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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Cornwall => Topic started by: AllStar on Thursday 28 January 10 19:25 GMT (UK)
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Hi I was wondering if anyone on here has links to the Tambling/Tamblyn/Tamlin family?
I am mostly concerned with an Alfred John Tambling born abt 1883/4, but I cannot find any birth record for him. His mother (I think) was a Ann/a Maria Tambling Mar qtr 1862, died Dec qtr 1897.
He is on the cenus with her and her parents, his grandparents in 1891 as an 8 yr old in East Looe, and just his grandparents (after Ann's death) in the same place in the 1901 cenus, aged 18.
I have no idea who his father is, and even have surpisions that one of Ann's brother's Alfred, might in fact be his father, instead of Ann being his mother, as Alfred died aged 20 the year after/of Alfred the second's birth, so would (obv) not be around.
I have his grandparents as John and Jane, but no idea of Jane's maiden name. I know they married between (I think) 1841, and when thier 1st son was born in 1844, but have no clear leads.
Can somebody please help with all this?
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Hi
Have been looking at you family tried to track them back through census I know you are trying to find you Alfred, sometimes you find thing by looking at the family.
Its hard when the family name keeps getting spelled different ways
Ok
1891 census RG12 1812/98/13
Head of house
John Tamblin b 1825 Duloe gen lab
jane b 1825 b east looe
ann daughter b1863 east looe
alfred son b1883 b east looe
I don't see a birth for alfred
I have tracked the family back to 1851 there are a good few other children
1881 RG11 2287 110/21
1871 cannot see them (except son Edward RG10 2141 /87/40)
1861 Rg09 1531/162/15
1851 H0107 1902/283/19
I dont see amarriage for John To Jane they had their first son John in 1844 so they must have married some time before that?
maybe some one else can see your Alfred.
good luck
cheers cardiff ;) ???
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1871 RG10/2243 Folio 6 Page 4 (enumerated "Tamlyn")
Fore Street, East Looe, Cornwall
John Tamlyn 47 Labourer Duloe
Jane 47 Pelynt?
Edwin 11 Scholar Morval
Annie M 9 E Looe
Alfred 7 E Looe
Annie J 3 E Looe
Regards
Cat
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Feb 15 1861 Annie Maria baptised East/West Looe to parents John and Jane.
Fizzy
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Thanks everyone. Infomation on Alfred and John/Jane marriage is mainly what I am looking for tho, as I already have a lot on the family.
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Alfred (1883) baptism does not appear in the East/West Looe register.
Can I just ask how you know that Alfred was Alfred John ?
Fizzy
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possible birth reg
Alfred John Tambling dec qtr 1884 Liskeard vol 5c pg 60
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Fizzybubble - thanks for looking, I know he is called Alfred John because it is on his marriage index.
Osprey - Thanks. Where did you find that?
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on FreeBmd
http://www.freebmd.org.uk/
think I searched on Tam* to catch variants rather than using the phonetic search.
;)
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I think that ones a Albert instead of a Alfred, but i'm looking into it, thanks.
AllStar
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Hi
I wonder if you could find a marriage for Alfred. Perhaps it may hold some clue as to his parentage;
possibles;
Alfred Tambling to either Bessie Pengelly or Emma Jane Toms
dec q 1902
Liskeard
vol 5c pg 98
Alfred Tamblin to either Mabel Honey or Mary Jane Worden
dec q 1907
Liskeard
Vol 5c pg 121
oops I have just seen this;
Fizzybubble - thanks for looking, I know he is called Alfred John because it is on his marriage index.
So do you have his Marriage cert? I can't find a marriage of an Alfred John .... :-\
will keep looking
deb
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Hi
Looking at the 1911 index
there is this family living in Liskeard
Alfred Tambling b 1883 ... he still does not include a middle name of John
Emma Jane b 1882
Alfred John b 1905
Lily May b 1907
William Ernest b 1906
There some other children born in the Liskeard reg. district who have MMN as TOMS. :)
deb
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Hi
I wonder if you could find a marriage for Alfred. Perhaps it may hold some clue as to his parentage;
oops I have just seen this;
Fizzybubble - thanks for looking, I know he is called Alfred John because it is on his marriage index.
So do you have his Marriage cert? I can't find a marriage of an Alfred John .... :-
will keep looking
deb
Oops look like I might be wrong since the 1902 marriage to Emma is defintely him, but it doesn't have a middle name on. I think that might just be what I have been told. I have that index already, but not a marriage certifate for it. I must try and get it, but i'm trying to find his birth without it, because of money.
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Hi
Looking at the 1911 index
there is this family living in Liskeard
Alfred Tambling b 1883 ... he still does not include a middle name of John
Emma Jane b 1882
Alfred John b 1905
Lily May b 1907
William Ernest b 1906
There some other children born in the Liskeard reg. district who have MMN as TOMS. :)
deb
Yes, thats my family. I already have that 1911 index, but it would be great to have the indexes for all the Tambling/Toms children please. Thanks
AllStar
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Hi
These are the other children :
Beatrice M Tambling
Sept q 1913
MMN: TOMS
Liskeard
5c 96
Florence M Tambling
June q 1915
MMN: TOMS
Liskeard
5c 86
I still cannot find the birth reg for Alfred. Hope fully the marriage cert will reveal something.
Deb
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Hi
These are the other children :
I still cannot find the birth reg for Alfred. Hope fully the marriage cert will reveal something.
Deb
Thanks for that, and i'll try to get the marriage cert ASAP.
AllStar
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Hi Allstar
I have also been looking for John Tambling's marriage to Jane... with no luck.
I see John in 1841 with his parents and sister.
Janes birth place varies:
1881 = Looe
1871 = Pelynt
1861 and 1851 = Talland
i have been searching 1841 for Janes from those areas and trying to find their marriages ...no luck yet!
I think that in order for you to research jane's family you may also need to invest in a birth cert of one of their children. :-\
deb
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Hi Allstar
I have also been looking for John Tambling's marriage to Jane... with no luck.
I see John in 1841 with his parents and sister.
Janes birth place varies:
1881 = Looe
1871 = Pelynt
1861 and 1851 = Talland
i have been searching 1841 for Janes from those areas and trying to find their marriages ...no luck yet!
I think that in order for you to research jane's family you may also need to invest in a birth cert of one of their children. :-\
deb
Thanks, will one of jane's children's birth cert. show Jane's madien name?
AllStar
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Hi Allstar
Yes, the birth cert should state her maiden name.
At least then, you can follow her family .... :)
Keep us updated!
deb
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Hi Allstar
Yes, the birth cert should state her maiden name.
At least then, you can follow her family .... :)
Keep us updated!
deb
Thanks, when I have a cash flow I will get both Alfred's marriage cert. and one of Jane's childrens birth cert. It may take a while tho. Thanks again,
AllStar
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Hi i have the birth certificate for Alfred John Tambling b1882 East Looe
Father was Robert Wright seaman no other info
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well, it looks like Robert Wright & Ann Maria Tamblin had been intending to marry. The banns for the marriage were read 3,10,17 Sep 1882 but noted in the Banns Register that they did not marry.
http://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/search-database/more-info/?t=banns&id=96586
Robert will have needed to be present at the registration for his name to be on the certificate at that time.
The 1881 census has a Robert Wright aged 24 AB seaman born Plymouth on board the vessel "Ann Walters" in the Bristol Channel, but her home port was Looe Port of Fowey RG11/2248 folio 123, but I can't see him on the census after that.
Are you the same person as the original poster? If not, welcome to Rootschat!
:D
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Hi I only found this root chat today. Alfred Tambling was my grandfather.He was Looe town cryer and the lamp lighter.
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looks like you're related to All Star then. Once you've made another post, you'll be able to send All Star a personal message by clicking on the icon under their name that looks like a letter.
;D
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Just out of interest. The original 1881 Crew Agreement of ANN WALTERS showing Robert Wright as an AB is here.
http://www.mun.ca/mha/1881/crews1881.php
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Hi thanks for the info ,very interesting stuff ,it clears up the history about our missing family member. Will be able to search more about Robert Wright now. It seems that he is the "Wright"
person
Thanks again
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Hi I have just seen this seen this post today.
I did get the birth certificate for Alfred and it gave the same information Copperpunt has said.
It's also amazing that Copperpunt is related :) I am going to PM him/her.
Thank you osprey for your information, I never knew about the marriage banns.
I have come across the Robert Wright on the 'Ann Walters' as a possibly, but I have never seen the original agreement, thanks seaweed.
Looks like me and copperpunt have some more research to look into.
Thank you
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I believe I am related to this person but struggling to find many details or see how they fit on my tree.
Any help would be great thank you.
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Hi Red01,
I have just seen this message.
Who do you think you are related to? Alfred or Robert?
If you post 3 times you can private message me.
Thanks