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Title: Leonard john Winwood - Bridgnorth area ?
Post by: alveleyhistorian on Tuesday 02 February 10 18:30 GMT (UK)
hi there,
My great grandmother, Violet Davies had an illegitemate daughter in 1910.
Quatt baptism entry  lists the father as  Leonard John Winwood, labourer.
Ring any bells with anyone,  Violet was a domestic servant in Bridgnorth, family tales say that Leonard came from either Coton or Bridgnorth

any help much appreciated






any help much appreciated
Title: Re: Leonard john Winwood - Bridgnorth area ?
Post by: Mort29 on Tuesday 02 February 10 18:36 GMT (UK)
probably this lad

1901 census of Bridgnorth - RG13; Piece: 2518; Folio: 109; Page: 8 Parish of St Mary; 9, Hospital Street


 
Susannah Winwood 52 Head of Household (Widow) born Salop, Middleton Scriven
Susan O Winwood 15 daughter born Bridgnorth: Carpet Stamper
Lucy Winwood 11 dau ditto
Leonard J Winwood 8 son ditto


From the 1891 census RG12; Piece: 2094; Folio 112; Page 12 Bridgnorth, his Father was William a Coachman from Bewdley in Worcs.

There are a lot of older children and a maiden Sister in Law named Bowen.
 
Title: Re: Leonard john Winwood - Bridgnorth area ?
Post by: Mr Gwynne Chadwick on Tuesday 02 February 10 18:55 GMT (UK)
Hi Margaret,

If you refer to page 93 of my new book that you purchased, you will see;

"28 Dec 1918. Killed in action. Private Leonard J Winwood, husband of Mrs L J Winwood of Farmcote. Youngest son of the Late William Winwood and Mrs Susan Winwood of St James Lodge, Bridgnorth."

Could he be your man?

Source; Bridgnorth – News and Events between 1901 and 1920.

Gwynne
http://www.rafbridgnorth.org.uk

Title: Re: Leonard john Winwood - Bridgnorth area ?
Post by: alveleyhistorian on Tuesday 02 February 10 22:47 GMT (UK)
dear gwynne,
that's marvellous, have now
confirmed with a family member and it seems to jog a few memories- "granny always said he was killed in the war"

Is he on the Bridgnorth memorial  i wonder ?

many thanks !
Title: Re: Leonard john Winwood - Bridgnorth area ?
Post by: Mr Gwynne Chadwick on Tuesday 02 February 10 23:57 GMT (UK)
Hi Margaret,

Yes.
L J Winwood is listed on the bottom line of the plaque on the Western side of the war memorial in Bridgnorth town park.

His father was buried in Bridgnorth cemetery, age 48, on 13 July 1896 and his mother Susan was buried, age 75, on 14 March 1923.

Regards,
Gwynne

Title: Re: Leonard john Winwood - Bridgnorth area ?
Post by: alveleyhistorian on Wednesday 03 February 10 00:12 GMT (UK)
dear gwynne,
that's most comforting thank you. very much appreciated
when i began doing the family tree in 1979,  i remember great-gran being a bit snappy ! Too many memories she'd rather forget -

many thanks gwynne, it's really helped sort a few puzzles out
Title: Re: Leonard john Winwood - Bridgnorth area ?
Post by: Mort29 on Wednesday 03 February 10 11:22 GMT (UK)
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probably this lad

1901 census of Bridgnorth - RG13; Piece: 2518; Folio: 109; Page: 8 Parish of St Mary; 9, Hospital Street



Susannah Winwood 52 Head of Household (Widow) born Salop, Middleton Scriven
Susan O Winwood 15 daughter born Bridgnorth: Carpet Stamper
Lucy Winwood 11 dau ditto
Leonard J Winwood 8 son ditto


From the 1891 census RG12; Piece: 2094; Folio 112; Page 12 Bridgnorth, his Father was William a Coachman from Bewdley in Worcs.

There are a lot of older children and a maiden Sister in Law named Bowen.

oh well, maybe I am too focussed on the Census.  :(

Strange tho' that there is no CWGC entry for that man.
Title: Re: Leonard john Winwood - Bridgnorth area ?
Post by: alveleyhistorian on Sunday 07 February 10 23:01 GMT (UK)
Quote
probably this lad

1901 census of Bridgnorth - RG13; Piece: 2518; Folio: 109; Page: 8 Parish of St Mary; 9, Hospital Street



Susannah Winwood 52 Head of Household (Widow) born Salop, Middleton Scriven
Susan O Winwood 15 daughter born Bridgnorth: Carpet Stamper
Lucy Winwood 11 dau ditto
Leonard J Winwood 8 son ditto


From the 1891 census RG12; Piece: 2094; Folio 112; Page 12 Bridgnorth, his Father was William a Coachman from Bewdley in Worcs.

There are a lot of older children and a maiden Sister in Law named Bowen.

oh well, maybe I am too focussed on the Census.  :(

Strange tho' that there is no CWGC entry for that man.

Good news... CWGC entry found !
Leonard died  26th November 1918 - buried at  Terlincthun Cemetery, near Boulogne.
He is also listed on the Claverley war memorial
Title: Re: Leonard john Winwood - Bridgnorth area ?
Post by: alveleyhistorian on Monday 08 February 10 02:18 GMT (UK)
Such a sad story...
it seems that Worcestershire Regiment were involved in a tragic train accident on November 26th 1918 - five men killed, one being Private Leonard Winwood !
God Bless him !
Title: Re: Leonard john Winwood - Bridgnorth area ?
Post by: Mort29 on Monday 08 February 10 11:13 GMT (UK)
so where did the December date come from?

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If you refer to page 93 of my new book that you purchased, you will see;

"28 Dec 1918. Killed in action. Private Leonard J Winwood, husband of Mrs L J Winwood of Farmcote. Youngest son of the Late William Winwood and Mrs Susan Winwood of St James Lodge, Bridgnorth."
Title: Re: Leonard john Winwood - Bridgnorth area ?
Post by: trish1120 on Monday 08 February 10 12:39 GMT (UK)
Christenings;
SUSAN OLIVE Winwood, 15 July 1886, St Magdalenes, Bridgenorth, Shropshire
GERTRUDE AGNES Winwood, 14 June 1883 ( the same)
Parents, WILLIAM and SUSAN

1881 Census is on Familysearch;
9 Hospital St, Bridgenorth, Shropshire

William WINWOOD, 33, Servant Groom Domestic, born Rock, Worcester
Susan, 33, born Middleton Scriven, Shropshire
William R, 7, born Oldbury, Shropshire
Miriam, 5
Edith, 4
Jessie, 2
Frank, 1
Henry A, 1
All other children born Bridgenorth, Shropshire

Marriage from FreeBMD
William WINWOOD
Susan BOWEN
June 1873
Bridgenorth
6a 1239

( works with 1891 Census Mort29 found)

Trish :)
Title: Re: Leonard john Winwood - Bridgnorth area ?
Post by: alveleyhistorian on Tuesday 09 February 10 11:23 GMT (UK)
so where did the December date come from?

Quote
If you refer to page 93 of my new book that you purchased, you will see;

"28 Dec 1918. Killed in action. Private Leonard J Winwood, husband of Mrs L J Winwood of Farmcote. Youngest son of the Late William Winwood and Mrs Susan Winwood of St James Lodge, Bridgnorth."

Date of the newspaper !
I am now wondering whether a further article was possibly written concerning the train accident ?
Title: Re: Leonard john Winwood - Bridgnorth area ?
Post by: Mort29 on Tuesday 09 February 10 11:26 GMT (UK)
One could be forgiven for not linking that sentence to a newspaper article   :P

it reads as if it was the date he was killed in action, extracted from a Page 93 of the book.

Anyway, I provided the census information, so hopefully that complemented what you have.
Title: Re: Leonard john Winwood - Bridgnorth area ?
Post by: jayne55 on Tuesday 09 February 10 16:18 GMT (UK)
Hello, I don't know if this is relevant but my paternal grandmother was Ada Taylor from Farmcote near claverley and her first husband was Leonard J Winwood. They married in Kidderminster in 1911 and had 3 children before he died in a train crash between 1914 and 1918. Any further information on any of this would be very much appreciated. My grandmother (Ada Taylor) returned to Bridgnorth and went on to marry Benjamin Fearnall, my Grandfather.
Title: Re: Leonard john Winwood - Bridgnorth area ?
Post by: alveleyhistorian on Wednesday 10 February 10 00:35 GMT (UK)
Hello, I don't know if this is relevant but my paternal grandmother was Ada Taylor from Farmcote near claverley and her first husband was Leonard J Winwood. They married in Kidderminster in 1911 and had 3 children before he died in a train crash between 1914 and 1918. Any further information on any of this would be very much appreciated. My grandmother (Ada Taylor) returned to Bridgnorth and went on to marry Benjamin Fearnall, my Grandfather.

Hi there,
will send you a private message ! - this is exciting news ! I see you are new to rootschat, if have any problems with finding the pm I have sent - just let me know.
My cousin will be so excited when i tell her you have written !
Title: Re: Leonard john Winwood - Bridgnorth area ?
Post by: trish1120 on Wednesday 10 February 10 11:20 GMT (UK)
Hi Jane,
You have to make 2 more postings before the PM system will operate. Just saying "hello" in 2 separate posts will work.

Cheers,
Trish :)
Title: Re: Leonard john Winwood - Bridgnorth area ?
Post by: Slippergoose on Sunday 21 March 10 15:35 GMT (UK)
Hi, Your Grandmother Ada Taylor was my Gt Gt Grandmother's 2nd daughter; Ada had two sister's, an older sister Fanny and a younger sister Edith. There were a lot of brothers, Harry, George, Thomas, John and Robert. There was a grandchild living with Ada's mother in Claverley, Helen Mary Taylor, she was born around 1910, would you know anything about her?
The three Fearnall children who were split up, would their names be George Edgar, Gerald & Mary?  :)
Title: Re: Leonard john Winwood - Bridgnorth area ?
Post by: jayne55 on Monday 22 March 10 19:47 GMT (UK)
Hi,
I was very excited to receive your message. My father was George Edgar he was one of four children born to Ada Taylor and Benjamin Fearnall. His brothers and sisters were Edith Mary, Elsie May and Gerald John, they also had half brothers and sisters because Ada was married twice. Ada died quite early 1n 1933. I had found out that Ada had lots of brothers and sisters; Fanny, I believe married James Jelfs in 1898 and had children, Edith so my aunt told me, went to live in Canada along with Thomas Taylor. Thomas, so I was told had a daughter Mollie who was brought up by Ellen Taylor (her Grandma). At first I thought this was Helen Mary however she was born in Bolton and I am unsure who her parents were? (I was going to send off for her birth certificate to find out).  I have looked at a few passenger lists that left England for Canada but have been unsuccessful. I have traced Ada's brothers Thomas and John up to the first World War but that's as far as I have got. Can I ask, are you related to Fanny or Edith or one of Ada's brothers? have you got any further information? I would be very grateful if you could let me know :)
best wishes
Title: Re: Leonard john Winwood - Bridgnorth area ?
Post by: Slippergoose on Tuesday 23 March 10 20:31 GMT (UK)
Hi Jayne, my Grandmother was known as Molly, her name was Helen Mary Taylor.
  Warmest regards Suzie
Title: Re: Leonard john Winwood - Bridgnorth area ?
Post by: winwoodb on Monday 16 September 13 08:12 BST (UK)
My Name is Brian Winwood and I have been researching the Winwood family tree for a few years now.
Leonard J Winwood was brother to my fathers grandfather. I have a the original newspaper clipping from the train crash.
My email is (*) and would be willing to share all the info I have.

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Title: Re: Leonard john Winwood - Bridgnorth area ?
Post by: alveleyhistorian on Monday 16 September 13 22:24 BST (UK)
My Name is Brian Winwood and I have been researching the Winwood family tree for a few years now.
Leonard J Winwood was brother to my fathers grandfather. I have a the original newspaper clipping from the train crash.
My email is (*) and would be willing to share all the info I have.

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Hello Brian...nice to hear from you, I will private message you..
Title: Re: Leonard john Winwood - Bridgnorth area ?
Post by: Tewy on Wednesday 27 November 13 14:17 GMT (UK)
Hi,
My Grandmother Ada Taylor was married to Leonard Winwood. They married in Kidderminster in 1911 and had 3 children together. Following Leonard's death in 1918, Ada married my Grandfather Benjamin in 1922. It would be lovely to hear from you, if you want any further information please ask.
Title: Re: Leonard john Winwood - Bridgnorth area ?
Post by: sarah on Thursday 28 November 13 18:17 GMT (UK)
Welcome to RootsChat Brian,  :)

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All the Best

Sarah :)

Title: Re: Leonard john Winwood - Bridgnorth area ?
Post by: Mr Gwynne Chadwick on Monday 02 December 13 20:35 GMT (UK)
Hi all,

Leonard John WINWOOD apparently is listed on Claverley War Memorial.
Today I was talking to a member of Claverley Memories Local History Society. They are gathering information about all the people mentioned on the War Memorial.
They would appreciate a photograph of Leonard WINWOOD if available please?
Please private message me if you can assist.

Gwynne
Title: Re: Leonard john Winwood - Bridgnorth area ?
Post by: Tewy on Monday 02 December 13 20:58 GMT (UK)
Hi Gwynne,
I have also been asked about a photograph of Leonard Winwood by Claverley Memories but sadly I don't have one  :( , but would love to see one too.
Kind Regards,
Jayne.