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Title: Useful? Documents
Post by: Hollander on Friday 22 January 10 20:52 GMT (UK)
I’ve been having a sort out, and have turned up the following documents and papers which I have picked up at one time or the other. If you think any of them might help with your research please let me know, and I will gladly send you a scanned copy, or a transcript, if scanning is not practicable.

1. Letter book containing approx 1500 ‘office copies’ of correspondence by Richard Sharples, Solicitor, Accrington, between March and November 1890.
He conducted business over a wide area of South Lancashire, and there are many different surnames listed in the index.

2. Short pedigree outlining descendants of Thomas Molyneux, of Liverpool.
Not dated (possibly early 19th c.). Associated surnames: Critchley, Phythian, Fleetwood.

3. Last will and testament, (original doc. ) William Henry Collinson, of Salesbury, Blackburn, Lancs. Probate 16th July 1828.

4. Indenture relating to release of land for construction of Factory Street, Blackburn, Lancashire, by Thomas Livesey, of Blackburn, Lancashire.
Dated 7th May 1840.

5. Last will and testament, (original doc. )  Thomas Livesey, Crabtree House, Brindle, Lancashire. Died 24th July 1847.

6. Schedule of Deeds relating to property held by James Livesey, of Blackburn, Lancashire, in Brindle, Blackburn, Liskeard and Wallasey.
Dated March 1867.

7. Last will and testament (original doc. ) Mary Bancroft, Bolton, Lancashire. Beneficiaries/Executors Siffrid Nevil Bancroft and Robert Nevil Bancroft.
Died 9th December 1875.

8. Letter to Mrs Christian Kerrish, Dreanskall(?), Haughold, Isle of Man, from Minnie Kerrish, Abingdon, Illinois, U.S.A. Dated August 23rd 1885.

9.Contract/Indenture relating to Timothy and Sarah Cooperthon (sic) of Skipton in Craven, Yorkshire, 1713.

10. Number of scrapbooks (early 1930s) relating to Thompson family, of 75 Silverdale Road, Rock Ferry, Cheshire.


Please contact me if any of the above will assist you in your research.
Title: Re: Useful? Documents
Post by: Britowl on Wednesday 01 September 10 15:38 BST (UK)
Hello, not sure if you have anything that is relevant to our family tree, but if you have anything relating to the surname FISHER then it might be of interest to us.  I have some research to do regarding Sharples Solicitors in connection with visits he made to my ancestors on business, but exactly what we don't know.  I need to make a trip to wherever the documents are now being held to establish if I can find anything relevant to us, so if you can help at all it would be very much appreciated.  Many thank.s
Title: Re: Useful? Documents
Post by: Hollander on Wednesday 01 September 10 15:54 BST (UK)
Hi Britowl.

Sorry, but no Fisher correspondence in the letter book.

It may be worth your while contacting Accrington Central Library, as they hold quite an amount of material relating to the solicitor Richard Sharples; he was a prominent figure in the town.

Alternatively, Lancashire RO may be able to help you.
Title: Re: Useful? Documents
Post by: Britowl on Wednesday 01 September 10 16:00 BST (UK)
Thank you for your prompt reply and helpful suggestions, very much appreciated.  I have contacted Lancashire Records offices but not the library, so thank you for that.
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Post by: johnforster on Thursday 25 November 10 22:38 GMT (UK)
I’ve been having a sort out, and have turned up the following documents and papers which I have picked up at one time or the other. If you think any of them might help with your research please let me know, and I will gladly send you a scanned copy, or a transcript, if scanning is not practicable.

1. Letter book containing approx 1500 ‘office copies’ of correspondence by Richard Sharples, Solicitor, Accrington, between March and November 1890.
He conducted business over a wide area of South Lancashire, and there are many different surnames listed in the index.

2. Short pedigree outlining descendants of Thomas Molyneux, of Liverpool.
Not dated (possibly early 19th c.). Associated surnames: Critchley, Phythian, Fleetwood.

3. Last will and testament, (original doc. ) William Henry Collinson, of Salesbury, Blackburn, Lancs. Probate 16th July 1828.

4. Indenture relating to release of land for construction of Factory Street, Blackburn, Lancashire, by Thomas Livesey, of Blackburn, Lancashire.
Dated 7th May 1840.

5. Last will and testament, (original doc. )  Thomas Livesey, Crabtree House, Brindle, Lancashire. Died 24th July 1847.

6. Schedule of Deeds relating to property held by James Livesey, of Blackburn, Lancashire, in Brindle, Blackburn, Liskeard and Wallasey.
Dated March 1867.

7. Last will and testament (original doc. ) Mary Bancroft, Bolton, Lancashire. Beneficiaries/Executors Siffrid Nevil Bancroft and Robert Nevil Bancroft.
Died 9th December 1875.

8. Letter to Mrs Christian Kerrish, Dreanskall(?), Haughold, Isle of Man, from Minnie Kerrish, Abingdon, Illinois, U.S.A. Dated August 23rd 1885.

9.Contract/Indenture relating to Timothy and Sarah Cooperthon (sic) of Skipton in Craven, Yorkshire, 1713.

10. Number of scrapbooks (early 1930s) relating to Thompson family, of 75 Silverdale Road, Rock Ferry, Cheshire.


Please contact me if any of the above will assist you in your research.

Title: Re: Useful? Documents
Post by: Britowl on Friday 26 November 10 08:43 GMT (UK)
Hello, thank you for posting a message. 

The letter book you have containing office copies of documents from Richard Sharples Solicitors Accrington between March and November 1890 might contain something relevant to our family, particularly if it involves the surname FISHER.  It relates to my illegitimate great grandfather John Thomas FISHER and maybe his mother Sarah FISHER and other persons, names currently unknown to us.

Having just recently contacted Preston Records Offices they have kindly informed me that the apparently hold almost a dozen boxes of totally uncatalogued material relating to the business of Richard Sharples and Sons Solicitors, Accrington, Lancashire.  Dates and details of their held documents totally unknown.  However, I don't live anywhere near there but at some point next year I will try to get there to start looking through what they have.  In the meantime if you have anything that seems remotely relevant I would really welcome being e-mailed any documents that appear relevant.  Other surnames perhaps associated with this could be RILEY. 

Thank you for posting a message with information, very much appreciated.  Would need to exchange e-mail addresses for document exchange etc.  I look forward to hearing from you - and again, thank you.
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Post by: johnforster on Friday 26 November 10 20:07 GMT (UK)
Hi
Regarding item 10, number of scrapbooks relating to Thompson family and item 6 property in liscard and wallasey.
My question is are there are references to John H Thompson married to Josephine Forster married 1921 from Hartington Road, Liscard, Wallasey?
Looking forward to your response!
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Post by: julieriddiough on Friday 26 November 10 23:42 GMT (UK)
Hi are there any refrences to  the Riddiough / Ridehalgh / Reddiough (or any other variations in the spelling)

thanks
Title: Re: Useful? Documents
Post by: Hollander on Saturday 27 November 10 02:38 GMT (UK)
Replies:-

John Forster Unfortunately the document (item 6) is presently out of my possession, John, When it is returned to me I will contact you.
Re the scrapbooks. No names are mentioned in them - any written references (short items about day trips and holidays) being to 'mother' and 'father' etc., and all photographs are press cuttings of news events at the time. The books however were the property of Eric Clifford Thompson (1921 to 1977), of the address given at Rock Ferry.

julieriddiough No mention of the surnames given in any of documents I'm afraid, Julie.

Britowl I am presently checking the letter book, Britowl. The pages are made of tissue paper for use in a letter press, and quite fragile, so it is taking a little while. I will contact you with any results.
Title: Re: Useful? Documents
Post by: johnforster on Monday 29 November 10 22:55 GMT (UK)
Thank you for your response, look forward to hearing from you.
Regards
John
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Post by: juliamary on Tuesday 20 March 12 13:26 GMT (UK)
Hi there
I've just been googling my husband's family and came across your entry.  The Richard Sharples you mention is his great-grandfather who I beleive was active in the formation of the Accrington Pals in WW1.  He's the one sitting next to the mayor in the Officers photo looking very youthful for someone who is about to retire! Its all a bit confusing as there are three generations of solicitors all called Richard.
 

 


 
Title: Re: Useful? Documents
Post by: Britowl on Tuesday 20 March 12 18:17 GMT (UK)
Hi  Thank you for your post and the photograph.  All very interesting.  What can you tell me about the photograph?  And is Richard Sharples sitting to the right or left of the mayor?!  Yes, I believe that Richard Sharples was the 'acting' Colonel of the Accrington Pals when it was formed albeit as a non military person himself, hence the 'acting' role.  I believe that he held the position for a few months - maybe more, until a military officer was found to run the unit etc.  I don't currently have my family information to hand but it would be good to find out a bit more information from you.  Thanks.
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Post by: juliamary on Wednesday 21 March 12 10:28 GMT (UK)
Hello again
Thanks for coming back so quickly.  The photo comes from the Accrington Pals website and I think it is also in the book of the same title but I do not have it to hand to check for sure.  The website is well worth a visit lots of background describing the recruitment process which I think was where Richard Sharples was involved.  He seems to have been a sort of territorial or militia member for many years.  They actually started recruiting before Kitchener made his public appeal for pals regiments so they were ahead of the game.  Richard Sharples is the one to the left of the mayor without a moustache and with his legs uncrossed. I think he was acting colonel for a few months as you say then he retired in 1915 and never went to France. It must have been uncomfortable for him when the pals were decimated and he was at home with all the bereaved families. His own son, the second Richard went into the RFC or RAF so no trenches for him! Richard senior died in 1929.
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Post by: Britowl on Wednesday 21 March 12 12:45 GMT (UK)
Hello

Yes, the photo is in the Accrington Pals book as I just had a look at my copy.  It may well also be on the website.  My grandfather was an Accrington Pal and so I have already had the pleasure at looking through their extensive website and hence the reason we also have the book.  My grandfather is mentioned a couple of times in the book as he was interviewed about his experiences.  We also sent copies of some of my grandfather's documents to be placed on the website.  My grandfather was one of many going 'over the top' on the first day of the battle of the Somme, finding himself standing alone and wounded whilst everyone else around him had been decimated so I have a family interest in this area.  My grandfather is supposed to have joined the Pals because a relative (Richard Sharples) was part of it, but quite how they are related is not yet known or confirmed and maybe we will never know what the connection is.  My great aunt remembers Richard Sharples making regular visits with a companion to the family home to make payments to the family, from where or from whom or for what reason are unclear, but it has something to do with them being linked by family or so the story goes - those relatives are sadly no longer with us, so all we have to go on are their notes.  Some day I must go to Lancashire to look out the many boxes of archived records that are held which relate to the Sharples Solicitor's business to see if I can glean any answers from there, but that is for another time another day. 

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Post by: lori82 on Tuesday 13 November 12 00:20 GMT (UK)
Hi

 The Richard Sharples in the photo is my Great Great Grandfather, his son Richard Edgar who was in the RFC later the RAF is my Great grandfather and his son Richard Leslie is my Grandfather.  I am interested where your husband comes into the tree if you don't mind.
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Post by: juliamary on Tuesday 13 November 12 23:15 GMT (UK)
Hi
My husband is Anthony Keith son of Richard Leslie and he has one brother who lives in Lowford, Hampshire so are you related to him?
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Post by: lori82 on Wednesday 14 November 12 08:30 GMT (UK)
Hi Auntie!

 Dad is Michael Lyon who is Anthony's brother.

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Post by: juliamary on Wednesday 14 November 12 09:07 GMT (UK)
Hi
Good to make contact!!  For a moment thought I had discovered a ghastly Sharples secret, given Richard Leslie's mysterious disappearance there is always a possibility.  Assume you must be Lorraine.  Tony was with your parents last week when he was over in Hampshire and had a good catchup session, but given that he is a man he didn't ask all the questions I would have asked so I am a bit vague about where you are and what you're doing so hope you will keep in touch.  Talk soon.  Julia
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Post by: lori82 on Wednesday 14 November 12 15:37 GMT (UK)
Hi

I must say I was thinking the same thing.  Haven't really come across any Sharples secrets yet.        I am indeed Lorraine, I have been given the task of researching both Mum and Dad's family trees which can be a bit confusing.  Dad was saying he used to have a photo of Richard Edgar standing by his aeroplane but lost it, would you happen to have a copy?

I live in Sholing which is about a 10 minute drive from my parents, they said he was over but I was working so didn't get to see him.

Lorraine
Title: Re: Useful? Documents
Post by: lori82 on Friday 31 January 14 16:55 GMT (UK)
Hi Hollander

Re: Letter book containing approx 1500 ‘office copies’ of correspondence by Richard Sharples, Solicitor, Accrington, between March and November 1890.
He conducted business over a wide area of South Lancashire, and there are many different surnames listed in the index.


I an the great great granddaughter of Richard Sharples and I was wondering if could send me copies of the letters?  I would prefer to buy the originals from you if it was at all possible to give to my father.
I look forward to hearing from you

Lorraine

Title: Re: Useful? Documents
Post by: Treetotal on Saturday 01 February 14 13:45 GMT (UK)
Hi Lorraine...Hollander hasn't been on Rootschat since April last year...but if you send a Personal Message by clicking on the scroll beneath his name then you may get a reply if his email is current.
Carol
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Post by: lori82 on Saturday 01 February 14 16:16 GMT (UK)
Hi Carol

Thanks I didn't realise you could send a message.  Just tried doing that but it didn't work unfortunately, it said that messages were blocked.  Fingers crossed he gets an email to say I commented on here.

Lorraine
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Post by: pollydog1 on Monday 03 February 14 00:46 GMT (UK)
Hollander. Could you please share info on No7, Mary Bancroft, I would be most grateful. Regards.
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Post by: chrissie49 on Saturday 06 September 14 21:15 BST (UK)
Hi
Am interested in will of Mary Bancroft.  I am researching her brother Siffrid who is mentioned as executor.  Would love a copy
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Post by: Duals on Wednesday 30 December 15 23:26 GMT (UK)
My mum was Margaret, sister of Leslie, Keith, Alec, gordon, and Elizabeth. I am sure we had/ have a photo of their father standing next to a plane. I shall have a look when I get a minute.
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Post by: Joney on Thursday 21 January 16 21:25 GMT (UK)
Hi,
Just looked at item 8 on your list. As the address is in the Isle of Man, I am fairly sure the surname you have transcribed as 'Kerrish' is in fact 'Kerruish' a recognisably Manx surname. Thought this may help any interested researchers to find this post.

Joney
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Post by: SunyBay on Sunday 21 February 16 18:24 GMT (UK)
This is for lori82 and juliamary. I am the great-granddaughter of Richard Edgar Sharples (I am the granddaughter of Margaret, who was Richard Leslie's sister) and would be interested in sharing information if you're still around.

Helen
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Post by: Ray1950 on Sunday 21 May 17 12:38 BST (UK)
Hello
I am interested in item 5, last will and testament of Thomas Livesey. There is a memorial to him and his wife in Hoghton Church and I am researching the history of this and other memorials in the church. It would be interesting to see this.

thanks
Ray Clayton