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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Cheshire => Topic started by: AbbieC on Friday 12 February 10 17:04 GMT (UK)
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I am looking for information on my great grandfather James Williams born in Stockport approx 1840. His father was Roger Williams (no further information). James married Sarah Ann Whitehead in Dentom Manchester in 1880. I cannot find Roger in the census or BMD. CAN ANYONE HELP WITH THIS PLEASE?
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Abbie,
Do you have James and and Sarah's marriage certificate and if so, does it say whether Roger is deceased at that time?
Jen
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I have James and Sarah's marriage certificate and Roger was alive at the time of the marriage. He was a shoemaker.
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Found them in 1851
HO107/2155/154/30
4, Allcocks ?
Roger Williams, 49, Cord Winder, Liverpool
Elizabeth, 48, Stockport
Hanna, 14
James, 12, Doffer
Charles, 8
Hanna has an occupation but I am struggling to read it. All offspring born Stockport.
Cord Winder will be Cordwainer = shoemaker.
Jen
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This looks like the family in 1841 but Roger isn't listed.
Edward St. Stockport HO107/113/7
Elizabeth Williams, 35, Shoe Binder
Edward, 15
Mary, 14
Hannah, 5
James, 2
I'll see if I can find Roger somewhere else.
Jen
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Thanks Jen
Are you using ancestry as I can seem to find this on 1851 census.
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I am using An*****y, yes but he has been transcribed as Roger William - no 's' on the end. The original image definitely says Williams.
Can't find Roger in 1841? ???
Jen
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Thanks Jen
I will see if I can find them. I see from your search interests you list Williams in Hants. I also have Williams in Hants, in Portsmouth.
Thank you so much for your help. I was floundering.
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No problem - it sometimes just takes an extra pair of eyes or a different way of approaching a problem. :)
My Williams family was from Portsea but I know very little about them, other than Ann, born around 1812, daughter of Emmanuel Williams and Ann Grose. Ann married Samuel Cant in Essex and was my 3 x great grandmother.
Jen
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Hi Abbie,
Have a look at www.cheshirebmd.org.uk - the mother's maiden name is given for some districts and Stockport is one of them.
There is a birth for a James Williams in 1839 and a Charles in 1843 which might fit the census details from 1851. Mother's maiden name is WHITTAKER / WHITAKER.
Possible marriage is:
Roger WILLIAMS m Elizabeth WITTAKER [sic] 24 Jun 1822 at Cheadle. You would need to purchase the birth certificate for one of the children born after 1837 to be sure.
Hope this helps,
Jean
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Thanks Jean, thats very helpful. I did find an entry on Family Search for a marriage for Roger Williams and Elizabeth Whittaker but without another site entry to verify it is difficult to be sure. I will look at the site and get a copy of the certificate. Have you ordered any certs from that site or do you go through PRO.
Thanks Genjen also for your help with this search. This site is amazing!
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Hi Abbie,
You can order from either local or general register offices, but the index references are different so don't mix them up!!
The cost is the same, the only difference is that if you are reference checking the local office doesn't charge if there is no match, but GRO do.
Jean
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That makes sense. I have ordered through PRO but not from local offices. I did wonder about the reference from Cheshirebmd? I will give them a go. Thanks again for your help. Its a shame they only go back to 1837.