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Hi all
Am attempting a difficult one . Trying to find extra info on a richard strike who was born in houghton county durham in 1900 to parents unknown but married a lilian smith in 1922 in Leeds and then died himself in Leeds in 1932 aged 32. Apparently the death was suspicious , maybe a poisoning??? Not sure about that one till death certificate comes through. Can anyone out there find any info on this man or his family . I know this is a hard one-sorry. Think he and lilian had three or four children, doreen, rose, arthur and richard .
frankieb
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Just linking to your other request to avoid duplication :)
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,433637.0.html
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Frankieb,
I think that I may have found the details of when and where both Richard and Lilian are buried. No details are given as to cause of death.
If you do not already have this information and would like the details, let me know and I will post them for you.
Best Wishes
CJL
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thanks cjl-i would love this info if you have it. I am doing it for a lady who's grandfather is richard strike. She told me she will send off for the death certificate so until then i thought id call on you brilliant roots chatters to do a bit of digging. I have Strike ancestors but mine are from cornwall so it was a strange coincidence when this lady came up enquiring about Strikes-i could not resist but get involved even though they are not really my Strikes-well not yet anyway. She is going to get Lilian and Richards marriage certificate too and maybe both lilian and richards death certificate-then she will know for sure what each died of. All the children were adopted out or put into childrens homes so it is a sad story anyway. Think thats why i wanted to help as she has no photos of any of her family or grandparents. Thanks for all your help on here-you are amazing. I will tell her where i got my info from too-she has no computer herself but will say how good you all are.
frankie
ps i work in a library and i was sitting in the reference /community history when this lady appeared-coincidences like this happen all the time. I told her that Strike is possibly a cornish name and she was surprised-as she thought all her family was from yorkshire. Then it turns out henry was from devon area anyway. Cant find his christening though or birth on the things i have available. Found one in 1853 in tavistock-he could be a possibility??
Frankie
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Frankieb,
Here are the details which I found.
Burial Harehills Cemetery, Leeds
Richard Strike
Buried 29th July 1932
Age 32 years
Birth Year 1900
Grave Section Y
Grave Number 547
Type Consecrated
Register 1
Page 392
Burial Entry Number 15647
There are a further 11 people listed as being buried in the same grave all in 1932 and who would appear to be unrelated.
Burial Harehills Cemetery
Lilian Strike
Buried 10th September 1934
Age 32 years
Birth Year 1902
Grave Section Y
Grave Number 582
Type Consecrated
Register 1
Page 433
Burial Entry Number 17312
There are a further 13 people listed as been buried in the same grave all in 1934 and who would appear to be unrelated.
I hope that this information is of some use to the lady whom you are helping and wish you both good luck in your future research.
Best Wishes
CJL
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Thanks cjl-that sounds like a paupers grave then??? Maybe the theory that he was a doctor is completely wrong then. Unless he was some kind of quack??? The lady was under impression he was a doctor-well i suppose she will find out if she gets the death certificate.
thanks again.
Have told her she might be best to travel to leeds if she gets some interesting info from the death cert.-because maybe something will be in the papers if it is a poisoning or somehting like that??
many thanks
frankie
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Frankieb,
You are most welcome. Just a thought, might it be worth contacting the local paper? If Richard's death was due to poisoning there might have been an article in the newspaper at the time. I do know that the current main Leeds newspaper is the Yorkshire Evening Post, although I am not certain in which year it was founded.
Best Wishes
CJL
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Hi ...
I wonder if he is the one that shows in the Army Pensions listing on "A".
Richard Strike age 18years 1 month height 5' 7 1/2"
next of kin William Henry Strike
22 Mulgrave St Sunderland.
occupation on enlisting cartman.
9 pages .
Tazzie
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Frankieb.
It might be worth taking a look at this web site www.harehillstoday.co.uk there is a section entitled Harehills Family History and you are able to e mail requesting help tracing your family history. Might be a long shot but nothing to loose by e mailing them.
Please let me know how you get on.
Best Wishes
CJL
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This looks like Henry in 1861, so the 1853 birth registration in Tavistock looks pretty good
1861
RG9/1459 6 6
Whitchurch, Devon
(Tavistock registration district)
Plymo Old Rd
Richard Strike, head, 40, Labourer, b. Tavistock
Elizabeth, wife, 43, b. do.
William, son, 15, Mine Labourer, b. do.
Jane, dau, 11, b. do.
Henry, son, 7, b. Whitchurch
Richard, son, 4, b. do.
Sarah, dau, 1, b. do.
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Frankieb,
On A*** there are details of World War 1 Service Records relating to a Richard Strike enlisting in April 1918 aged 17 years and ten months, who gives his address as Perserverance Street, Stourton. Stourton is a district of Leeds. This Richard also states that his place of birth was Houghton Le Spring. He lists his brother living at the same address as his next of kin.
If you don't have access to the service records on A*** let me know.
Best Wishes
CJL
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thanks tati, cjl and tazzie
No-i havent got access to the army pensions thing-where do you get that-is it on ancestry. I have access at work sometimes for free to most of ancestry-trouble is i dont get time to go on -i would have to go on in my lunch break and i like to eat sometimes!!!!
So thanks for that info. It sounds like it could be him dont you think??? Thing is though, on one of the census it has his brother down as william james strike. I did wonder wether henry strike the dad maybe is named william henry strike and thats why i cant track a birth for him?? Though he is listed on the census as henry his birth name may be william Henry??? Its funny too that my strikes from cornwall are richard and william henry-not the same but maybe connected down the line somewhere.?
Will suggest to the lady that she contacts the yorkshire post too-thanks-i already rang the library and asked if there was anything in the obituary index and she said not.
Think we have done well between us all-cant wait now for the lady to come back in. She started off not even knowing her grandfathers first name-only the last name.
thanks again.
will post on here if i get any news. thanks again
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Does it definately say brother for next of kin then??? If they got an army pension does it mean they were wounded in the war??? Does it list the injury perhaps???
frankie
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FrankieB,
It definately states next of kin brother. I will send you a pm.
Best Wishes
CJL
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My mum is Richard strikes daugher Doreen strike I am Doreen's daughter lell shaw lov to hear from u xxxxx
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Hiya i am the granddaughter of arthur strike my email is (*) please ask anyone to email me with enquiries as we never knew our distant family due to Arthur been in care he died in year 2000 but him and my grandma maurgurite had 9 children together thanks
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Just putting that death:
GRO
Arthur Strike born 1930 Died Q4/2000 in Rotherham
Rummerhedison, you will be asked to remove your emailaddress, and then you will need to make one or two more postings for people to contact you through the rootschat emails.
Nobody got back to Lell after her posting in 2014, but you may be more fortunate.
For information:
Births September quarter 1922 Richard Strike mmn Smith Leeds
Births March quarter 1925 Doreen Strike mmn Smith Leeds
Births December quarter 1927 Rose Strike mmn Smith Leeds
Births September quarter 1930 Arthur Strike Smith Leeds North
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Rose's death, via several trees on Ancestry:
Rose Dudytsch
Born 18th October 1927 died June quarter 1999 in Derby
1st marriage to Bingham, cannot see second 'marriage', this death also recorded:
Rose Bingham Born 18th October 1927 died June quarter 1999 in Derby
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Hi, Richard Strike 1900-1932 was my Great Grandad, I know this post be old but if you need any info on Richard please let me know and I'll answer where I can.
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Hiya Richard strike would be my great grandad too! Can I ask who your grandad/grandma was please? Our grandad is Arthur he had 6 girls and 2 boys. So we have a lot of family on our side. Unfortunately he lost touch with his family as he was in care from age 2. Thanks!
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Hi, Richard and Lillian had 4 kids, Doreen born 1925 was my Grandma.
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I believe we spoke to lell. We shared some pictures we both had of both sides of the family. Your Grandma Doreen looked just like my grandad Arthur too! Do you have much information about out great grandad Richard?
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Yes Lell is my Aunt. Only info I have is what I have picked up from the I-net as he and his wife died when my grandma was still young, therefore she didn't have many memories of them. I believe Doreen went to live with an Aunt and the other kids were put into care due to there ages. The Strike gene must be strong if Arthur looked like Doreen because I was able to get a picture of the eldest brother (Richard 1922) and he was the double of my dad
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Wow....
This was back in 2010 when this thread was started. This is why I love the internet you've found a connection 13 years later.
Hope you can share your family info guys best of luck.
Tazzie.
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I think I found information that they died in a car accident apparently this was when my grandad was only 2 I know he went into a care home in Leeds with his sister Rose but this she was sent to Australia and they lost touch after that. Be interesting to see photos of us all to see if we bear any resemblence! We all live in Rotherham we have a huge family on our side.
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I believe it was a family story regarding their deaths (car accident). Richard 1900-1932 died of Intestinal Obstruction, no P.M. and Lillian Strike (Smith) 1902-1934 died of another illness I'd rather not put on here. Richard and Lillian were married in 1922 in Leeds and lived about a 10 mins walk from where I live now. I and my family (descendants of Doreen) still live in Leeds although Doreen and her family (except my dad) lives/lived in Lancashire. Doreen sadly passed in 2019 aged 94
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One thing I regret is not doing the family tree earlier as they all seem to have lived to a healthy age and it would of been brilliant to have had them all meet up again, considering the short distance they all lived.
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Really sorry to hear of your grandma Doreen passing. We all had virtually no information as he was really young. I would be interested to know a bit about them and what they worked as etc. Thankyou for the info too!