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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Antrim => Topic started by: J-Mac on Saturday 16 January 10 20:58 GMT (UK)
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Would appreciate a graveyard look-up for Robert McMaster and his wife Mary Elizabeth Eccles.
Many thanks,
J-Mac
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A number of graveyards in Ballymena and surrounding area can be searched at:
http://www.thebraid.com/genealogy.aspx
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Hi Scotmum,
I've had a search on this site but nothing turned up.
Thanks for the reply.
Regards,
J-Mac
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That's a pity. Can you perhaps give folks an indication of timescale for your couple?
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The only dates I have are that their marriage was in 1852 and I think Mary Elizabeth (Eccles)
died in 1910.
I know of them having three sons, William b.1861, James b.1865 & Samuel b.1867
William moved to Lanarkshire and is in Wishaw in the 1881 cencus.
J-Mac
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The Braid site does not have all of their records online yet, so this may be the reason for no return or, as was quite often the case, there may not have been a headstone.
There is a death index entry in Ballymena in 1911 for a Mary McMaster born c 1844 and one in 1913 for a birth c1839, albeit neither fits with your Mary as she married in 1852 (unless the second married aged 13).
You can further check indexes at :
http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=2;t=searchable;c=1408347
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Could this be the Will extract for 1911 Mary McMaster death? -
"Probate of the Will of Mary McMaster late of Ballygelly County Antrim Widow who died 21 June 1911 granted at Belfast to Alexander McMaster and Robert Hugh McMaster Farmers."
www.proni.gov.uk
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Thanks for the information on the possible will.
There may be a possibility here as on the Scottish death registration of
the son William, the father's (Robert McMaster) occupation is given as
"Farmer". This is in 1931.
On William's marriage registration document, Robert's occupation is given as
"Master Shoemaker". This is in 1885.
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Here's the Mary McMaster that died in June 1911 in 1911 census with her family-
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Slemish/Ballygelly/122800/
She's a widow with 10 children (all surviving) and married 49 years according to the census.
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After putting up the previous post I went back into the Proni web site
and found a will for Mary Elizabeth McMaster in April 1910. This seems
a closer match but unfortunately does not mention any relatives names,
so is still unconfirmed.
I think I really need to trace the death Of Robert McMaster to be sure.
Thanks for your efforts.
J-Mac
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It might be best to start from the 'beginning' with known facts to get more family information.
To start with, IGI (www.familysearch.org) lists 3 sons of Robert McMaster and Mary Elizabeth Eccles which points to an area outside Ballymena town.
1. James McMaster born 8 Jan.1865 Glenwhirry, Co.Antrim (page 157 in civil register)
2. Samuel McMaster born 4 Feb.1867 Glenwhirry, Co.Antrim (page 157 in civil register).
3. John McMaster born 29 Nov.1869 Co.Armagh (Armagh could be a mistake if wrong item was selected from drop-down menu when inputting record into IGI database).
There is an 1852 marriage in Co. Antrim for a Robert McMaster to a Mary Elizabeth ? . If this is the correct marriage there were likely several children born between 1852 (marriage)-1864 (astart of birth registration).
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Hi aghadowey,
I've tried searching in Familysearch but keep getting no matches for the marriage.
Can you give me some tips on your searches that let you find this information.
I'm sure you have found the right family.
Thanks,
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Robert Mcmaster marriage 1852 Ballymena registration district volume 2 page 145
Mary Elizabeth Eccles (same details)
Found Mary Elizabeth Eccles 1st and then found Robert by searching with 'master' as surname!
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Was this on Familysearch. I'm not getting anywhere with it.
How did you find the sons, James, Samuel and John.
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The marriage appears in index to civil registrations on LDS Pilot site-
http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=collectionDetails;t=searchable;c=1408347
The children are listed in IGI (International Genealogical Index) on main LDS site (www.familysearch.org)- I found them by doing parent search- simply put in father's name and mother's name and nothing else-
www.familysearch.org/eng/search/frameset_search.asp
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Thanks aghadowey.
I've found the marriage and sons now.
Thanks again for your time and help.
This has un-covered another great-great uncle for me.
J-Mac
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Record Type Civil Marriage
Date of Marriage 20 Sep 1852
Groom Name robert MCMASTER
Bride Name mary elizabeth ECCLES
Church Newtown Crommelin Presbyterian Church
Parish Newtown Crommelin
Civil District Ballymena
County Antrim
fathers. robert mcmaster & william eccles.
regards mary.
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Thanks for the information Mary.
Are you able to tell me where you found it please.
I would like to check out the sons of the marriage to
try and confirm what I have found on the 1911 cencus.
Regards,
J-Mac
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I have a family bible which lists Robert McMaster ( (1803-1879) married To Eliza ( 1816-1881) ; Son of Arthur and Martha; who had 9 Children: James, Arthur, Martha, Robert, Sally, (1) Sally (2), Samuel, Mary Jane, John. John( 1857-1925)was my grandfather. who moved to Canada in 1912.
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Welcome to RootsChat, Don :)
Just adding a URL link for a previous statement-
….their marriage was in 1852 and I think Mary Elizabeth (Eccles) died in 1910.
Marriage-
20 September 1852 - Robert McMaster to Mary Elizabeth Eccles - Newtown Crommelin Presbyterian Church. #41
Fathers - Robert McMaster and William Eccles, both farmers.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1852/09422/5413242.pdf
Do you have a link to their passenger list to Canada in 1912?