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Title: Richard Rafter
Post by: enfield on Wednesday 10 February 10 08:24 GMT (UK)

I am searching for information on Richard Rafter who is buried in Ballyfin. I am not sure if there are more than one cemetery in Ballyfin. He died in 1917 and was brother of Cornelius Rafter who died a month or so before him.
 Any help in this matter would be very much appreciated. I am happy to help any Laoise researchers with their ww1 dead.
 Kind regards.
 Tom.

Title: Re: Richard Rafter
Post by: Jack2227 on Wednesday 10 February 10 19:37 GMT (UK)

St John the Baptist cemetery Ballyfin. (headstone records)

Rafter Maryann; Feb 1861 (92)
Rafter John; March 02 (101)

Rafter William; 16/10/1912 (57) Ballylusk
Rafter William; 15/1/1931 (80)

Rafter John; Feb 1926 (87)
Alexander (son); May 1913 (26)
Rafter George A; 5/6/1915 (24) Killed in action.
Rafter William H; Sept 1917 (45)
Rafter Richard; Sept 1917 (35)
Rafter Thomas; June 1920  (26)
Rafter Dan; 27/5/1922 (32)
Rafter Samuel; 1/4/1925 (47)
Rafter Sarah (sis); Jan 1933 (84)
Rafter Robert; Aug 1934 (50)
Rafter Annie; Nov 1918 (29)

Jack

Title: Re: Richard Rafter
Post by: enfield on Wednesday 10 February 10 19:53 GMT (UK)

Thank you Sean, are these all on one headstone or single graves?
 Kind regards.
Tom

Title: Re: Richard Rafter
Post by: Jack2227 on Thursday 11 February 10 09:24 GMT (UK)

Different headstones, I'll get over there to-day (Thursday) and try to get photo's. Send me your e-mail via PM and I'll send on same.
Jack

Title: Re: Richard Rafter
Post by: enfield on Thursday 11 February 10 09:30 GMT (UK)

Thank you Sean.
 I have Pm'd you.
Kind regards.
 Tom.

Title: Re: Richard Rafter
Post by: Mick_Dolan86 on Sunday 23 May 10 23:09 BST (UK)

Was Richard Rafter in the Royal Irish Regiment? He's commemorated on this memorial in Clonmel but doesn't appear on the CWGC.

(http://www.irishwarmemorials.ie/html/showPicture.php?pictureID=1257)

Title: Re: Richard Rafter
Post by: enfield on Monday 24 May 10 08:47 BST (UK)

I often come across this type of thing. The Cahir memorial is littered with it. 'They' the people who compiled it,  don't and won't tell you the criteria for inclusion. I found men who died of wounds after discharge from the army and other men who died long after the war  and even some lads with their name mis-spelled but the powers that be, put him on a memorial, to confuse us all.
 Regards.
 Tom.

Title: Re: Richard Rafter
Post by: aghadowey on Monday 24 May 10 08:56 BST (UK)

Local war memorials were usually organised by a committee and different criteria were used to compile the names to be included. Often lists were made up by the committee members and members of the poublic were asked for contributions. I know of one local memorial which omits the name of a soldier who won the Military Medal and died in the war (strangely enough his father was on the committee).
It's most likely that records don't survive to explain the criteria used.

Title: Re: Richard Rafter
Post by: ballincollig military on Monday 09 June 14 12:42 BST (UK)

hi
being from ballyfin originally, i am wondering where this john the baptist graveyard is.
anne

Title: Re: Richard Rafter
Post by: conahy calling on Monday 09 June 14 16:02 BST (UK)

http://historicgraves.com/graveyard/st-john-baptist-ballyfin/la-sjbb

http://www.buildingsofireland.ie/niah/search.jsp?county=LA&regno=12801212&type=record

Info about John the Baptist graveyard Ballyfin

Title: Re: Richard Rafter
Post by: Jack2227 on Monday 09 June 14 18:27 BST (UK)

St John the Baptist church and cemetery is beside Ballyfin college.

If you turn right at the college gates, then the next left, the gates are there about 50 yards, on the left hand side.
There is a small chain on the gates, but it can be opened.
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Jack

Title: Re: Richard Rafter
Post by: ballincollig military on Wednesday 11 June 14 14:32 BST (UK)

Thanks John,
I should have remembered its the 'Protestant' church.
Anne