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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Wigtownshire => Topic started by: ankerdine on Tuesday 02 February 10 22:25 GMT (UK)
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Could someone locate the following family for me please?
John Mann husband
(H)Ellen Mann (nee McMath) wife married 9 October 1860
son James Mann born 28 February 1865
I should like to find them on the 1880 census living in Stranraer. Did James have any siblings?
Thanks.
Judy
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As a starter - a parent search on the IGI will give you details of James siblings - follow the instructions below:
PARENT SEARCH ON IGI
www.familysearch.org - On home page - click on “Advanced Search” to the right of the SEARCH button
Select “International Genealogical Index” from the left hand menu
Input fathers name and surname and mothers name and maiden name
REGION – select British Isles from the menu
COUNTRY – select Scotland
COUNTY (will appear when you select COUNTRY) – select Wigtown
Click SEARCH
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1871 for 7 Agnew Crescent Stranraer
Ellen Mann 33 b Leswalt, Wigtown seaman's wife
Bessie 9
James 6
Mary 4
John 1
Stranraer ED 7 Page 20 Line 3
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1881 - same address as 1871 - children all b Stranraer
Ellen Mann 43 china merchant
Bessie 18
James 16
Mary 14
John 11
Grace 9
William 7
Stranraer ED 8 Page 2 Line 6
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Thank you very much, Carole. I have used Family Search before but never realised about "parent searches".
I now need to find Agnew Crescent on an old map. Also can someone tell me where I can find the Kirk Sessions for Stranraer please. It's a long shot but my grandmother was born in 1883 in Stranraer, Ellen (or Helen) Mann Williamson illegitimate. I suspect her mother thought the father would marry her eventually, but he didn't!
Do you know where the family were in 1891 by any chance too?
This is only one of my family's mysteries.
Thanks again.
Judy
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1891 - same address but son James is now head - all shown as b Stranraer - including Ellen
James Mann 25
Ellen 54 mother - sailors widow
Bessie 27 sister
Grace 18 sister
William 16 brother
Stranraer ED 8 Page 6 Line 8
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Many thanks again, Carole.
Does James have an occupation anywhere on either census record please?
Judy
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Grocers assistant on both
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Thanks.
Judy
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I now need to find Agnew Crescent on an old map. Also can someone tell me where I can find the Kirk Sessions for Stranraer please. It's a long shot but my grandmother was born in 1883 in Stranraer, Ellen (or Helen) Mann Williamson illegitimate. I suspect her mother thought the father would marry her eventually, but he didn't!
Hi Judy,
Agnew Crescent is still there in Stranraer and runs along the shore. Not familiar with the area myself, just did a search on Google Maps. ;D If you do a search for 7 Agnew Crescent [as per the 1871 census entry], you'll find it is now the Harbour Lights Guest House - http://www.harbourlightsguesthouse.co.uk/. Of course this is assuming the numbering of the street hasn't changed over the years, which it may have.
I also had a search on the National Archives of Scotland's online catalogue - unfortunately it only looks as if Stranraer's Kirk Session records go up to 1872. It's a tad annoying. :-\ I do wonder if there will be records of some sort ... I have been able to find individual records on the catalogue. If you give us the mother's name (and father's if you have it), it might be able to be found.
hume :)
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Hume
Thanks for taking the trouble to read this thread and add to it's content.
I clicked on your link for the Harbour Lights Guest House. It looks rather pleasant. Maybe a place for my OH and I to stay when we take our trip to Northern Ireland to continue the search.
My heart missed a beat when I looked on their map. My gt grandmother Jane Williamson lived at Back Ramparts which is the next little street along! She could have helped out at the Mann's house, being a domestic servant, or met James in the Grocer's Shop. This is all in the mind at present but who knows?
I attach a photo of Back Ramparts. All the old "fishermen's hovels" (as my mother called them) have gone now.
Food for thought, eh?
Thanks again.
Judy
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Hi Judy. I just joined this forum when I saw your post. I am trying to put my family tree together. My mother's great grandfather was a John Mann who lived in Stranraer - Academy street and who was married with several boys. Its a long shot that we might have the same Mann lol.