go through :) It will keep me out of mischief for a bit. I did guess it would be Parish records for the period I'm after.
Many thanks again,
Lyn
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Hello Lyn,
It seems to me that you may have the entire world-wide file of Tarletons to flog through! But if you whittle it down by selecting only the Irish BMD records 1845-1958, and entering Ireland in the place box in order to capture records outside Kings County too, then you'll only have 15 pages to trawl through.
I mentioned earlier doing a Google search using Tarleton+Weldon and yeterday tried Tarleton+Killeigh - and came up with this
http://www.bomford.net/IrishBomfords/Chapters/Chapter12/Chapter12.htm#12.1.3 _The_Tarleton_Family_
which I think you'll find interesting, as it explains where the Weldon name came from.
Leofric
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Hi Leofric,
Many thanks once again, that was an interesting piece about where the Weldon name came from, and the other suggestion to whittle down the name is very welcome, phew it would have taken ages ! I know the George M that I'm looking for , must have come from a 'good' family or his wife wouldn't have been allowed to marry him. Her father was from an illustrious family, and was an MP, Deputy Lieutenant of Kent also a JP . This was from 1790 onwards, his family Seat has taken me back to 1598, and the house is now a hotel, and looks wonderful, we can visit as it isn't far from where we live. Now I shall go back to my original search and concentrate on the Tarleton family.
I wouldn't have believed it if I'd been told, but seeing it onscreen is great. We're delighted.
Lyn ;D
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These one's attended Trinity College, Dublin in these years;
TARLETON Edward Weldon 1845 age 16. King's Co.
TARLETON Digby 1696 age 15, King's Co.
TARLETON Edward 1683. age 17. Liverpool
TARLETON Edward 1823, age 15 Dublin
TARLETON Frederick Falkiner 1845, age 17. Co. Tyrone
TARLETON Robert 1818 age 24. King's Co.
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Thankyou for that info, it would be interesting to see if Robert ( the last on the list ) may be our George Ms brother ? if only I could find the parents. I read the other day that ALL the Tarleton family in Killeigh are descended from a Digby Tarleton, so I think I'm on the right track.
I shall keep this for future reference.
Lyn
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Hello again Lyn
I want YOUR ancestors :) Hope you manage to join Lancs library ok because I have just been glued to The Times section - be sure to look there!
eg. 1 Sept 1835 Mr Weldon Tarleton, High Constable of Queens County, Ireland, wounded but managed to escape.
London Gazette 25 Sept 1855 Casualties from Sebastapol W Weldon and George Weldon
News from Egypt 16 July 1807 - Captain Tarleton killed in Egypt
Just to mention a smattering from hundreds. Lucky you to have all this available.
Happy hunting - get in plenty of ready meals :)
Eileen
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Hi Eileen ,
Yes I have joined and was given a number to search until the pin comes through but it didn't accept it this evening. I just HAVE to now after you giving me those snippets, I can't wait to see things . The Weldon name is too frequent NOT to be connected to my husbands family. I'll stock the freezer and be ready for the next exciting bits.
I will be a happy hunter !!
Lyn
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Hello again Lyn
Happy hunting - get in plenty of ready meals :)
Eileen
Well with Indian connections there will probably be a Take Away or two on order!!
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You are NOT kidding ;D
Haven't been able to get onto the site for the newspapers yet, so will have to be patient until the card and pin come now. I did have a look at what The Kings Police Medal was given for, as another brother of gt grandfather George Weldon T,was in England to receive it in Nov 1911 , I'm really close to some things it's very tantalising, I don't have FindMyPast to find outgoing passenger lists only incoming on Ancestry, but they seem to flit across from Rangoon quite often ?
The mother of George Ws wife had the lovely name of Mah Nim Yah, so she was obviously Burmese I'd think, such a lot I can't find sadly, but the Tarletons are fascinating ! And the birth places of my hubby's Uncles ! you would have to have a couple of bottles of wine to pronounce some of them , wonderful.
Lyn
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Presume you have looked here;
http://www.rootschat.com/links/07xd/
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Well, no I hadn't , as all the Tarletons I have were either in India or Burma from 1845 upwards , apart from the ones recently found coming and going from Rangoon in the early 1900s, and as I'm not sure who our George M Tarleton was descended from yet, I haven't looked further this way in Ireland. Even GM, seems to have been in England from at least 1819 when he married, and ended his days in Devon in 1880. They're a fascinating family , that's for sure.
Thanks for the link, needs more looking at but I did spot a WELDON on there, so related somewhere along the line.
Lyn
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Well the 1901 Census will be coming on line shortly so you might get further clues then...
Don't forget a line has 2 ends to work from 8) ;D, collect enough slices and you'll end up with a cake!
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I'd rather have cake than an Indian takeaway :) my hubby can have that. Parts of both sides of his family prove very difficult, after 6years I've never found where his maternal Grandmother was from, even though she's buried 10 minutes away from us. Can't find her ANYWHERE, even with help, perhaps she may show up on the 1901 Ireland Census ?? that would be a turn up for the books, I'll look forward to that one now.
;) Lyn
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Hi everyone,
Just wanted to say a BIG thankyou to all who helped me on my search for the Tarleton Family. I am now in contact with the Grandson of my husbands Gt Uncle, and he has given me ALL the tree back to Gilbert c 1580. Also the Will of George Matcham T, and a very interesting letter between Gt Uncle and Gt Grandfather written in 1905. It gives much more insight into the family and how their lives panned out. I'm still reeling from everything I discovered in The Times about so many of them, without all your help I'd still be at a brickwall. ;D
Lyn
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Congratulations Lyn :) :) :) My brick wall remains bombproof ;D
The Mulhearns never made the Times :)
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Oh well , I could go on about the OTHER one, this is hubby's Maternal Grandmother, and even with help from loads of others including Family Tree Magazine, no one has ever been able to 'FIND' her or her family. I think there must have been a few tall stories when she married his Grandfather in 1912, even her 2nd marriage in 1919 ( after being widowed in 1917 ) didn't give any clues. We even know where she's buried but not were she was born or who her parents were, none of the names match to anybody ??? so she was either from another planet OR not telling the truth . ??? died too early (1953) for birthplace to be on death cert sadly. Nor any sign in 1911 Census, >:( So I shall just be quite happy with MY side and the Tarletons ;D
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Out comes the cake..... ;D
Well done!
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There are a few sources of information which you should check out. Gladys Tarleton of Maymyo was a 7th Day Adventist, and you will find plenty of information on her by checking out the Adventist Archives at http://www.adventistarchives.org/DocArchives.asp - mostly in the Eastern Tidings. She was the wife of William Henry Tarleton. She figures prominently in the book "Advent Angels over Burma. Her sisters Mrs Smith and Mrs MAhoney are mentioned. She served WWI as a nurse in Mesopotamia and ran a guest house in Rangoon with another sister Alice. Also look at http://www.angloburmeselibrary.com, especially the lists of evacuees and internees, where I think you will find your husbands grandparents. Information is not as sparse as it used to be.
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Many thanks for your message , I have been looking at the sites you suggested and found some VERY interesting info about my husbands Grandmother ! We only have one photo of her which has her with my F in law and who we thought was Grandfather, now it seems she married again in 1924, whether a widow the record doesn't say but not what we expected. Actually Gladys Tarleton seems to be Gt Grandfather George Weldon Tarletons 2nd wife NOT William Henrys, he was married to Mary Conroy, but all very interesting anyway.
I haven't managed to find the lists of evacuees and internees though, any suggestions as to how I might get that up on the 2nd site, I can't seem to find what I'm looking for :(
Now I'm going back to Familysearch and see what else might turn up. I wish deaths would show up and then I might even have more.
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on the War Against Japan page you will find them
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Thanks again, got the lists now.
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Thanks, hallmark!
I imagine the Frederick at TCD is the one who was later a barrister of Lower Pembroke Street and m. Caroline C. Patterson. Their dau. Judith Amelia (known as Aimée) was b. in Dublin 25 Nov. 1864 -- considerate of her to wait until civil registration had started -- and married Dr Alfred Taylor in 1895.
They occur in my tree, just in case anyone has an interest in this connection.
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Still a strong resonance of Tarletons in Tullamore. They were a big employer up to the late 1960s having a malt ?warehouse in the middle of the town at O'Connor Square, almost all of the original stone buildings are still there but with other uses now. Myself and my neighbour Stephen often played inside there. A property developer who knocked one part and built apartments named the development 'Tarleton Court'. They also had a shop cum office at Bridge Street, Tullamore, site of the present Eurostore shop, where farmers grain was analysed for moisture content. The name that was mentioned in the 60's as manager was Major Cardew.
BC
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Hello,
my interest is the "mrs.Smith" in your post. I am doing a tree which includes a Smith family who lived in Moulmein, Rangoon from 1840-1940ish, among them was a Grace Elizabeth Smith who ran a guest house in Rangoon called "Allandale". If you think wee might have a link please be in touch.
The Smith family was large and any queries about any Smiths in Burma/India are welcome.
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Possibly my previous post was a "whoopsie". Please forgive if so.