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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Derry (Londonderry) => Topic started by: rob g on Monday 25 January 10 19:12 GMT (UK)
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hi, all i am looking for info on william james morton. maghere,no birth date. but he was wed to a mary anne nielly in ulster 1871, he had a son andrew in 1877 born in maghere ireland. he wed a rachel flockhart fife scotland. and seems to have settelled in glasgow.as he had a son andrew born circa 1906 in glasgow and the family are all living there now.did not know till now. we were of irish descent. any help would be great.rob g
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Rob
I have found what looks like your marriage in Co Londonderry.
20 Jun 1871 William James Morton married Mary Anne Neilly in Termoneeny Church of Ireland Magherafelt. Their son was most likely born in Maghera, a small town on the southern side of the Sperrin Mountains overlooking Lough Neagh.
The Moderator will probably move this post to Co. Londonderry
Regards
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I've moved your post from Antrim to Londonderry board for reasons that will be obvious when you read further.
IGI (International Genealogical Index) lists Andrew MORTON as born 5 July 1877 Maghera district, Co. Londonderry- parents William James Morton and Mary Anne Neilly.
They also had a daughter Annie Matilda MORTON born 21 Dec.1878 Co.Londonderry.
See www.familysearch.org
If you wish to order the birth certificates to find eact place of birth you can look up the index details here-
http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=collectionDetails;t=searchable;c=1408347
You can also search there for the parents' marriage (look up each separately then cross-reference results for matching details).
1911 census is online (1901 will soon be added) and you can search for Mortons here-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search
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Rob,
Some extra information which is circumstantial. The Griffiths valuation of 1858 ( a survey of all property for rateable value) gives only one Morton family in the parish of Maghera. This was a James Morton who rented a House and farm in the townland of CURRAN and also rented some land in the nearby townland of TOBERHEAD. Curran is about 4 miles SE of the town of Maghera on the A6 road and Toberhead is East of that.
Regards
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hi all, thank you all for your reply, they were very helpful.and were the right people,if theres anything else please let me know. william james morten. fits as andrews father.but need more info on james morton to be sure he is williams james father. how could i find out when andrew born 1877 left ireland or arrived in scotland, thanks again for taking the time to reply.rob g
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Records weren't, and still aren't, kept of people travelling between Ireland and other parts of the U.K. so you'll probably only be able to narrow down date of arrival in Scotland with sources like census records and birth/marriage/death records.
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thanks for your prompt reply, aghadowey, and to all who answered.rob g
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Rob,
I have been doing some look-ups for a lady, local to me, and I think that her ancestor may be related to yours. He was Solomon Morton of Ballynockan in the area of Curran. I am not sure if she is aware of this site but when I next see her, probably next week, I will tell her about it.
Regards
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hi, king s. thanks for the reply, it would be great to hear of any relations, hope to hear from you soon please feel free to tell the person to contact me at this site, thanks again, rob g
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I'm related to one of the above Mortons - to James Morton of Toberhead - but I don't have any William or William James in the tree that I know of - and Francis seems to be a well used family name. I would be interested to know of the descendants of Soloman Morton as I have a different Morton: David marrying into my Hueston family in 1913.
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Hi,
Children of Solomon Morton and Isabella Smyth, who married on 25 Oct 1861 in Curran Presbyterian Church, Maghera were:-
1864 Andrew
1866 Andrew
1868 Samuel
1871 Maryanne
1873 Mary
1875 Andrew.
It appears that some died young and there may be others whom I could not find.
Regards
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You have missed out a couple of Isabella's children that I know of from the 1911 Census (all Presbyterian, born Co.Derry):
Bella Morton, 67, Female, Head of Family, Read and write, Widow, m.49 years, 12 children/9 living
Francis Morton, 48, Male, Son, Farmer, Read and write, Single
Annie Morton, 39, Female, Dau, Read and write, Single
Minnie Morton, 37, Female, Dau, Read and write, Single
Lizzie Morton, 31, Female, Dau, Read and write, Single
I was hoping that David was one of the ones not listed - note at the time of the 1911 census she had 12 children of which 9 were still alive. I do wonder whether this family is related to mine due to the name Francis popping up in it.
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Hi,
If you look on the IGI, part of www.familysearch.org you will find a submitted family group starting with Francis, born 1779, his marriage to Mary Sands in 1804, both events just Co.Londonderry. However 6 sons are listed as born in Castledawson between 1807 and 1819, John, Samuel, David, James, Solomon and Francis. I have found what I think are the families of Solomon and Francis and the names keep occurring, but not David. I cannot find families of the other 4 sons.
Regards
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James Morton I've calculated to be born before 1820 based on the age of one of his sons so I suspect that I do link to that tree. I know of two of James sons; Francis from whom I descend and also a David - mentioned on James's headstone - but the detail had crumbled away so I was unable to read it. I need to look at the records of Castledawson Presbyterian to see if the information is recorded there.
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Castledawson Presbyterian Church records on microfilm at PRONI (and Coleraine Library)-
Baptisms 1809-1941 & possibly 1703-1706?
Marriages 1805-1889, 1890-1932
Session Minutes 1831-1850, 1905
Communicants 1847/48
Also marriages 1848- here-
www.magheragenealogy.com/presbyterian_church_records
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I have a Francis Morton born around 1842 married to Jane Tipping on the 7th February 1862, in Castledawson Presbyterian Church, they had at least 8 children that I know off
James born 3rd Jan 1863
Unknown Born 29th July 1864
Francis 16th Apr 1866
Thomas 14th May 1867
Mary Jane 12th June 1869
David 12th Aug 1871
Andrew 16th September 1873
George 2nd September 1877.
Thomas went to America, 1910 census living at 5117 Broad Street Pittsburg City, Pa. Occupation Water Tender
My interest is in the Tipping side of the family
Regards
Karen
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Hi,
I have found the Morton/Tipping marriage but have no knowledge of Jane Tipping. However the Tipping name appears in the IGI in the Magherafelt District. The Griffiths Valuation of 1859 also gives a few Tipping families. The 1831 Census (Head of house only) gives an Ed. Tipper (sic) in Ballyscullion and a Thomas Tippin (Sic) in Magherafelt. The Flax Growers Register of 1796 gives no variation of the name. Not much help but the best I can find.
Regards
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Remembered that I have details of the 1901 census entry for the Solomon Morton Family as well and it is as follows:
1901 Census from my notes:
Solomon Head P 70 Farmer
Isabella Wife 50
Thomas Son 32 FS
Annie Dau 27 FD
Mary Dau 25 FD
Andrew Son 23 FS
Eliza Dau 20 FD
Samual Son 18 Tailor
David Son 16 FS
And the 1911 census lists that at that time she had 12 children 9 alive.
I'd forgotten about those long ago notes so it does show that potentially I may have found the David Morton I'd been looking for - I'll have to wait for the certificate to find out. Or equally my notes show there is potentially yet another David Morton living in Curran too.
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HI summertime...the David Morton you are speaking about is my grandfather..i am working to connect Solomon to my own tree from james and mary both decd 1887
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Hi
BLLYNOCKER
children of Solomon.......
fRANCIS/dAVID/mARYANN/mINNIE/ eLIZA(LIZZIE)/MAGGIE died without family Samuel was the beneficiey on their deaths