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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Kent => Topic started by: ashleyj on Thursday 21 January 10 12:24 GMT (UK)
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First post ever anywhere, so please excuse style if not what is expected.
Am church archivist for St. George's Church Sevenoaks Weald, found a burial vault beneath the Church in 2001.
Occupants are Alexander Glendining and his two daughters Ada and Louisa.
Would be interested to find out if there are any family descendants in the area who have any knowledge of the family's involvement with the Church as the vault must have been built at the same time as the original chapel was built in 1821 but no details apparently exist.
Thanks in anticipation, Ashley
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It may not be quite as old as you think, unless of course there was an earlier generation with similar names, quite possible.
The IGI - www.familysearch.org.uk have the following children listed to Alexander and Sarah Glendining
All in Sevenoaks, Kent
Ada - Christened 29 November 1837
Amy - Christened 08 August 1845
Sophia Elizabeth - Christened 01 May 1841
Don't see any entries for Louisa. You probably have access to the baptism register so may be able to check if there are any other details, such as address. Meantime I'll check the census to see if there is any mention.
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Yes!! 1841
No = Not born in County
Ashgrove, Seven Oaks, Kent
Alexander Glendining 50 Independent No
Sarah 35 No
Sidney 5 No
Ada 3 Yes
Sophia 9? months Yes
HO107; Piece 485; Book: 5; Civil Parish: Seven Oaks; County: Kent; Enumeration District: 8; Folio: 31; Page: 3
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In 1851 Ada is 13 years old and appears to be at school in Hove, Brighton
HO107; Piece: 1647; Folio: 85; Page: 54
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Many thanks for such a rapid response.
I actually have all BMDs for the occupants and would like to see if there are any family descendants with an interest in their past who may have old family papers re. the vault as it must have been very expensive to build a sit is the full width of the nave and runs 14' west from beneath the chancel steps. Builders have told me that to construct this after the chapel was built would not have been at all likely / possible so must be ca. 1821.
There is a family story here as well as the wife / mother was buried in tunbridge wells and not brought back to the family vault. Possibly due to her husband and her being separated and him dying whilst living with his "nurse and constant companion" elsewhere!
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Have to have another look for Sidney in a minute, at least he hasn't died,
1861 has them lodging in West Beach, Lytham, Lancashire
Sidney Glendining 25 born Sussex Brighton
Emily J 28 Surrey Camberwell
Douglas 3 and Lily B 2 both born Seven Oaks, Kent
RG9; Piece: 3147; Folio: 38; Page: 5
Sidney Glendining married Q3 1856 Sevenoaks 2a 581 to either Caroline Bassett or Emily Jane Perkins
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If we are able to work forward there may be some clues to living people who you might be able to contact.
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Many thanks Mary,
You are indeed a fast worker. There is a sad tale of the two young daughters, they both predeceased their father and were placed in the vault, he then died in 1870 and joined them but they are without their mother.
The whole story of finding the vault was a rather Indiana Jones saga and it would be nice to close the story with the knowledge that their descendants know of its existence.
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1861 is rather interesting
Same address
Alexander Glendenning Head M 71 Magistrate Yorkshire Halifax
Sarah Wife M 58 London
Alexander son Un 18 Scholar Kent Sevenoaks
Lily Saunders daur Mar 33 Wife of an Officer Manchester
Julia S daur 8 India Calcutta
Emily daur 6 Kent Tunbridge Wells
Florence daur 5 India Calcutta
Alick B son 3 India Sealkote
Lily daur 1 Kent Sevenoaks
plus servants
RG9; Piece: 488; Folio: 126; Page: 4
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1871 - 1 Park Place, Sevenoaks, Kent
Ann Woodington 70 Lets apartments Staffordshire and a couple of servants
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John Boyd Saunders Head M 40 Major in H.M. India Army on active list Bromley Kent
Lily Wife M 42 Officer's Wife Manchester, Lancashire
Julia Isabel daur 18 Calcutta India B.S.
Emily daur 16 Tunbridge Wells, Kent
Florence Augusta daur 15 Calcutta India B.S.
Alick Boyd son 13 Scholar Sealkote Punjab India B.S.
Lily Melvill daur 11 Sevenoaks Kent
Maude Lushington daur 5 Blackheath Kent
Amy Constance daur 2 Blackheath Kent
Mary Ann Johnson servant Unm 22 Nurse Domestic Servant Normanton Rutlandshire
RG10; Piece: 923; Folio: 5; Page: 1
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1881
45 Blenheim Crescent South Side, Kensington, London
John B Saunders Head M 50 Col. N.M. India Army Retire? Service Kent Bromley
Lily Wife M 50 Lancaster Manchester
Alick B son Unm 23 Bank Clerk E Indies
Lily M daur Unm 21 Kent Sevenoaks
Maude L daur Unm 15 Scholar Kent Blackheath
Amy C daur 12 " " "
and a couple of servants
RG11; Piece: 42; Folio: 83; Page: 9
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1891 - 84 Denbigh Street, Belgrave, St George Hanover Square, London
Lillie Saunders Head Wid 63 Living on her own means Manchester
Amy C daur 22 Kent Blackheath
Alick B son 33 Cashier (Bank) India Sealkote N.W.P.
RG12; Piece: 75; Folio 88; Page 52
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1901 has Amy Saunders age 32 living on her own means visiting Ada and Elizabeth Merryweather, teachers (private school), at 8 Chandos Hill, Canterbury Road, Margate, Kent. RG13; Piece: 821; Folio: 150; Page: 28
Need to find more marriages and children.
Lily Boyd Saunders died Q1 1898 Kensington 1a 138 age 70.
If you have access to the marriage register you should be able to confirm this marriage, maybe it would give the address and witnesses? they might give some clues.
John Boyd Saunders to Lily Glendining Q1 1852 Sevenoaks 2a 414
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Following on from earlier - 1871
11 Hungershall Park, Speldhurst, Kent
Sarah Glendining Head Widow 69 Middlesex London
Alexander Son Unm 28 Kent Seven Oaks
Fanny Richards Niece Unm 30 Devon Offwelt
plus Servants
RG10; Piece: 927; Folio: 67; Page: 23
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Still with mother in 1881
11 Hungershall Park, Speldhurst, Kent
Sarah Glendenning Head W 79 None (Rents & ) Middlesex London (Blind)
Alexander son Unm 38 Kent 7 Oaks
Florence Saunders Boarder Unm 25 Calcutta
Rachael Heald Visitor Unm 42 Lancashire Manchester
Charlotte Dyer W 52 Rents and Dividents Kent Chevening
and servants
RG11; Piece: 913; Folio: 17; Page: 27
not a lot different in 1891
11 Hungershall Park, Speldhurst, Kent
Sarah Glendining Head W 89 Living on her own means London City Blind
Alexander Son S 48 " Kent Sevenoaks
Florence A Saunders Granddaur S 35 India Calcutta
James E Fraill Visitor M 64 Living on his own means Surrey Walworth
Julia " Visitor M 62 Kent Sevenoaks
Minna H " " S 28 Kent Blackheath
and the usual servants
RG12; Piece: 676; Folio 121; Page 13
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Death of Sarah Glendining Q3 1893 Tonbridge 2a 429 age 91.
Suspected death of Alexander Q4 1896 Westminster 1a 342 age 54
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Hello Mary,
Just back in from shopping, what a fantastic trawl you have done, I must try to analyse where to go next.
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Will have to take a break here for a bit, somebody else might be able to take up the chase, failing that I'll give it another go with some of the others, but it may not be until tomorrow.
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All I can say is a big thank you so far Mary. As I said at the beginning, this is the first time I have ever tried this sort of research and really appreciate your help.
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Are you able, from your Archives, to confirm the burial dates for Alexander, Ada and Louisa?
The death I have found for Ada is Q1 1853 in the Portsea, Hampshire registration distrist.
Does it make sense that Sophia Elizabeth Glendining's death was Q2 1843 Brighton, Sussex, yet she's not on the vault with the others?
and if the following marriages took place in your church, are you able to confirm the witnesses and father's names in order to confirm that I have the right marriages?
Sidney Glendining married Q3 1856 to Emily Jane Perkins
John Boyd Saunders to Lily Glendining Q1 1852 Sevenoaks
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My apologies, I don't know why I thought Louisa was in the vault it is indeed Ada, Sophia and their father. I have the death certificates for the girls and your details are correct. As for the marriages, the registers for this period must be at the Centre for Kentish Studies, i.e. the archives in Maidstone. I haven't been for there for ages but will add these checks to my list for next time.
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Oh don't worry, I'm assuming I am correct, although that's a very bad thing to do, I just hope I don't fall down.
1881 was a lucky chance
14 Roxburgh Road, St John the Baptist, Margate, Kent
Edward W Seath, a 25 year old Grocer shopman (out of employ) born Herne Bay, Kent and his wife Jane 24, Sturry, Kent and children Violet Mable 2, Birchington and Lilian C 6 months, Westgate in Sea, have visiting them
David A Ogden Visitor M 42 Captain 14th Regiment active born Canada
Emily Ogden Visitor 26 Tunbridge Wells
Charles G son 1 Aden
Julia Isabell Saunders Sister in Law Un 27 India
and servants
RG11; Piece: 984; Folio: 46; Page: 11
Unfortunately I don't see a marriage for David Ogden and Emily Saunders but perhaps they married abroad, but I do believe because of the birthplace and the presence of Julia Isabella that these are the correct sisters.
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Oh dear, 1891
7 High Street, Tottenham, Middlesex
William Rook, a widowed dairyman and his family
George E Richards Boarder S 24 Butcher Berks Windsor
(I only mention him because of the coincidence of the name Richards - Fanny Richards was niece of Sarah Glendining - see 1871)
Emily Ogden Boarder Wid 36 Living on her own means Kent Tunbridge Wells
Beatrice E " Boarder 6 C. Islands Guernsey
Henry B " " 3 C. Islands Alderney
RG12; Piece: 1079; Folio 107; Page 21
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In 1901 Beatrice E Ogden is 16 and a pupil in Elmslea, Lordship Lane, Tottenham, Middlesex.
RG13; Piece: 1246; Folio: 163; Page: 30
Possible death for Emily Ogden Q1 1892 Wandsworth 1d 630 age 39, maybe somebody might be able to contradict me on that if Wandsworth is the wrong registration district.
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Just making a note of the James, Julia and Minna who were visiting Sarah Glendining in 1891, I was hoping the names would have fitted with our family but I'm not so sure.
James Christie[r] Traill married Julia Lamborde 6 August 1857 Sevenoaks, Kent
Sarah appears to have a sister Eleanor who married in 1854 and their father was William.
Do you know what Sarah, wife of Alexander's maiden name was?
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That's an easy one - Heald. They were a family from the Manchester area with money in Calico Mills, Alexander effectively married into Sarah's money.
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Ah!! I've been on a name collecting mission - looking for the Fanny Richards born Offwell, who I haven't found, but the family living there are William Richards who married Harriet Fry in 1836. I suspect she must belong to them but can't link it together at present.
But Heald .... I'm sure we've come across that name - yes in the 1881 census with Sarah, must be a relative Rachael, unmarried 42 born Manchester, well I suspect she's not the mother of Fanny.
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Lily Melvill Saunders married Q3 1888 Barnsley, Yorkshire 9c 757
Unfortunately there is a spouse missing and I am unable to match her up to a husband.
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Maude Lushington Saunders married George Collis Q4 1890 Paddington 1a 114
1891 St James Vicarage, Canterbury Road, Margate Kent
George Collis Head M 56 Clerk in Holy Orders Middlesex Islinton, London
Maude Lushington Collis Wife M 26 London Blackheath
Arthur Archibald Jeffery Collis Son S 16 Scholar Kent Westgate on Sea
Maria Gertrude Collis daur S 21 Kent Margate
and a servant
RG12; Piece: 726; Folio 29; Page 23
1901 and luckily we have a child!!
St James Vicarage, Garlinge, Kent
George Collis Head M 67 Clergyman Church of Eng. Islington London
Maude L Wife M 35 London Blackheath
George H son S 33 Merchant Services (Mate) Kent Margate
Maria G daur S 31 " "
Arthur A J son S 26 Organist (Music) " "
Amy D M daur 9 " "
RG13; Piece: 820; Folio: 29; Page: 31.
Birth of Amy Dorothy M Collis Q4 1891 Thanet Kent 2a 890
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I believe that by 1911 George had probably died and mother and daughter were alone.
It would seem that Amy probably didn't marry as there is a death for
Amy Dorothy M Collis 1980 Fulham, 12 0819 giving a birth date of 1 September 1891.
Don't see a death for Maude though ???
Another dead end.
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Still wondering what happened to Sidney and Emily with children Douglas and Lily B Glendining.
Found an entry in the Morning Chronicle Saturday, January 23, 1858
On the 20th inst. at Ash-Grove, Sevenoaks, the wife of Sidney Glendining. Esq. of a son.
and also Friday, February 11, 1859
On the 7th inst. at Ash-Grove, Sevenoaks, Kent, the wife of Sidney Glendining Esq. of a daughter.
Is this too much of a coincidence of names do you think?
Trewman's Exeter Flying Post or Plymouth and Cornish Advertiser (Exeter, England), Wednesday, August 27, 1862 - MARRIAGES
August 13 at Penshurst, Kent by the Rev Walter Hill James, Vicar of Croft, Lincolnshire, assisted by the Rev. W Green, Rector of Penshurst, the Rev. Benjamin Fuller James, of St Peter's College Westminster, second son of John Haddy James, Esq. of Exeter, to Eloisa Mary Angela, only daughter of Francis Heald Esq. of Port St Mary, Spain, and niece of Alex Glendining Esq. of Redleaf, Penshurst.
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Oh here he is, wonder if they have been abroad all this time.
Daily News (London, England), Saturday, March 3, 1877 - DEATHS
GLENDINING - February 28th at Lausanne, S Glendining Esq. son of the late A Glendining Esq. of Ashgrove, Sevenoaks, Kent, age 40.
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I don't feel I've discovered anything that could bring us forward to the present day, most lines have petered out or possibly gone abroad.
I might try the Healds. Can you give me any details of Sarah's parentage, need to try to link them into Rachael Heald who was visiting in 1881.
I feel this will be Rachael's parents
Liverpool Mercury etc (Liverpool, England), Friday, September 7, 1832 - MARRIAGES
On Saturday 25th Ult. at the Collegiate Church Manchester, Mr Nicholas Heald of London, Solicitor, to Mary Helen daughter of Thomas Cootes Esq. of Smedley Hall, near Manchester.
1871 Bowdon Road, Bowdon, Cheshire
Nicholas Heald Head M 67 Merchant Hackney, Middlesex
Mary H Wife M 59 Manchester, Lancashire
Mary daur Unm 37 " "
Rachel " " 32 " "
Walker son " 30 Merchant's Clerk " "
Ernest son " 26 Mill Manager " "
and servants
RG10; Piece: 3683; Folio: 145; Page: 6
and 1881 Firs Road, Bowdon, Cheshire
Nicholas Heald Head M 77 Merchant Middlesex Hackney
Mary E Wife M 69 Lancashire Manchester
Mary daur Unm 47 Lancashire Manchester
Eveline Lalor Visitor Unm 39 Middlesex London
and servants
RG11; Piece: 3505; Folio: 34; Page: 23
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Can't be sure if the son is Walker or Walter, looks like Walker to me but transcribers have of course assumed Walter.
This is an assumption - 1881 Ashley Heath, Hale, Cheshire
Walker Heald Head M 40 Export Merchant to Manilla? Lancashire Pendleton
Emily I Wife M 29 Buenos Ayres Argentina Conferation
Mary H daur 5 Cheshire Bowdon
Emily I daur 3 months " Hale
Jane Krabbi Visitor W 49 Cornwall St Justin Roseland
and Servants
RG11; Piece: 3506; Folio: 30; Page: 25
1891 The Ceders, Hampstead, London
Walter Heald Head M 50 Railway Secretary Lancashire Pendleton
Emily Isabel Wife M 39 Argentine Republic (British Subject)
Mary Helen daur S 15 Cheshire Bowdon
Emily Isabel daur 10 Cheshire Hale
Charles Brahmen son 8 " "
Walter Marsden son 5 " "
Marion Baynes Governess S 27 Middlesex
Lizzie Jane Jacklin Visitor S 28 Essex
and servants
RG12; Piece: 115; Folio 51; Page 3
1901 - 18 year old Charles B Heald and 15 year old Walter M Heald are Students in St Peter & Paul, Tonbridge, Kent
RG13; Piece: 757; Folio: 95; Page: 36.
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If I read the index for the 1911 correctly, I believe that Charles Brehmer Heald 28, is living with his sisters Emily Isabel 30 and Mary Helen 35, in Chertsey.
Charles B Heald married Q3 1915 Chertsey, Surrey 2a 150 to Edith H Mason.
Charles Brenmer Heald died 1974 North Cotswold, Gloucestershire 7b 1496 birth date 3 Dec 1882
I think the children to Charles and Edith are
Nancy Q4 1916 Chertsey
Betty Q1 1918 Chertsey
Audrey Q3 1920 Hitchin
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There is a marriage of a Walter M Heald married Q1 1913 Strand, London 1b 902 to Julie Gurlitt, can't be sure it's him as the middle name isn't given.
In 1911, 25 year old Walter Marsden Heald (born Cheshire) and 70 year old Walter Heald (born Manchester) are in Spilsby, Lincolnshire in a household with a number of other people.
Walter Marsden is a student at law and unmarried at that time so I don't believe the above marriage is his. He and his father are staying in a hotel in Spilsby and father claiming to be still married.
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Hi Mary
Thanks for the invite but I really think you have covered everything above and beyond the call of duty!!
I will just add my humble offering re: Maude Lushington Collis b 1865/66 - this may be her death
Maud L Collis aged 80 March qtr 1946 Surrey North Eastern Volume 2a Page 38
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This is looking like the right one
Marriage of Emily I Heald Q2 1916 Chertsey, Surrey 2a 125 to Waldegrave Mcg Eager
This looks like a Waldegrave Mac Gillicuddy Eager who was born in 1884 in Cornwall. His father was an Alexander Richard Eager, Clerk in Holy Orders, born Ireland.
I wonder if Emily and Waldegrave went abroad as I can find no evidence of either children or his death in this country.
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Problem is Carole I can't bring it forward to finding a living person to be made aware of the grave >:(
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Just found a great site - http://www.gravestonephotos.com/public/findfamily.php?name=Heald
This wonderful man has taken photographs of gravestones in lots of places around the country, and in his list is Walter Marsden Heald who appears to have died in 1957 age 72 and is buried in St Andrews, Aldringham, Suffolk. I've sent a request for a photograph of the gravestone, wonder if it will hold any details of others buried in the same grave?
He's also mentioned here http://www.archive.org/stream/innertemplarswho00inne/innertemplarswho00inne_djvu.txt as a member of the Inner Templars who volunteered and served in the great war. Need to go looking to see if I can find his service records, might be mention of a wife.
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I think contacting this website might useful to you http://www.healds.org.uk/bm/e1900_CHS.html There is a huge amount of Healds research transcribed on the site and the owner would appear to be a Heald himself.
There are mentions of Isabel Julia Krabbe, who we found on a census with the Healds, and she appears to have married a Walter Heald, also mentions of the Eagers on the site. I suspect the owner should be able to put you in touch with whoever has provided those details/transcriptions and this may give you a living relative of Alexander and Sarah.
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Good morning Mary,
Can't believe how much effort you are putting into this for me you are very kind. There is an amazing amount of information here since I last looked yesterday, in response to which is an entry which confirms Sarah's parents and marriage to Alexander which may be useful.
Sarah /HEALD/11Apr1802 C097551 Joseph /HEALD/Rachel [/MARSDEN/]London, Old Jewry Presbyterian LND(b. 19 Mar 1802 -VRI; m. Alexander /GLENDINNING/ 1826; d. 1870 -REL) VRI FHL 813809 Dr Williams Library 3590 (Par of St Lawrence, LND) CEN 1881 (Speldhurst, KENT)
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I've received photographs of the grave of Walter Marsden Heald, which I've asked permission to display on here, so I'll do this when I've had permission, but unfortunately there are no other names on the headstone, so presumably nobody else sharing the grave. As I've found no marriage for him I think this may confirm that he wasn't married so no issue ......
I will look further into other possible descendants later today, but I think that we are nearing the point where you will need to approach other Heald researchers who may be the descendants you need, the easiest way via the link I posted in my last message.
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From an excellent site - Gravestone Photographic Resource http://www.gravestonephotos.com/index.php
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I need to make a note of the 1861 entry for the Healds as there appears to be more of them, although a distinct absence of Ernest who I was looking for later.
Bredbury Hall, Bredbury, Cheshire
Nicholas Heald Head M 57 Calico Printer Middlesex Hackney
Mary Ellen Wife M 49 Lancashire Manchester
Mary daur Unm 27 " Cheetham
Frank son Unm 23 Calico Printer " Eccles
Rachel daur Unm 22 " "
Walter son Unm 20 Banker's Clerk " "
Kate daur Unm 18 " "
Frances Adelaide Heald Niece Unm 20 Northumberland Newcastle on Tyne
Edith Heald Niece Unm 18 " "
Annie Frances Coates Niece Unm 6 Scholar Lancashire Eccles
and servants
RG9; Piece: 2559; Folio: 32; Page: 23
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Interesting information
The Manchester Times and Gazette (Manchester, England), Saturday, July 11, 1840 -
Partnerships Dissolved
Alexander Glendining, John Coates, Nicholas Heald, and John Wilson of Manchester calico printers (so far as regards John Coates).
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We have another marriage!
The Leeds Mercury (Leeds, England), Friday, February 16, 1866
HALL-HEALD February 13th at the Unitarian Chapel, Hale, Cheshire by the Reverend A.M Creary, John elder son of the late John Hall, Esq. of Manchester to Kate, youngest daughter of Nicholas Heald Esq. of Bowdon, Cheshire.
and the one mentioned on that website I gave the link for
Manchester Times (Manchester, England), Saturday, October 31, 1874
HEALD-KRABBE On the evening of 15th inst. at St John's Church, Buenos Ayres, by the Rev. Francis Smith, M.A., Walter second son of Nicholas Heald, of Bowdon, Cheshire, to Emily Isabel, second daughter of Charles Brehmer Krabbe of Buenos Ayres.
Well that tells us where his son got his name from!
and a death
Manchester Times (Manchester, England), Friday, May 25, 1894
HEALD - on 20th inst. aged 60 years, May, eldest daughter of Nicholas Heald of Bowdon, Cheshire.
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Let's try the Halls
1871 Groly? Place, Altrincham, Cheshire
John Hall Head M 36 Iron Merchant Lancashire Manchester
Kate Wife M 28 " "
Katherine Mary Hall daur 4 Cheshire Altrincham
Edith Byfield Hall daur 2 " "
John Hall son 1 " "
and servants
RG10; Piece: 3682; Folio: 142; Page: 40
1881 Sandal Grange, Sandal Magna, Yorkshire
William T Marriot is 59 Colliery Proprietor Yorkshire Wakefield and his wife, Mary B 51 Manchester, and children William H 26 a Worsted Spinner, Mary E 24, and Harriet K 21, children born Wakefield
Elizabeth B Hall Sister in Law Unm 54 Manchester
John Bro in Law 46 Iron Merchant Manchester
Kate Sister in Law 38 Manchester
and servants
RG11; Piece: 4571; Folio: 103; Page: 11
the children seem to have been left at home at The Grange, Hale, Cheshire
Katharine M Hall daur 14 Altrincham, Cheshire
Edith B daur 12 " "
John son 11 " "
Constance M daur 7 " "
Margaret E daur 5 Hale "
Ernest B son 3 " "
There were staff to look after them, Governess, Nurse, cook etc.
RG11; Piece: 3506; Folio: 28; Page: 22
1891 The Grange, Hale, Cheshire
John Hall Head M 56 Iron Merchant Lancashire Manchester
Kate Wife M 48 " "
John Son S 21 (with father) Cheshire Altrincham
Katharine M daur S 24 " "
Edith B daur S 22 " "
Constance M daur S 17 " "
Margaret E daur S 15 " Hale
and servants
RG12; Piece: 2825; Folio 72; Page 3
1901 The Grange, Hale, Cheshire
Kate Hall Head Wid 58 Lancashire Pendleton
Edith B daur S 32 Cheshire Altrincham
Constance M daur S 27 " "
Ernest B son S 23 Iron Merchant (Employer) Cheshire Hale
and Servants
RG13; Piece: 3324; Folio: 92; Page: 51.
Daily News (London, England), Saturday, January 2, 1897
WILLS AND BEQUESTS
The Will with a Codicil of Mr John Hall of The Grange, Hale near Chester and of 64 Port Street, Manchester, iron merchant who died on Nov 1, was proved on Dec 16 by Mrs Kate Hall, the widow, one of the executors, the value of the personal estate amounting to 83,520.
Ernest Byfield Hall married Emma Letitia Clegg Q1 1907 Bucklow 8a 259
Children Ernest Nicholas born 1908 and William Byfield 1910,
By 1911 Constance M is living in Malling, Kent, don't know what she's doing I'm afraid.
and Edith doesn't seem to have married as there is a death for Edith Byfield Hall in 1971 Stockport, Cheshire.
I believe Kate died in 1932 age 89.
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Snippets collected around the internet about the Halls
From The Staffordshire Encyclopedia, Staffordshire's History Online
Church Memorials - Hale
CHURCH. St Mary MEMORIALS Two boards have disappeared, ....... Ernest Byfield Hall of Hales Hall d1955. IN THE CHURCHYARD. Modern chest-tomb with coat of arms - Nora Constance Hall d1916 aged 9 months, William Byfield Hall d1937 aged 27, Emma Byfield Hall d1946, Ernest Byfield Hall d1953.
From the Irish Berry Genealogy site by Robert Fleetwood Berry
Susanna Natalie Osgood ......... married William Byfield Hall, b. 6 Sept 1910, d. 9 Oct 1937. died during operation. No children. She went on to marry Malcolm Kelty McLeod, their children would be too far distant for your interests I think.
It's a very common name so without the "Byfield" we wouldn't have had much luck at all.
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Don't know what you think but I think I've come to the end of any lines that I can follow forward without help. Please use that link I gave above and contact the owner of the site, I believe he will be able to put you in touch with other researchers of the Healds.
I hope you have some luck and please let me know if you find a descendant who will be interested in your vault.
This thread will be fairly near the top of any google searches so if anybody else is researching these names they should find it useful.
Good luck
Mary
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I know this is a while ago but do you know the address on West Beach Lytham they lived at as my gt gt grandmother name of Anne Sutterby ran a lodging house at number 8 in 1871 maybe she was also there in 1861
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I don't know if you are still investigating this line, but I am a 'Heald' descendant and would be glad to help if I can.
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Hello,
I've just seen your post whilst doing a bit of research myself. A chap called Alexander Glendenning owned (but not lived in) our farm in 1838 I believe...and I also think it's his son lying in your tomb. Looking at 1861, I'm pretty sure he had a wife called Sarah and together they had a daughter called Lily and then your Alexander.
I'm wondering where Ashgrove is? ...and is it linked to Nizels estate? as our farm was sold as part of the Nizels estate in 1919.
Any thoughts anyone ? Thank you in advance, Yvette