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The following marriages are all of folks that are twigs on my family tree and database covering the Cosford Registration District in Suffolk.
In an attempt to fill in all missing details on my file I have searched through the marriage records of all the parishes in the Cosford area. However, I could not find these marriages.
I expect that they probably are all Non-Conformist or Register Office Marriages, but wondered if anyone has them on their file them and could provide me with the full marriage details.
Sep Qtr 1838 - Robert GREEN & Hannah ABBOTT.
Dec Qtr 1838 Theophilus SPOONER & Mary DEEKS.
Dec Qtr 1840 John COUSINS & Amy LONDON.
Sep Qtr 1857 Joshua T. AMOS & Sarah BALDRY.
Dec Qtr 1858 Stribling George GANT & Emma HOLDEN.
Jun Qtr 1862 James KEMBLE & Mary Elizabeth GANT.
Dec Qtr 1862 Thomas GLEED & Eleanor LISTER.
Dec Qtr 1862 Albert FENNING & Matilda STRIBLING.
Jun Qtr 1864 Joseph PITTUCK & Sarah NEWMAN.
Mar Qtr 1867 Isaac PITTUCK & Hannah SMITH.
Dec Qtr 1869 Walter GANT & Esther JOSLIN.
Jun Qtr 1874 James BECKETT & Mary NEWMAN.
Mar Qtr 1876 Henry CARNELL & Mary HOLDER.
Mar Qtr 1876 William UNDERWOOD & Mary PALMER.
Mar Qtr 1877 Thomas HINES & Elizabeth RAMSEY.
Dec Qtr 1878 Alfred GRIMWADE & Jane BUCKLEDEE.
Dec Qtr 1880 Frederick TURNER & Amelia CRICK.
Dec Qtr 1880 George REVANS & Harriet DOUBLE.
Mar Qtr 1882 Patrick HISKEY & Emma WARNER.
Sep Qtr 1882 William REVANS & Mary A. KEEBLE.
Dec Qtr 1882 Samuel MOUGHTON & Emma LLOYD.
Jun Qtr 1883 Arthur CHISNALL & Lydia REVANS.
Jun Qtr 1883 Frederick HOLDER & Ellen KEEN.
Sep Qtr 1884 Alfred KEEBLE & Maria CLARK.
Dec Qtr 1885 Charles ELMER & Elizabeth HOLDER.
Mar Qtr 1886 John FARTHING & Alice HOLDER.
Jun Qtr 1888 John NICE & Mary A. HYNARD.
Sep Qtr 1889 George GRIGGS & Susan BRETT.
Jun Qtr 1893 Theophilus SPOONER & Harriet LINES.
Sep Qtr 1893 Henry KENNINGTON & Louisa CLARKE.
Dec Qtr 1893 George TAYLOR & Emily WELHAM.
Dec Qtr 1894 William FENNING & Bertha VINCE.
Mar Qtr 1896 Alfred UNDERWOOD & Mary WATSON.
Dec Qtr 1897 George SKIPPINGS & Eliza LAFLIN.
Dec Qtr 1897 Charles FENNER & Ellen TRICKER.
Jun Qtr 1898 John BAKER & Louisa BEAUMONT.
Sep Qtr 1898 Opha HEAD & Alice STOWE.
None of these are close enough family to justify the cost of purchasing the certificate, but if anyone else has already done so, I would be very grateful to receive details.
I am, of course, very happy to share information with those interested in these folks.
Many thanks,
Kevin Scott
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I see you live in Ipswich
Have you been to the Local Record Office there?
You will then be able to check any surviving Non conforminst registers and Parish Records yourself.
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Hi,
Yes, I am only a 10 minute walk from the Suffolk Record Office and visit there most weeks.
The reason for my posting is that I have checked all the parish records in the Cosford area (it took several months to do this!) and very few non-conformist records have survived.
I was simply wondering if anyone else recognised these names and had the details in their database.
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Hi,
Albert Robert Taylor FENNING and Matilda Adelaide STRIBLING were married in Cosford Register Office on 30 Oct 1862
I would be very interested in your connection Mary NEWMAN and James BECKETT, also to the Sarah NEWMAN mentioned in your list.
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Hi,
Many thanks for the marriage date. It confirms that given to me on another forum.
As I mentioned in my original posting these folk are only twigs on my tree, but I like to gather as much information as possible to verify my records.
1) Joseph PITTUCK married Sarah Ann NEWMAN in June Qtr.1864. I have been given the information as 17 May 1864 in Kersey, but having checked the parish register the marriage is not recorded. There may have been a non-conformist chapel in Kersey which I have not investigated.
Joseph PITTUCK was the son of Joseph PITTUCK & Mary ANN PERCY. Mary Ann came from Elmsett as did her uncle Robert PERCY who is my 4 x Great Grandfather. I have made a study of the PERCY family of Elmsett and their descendants and hence would like the date and place of this marriage to add to my file.
2) I have no personal connection to James BECKETT and Mary Ann Eliza NEWMAN who married June Qtr 1874, but two of their children married into Elmsett families and are on my file as I have made a study of Elmsett families over many years.
Frederick Walter BECKETT married Eva Alice REVANS in Hadleigh on 7 April 1912.
Herbert Henry BECKETT married Alice Maud HISKEY in Hadleigh on 25 Aug 1923.
The HISKEY & REVANS families had long time connections in Elmsett.
So many of my ancestors came from Elmsett and there was much inter-marrying of families that I have recorded to try and untangle them all.
Regards,
Kevin
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Hi Kevin,
Many thanks for addition information. Like you I had not found the Sarah NEWMAN marriage in the Kersey register. I will file it for later investigation. I think all the poor Kersey NEWMANs are mine.
Like you all of my lines inter-marry in and across the villages, although I must say not many venture into Elmsett.
I am also interested in the NEWMANs as I run the Newman One-Name Study.
Again many thanks
Robert
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Hello Robert and welcome to Rootschat ;D
Pat ...
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Dear Kevin Scott,
Thank you so much for your impressive list of "twigs" that may turn into "branches" in someone else's family tree. My own tree (Revans/Ribbans)--the two forms alternate for centuries--overlaps considerably with the names you mention. Perhaps what follows may have some interest for you, though you will certainly know most of it. I am not sure, unfortunately, of exactly where all my information comes from.
Let me start with the REVANS.
William Revans, who m. Mary Ann Keeble in 1880, was born in 1854 at Aldham and d. 15 Apr 1912.
His parents were Barnaby Revans, b. 25 Jun 1826, d. 1890 in Cosford. Married Elizabeth Coates, b. 1834, on 8 Oct 1852 at Hadleigh.
William's brother George, b. c 1858 at Aldham: you give his wife's name as Harriet DOUBLE; I have the same dates but her name as Harriet SHELDRAKE, b. 1859 at Hadleigh, d. 1919; m. Dec 1880. They had many children; one of them, Annie, b. 1893, m. Stanley George Vince (one of the names on your list).
Another sibling is Lydia, b. c 1860, who m. Reuben Arthur Chisnall in 1883. I have a note that she had a child Herbert Charles, b. 4 Jun 1881 before her marriage; then follow nine more children.
In today's follow-up letter you mention a new Revans I do not know: Eve Alice Revans, who m. Frederick Walter Beckett on 7 Apr 1912. You refer to Revans/Hickley connections in Elmstett. I shoulde like to know more--I have a note of only one such connection: Charles King Revans, b. 1870 at Aldham, m. Flora Eliza Hickley on 4 May 1889. Charles was son of George Revans, married to Ann Barber; he was the son of the elder Barnaby (m. to Lydia Frost) and brother of the Barnaby m. to Elizabeth Coates.
I don't know any of the GANT family you record, but the family has been thoroughly described in Gant One Name on the internet. The one I know about is Mary Gant, b. 9 Jan 1792 at Little Blackenham, d. 4 Mar 1886 at Whitton (a long-lived lady), m. 22 Nov 1813 at Little Blackenham to James Ribbans, b. 1786 at Barham, d. 2 Dec 1872 at Great Blackenham. These were my gt gt parents, the father of Aaron Ribbans (1829-1903), who fathered some 20 children.
Another VINCE I have come across is John Vince, who m. Sarah Revans on 25 Dec 1787. She was born c 1766 at Aldham, daughter of Robert Ribbans, b. 1734, d. 7 Jan 1803, and Sarah Chittock, b.30 Oct 1733, d. 1772 at Aldham; they were married on 30 Oct 30 1763 at Debenham: they were apparently the grandparents of James Ribbans/Mary Gant.
And I have one BALDREY: Ann Elizabeth Baldrey, who m. David Ribbans, b. 6 Jun 1832, d. 4 Oct 1903 at Edmonton. His parents were Jonathan Matthew Ribbans, b. 8 Dec 1806, and Eve Goodall, m, 11 Dec 1826 at Martlesham. John Odell (an Odell was David's second wife) has a file on his family.
This is quite enough for one go, but you did ask for as much information as possible. I hope some of it is useful. For my part, I should like to learn about any other Revans/Ribbans you may have come across.
Best wishes,
Geoffrey Ribbans (grib)
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Hello Geoffrey,
Thankyou for taking time to reply.
With reference to the marriage of George REVANS in Dec. Qtr 1880, Cosford, vol.4a p.1030, the four people on that page are -
Nathan BATTEL
Harriet DOUBLE
George REVANS
Harriet SHELDRAKE
So the question is - which Harriet did George REVANS marry?
The answer I believe can be found in the 1881 census
1) Nathan & Harriet BATTLE are recorded in Benton Street, Hadleigh. Their ages are given as 63 & 60 respectively. Far too old for our newly married Harriet REVANS. I think this has to be Harriet SHELDRAKE
2) George & Harriet REVANS are living in Angel Square, Hadleigh. Next door is Caroline HUGHES (widow). This I believe is Harriet's mother. See the 1871 census where Caroline Hughes is living with Harriet DOUBLE.
Caroline BAKER married Robert DOUBLE 1 Apr 1841 in Hadleigh.
Caroline DOUBLE (widow) married Mark HUGHES 15 November 1864 in Hadleigh
I hope this makes sense. Of course the marriage certificate of George REVANS & Harriet would confirm this!
The Mary GANT you mention is from the Blakenham GANT family. I know they are Linda GANTs (GANT one-name sudy) family. I have not been able to connect them to my Elmsett GANTS and although I have not heard from Linda in a long time, the last I heard she had not found a connection either.
As regards the other REVANS you mention - they are all in my file.
If you can PM me your email address, I would be happy to share my REVANS research.
Regards,
Kevin
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Hi Kevin,
I checked through my records and I now believe that Sarah Ann NEWMAN and Joseph PITTUCK were married in Hadleigh on 17 May 1864, and that Sarah Ann was the daughter of my 4th cousin Charlotte NEWMAN who went on to marry Joseph BUMPSTEAD in Hadleigh on 12 May 1845.
Robert Newman
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Hi Kevin,
I really should not answer emails late at night!!!
Now that I have checked my database and archive I find I do have a lot on Mary Ann Eliza NEWMAN and James BECKETT. They were married at Hadleigh Congregational Church on 2 May 1874.
Robert Newman
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Hi Robert,
Many thanks for the information. I appreciate your help.
I wonder if the marriage of Joseph Pittuck & Sarah Ann Newman that you mention was also at the Congregational Church? Unless I missed it, I did not record it when I checked the marriage register of St. Mary's parish church.
Certainly several of Joseph Pittuck's siblings were christened at the Congregational Chapel.
Kevin
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Its a pity the Cosford Database is no longer functioning. That was a handy site.
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You will find it at
http://web.archive.org/web/20080611133922/http://www.cosford-database.co.uk/
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I have been trying to let everyone know what is happening with the Cosford Database and the Surnames List by posting updates on the Resources and Links page of the Suffolk Rootschat Message Board.
As Robert has given you the URL for the archived version of the web site you may be able to find what you need.
I am trying to sort things out with Ray's widow, but I have had a lot of family illness to worry about for the last few months.
I am hoping to get both websites fully back on line in the next few weeks
(I have been saving up my pension ;D
Ray's web site was archived, mine was not - however there is a copy of mine being hosted by Terry Aspinall in Aus for the time being - please remember guest books, submissions forms and email links will not work and if there are any queries for either web site they should be addressed to me.
Regards, Pat ...
Suffolk Surnames List can be found at
http://www.terryaspinall.com/suffolk-surname-list/index.html
My grateful thanks to Terry for helping out
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Hi Robert,
I have checked the Hadleigh parish records and can confirm that the marriage of Joseph PITTOCK & Sarah Ann NEWMAN did take place at St. Mary's parish church, Hadleigh on 17 May 1864.
Joseph Pittock - age 20, Bachelor, Labourer of Hadleigh. Father - Joseph Pittock, Labourer.
Sarah Ann Newman - age 19, Spinster of Hadleigh. Father - Joseph Bumpstead, Dealer.
Witnesses - Isaac Pittock, Eliza Ramplin & C. Bumpstead.
Regards,
Kevin
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Thanks Kevin,
Best Wishes
Robert
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Kevin,
I haven't done the 3 posts yet so I can't send a PM. My Great Grandfather was a Revans and his wife was a Hiskey. I thought there was a lot of inter mingling, what can you tell me about the two families?
Walter
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Hello Walter,
Welcome to Rootschat!
Most of my REVANS & HISKEY research comes from the parishes of Elmsett & Aldham. I am not directly descended from either family, but have gathered a lot of information on them in my research into my Elmsett ancestors (see below). If you have a subscription to Ancestry you can find all my Elmsett research on there. Just search for either name.
However, if you do not have access to that website, then I really need you to be more specific in your enquiry.
I do have a REVANS/HISKEY marriage in my database - that of Charles King REVANS & Flora Eliza HISKEY in Elmsett on 4 May 1889. If these are your ancestors then I have the REVANS line back to Robert REVANS & Sarah CHEESE who married in Hadleigh in 1773. I have the HISKEY line back to John HISKEY & Mary BRAGG who married in Elmsett in 1805. Please note that I have not gone back any further as it is solely Elmsett & Aldham parishes that interest me and not these specific family lines.
What is it you are looking for? If it concerns these parishes then I may be able to help.
Best wishes,
Kevin
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Kevin
Charles King was my great Grandfather. During today I've found Thomas Hiskey
b.1817 married to Sarah with son Thomas b.1850. Do John Hiskey and Mary Bragg connect with them? I've got back to 1530 with Revans ans Saxtead, so I'm OK on that.
Walter
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Thomas HISKEY christened in Elmsett on 13 October 1816 was the son of John HISKEY & Mary BRAGG.
He married Sarah MOWER in Elmsett on 10 March 1838.
They had the following children -
Sarah Harriet HISKEY, chr. 11 May 1838, Elmsett
John HISKEY, chr. 31 July 1842, Elmsett.
Mary Ann HISKEY, chr. 20 July 1845, Elmsett.
Thomas HISKEY, chr. 7 Oct 1849, Elmsett.
Kevin
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Kevin
Thanks for the Hiskey info, this all becomes addictive. I've gathered so much in the last 10 days after not touching it for a year. Now I've got peruse and enter.
Thanks Walter
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Hello Kevin once more. I'm glad to keep in touch. What a lot of intermingled families there are: Revans, Hickley, Mowers, Chittock, Leeks, Keeble, Gant, Barber, Vince, etc. etc.!
Walter: very pleased to come across a distant relative. We both trace our ancestry to Robert Revans (1734-1803), but my line stems from from his first wife Sarah Chittock, not from Sarah Cheese, as yours does. You mention you have traced the Revans line back to 1530, roughly the same as my findings. I list mine to see if they coincide (I give only the direct line, passing over the many collateral branches):
1. William, b. c 1500, d. 1552 Kettleburgh; wife Elizabeth, b.1505, m. c 1525, d. 1558; they held tenements at Saxtead Manor
2. Robert, b. 1529, d. 6 Feb 1617 Saxtead (his will is at Ipswich RO); = Bridget Flick 18 Oct 1568 Earl Soham
3. Humphrey, b. 6 Sep 1583 Kettleburgh, d.1649 Saxtead (also will at Ipswich RO); = Joanna Stowers 1 Oct 1610 Saxtead, d.1671
4. Robert, b. 4 Sep 1611 Kettleburgh, d. 6 Apr 1667 Saxtead; = Margaret Thingoe 6 Jun 1636 Worlingworth
5. Robert, b. 19 Dec 1639 Saxtead, d.1697; = Hannah 22 Dec 1671
6. John, b. 15 Jun 1671 Saxtead, d. 12 Apr 1709 Debenham; = Mary Woods 15 Jun 1691. b. Saxtead, d. 1724 Debenham
7. Thomas, b. c 1700; = Susan Killett 4 Oct 1725 Mickfield
8. Robert, b. 1734, d. 7 Jan 1803 Aldham; =(1) Sarah Chittock 30 Oct 1763 Debenham; d. 23 Apr 1772 Aldham
= (2) Sarah Cheese 5 Oct 1773 Hadleigh; b. 5 Oct 1750, d. 16 Jul 1820 Aldham
[my line continues]:
9. Robert, b. 16 Dec 1764 Aldham, d. 16 Sep 1842; = Susan Steggal, 13 Oct 1786 Wetheringsett-cum-Brockford; b. c 1765 Brockford;
10.James, b. 1786 Barham, d. 2 Dec 1872 Bosmere; = Mary Gant 22 Nov 1813 Little Blakenham. b.9 Jan 1792, ditto; d.4 Mar 1886 Whitton.
11 Aaron, b. 3 Nov 1829, d. 15 Jan 1903 ---my g grandfather: I'll stop here.
I hope this stuff is of someinterest to you.
Best wishes,
Geoffrey Ribbans
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Hi Kevin,
You seem to be a great fountain of knowledge when it comes to the families of the cosford district :) I've managed to trace my ancestors back to John Cosins marriage to Susannah Smith in Elmsett 1771 sadly thats as far as I can get back though. Although the marriage reads as though John was living in Elmsett at the time, there is no baptism for him there. The records office had a look at the poor law registers for me but no such luck. There is a sugestion of him being from Whatfield but nothing can be proven. If you ever find him floating about anywhere let me know ;D
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Don't forget 'Ray Long's Cosford-Database' Joanne.
It will soon be properly back on line.
Photographs of Ray to be added this week.
http://web.archive.org/web/20080611133922/http://www.cosford-database.co.uk/
Pat ...
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Thanks Pat, Ray did help me out with my research many years ago bless him
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Hello Joanne,
I'm a long way from being a "Fountain of knowledge" on the Cosford district. That title will ever be held by the late, great Ray Long. But thank you for your kind thoughts anyway ;)
I have researched many of the families of Elmsett & Aldham in the process of tracing my direct ancestors from those parishes (GANT, LEEKS, MEADOWS, DANIELS, PERCY, HOLDER, ARCHER, SMITH). To try and make sense of the inter marriages between families I have also gathered quite a lot of info on other families. My extended tree can be found on A******* under Scott/Miller.
I do have some information on the COUSINS family, but I'm afraid that I do not have the answer to your query. There were of course, quite a lot of Elmsett/Whatfield links and I there were definitely COUSINS family in Whatfield.
I do have a note of Susanna SMITH, daughter of Philip SMITH & Susanna BETTS. She was christened in Elmsett on 14 May 1738. A possibility for your Susanna ??
I have found my Elmsett/Aldham SMITH family almost impossible to trace with certainty back in the 18th century. When Smiths marry Smiths and have children who marry Smiths, it makes you tear your hair out trying to wrk out who is who ???
Best wishes,
Kevin
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Geoffrey
My dates are almost the same as yours, you've got a lot days and months than me. Have you been able to verify them? My major difference is Robert b.1639 you've put his death as 1697, I've got 15 Jul 1709 the same year as his son John. I've got Hannah's death as 1697.
My major sources are Charles Reginald Revans 1947.
A Rodwell from Ipswich 1966 and his daughter 1988.
Molly Green from Suffolk .
Rev Struan Robertson New Zealand.
A bone of contention that I can't resolve is the parentage of William Revans who married Mary Noller in 1722.
Finally look at my post for Duke of Anjou, can you make any suggestions for that Revans
Regards Walter
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Dear Walter,
Many thanks for your useful reply. I suspect you may be right about Robert Revans, b. 1639. I could easily have confused husband and wife in my notes.
My main source has been a Charles Ribbons with whom I corresponded several years ago. He accumulated a vast quantity of information but often didn't give his source. I am intrigued by your comment on the Duke of Anjou, but couldn't find the posting. Nor do I know anything of William = Mary Noller in 1722. I would very much like to know more of Margaret Revans, b. 1611 (daughter of William, b. 1581, and Margaret), who may have married a William Danforth (a famous family indeed).
Lets keep up the correspondence.
Geoffrey
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Geoffrey
I've got Margaret marrying William Danforth and having two daughters, Susan and Margaret, but that's all I've got.
Walter
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Thanks, Walter, for the two daughters of William Darnforth and Margaret Revans. Where did you find this data? I am interested in Darnforth because I have unconfirmed information (from the Charles Ribbons I mentioned before) that Humphrey Revans was a friend and co-church warden of the Nicholas Darnforth who emigrated to Massachusetts and founded the township of Framington.
Best wishes,
Geoffrey
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Hi Geoffrey,
It was the Nicholas Danforth fleet that left Framlingham in Suffolk to set up Framingham in Massachusetts.
Somewhere along the journey the 'L' was lost :D
A good book on the subject is
Nicholas Danforth and his Neighbours
Framlingham and Saxtead in the 17th Century
by
John Booth of London
pub by Framingham Historical and natural History Society
Framingham Massachusetts USA October 1935
Pat ...
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I have checked the listings of the neighbours in the book mentioned above and there are 'Revans' listed as detailed below
At Saxtead
Greene
William Ruvance
William Ruvance iunr:
Streete
Humphery Ruvance
Robert Ruvance
William Ruvance
At Bradley Woode 89 acres
five names including John Ruvance
(all spellings as listed).
Pat ...
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Thank you so much, Pat, for this most useful information: six 17C Revans in a row! And my appreciation of all you do for a whole army of ancestor-seekers throughout Suffolk. You are a mine of knowledge about the whole county, especially on the two areas that interest me most: Framlingham, where my yeoman folks flourished until the Restoration, and then the greater Ipswich area to which they dispersed in a humbler status as butchers, publicans and labourers. It's quite a trajectory from Humphrey who worked with Nicholas Danforth to my gt grandfather Aaron, a jack-of-all trades in 97 Fore Street, who fathered more than 20 children.
Thanks once more,
Geoffrey
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Dear Pat,
I wonder if you have easy access to "Able Men of Suffolk", the list compiled for Charles I in 1638 on the brink of the Civil War. If you have and would be kind enough to check it to see if there are any Revans/Ribbans included I'd be very grateful. Sorry to bother such a busy and willing person, but as I live most of the year in the USA I am a long way from Suffolk RO.
Best, Geoffrey
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Hi
I have just come across this while digging into my Aunt Carol (by marriage to Read) was (Carol nee GANT b. 1942) part of the family as she is with me on a family visit at the moment. Working back - her father was Raymond Peter Gant 1915-1995, his father Peter Gant b. Elmsett 1879 d.1943 his father William Gant Elmsett 1848 (wife Rebecca) and his father Robert Gant (m. Eliza)
I have Williams Gant,s children Rebecca, Mary, Alice, William George, Eliza, George A, Jarvis, and Peter
William George m Ellen Coulson and had Basil Dennis Gant who went eventually to live with my aunt's father. She thought he was her Uncle until I found he was her dad's cousin. Basil had a sister Ada but my Aunt did not know there were any other Gant's of her fathers generation! Is she related to your Gants?
Best regards
Carol ( suffolk/Norfolk - Jude / Read / Grint/ Bee and more..)
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Hello Carol,
Nice to hear from you! Indeed your Aunt and I are related. We are second cousins, one generation removed.
My great grandmother was Eliza Gant, born in Elmsett 21 Jan 1874. She was the daughter of William Gant & Rebecca Anna Leeks and therefore brother of Peter Gant.
William & Rebecca had 13 children in total
Rebecca Anna (1867-1934).
Polly (Mary) (1869-1945).
Alice Sarah (1870-1941).
William George (1872-1960).
Eliza (1874-1961).
George Arthur (1875-1950).
Javis (1877-1959).
Peter (1879-1943).
Edith Mary (1881-1954).
Carrie (1883-1964).
Horace Josiah (1884-1916).
Arthur John (1886-1954).
Sidney Left (1888-1888).
I have details of many of their marriages and families and am happy to share research if you are interested.
Thanks for the information about Basil Dennis Gant as I did not know from which Gant/Coulson marriage he came.
Best wishes,
Kevin
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Kevin, thank you for the reply, I can see where I lost "Jarvis" in my hunt for a death if he is "Javis" and the Polly/ Mary thing. (Aunt) Carole (nee Gant) can recall being taken to see a female Gant relative when she was young so around early 1950's, quote "she must have been elderly as she had very thin hair," (or alopecia) Raymond Peter and his wife Phyllis Rhoda (nee Ambrose) lived at Chelmodiston.
Carole was an only child, she has photos of her dad and Basil Dennis and she thinks she may have one of her grandad. I will ask her to let me borrow them to scan as they may be of interest to "Gant family"
I am carol at cotcomdotcom - if you do have time to send me william's other children's marriages. To bring you up to the end of Peter's line Carole married Barney Read, there are two children Jonathan Read and Christina Read.
Best regards
Carol
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Hi Carol,
I think your aunt may have visited my great grandmother! Eliza Lloyd (nee Gant) died in 1961 in Stow Lodge Hospital, Onehouse, but she spent the last few years of her life at the home of her daughter Jessie in Claydon. Great Granny had alopecia and had lost most of her hair. She wore a wig a lot of the time. One of my earliest memories is visiting her in Claydon where she was bedridden.
I will send you details of the family to your email address.
Regards,
Kevin
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Hi
I am contacting you on behalf of my Mum....Ivy Mary Wright nee Marjoram.....her Mum was Elizabeth Nee Ambrose and they are related to Raymond and Phyllis Gant of Chelmodiston. Mum would love to able to get in touch with their daughter Carol nee Gant if at all possible. I came across your posting regarding the family by chance simply by 'googling' ''Carol Gant Chelmodiston'' ...for her tonight. My email address is .......heatherduffield@hotmail.com
My Mum is now 86 and has been totally blind since she was 21. She has fond memories of visiting her Mothers cousins... Ray who was a shepherd and his wife Phyllis.
Thankyou for your time
Kind Regards
Heather
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Hello Kevin,
I noticed you had the family name "Percy" on one of your earlier posts. My 3xgreat grandfather moved to Australia in about 1857 and his property was named "Hadleigh" in New South Wales. I have been trying to find a link between Australia and England for many years, and the closest I can find is a William Percy born in 1837 (which matches his death date of 1913 - 76 years of age) and there is the tenuous link between the property name and the town in Suffolk. Grateful for any advice on how one might track a person from Cosford to Australia. His father was apparently William, too, and that matches an entry in the 1841 Census there, with the household consisting of two Williams, Ann, Caroline, Maria, and Hannah in St Margaret District 3. That corresponds with the arrival in 1857 of two Williams, a Mary and a Hannah in Adelaide, South Australia. They were assisted passengers travelling on the ship Henry Moore from Plymouth. I know it is a long shot, but would be grateful for any ideas on how to find out more. Regards, Michael.
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Hello Michael,
The family you are looking at in the 1841 census living in Bolton Lane, Ipswich (St. Margaret's parish) have been wrongly transcribed by Ancestry as Percy when it should be PIZEY. If you look closely you can see the dot above the "i". The children listed in the census correspond to the following baptisms in Ipswich.
Caroline Pizzey bapt 13 Jun 1830 at Ipswich St. Mary le Tower Church to William & Ann Maria Pizzey of St. Margaret's parish.
Ann Maria Pizey, bapt 11 Mar 1832 at Ipswich St. Mary le Tower Church to William & Ann Maria Pizey of St. Margaret's parish.
Anna Pizey, bapt 15 Jan 1837 at Ipswich St. Margaret's to William & Ann Maria Pizey of Bolton Lane.
William Pizey, bapt 15 Jan 1837 at Ipswich St. Margaret's to William & Ann Maria Pizey of Bolton Lane.
My Percy ancestors come from the parish of Elmsett near Hadleigh in the Cosford Registration District of Suffolk. My direct ancestor is Robert Percy, (bapt 2 Mar 1788) son of William & Rachel Percy. They did have a son William Percy who was baptised and buried in 1772. I have not found another William born to this couple, nor do I have any information regarding a William Percy possibly born in Hadleigh c.1837. I have the Suffolk baptism index for the Cosford area and there is nothing recorded for a William Percy at this date.
I regret that I am not very familar with Australian records but wonder whether any (census, marriage, death) might mention your Wiliiam's place of birth in England?
There is another Hadleigh in Essex you might want to consider. Sorry I cannot be of more help.
Regards, Kevin
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Thank you so much for responding so quickly. His death certificate states that he was born in London and his father was William Percy and his mother Harriet Wills, but this has yielded nothing after years of searching, hence my looking elsewhere. Thank you again - you have saved me hours! Regards, Michael.