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I am currently researching the French surname Lepine and its variants found within Great Britain, the Channel Islands and Ireland, in what is in effect a one name study.
Initially I was looking into one line only but expanded this so I could unravel the various branches from one another.
One Huguenot Lepine family originated in Normandy and came to Canterbury, Kent, in the late 1500s.
Another branch were from Picardie, Oise, and started to come to London in 1679.
A further Lepine family in the 1600s in England were from Niort in France.
There are no doubt more branches.
If anyone has any information on any branch of a family with the name Lepine who resided in Britain before 1900 then please contact me.
Variants of this name (including those examples incorrectly transcribed) are:
de l’Epine, de L’Epine, De l’Epine, de l’Espine, de L’Espine, De l’Espine, de Lepin, de Lépine, de Lespine, dePine, Delepeine, Delepine, Delepinne, Delespine, Delespinne, Delispine, Depine, Deslespaine, Dupine, L’Epine, L’Epine, L’Espine, Lapine, Le Pine, Le Pone, Leepine, Lefine, Lepeane, Lepene, Lepina, Lepine, Lépine, Leping, Lepinne, Lepire, Lepoin, Lepoine, Lepone, Leponne, Lepore, Lespaine, Lespine, Lespinne, Lipine, Lopina, Lupine, Sepine and Seppine.
Some members apparently dropped the first part to become Pine, while others apparently altered it to the English translation of Thorn.
Many thanks,
Jon Wicken
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Hi Jon,
There is a Lepine in my husband's family. His great-grandfather was Frank Courtenay Lepine bapt 28 Sept 1890, St Peter's Maidstone Kent (LDS). He had a brother Robert Dawson Lepine who died in the Great War. Frank came to South Africa about 1916 to experiment with explosives in the African Explosives factory (also known as Kynochs) in Umbogintwini as he was an analytical chemist. On 6th June 1917 he married Amy Beatrice Rankin in the Isipingo Anglican Church. They had three daughters : Mary Elizabeth, Pauline Margaret and Antoinette. The marriage broke up in the early 1920's. Frank moved to the Cape where he worked as a laboratory chemist at KWV (Ko-operatieve Wijnbouwers Vereniging van Zuid-Afrika Beperkt.) at Paarl. He died on 16th February 1933 of a heart condition. He is buried at the Woltemade Cemetery in Maitland.
That's about all the information we have as his daughters had no contact with him as he was an alcoholic and left his family in a dire financial position.
As I am in South Africa I have to do most of my research online. From the 1891 census, I believe his father was John Dawson Lepine and his mother Fannie.
Any further information about this family would be most appreciated.
Regards
Carolynne Butler
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Hi Carolynne,
I don't have the John Dawson Lepine in my Lepine research yet but I have had a little look and it would seem to me using the branches I have researched that your Lepine line is that outlined below. As with all research please check the information I give you yourself.
However I do know that the Maidstone Lepines were descended from the Canterbury line. This is a different branch to mine but in the process of unravelling everything I have researched them too.
So it would seem your line goes as follows:
Jehan de Lespine born before c1554 in La Gorgue, France
Their son Jaques de Lespine born before c1673 in La Gorgue, France, died Cantebury 1601 married Catherine Delbeq
Their son Jan/Jean de Lespine born Canterbury 1594 died 1655 married as his first wife Jaqueline Bariselle in 1630.
Their son Jean Delepine/Lepine born Canterbury 1632 died 1710 married Marie Bonte in 1668
Their son Daniel Lepine born Canterbury, Kent 1687 died 1754 married as his second wife Elizabeth Broadstreet in 1727
Their son Jean/John Lepine born Canterbury 1732 died after 1797 married Mary Brett in 1761
Their son Stephen Lepine born Maidstone 1767 died 1808 married as his first wife Ann Beeching in 1790
Their son Stephen Lepine born Maidstone 1792 died 1861 married as his second wife Mary Allen in 1827
Their son James Lepine born Boxley, Kent in 1827 married Elizabeth Morris in 1849
Their son was James Dawson Lepine born 1860 died 1920
I haven't just plucked all this out of the IGI on its own but have used many available sources such as the French Church of Canterbury records, probate records and so on.
So if you have any queries on how I have made any conclusions please let me know and if you find any differences please do post here so that future researchers can investigate all the information.
Kind regards,
Jon
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Thanks so much Jon. This gives me something to work on.
Regards
Carolynne
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The only link in this chain which is more assumed than the others is the fact that it was Jean/Jean born in 1732 who married Mary Brett.
However the will of his brother Stephen Lepine from 1797 states his brother John had children so this must be correct.
This Stephen\Esthienne Lepine (1735-1797) in fact himself married in Maidstone. Also the John who married Mary Brett had a son named Stephen so this all seems to tie in.
I am therefore pretty confident that this line of descent is all correct, but as I said do research and check it for yourself so you are happy about it.
Kind regards,
Jon
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Hi Jon
I am researching the Lepine family as well. I am new to this site I just found your post on google.
The Lepine's I am researching appear to be the line you discuss below.
I am related to them through a
Hannah Welby 1817-1871
mother was Hannah Lepine 1789-1876
her father Daniel Lepine 1767-
his father Charles Lepine 1721-
and his the Daniel Lepine 1687-
that you discuss below.
I believe these are the Canterbury Lepine's from Normandy, you may know if this is correct? If you have any information or know any places I may be able to find more information I would be very grateful. The above I have worked out myself so I hope it is right so far.
Many Thanks
Nicole
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Hi Nicole,
It's good to know my posts are useful to people.
The Lepines and Huguenots in general are are a really interesting branch to have in your ancestry. I have spent much time studying all the Lepine branches and while my research continues, your line is in fact a bit different to that outlined in your post.
Your line of descent is in fact as follows:
Jehan de Lespine born before c1554 in La Gorgue, France
His son Jaques de Lespine born before c1573 in La Gorgue, France, died Cantebury 1601 married Catherine Delbeq
Their son Jan/Jean de Lespine born Canterbury 1594 died 1655 married as his first wife Jaqueline Bariselle in 1630.
Their son Jean Delepine/Lepine born Canterbury 1632 died 1710 married Marie Bonte in 1668
Their son Daniel Lepine born Canterbury, Kent 1687 died 1754 married as his first wife Marie Vendome at Canterbury in 1711
Their son Daniel Lepine born Canterbury 1711 died there 1781 married Catherine Lucas at Canterbury in 1734
Their son Charles Lepine born Canterbury 1743 died there 1818 married as his first wife Hannah Barwick in Canterbury in 1765
Their son Daniel Lepine born Canterbury 1767 died 1826 married Nancy Elizabeth Balantine Smillie in 1788 at Lambeth, Surrey.
Their daughter Hannah Lepine born Canterbury 1789 died 1876 married William Welby in 1811
Their daughter was the Hannah Welby/Guy you begin you post with.
The Lepine in Chancery article states that Daniel 1767 was the son of Charles 1721 but this is not correct. This is confirmed by the daughter of Charles being named in the 1797 will of Stephen Lepine.
This is also confirmed on the 'Lepine Great Chart' of the 1850s now in the Society of Genealogists in London. There are some errors on this large family tree, but I have checked everything out myself now.
Familysearch.org and the registers of the French church at Canterbury and so on will be able to help you to piece together your tree further.
Do feel free to post here for any further help on the family though. I intend to eventually deposit all my own research at the French Library and Society of Genealogists at some point, but I think it will be a way off yet!
Kind regards,
Jon
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Hi Jon
Thank you so much for that. Something wasn't quite adding up with the research I was doing but I was struggling to get to the bottom of it. I haven't been researching for that long so your help is greatly appreciated.
Do you know anything about the family, stories, how they might have lived etc? I assume this information is extremely difficult to find.
Nicole
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Also as you say, I have Hannah Welby, having a daughter Sara Guy who is my great great grandmother. My family remember her very fondly. She had a son Arthur Worsnip 1892 and his son John was my grandfather.
Thanks again
Nicole
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Actually with the Lepines there is quite a lot of information on them. It's all helped out by the court case of 'Mad' Maria Lepine who died in testate and as a lunatic in 1798.
An advert in the Times newspaper made all the Lepine familiies in the UK and they all tried to prove descent from the same family. So lots of families did alot of research and spent a fortune going through parish registers and so on.
This is why the Lepine chart was made in the 1850s all as part of the aim to claim the money. Nobody did of course and as I have found, all the Canterbury Lepines who tried were barking up totally the wrong tree. No one ever claimed the money but there was a big court case in 1927 which made the national newspapers at home and abroad.
Several of the Canterbury Lepines were recipients of the Jane Basse and Ester Coqueau Charities administered by the French Church and some became inmates of the French Protestant Hospital. All this is documented so once you build your tree take a trip to the Huguenot Library in London. They have a great deal there.
But bear in mind many people researching didn't have access to all the records we have now so were often barking up the wrong tree. Always feel free to check with me though.
I am afraid in as far as how the Canterbury Lepines lived I have not done any research on this. I am not of this line so have kept to just the genealogical details so maybe contact a historical society in Canterbury along with a visit to the library.
Last year I purchased through an auction some papers which relate to the Canterbury Lepines dating from the late 1700s to a newspaper article of the 1927 court case. There aren't alot of papers but they are most fascinating and include a short statement written by Catherine Lucas, wife of Daniel Lepine (1711-1781).
There are Lepine papers stored away by lots of branches in fact and I just wonder what else might be out there undiscovered. The whole court case was a huge benefit to us as everyone kept all the papers and gathered up more.
The papers in the Society of Genealogists are one example and what is fascinating to me is that the papers that instigated the 'Lepine in Chancery' article are the other side of this correspondence. Sadly the man who had them has now died and I have no idea where they went to. I great shame as I would love to have read the other side of these letters.
Kind regards,
Jon
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Great thanks thats loads to keep me going. I have the 'lepine in chancery' document and I have just received some discs from the Huguenot society although I haven't had chance to look at them yet. I will follow up the information you suggest and hopefully find out lots more. It is a very interesting side to the family tree.
Thanks for taking the time to help out.
Nicole.
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The Lepine in Chancery article is interesting but unfortunately the Canterbury Lepines were not related to Maria at all, even though they thought they were.
They thought they must be due to the surname without realising there were different branches. As the Lepine in Chancery article says, a great deal of money was spent by all sides to try and get hold of her estate.
The court case was not brought by any Lepines though, this was bought by a family in Yorkshire claiming they were descended though the sister of Maria's mother Mary Jency Eccles.
They seem to have bankrupted themselves and as my research has shown they were totally incorrect in their case. Why a solicitor/barrister ever thought they would get anywhere is beyond me, but it seems the leader of all this Miss Amy Knight Mason just refused to give up.
We have alot to owe her for, even if she was totally incorrect, as it kept many Lepine lines aware of the family and researching and keeping old papers. The research she did came to be in the court papers deposited at The National Archives at Kew.
The one very sad thing is that one exhibit with her petition was a copy of a letter in the family sent to a relative (her grandmother I think offhand) which is why they 'knew' they were related to Maria.
Unfortunately this exhibit is missing in the files at Kew so I assume someone before me took it. What is said I have no idea and I have not been able to find out what became of Miss Mason's own papers. I hope one day they may turn up somewhere.
I would suggest googling "Daniel Lepine" and any other names of the Lepines in italics that interest you as you will probably find alot about them ranging from internet posts of other researchers to all other sorts of historical documents.
You may already have seen this page:
http://www.machadoink.com/All%20Saints%20Graveyard.htm
This lists grave stones at All Saints Canterbury and one of them is for your Daniel Lepine (1767-1826) and his wife Hannah. According to this web page the broken stone reads:
In Memory of Daniel Lepine
died February 24th 1826 aged 38 years
Also Nancy widow of the above died May 30th
Aged 18[45] 7[6] Years
Left surviving Hannah wife
and William Welby
This is also a good post listing Lepine BMDS in the same parish:
http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/HUGUENOTS-WALLOONS-EUROPE/2000-10/0970512831
Good luck with your research and feel free to come back to me with anything.
Jon
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Hi Jon,
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I am researching my Lepine family connection and have come to a stop - the info that i have is as follows:-
My Grandmother Rosina Lepine born 1904
her parents Charles Lepine born c1873 & Harriet Tyler born c1873
All of the above were born in Islington, London
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Charles's father was Jules Lepine born in Gisors France c1817 and he was married to Marie Alexandrine Evrevin born in Rouen France c1842 -
I have managed to track down his Birth Registration from a French web site dated 14 March 1817, in this document his father is shown as Ambroise Lepine and his Mother as Rosalie Julie Soit-de vire.
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If you have any info on this line of Lepine's i would be very interested to hear about it.
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Regards
Tony
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Hi Tony,
I have seen these Lepines but as they came to the UK in the 1800s, I have not really looked at them much yet.
Sorry i can't be any more help, but I assume you have seen that many of the French departments have put their parish registers online for free, so have you checked out the department for Rouen as you might be able to find her c1842 baptism.
Kind regards,
Jon
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Also as you say, I have Hannah Welby, having a daughter Sara Guy who is my great great grandmother. My family remember her very fondly. She had a son Arthur Worsnip 1892 and his son John was my grandfather.
Forgive me Nicole, but I think I have been chasing you around Mundia! I am descended from Hannah Welby's brother Robert who had 5 daughters- Fanny, Kate, Edith, Helena and Laura. Edith is my g grandmother. We had a mourning ring for Daniel Lepine that my mother gifted to the Museum at Canterbury a few years ago- mostly to avoid squabbles over who should inherit it!
There are some photographs of them on my tree on Mundia.
Best wishes, Hilary
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Hi Jon
My many times great grandmother was Elisabeth Lepine who married George Nutting on 11 Jan 1751 in Chislet, which is not far from Canterbury. It was George who was from Chislet and there is no indication from where Elisabeth came from, other than there do not appear to have been any Lepines in Chislet before this time.
Best wishes
Helen
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Hi Helen,
I have just seen you r reply to my post and was just about to look it up in my online tree when ancestry was down!
I will try and check back here when ancestry is up and running again.
All for now,
Jon
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Thanks Jon.
Best wishes
Helen
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Hi Helen,
I never got back to you before so sorry about that!
This is your line of descent:
Jehan de Lespine born before c1554 in La Gorgue, France
Their son Jaques de Lespine born before c1673 in La Gorgue, France, died Cantebury 1601 married Catherine Delbeq
Their son Jan/Jean de Lespine born Canterbury 1594 died 1655 married as his first wife Jaqueline Bariselle in 1630.
Their son Jean Delepine/Lepine born Canterbury 1632 died 1710 married Marie Bonte in 1668
Their son Daniel Lepine born Canterbury, Kent 1687 died 1754 married as his second wife Elizabeth Broadstreet in 1727
Their daughter Elizabeth Lepine born Canterbury 1727 in Canterbury and married George Nutting in 1752
He position is known in the family due to the will of her brother Stephen Lepine from 1797 where she is named as 'Elizabeth Nutton'.
The earlier family line can clearly be construction from the French Church registers of Canterbury.
I have the following children for the couple:
Edward Nutting
1755 –
Henry Nutting
1755 –
?George Nutting
1757 –
?William Nutting
1759 –
?Elizabeth Nutting
1762 –
?Samuel Nutting
1764 –
Hester Nutting
1769 –
Mary Nutting
1771 –
Rachel Nutting
1774 –
I have question marks for some children as their mother's name is recorded as Mary, but I assume this is an error or she was also known by another name.
She was alive at the time of her brother Stephen's will in 1797, so her burial must be one of the two Elizabeth Nuttings in Chislet. One on 30 Sep 1798 and the other being 24 June 1802.
If you have any more information on the Nuttings I would very much like to hear from you.
Kind regards,
Jon
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Hi Jon
Thank you. That is really interesting and has answered a question within our family history. My great grandfather (Frederick Male, b.1860, also from Chislet) told his son that the family had descended from Huguenots. Elizabeth Lepine is the 2 x great grandmother of his wife (Emily Nutting, b.1864, also from Chislet), so I presume this is the link that he referred to.
Do you have a copy of Elizabeth’s brother Stephen’s will? It would be very interesting to read.
Re. George Nutting and Elizabeth’s children. I had only linked Edward and Henry (both 1755) to them. I had cautiously assumed that Elizabeth had died and George had remarried (Mary), but the date of Elizabeth’s brother’s will puts another slant on this. So it is probably as you suggest, the name ‘Mary’ was an error.
I have researched the Nutting family, but it is a little vague before George. It is likely that his father was a Henry Nutting, who was baptised in 1696 in Hoath, and buried in Chislet, in 1755. His grandfather was probably Henry Nutting, who married Mary Field in Chislet, in 1683. Is there anything else about the Nutting family that you would like to know?
Many thanks again.
Kind regards.
Helen
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Hi, iv seen what you have wrote about the lepine history and wondering if you have any thing on the branch of lepine Williams as I have that surname.
Harry
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Hi Harry,
Can you please tell me a bit more about your Lepine line and I will see what I have.
Thanks,
Jon
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Well the oldest known relative I have is judge Jeffrey and I know that one of his daughters married in to the lepine family, the oldest recent relative that I know about it basil heathcoat lepine-williams.
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Is this in the UK? Any dates for any of those people?
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All in uk and the only dates know is that basil was born 1918 and died 2006 also my grand father has family in usa, new zealand and south africa.
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Lepine is a very common name in France and so there are many all over the world.
If you have an ancestor who was born in the UK then I am sure I will be able to help as I have researched so many branches.
However I have never looked into the branches outside the UK really so not sure I can help much, I'm afraid.
Do post back on here if you come across something in the UK though!
Jon
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Hi Jon,
My great grandmother was a Lepine and her father was Edward Lepine whose father you have found is Samuel Lepine a soldier whose parents were John Lepine and Mary Brett. My Lepine family line has died out with my great grandmother Elizabeth Ellen Lepine. I have been trying to get back further to find out where my ancestors originated from. Samuel died 2 years after Edward was born(1826).
Edward moved to Gloucester and married Susannah Jones. I have been trying to find where Samuel and Edward are buried. I don't know if you have this little bit of information.
Edward (1826) and his brother Samuel (1824) were born in Maidstone. Parents were Samuel (b:1771) (d:1828)and Elizabeth ? Samuel and his brothers Stephen and William were also born in Maidstone. Samuel(1771) joined the army when he was 18 and he was a baker before that.
I have just found other information that you have replied to previously, as to where this line have
descended from.
Thank you for all your hard work.
Karen
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Hi Karen,
Pleased my digging around has helped you. I have done an awful of researching on the Lepines over the years and have researched all the earlier branches to unravel my own family.
Samuel who died in 1828 I think you know his burial so I assume you are referring to the burials of his sons? I do not know where they were buried at the moment, I'm afraid.
All I can offer is the following children for Edward/Edwin Lepine and Susannah/Hannah Jones:
unnamed son Lepine 1851–1851
Elizabeth Ellen Lepine 1852–
Samuel Lepine 1855–1855
Edward Lepine 1856–1858
Charles 'Edwin' Lepine 1860–
Mary Ann Lepine 1862–
Joseph Lepine 1865–1868
Maria Lepine 1868–1868
Kind regards,
Jon
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Just had a little look on ancestry and the Gloucestershire parish registers are up which they weren't last time I looked at this line.
And to my surprise, Samuel Lepine's marriage to the long maiden name-less Elizabeth is there.
They married at Hempstead, Gloustershire, on 4 July 1815 and her maiden name was Steevens [sic].
Samuel and Elizabeth were both of the 'Extraparochial hamlet of Littleworth' and the witnesses were Thomas Venn and Mary Venn.
Furthermore, the daughter Harriett who is named in that 1819 Kent removal record with her parents is also is to be found baptised in Gloucestershire.
She was baptised at St Catherine's Gloucester on 25 May 1818 and her father Samuel is recorded as being a baker.
Further to all this, there is then a 31 May 1830 marriage in Churchdown, Gloucestershire of an Elizabeth Lepine to a Francis Hopkins of St Catherine, Gloucester.
This is surely the widowed Elizabeth, former wife of Samuel Lepine, and she returned to Gloucestershire after the death of her husband where she remarried.
The witnesses were William Uzzell and Ann Uzzell.
That's all I have for now, but it has filled in some missing gaps.
Kind regards,
Jon
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I have Edward and Susannah children, thank you. At first I had thought that Elizabeth Ellen was the only surviving child. But on a visit to Gloucester I discovered that Mary Anne also survived.
She was adopted by Susannah's sister after her father died. Also the one son I can't find any information on is Charles
Something I did find out was when Edward registered the birth he is down as Edwin and Susannah as Hannah. While when Susannah registered the names were correct. My Elizabeth's middle name is down as Helen and not Ellen on one record. Mary Ann's surname was spelt Leppine when living with her Aunt.
Thank you for the other info, I had saw the Samuel and Elizabeth this afternoon but dismissed it because I forgot that Samuel was with the Gloucester regiment when he was discharged. I've been so focused on the Maidstone connection.
The Uzzells are connected through marriage.
Thank you once again for your help.
Kind regards Karen
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Hi,
My 2c2r, Elizabeth Bellingham Grout married Frank Lepine Woodhouse in Sept 1891, both were born in Redhill/Reigate Surrey in about 1868.
Frank's parents were James Woodhouse (b.abt 1820 in Warwickshire) and Ruth Lepine (b.1826 in Paddington, Middlesex). They had married in Jan 1847 in Paddington, Ruth's father was shown as Stephen Lepine, a Cordwainer. On Ruth's baptism her mother was shown as Abigail.
I haven't looked any further back than Stephen & Abigail.
One of Frank & Elizabeth's daughter, Edith Ruth Woodhouse ended up in Australia with her 2 sons (via Hong Kong)
It would be interesting to find out which branch of the Lepine clan they come from.
Cheers
Maurice
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Hi there. I have researched this Stephen's line but out today so will try and remember to reply on here when I am home. If I don't get back to you though, please feel free to remind me here!
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Hi there Maurice,
Have looked at my notes and this is your line:
Jehan de Lespine born before c1554 in La Gorgue, France
Their son Jaques de Lespine born before c1573 in La Gorgue, France, died Cantebury 1601 married Catherine Delbeq
Their son Jan/Jean de Lespine born Canterbury 1594 died 1655 married as his first wife Jaqueline Bariselle in 1630.
Their son Jean Delepine/Lepine born Canterbury 1632 died 1710 married Marie Bonte in 1668
Their son Daniel Lepine born Canterbury, Kent 1687 died 1754 married as his second wife Elizabeth Broadstreet in 1727
Their son Jean/John Lepine born Canterbury 1732 died 1804 married Mary Brett in 1761
Their son John Lepine born Canterbury 1764 died after 1820 married Mary Arrowsmith in 1787
Their son Stephen Lepine born Maidstone 1789 died 1868 married Abigail Merefield in 1811
Their daughter Ruth Lepine born Holborn 1826 died 1886 married James Woodhouse in 1847
I have the following children for them:
Mary Ann Woodhouse 1847–
Emily Davies\Davis Woodhouse 1849–1911
Walter James Woodhouse 1850–1932
Charles Arthur Woodhouse 1851–
Bertha Elizabeth Woodhouse 1853–
Stephen John Woodhouse 1855–
Henry Edmund Woodhouse 1856–1905
Clara Jane Woodhouse 1858–1931
Joseph William Woodhouse 1860–
Alice Ruth Woodhouse 1861–1863
Alfred Ernest Woodhouse 1864–
Sidney Woodhouse 1865–
Frederick George Woodhouse 1866–
Frank Lepine Woodhouse 1868–1903
They seem like they were a very fertile couple!
Feel free to ask me anything on the above.
Kind regards,
Jon
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Hi Jon,
Many thanks for the information, greatly appreciated.
Yes, very prolific. I'm amazed that it was possible to raise such a large family on one income, perhaps being a mason had something to do with it.
Cheers
Maurice
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Hi there,
I don't expect you'll remember but I have been in contact with you before but at that time, although you knew of the line of Jules Etienne Lepine who had not yet investigated it. I was wondering if you have now had a chance as I am currently looking into the line and while I am aware that his father was Ambroise Lepine born around 1790 and I believe in Montmartin, I have several possibles in respect of his mother. I also managed to find some possible siblings but, as trying to find my way around french records, is a case of the blind leading the blind, I have no idea if I am on the right track.
I am not sure when Jules Etienne arrived in this country but he married Marie Alexanderine Evrevin in 1865 in Islington and his second son Emile married my grandmother's aunt, Lavinia Maynard. The Lepine's at that time were very much par of my family due to Lavinia dying young and they partially raised her two children before Emile married again. My aunt who is 95 remembers them well and my dad always talked about Uncle Emile.
Yours
Prue
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Hi Prue,
Sorry I completely missed your reply on here. I haven't done any more digging on Jules I am afraid but have just had a look on ancestry and seen your tree there.
What is interesting is that your Lepine line were from Oise in Picardie and my Huguenot ancestors were from Compiègne which is about 40 km away.
Do you know if your Lepines were Catholic or Protestant at all? I wonder if they came from the same line? However the name Lepine and its variants is not exactly uncommon.
Sorry I cannot help more.
Jon
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Hi Jon,
On the whole I believe the family where basically Protestant however the odd member seems to have been Catholic and several married in Registrar Offices. Mind you if you split my family down to the four lines of my grandparents/great grandparents then you'll find a mixture of Protestant and Catholic and it would seem to be a family who changed circumstances to suit themselves.
I was always lead to believe they were Protestants but as I said I have come across those members that certainly weren't.
According to the marriage certificate I have, Jules Etienne Ambroise lepine married Alexandrine Maria Evrevin in the Catholic Chapel in Cornwall Place, Islington but of course, I have no way of knowing or rather I haven't come across anything to advise me as to which one of them was Catholic or if both were.
I have however just looked at the war records of several of his grandsons that lost their lives in the Great War and they have stated they were Church of England.
I have to admit at times they have proved to be very difficult to pin down and some have completely vanished probably because they perhaps started to spell Lepine differently. Doesn't help, does it.
Regards Prue
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Hi Jon,
Have recently found you / site. Can you help on information regarding a GEORGE LEPINE b 1823 Boxley, Maidstone - married ELIZABETH BARBARA DUNN b 1824.
I have only just started my research into this family through WILLIAM ELLIOTT / ELIZABETH LEPINE marriage of Sept qtr 1874 St.Saviour,Walworth. ELLEN ELLIOTT b 1880.Their Daughter / my Grandmother.
Any information that you can possibly help with, would be on GEORGE LEPINE b1823 parents STEPHAN LEPINE & his wife LUCY PAWLEY. I have them from on GEORGE LEPINE' S christening of JAN 1824.
I have GEORGE'S history up to the 1881 Census.
Any info. would be much appreciated.
Regards J.
Merry Christmas & Happy New Year.
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Hi J.
I do indeed have your George Lepine's ancestry and marriage in my study of the Lepine family.
Your line is therefore as follows:
Jehan de Lespine born before c1554 in La Gorgue, France
Their son Jaques de Lespine born before c1573 in La Gorgue, France, died Cantebury 1601 married Catherine Delbeq
Their son Jan/Jean de Lespine born Canterbury 1594 died 1655 married as his first wife Jaqueline Bariselle in 1630.
Their son Jean Delepine/Lepine born Canterbury 1632 died 1710 married Marie Bonte in 1668
Their son Daniel Lepine born Canterbury, Kent 1687 died 1754 married as his second wife Elizabeth Broadstreet in 1727
Their son Jean/John Lepine born Canterbury 1732 died 1804 married Mary Brett in 1761
Their son Stephen Lepine born Maidstone 1767 died 1808 married Ann Beeching in 1790
Their son Stephen Lepine born Maidstone 1792 died 1861 married Lucy Pawley in 1812
Their son George Lepine born Boxley 1823 died 1886 married Elizabeth Barbara Dunn in 1850
Best wishes,
Jon
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Jon,
Many thanks for you answering to my enquiry.
Would I be right to assume that the STEPHEN LEPINE b 1792 / d 1861 marriage to LUCY PAWLEY, that this marriage was his first aged 20. They married 25th Dec 1812. I have found another STEPHEN LEPINE marrying a MARY ALLEN 15/04/1827. I have not found a death certificate?? for LUCY. Marrying Mary I take it is his second wife?. Any help/info. on the above very much appreciated.
Best Regards, J
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Hi J,
Here are some fuller details for your line with further information:
Jan/Jehan de Lespine born before c1548 in La Gorgue, France. He is presumably the Jan de Lespine who was granted permission to reside in Canterbury on 18 October 1583. Therefore he died after 1583.
His son Jaques de Lespine born before c1570 in La Gorgue, France, died Cantebury 1601. He married Catherine Delbeq in Canterbury in 1591 and they had 4 daughters and 1 son. She was born in Sailly, France before c1573 and after Jaques' death remarried Francois de Richbourg in Canterbury in 1602.
His son Jan/Jean de Lespine born Canterbury 1594 died Canterbury 1655. He married as his first wife Jaqueline Bariselle in Canterbury 1630 and had 3 sons. She was born in Lille, Nord-Pas-de-Calais, France, and was the daughter of Charles de Bariselle and Eline. Jaqueline died in Canterbury in 1632 and after her death Jean remarried Susanne le Grand between 1632 and 1635 although I cannot find the marriage. Jean left a will and was buried in St Alphege, Canterbury.
His son Jean Delepine/Lepine by is first wife born Canterbury 1632 died Canterbury 1710. He married Marie Bonte in Canterbury in 1668 and had 9 sons and 4 daughters. She was born in Canterbury in 1649 and was the daughter of Jean Bonte and Jeane Galman. She died in 1712. Jean was buried at Holy Cross Church, Westgate, Canterbury.
His son Daniel Lepine born Canterbury, Kent 1687 died Canterbury 1754. He was a recipient of the Jane Basse Charity administered by the French Church of London and is named in her will. He married as his first wife Marie Vendome in Canterbury in 1711 and had 4 sons & 3 daughters. She died in 1726. He married as his second wife Elizabeth Broadstreet in Whitstable in 1727 and had 3 daughters and 6 sons. Elizabeth died in 1746. Daniel was buried at Holy Cross Church, Westgate, Canterbury.
His son Jean/John Lepine by his second wife born Canterbury 1732 died Maidstone 1804. He married as his first wife Mary Brett in Rochester, Kent, in 1761 and had 5 sons. She died in Maidstone in 1780 and he remarried widow Mary Walter in St Saviour Southwark, Surrey, in 1794. They had no children and she died in 1801 in Maidstone. John was an executor to the will of his brother Stephen in 1797 and became a recipient of the Jane Basse Charity in 1803.
His son Stephen Lepine born Maidstone 1767 died Maidstone 1808. He married firstly Ann Beeching in Maidstone in 1790 and had 1 daughter and 2 sons. She died in Maidstone in 1795 and he then remarried Ann Danes in 1801 in Boxley. They had 2 daughters and 1 son. He was buried at All Saints Maidstone.
His son Stephen Lepine by his first wife born Maidstone 1792 died Maidstone 1861. He married firstly Lucy Pawley in Boxley in 1812 and had 4 sons and 1 daughter. She died in Boxley in 1825 and he then remarried Mary Allen in Boxley in 1827 and had 5 sons and 3 daughters. Probate was granted to two of his sons in 1861 with his effects valued at under £200.
His son George Lepine by his first wife born Boxley 1823 died 236 Walworth Road, Surrey, 1886. He married Elizabeth Barbara Dunn in Kennington, Surrey, in 1850.
Best wishes,
Jon
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Jon,
How / where and what words do I start with to thank you, firstly and mainly your knowledge and understanding of what family history is and what it holds for all of us individually. To me the patience that is needed to persist with family history, you must have in abundance, as a totally bottomless well. The amount of info. that you have put in front of me, is just unbelievable. Seeing what you have managed / knowledge of / supplied me with, I feel like I have suddenly been hit by a double-decker bus and hit by lighting, - I am totally gobsmacked by it all. I was just not expecting what you have supplied me with, many, many thanks again.
Have a Happy New Year, make sure you celebrate well.
Best Regards to all your family, J
P.S. - Just out of curiosity how are we connected in the LEPINE line?.
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Hi J,
Here are some fuller details for your line with further information:
Jan/Jehan de Lespine born before c1548 in La Gorgue, France. He is presumably the Jan de Lespine who was granted permission to reside in Canterbury on 18 October 1583. Therefore he died after 1583.
His son Jaques de Lespine born before c1570 in La Gorgue, France, died Cantebury 1601. He married Catherine Delbeq in Canterbury in 1591 and they had 4 daughters and 1 son. She was born in Sailly, France before c1573 and after Jaques' death remarried Francois de Richbourg in Canterbury in 1602.
His son Jan/Jean de Lespine born Canterbury 1594 died Canterbury 1655. He married as his first wife Jaqueline Bariselle in Canterbury 1630 and had 3 sons. She was born in Lille, Nord-Pas-de-Calais, France, and was the daughter of Charles de Bariselle and Eline. Jaqueline died in Canterbury in 1632 and after her death Jean remarried Susanne le Grand between 1632 and 1635 although I cannot find the marriage. Jean left a will and was buried in St Alphege, Canterbury.
His son Jean Delepine/Lepine by is first wife born Canterbury 1632 died Canterbury 1710. He married Marie Bonte in Canterbury in 1668 and had 9 sons and 4 daughters. She was born in Canterbury in 1649 and was the daughter of Jean Bonte and Jeane Galman. She died in 1712. Jean was buried at Holy Cross Church, Westgate, Canterbury.
His son Daniel Lepine born Canterbury, Kent 1687 died Canterbury 1754. He was a recipient of the Jane Basse Charity administered by the French Church of London and is named in her will. He married as his first wife Marie Vendome in Canterbury in 1711 and had 4 sons & 3 daughters. She died in 1726. He married as his second wife Elizabeth Broadstreet in Whitstable in 1727 and had 3 daughters and 6 sons. Elizabeth died in 1746. Daniel was buried at Holy Cross Church, Westgate, Canterbury.
His son Jean/John Lepine by his second wife born Canterbury 1732 died Maidstone 1804. He married as his first wife Mary Brett in Rochester, Kent, in 1761 and had 5 sons. She died in Maidstone in 1780 and he remarried widow Mary Walter in St Saviour Southwark, Surrey, in 1794. They had no children and she died in 1801 in Maidstone. John was an executor to the will of his brother Stephen in 1797 and became a recipient of the Jane Basse Charity in 1803.
His son Stephen Lepine born Maidstone 1767 died Maidstone 1808. He married firstly Ann Beeching in Maidstone in 1790 and had 1 daughter and 2 sons. She died in Maidstone in 1795 and he then remarried Ann Danes in 1801 in Boxley. They had 2 daughters and 1 son. He was buried at All Saints Maidstone.
His son Stephen Lepine by his first wife born Maidstone 1792 died Maidstone 1861. He married firstly Lucy Pawley in Boxley in 1812 and had 4 sons and 1 daughter. She died in Boxley in 1825 and he then remarried Mary Allen in Boxley in 1827 and had 5 sons and 3 daughters. Probate was granted to two of his sons in 1861 with his effects valued at under £200.
His son George Lepine by his first wife born Boxley 1823 died 236 Walworth Road, Surrey, 1886. He married Elizabeth Barbara Dunn in Kennington, Surrey, in 1850.
Best wishes,
Jon
Jon
Again thank you for all your info. -- On the above, would you be able to supply the details of the children from both the Stephen Lepine b1792 two marriages of Lucy Pawley and Married Allen ? Many thanks J
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Thanks, pleased it was useful. I have been doing but became a one name study of the name Lepine for the past ten years so have looked at most of the lines to the mid nineteenth century.
Lots of people have researched the Lepine lines over the past two hundred years due to the great fortune of intestate lunatic Maria L'Epine who died in 1798. Lots of things became very confused as many Lepine descendants tried to make a claim on the money in Chancery.
However by the time the case came to court in 1927 (by someone allegedly on Maria's maternal line) the statute of limitations said that as it was over one hundred years since her death and there was nothing to answer to and the case was thrown out. Those who brought the claim (the Knight Masons) bankrupted themselves in the process. For many it became something of an obsession.
Anyway there was more than one Lepine who came to the UK from France over the years. Lepine or de l'Epine, Delepine, Lespine, Delespine and all its variants is not a rare name in France. You might know that it means 'Thorn' in English and this was sometimes used in records as well.
Your line came over to England in the late 1500s from La Gorgue and settled in Canterbury before various branches moved elsewhere. My line is actually different and they were from a family of the name name from Picardie and they were from an uncle and two nephews who came over to London from 1679 to 1730.
However due to the confusion in the lines, my ancestor Isaac Lepine (1750-1828) became a recipient of the Jane Basse charity which was really meant for the descendants of the Canterbury line.
I also know that Edward Lepine (1761-1822) who was the son of your John Lepine (1732-1804) was a shoemaker in London. Someone connected to the late mad Maria L'Epine saw the name and contacted him. He in turn came to visit my ancestral aunt Susanna Lepine/Hunter/Crawford/Boston (1727-1814) about the case and it was how my line found out about it. This is recorded in statements which survive relating to the case from 1805.
It is a fascinating line to research and will be surely be one of your most interesting lines.
Best wishes,
Jon
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Jon
Again thank you for all your info. -- On the above, would you be able to supply the details of the children from both the Stephen Lepine b1792 two marriages of Lucy Pawley and Married Allen ? Many thanks J
Here you go...
Children of Stephen Lepine (1792-1861):
With first wife Lucy Pawley\Lepine (1793–1825) who he married in 1812
1. Rev. Stephen Lepine (1813–1895)
2. William Lepine (1815–1815/29)
3. John Lepine (1818–1839)
4. Eliza Lepine (1820–?)
5. George Lepine (1823–1886)
With second wife Mary Allen\Lepine (c1801/2–?) who he married in 1827:
6. James Lepine (1827–aft 1861)
7. William Lepine (1829–?)
8. Edward Lepine (1832–?)
9. Marianne\Mary Ann Lepine\Dane (1834–?)
10. Robert Lepine (1836–1865)
11. Maria Lepine\Reynolds (1838–aft 1863)
12. Angelina Lepine (1842–1851)
13. Henry Lepine (1845–?)
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Jon
Again thank you for all your info. -- On the above, would you be able to supply the details of the children from both the Stephen Lepine b1792 two marriages of Lucy Pawley and Married Allen ? Many thanks J
Jon,
Many Many thanks again,
Are you / do you have the information of what 2 Son's received the inheritance, or can you tell me where the best place to start to look for this info, please ????
Best Regards, JUST J
Here you go...
Children of Stephen Lepine (1792-1861):
With first wife Lucy Pawley\Lepine (1793–1825) who he married in 1812
1. Rev. Stephen Lepine (1813–1895)
2. William Lepine (1815–1815/29)
3. John Lepine (1818–1839)
4. Eliza Lepine (1820–?)
5. George Lepine (1823–1886)
With second wife Mary Allen\Lepine (c1801/2–?) who he married in 1827:
6. James Lepine (1827–aft 1861)
7. William Lepine (1829–?)
8. Edward Lepine (1832–?)
9. Marianne\Mary Ann Lepine\Dane (1834–?)
10. Robert Lepine (1836–1865)
11. Maria Lepine\Reynolds (1838–aft 1863)
12. Angelina Lepine (1842–1851)
13. Henry Lepine (1845–?)
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Jon,
Many Many thanks again,
Are you / do you have the information of what 2 Son's received the inheritance, or can you tell me where the best place to start to look for this info, please ????
Best Regards, JUST J
The information is on his probate can be found at the link below and you can also order a copy of the will form the site. The names on this are for the executors but I don't know what the will says.
https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/Calendar?surname=lepine&yearOfDeath=1861&page=6#calendar
The probate shows he had effects of less than £200. Using the National Archives currency converter, this would have been the equivalent of £8,632.00 in 2005.
The document shows that he was of the Queen Ann Inn in Maidstone. There is still a Queen Ann pub in Maidstone which is presumably the same place.
Kind regards,
Jon
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Tracing the Lepine family if anyone can help with the history of Jean Lepine who married Marie Bonte on 9th August 1668
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Hi Shervic,
Sorry for the delay in replying to you, but it has been a very busy few months.
Your line goes:
Jehan de Lespine born before c1554 in La Gorgue, France. He is presumably the Jan de Lespine who was granted permission to reside in Canterbury, Kent on 18 October 1583. (Huguenot Proceedings 77 Vol XXII Issue 4 1973-4 pp.313)
His son Jaques de Lespine born before c1673 in La Gorgue, France, died Cantebury 1601 married Canterbury in 1591 Catherine Delbeq (b. bef 1673 Sailly, France, m. Francois de Richbourg 1602, d. after 1602). They had 4 daughters and 1 son.
Their son Jan/Jean de Lespine born Canterbury 1594 died Canterbury 1655 married as his first wife Jaqueline Bariselle (b. bef c1612 in Lille, d. 1632 Canterbury) in Canterbury in 1630. They had 3 sons. Jean remarried Susanna Susanne le Grand c1632-1635 but I have never found their marriage.
Jean and Jaqueline's son Jean Delepine/Lepine born Canterbury 1632 died Canterbury 1710 married Marie Bonte (b. 1649 Canterbury, died 1711/12 Canterbury.) in Canterbury in 1668. They had 9 sons and 4 daughters.
Kind regards,
Jon
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Hello everyone, especially Jon whose posts I have just discovered.
I too am descended from the Lepines. My great grandfather was Frank Lepine Woodhouse and my line via his mother Ruth goes back to Jehan in La Gorgue as Jon documents.
My mother researched the family in the 1990s and I have picked up her work. She is still alive but does not research the family any more. Her mother was Maude Woodhouse, daughter of Frank Lepine Woodhouse.
My recent interest is the "Canterbury era" and the families the Lepines married. Namely the Bontés, the Galmars/Gallemars and the Sixes. These families seemed to intermarry quite a bit. They all come from around Lille, especially Wambrechies. But I can't get any further back than Thomas Six, born 1532. I think the connection between him and the Sixes on Familysearch is wrong.
Anyway, if anyone is reading this thread still, I would be delighted to share what I have.
Adrian
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Hi,
My 2c2r, Elizabeth Bellingham Grout married Frank Lepine Woodhouse in Sept 1891, both were born in Redhill/Reigate Surrey in about 1868.
Frank's parents were James Woodhouse (b.abt 1820 in Warwickshire) and Ruth Lepine (b.1826 in Paddington, Middlesex). They had married in Jan 1847 in Paddington, Ruth's father was shown as Stephen Lepine, a Cordwainer. On Ruth's baptism her mother was shown as Abigail.
I haven't looked any further back than Stephen & Abigail.
One of Frank & Elizabeth's daughter, Edith Ruth Woodhouse ended up in Australia with her 2 sons (via Hong Kong)
It would be interesting to find out which branch of the Lepine clan they come from.
Cheers
Maurice
That would be my (great) Aunt Edith, known as Ruth. The sons are still there, Ian and ?John?. One made a lot of money truffle farming. They are my mother's cousins and still in touch.
Ruth and her sister Maude were working in HK in 1930. Maude (my grandmother) married Albert Jillott, prison officer. They all fled HK to Australia before the Japanese invasion. My mother's family moved back to HK then to the UK in the early 1950s. We have bits of family in Australia to this day.
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Hi, just searched LEPINE & found this thread. My Great Great Great Grandfather was Edward Lepine from Maidstone Kent. His daughter was my Great Great Grandmother Elizabeth Ellen Lepine. She married John Goddard at St Nicholas Church in Gloucester 1871. There is no record of her death that I can find. Elizabeth & John had a son Alfred Thomas Goddard born 16th April 1891 . He was their youngest & my Great Grandfather who passed on 30th October 1967. He married Laura Lane & their eldest daughter Lillian Goddard (my Grandmother) was born July 2nd 1917. She married Walter Lawrence & their only son Trevor Lawrence was born 17th May 1940. Trevor is my father & I'm his youngest son Derek. Looks like username "Kaytay" may be a distant relation. Please feel free to comment. Thanks in advance Derek Lawrence
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Hi, just searched LEPINE & found this thread. My Great Great Great Grandfather was Edward Lepine from Maidstone Kent. His daughter was my Great Great Grandmother Elizabeth Ellen Lepine. She married John Goddard at St Nicholas Church in Gloucester 1871. There is no record of her death that I can find.
Looking at ancestry trees, they have her death as Elizabeth E. Goddard aged 75 in the September 1927 quarter in Gloucester. She is in the electoral roll at 5 Sabrina Cottages in Gloucester with John Goddard, so this does seem to be correct from what I have seen. But you should double check this.
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Thanks that's very helpful. I can update the family tree :)