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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Antrim => Topic started by: Geoff on Friday 14 May 04 01:12 BST (UK)
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Hi
My interset in Antrim is the McCONNELL & TODD families of Ballyeaston / Ballyclare areas
William McCONNELL born Cogry 1808 married Margaret TODD born Cogry 1812, they married at Ballyeaston in 1833. I take it that Cogry is a hamlet around Ballyeaston.
They had 3 children that I know of:
Margaret b 1834
Thomas b c1835
Agnes b 1841
Somehow Agnes was on a ship contracted to bring immigrants from Donegal to Australia as part of what was known as the Donegal Relief Fund. She Married Michael DUGAN/DUGGAN on the voyage out to Australia,
Anyone know of this family??
Cheers
Geoff
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Hi Geoff,
having been born in Ireland you would think I would have checked this board before. I only did so because Kazza gave us a nudge.
My father comes from the area you are researching. Unfortunately he is not quite old enough to know your ancestors!
I can however tell you this - Dad says that McConnell's owned a pub at Doagh which is about 2 miles from Cogry which is a very small village close to Ballyclare.
He believes McConnells were Funeral Directors in Ballyclare.
He tells me his mother's cousin was married to a Todd from Glenwherry which is Dad's birthplace and about 5 miles from Ballyclare.
Unfortunately my grandparents are dead - they may have known something....
Dad will ring his brother tonight and see if we can find out anything for you.
Cheers
Aaron
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Hi Aaron,
Thank You & also pass on my thanks to your Dad.
This has been an extremely hard line to do any research on.
Any clue would be greatly appreciated.
Cheers
Geoff
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Hi again Geoff,
nobody is at home at the moment in Co. Antrim - they must all be out enjoying the good weather. ::)
I was wondering if you have had a look at the signing of the Ulster Covenant on the PRONI site. I just had a look and two Todds from Cogry signed it - Mary Ann Todd & Agnes Todd.
There are also a few McConnells on it from Ballyclare.
The Covenant was signed on Sept. 28th 1912.
Of course only the Loyalists signed the Covenant so if your ancestors are RC it wouldn't be any use looking ;D
My Dad has just remembered that his cousin had the middle name of McConnell because she was called after the district midwife who delivered her - also in the Ballyclare area.
Geoff, if we are not related through the Fishers of Lincolnshire it will be through the Todds and McConnells of Ballyclare!
Cheers
Aaron
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Hello, My great Grandfather WILLIAM AIKEN (census of 1901 & 1911 held) married a MARGARET TODD (WEDDING CERT HELD) 31 ST MAY 1881 ,ST PATRICKS BALLMACARROT, Belfast. WILLIAM'S Father was WILLIAM AIKEN LABOURER (deceased) and MARGARET'S father was HUGH TODD who was a QUAY LABOURER in 1881. It may be of some use to you - even if it's only to eliminate these names from any lists you might have.
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Hi itsme :D
and hello to Northern Ireland ;D.
I have a friend here in Oz called Gibson who came from the Shankill area of Belfast.
He would love to trace the father he never knew. Are your Gibsons from anywhere near there?
I was born at Rathcoole, Newtownabbey and my Irish relatives are in Antrim Town & Holywood.
Great to talk to home ;)
Regards
Aaron ;)
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Hiya again - some more info about the Todds in my family tree.
My GreatGMother MARGARET TODD was born 11 APRIL 1858 ,GRANGE OF DOAGH ANTRIM and she was christened on 2 MAY 1858, her parents were HUGH TODD and JANE PERCY
HUGH TODD's father was ANDREW TODD and JANE PERCY's father was ROBERT PERCY.
HUGH TODD and JANE PERCY were married 24 JUNE 1854 ANTRIM
P.S. Sorry about the 'BIG' crest I'll have to resize it!
Hi Aaron, My Gibson's come from there too! I hope I can help your friend :)
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Waves to Oz ;D
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Hi again itsme,
Geoff, do any of these names from itsme ring a bell for you? It would be great if there was a connection. :D
I will get some more info on the Gibsons from the Shankill and get back to you.
Regards
Aaron
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Hi Aaron, I'll check back to see if you've any news from your friend - hoping we're connected!
g'night from Norn' Ireland ;)
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itme,
I will send you a private message when I get the details.
Bye, Aaron
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I had the chance to read you inquiry and noticed that one of your surnames for Henry..could this be connected with McHenry?
I have ancestors thru Daniel McHenry of Kenbaan Castle and through the Dublin Penny Magazine of 1832-33 they mention how well known they are...but alas nothing in the Ireland Archives...although they did marry into the O'Neal/O'Neil's.
Happy hunting
Teri
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You might want to check out https://drake.uknoc.co.uk for several TODD's buried in Rashee -- which is an old graveyard just west of Ballyeaston. (Some of these TODD's are in my line).
When I was in Belfast in '93, they graveyard was bramble-overgrown & the Ulster Historical Foundation had never heard of it.
I was very happy to find that they have now transcribed what I was crawling over brambles trying to do!!
dawghows
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Hi Dawghows
I tried your link above to see if I could see any of my Antrim Todds but it shows a blank page! Any ideas?
Tis maybeees me! :(
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Profound apologies!! :-[
I've been reading rootschat forums all day & I think I'm starting to lose the ability to think clearly -- can you imagine?? :o
Anyway, try this:
http://www.historyfromheadstones.com
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There is also:
http://www.irishgenealogy.ie/gravestones
but I notice Rashee is not listed.
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Hi
My gt gt grandmother Agnes McConnell also came from Ballyeaston. She was born about 1821. Someone looked up the Ballyeaston entries for that time for me. I have had a look but can't find any that would match for you. The nearest would be the children of James - Margaretm 1830; Thomas, 1833 and Samuel 1835. They lived at Bona ...g... - the person couldn't decipher it. Sorry.
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Hi,
Could be BONAMARGY near Ballycastle.
Regards
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Thanks for this - do you have any idea where it actually is?
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hi
Was the place near Ballyeaston??
What was your gt gt grandmothers married name. I might be able to help you.
John
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Hi,
According to Google and my maps it is immeditely to the east of the town of Ballycastle in Co. Antrim. There is a well known Friary there.
Regards
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Thanks so much for this.
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Kingsgate, so I can get it straight ... re the James - Magt marr 1830: Is that James Todd m Magt Magee? Or are you speaking of McConnell's?
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Hi
I was referring to the McConnells.
By the way I seem to have missed one of the message so sorry for not responding to one message but that is the reason. My gt gt grandmothers married name was Hilditch, but I do have the details of her marriage - just a few months later and I would have had the name of their parents, but they married just before the start of civil registration - and its not mentioned in the marriage entry.
I will keep looking for you though and if anything turns up will let you know.
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I am new to rootschat but I believe the Todds of Coggrey near Ballyclare are related to the Todd family of Mary Todd who married a US President by the name of Abraham Lincoln.
I'm searching for modern descendants of the Todds of Coggrey.
Richard McMurtry
Los GAtos CA
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My grandmothers maiden name was Todd she was born in Belfast on 17 August 1899 her father was Nathaniel Todd born in Cogry Co.Antrim and died in Belfast on 22nd April 1913. Nathaniel was married to Sarah McCurley died 18th March 1942.They married in 1st Ballyeaston pres. church on the 16th June 1884.
They had seven children.
Susana Todd born 22 April 1886. Cogry,Ballyclare
Jeannette Todd born 13th June 1888 Cogry, Ballyclare
Thomas Todd born 29th April 1890. Ligoniel, Belfast.
William Todd born 7th April 1892. Ligoniel, Belfast
Robert Todd born 1st February 1894 Ligoniel, Belfast
Alice Todd born 17th August 1899 Ligoniel, Belfast. (my grandmother)
James Todd born14th June 1901. Ligoniel Belfast.
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Hi Rollcaster,
If you go to my website, you will see the census of 1813 that included all the Todds of Cogry area.
Todd Families in America Website: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mcmurtriecfr/todd.htm
or just google:
Toddentrancefinal
Also is the just completed Irish and Scottish Todd DNA study which showed matching DNA for the Coggry Todds in Bonhill, Dumbarton (south of Loch Lomond), Haghill of Glasgow,and Livingston/Bathgate West Lothian. So this may be the area of Scotland where your family lived before coming to Ireland.
It would be great if you would consider doing a DNA study just to confirm that your branch shares a common ancestor with the other Todds of this area.
By any chance, do uyou have a a cop of the marriage record of Nathaniel in 1884? That would tell us his father's name. The census shows his birth as 1859 - just a few years before the Civil Registration of Births. So the marriage record would be the only clue to his parentage.
Richard McMurtry
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Hi,
Marriage was on 16 Jun 1884 in Ballysillan Presbyterian Church, Shankill, Belfast. Fathers were William Todd and Robert McCurley.
Regards
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Hi
From First Ballyeaston Baptismal records:
Nathaniel Tod, born 16 May 1858 in Coggery to William Tod and Agnes Robinson.
other children:
Mary Jane 1849
William John 1851
Susanna 1853
Andrew 1856
Mary 1860
Robert Johnston 1864
Isabella 1867
I can give you more detail of the dates if you want.
John
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HI John,
I wonder why we can't find the marriage record for William and Agnes Robinson Todd?
Or do you have that information?
What is your interest in the Todds?
One of my interests is confirming that the Todds of Coggry shared the DNA pattern of the Mary Todd Lincoln group of Todds and the Loch Lomond, Dumbartonshire group of Todds, thereby linking Scotland to Ireland and to America.
Richard McMurtry
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Reading from a rather messed up collection of facts from a family bible i have found a William Todd died 2nd February 1893, and a Robert McCurley died 16th June 1900. Incidentally i was baptised in Ballysillan pres. church as was my father who is 85 years old and still going strong.
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HI,
There are two Willam Todds who died in the 1st quarter of 1893 in Belfast One born 1811 and one born 1828. Isuspect your William was the one born 1828.
Do you have any record of his wife's death?
If you send me a personal message with your email, I can send you a copy of what we have written up about the Todds of the Ballyeaston area and the Todds of Ireland.
Richard
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I have an Agnes Todd died 26th March 1909 could she have possibly been Williams wife ?(Agnes Robinson).
I have also found Susanna Todd. Christened 1st Ballyeaston pres. church 22nd April 1886.
Jeannette McCurley Todd. Christened 1st Ballyeaston pres. church 13th June 1888
They are my grandmothers sisters.I wonder that if their parents Nathaniel and Sarah were married in Ballysillan pres. why were the children not baptized there as well.
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Hi,
In Ireland it was the custom to get married in the bride's church and thereafter the family attended the husband's church.
Regards
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Thanks Kingskerswell for a quick answer.I live quite close to Ballyeaston and Rashee so in the near future i'll take a drive over there and see if i find out anything else.My grandmother always referred to her parents homeplace as Cogry clachan.
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There is an Agnes Todd died Jan-Mar 1909 born in 1828 and an AGnes Todd d April-Jun 1909 born 1885
This would match the Wm b 1828. You'd have to get that certificate to be sure.
Richard
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Hi all, :)
Hope you all enjoyed the festive season.
For some unknown reason this morning was the 1st time I had been notified of any discussion on this query for a very long time.
I will give a quick run down of my original request.
I am after any info dealing with the marriage of William McCONNELL b abt 1808 and Margaret TODD b abt 1812 at Ballyeastern in 1833. They were both born at Cogry. All this is from a member entry on IGI.
My wife's grt grt grandmother Agnes was their daughter and her death cert confirms them as her parents. Agnes was born in 1840 at Ballyclare. I have a note giving me two older siblings, Margaret bapt 2nd Aug 1834 & Thomas bapt 8th Jan 1839, both at Ballyeastern.
Their daughter Agnes married Michael DUGAN/DUGGAN 19th May1859.
The 1st child's birth cert states they married on the voyage to Australia, but Agnes's Death cert states they married in Ireland.
They came to Australia as part of the Donegal Relief Fund voyages and arrived in May 1859, but I cannot find any record of their immigration.
Can anyone confirm any of this for me or tell where I can do it?.
Cheers
Geoff :-[
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I dont see any Margaret Todd in Cogry in the 1813 Ballyeaston church census but there are two families with young children:
James 55 farmer 1758 Cogry
Margret 53 wife 1760 Cogry
Robert 24 1789 Cogry
Mary Todd 20 1793 Cogry
John 18 1795 Cogry
Margret Magee 13 Niece 1800 Cogry
George 40 farmer 1773 Cogry
Jane 40 wife 1773 Cogry
Andrew 21 1792 Cogry
Nathaniel 19 1794 Cogry
William 17 1796 Cogry
James 16 1797 Cogry
Mary 15 1798 Cogry
Jane 13 1800 Cogry
John 11 1802 Cogry
Cogry
Martha 9 1804 Cogry
Jennet 7 1806 Cogry
Elisabeth 5 1808 Cogry
Robert 3 1810 Cogry
Samuel 1/4 1813 Cogry
Nathan 58 farmer 1755 Cogry
Mary 45 wife 1768 Cogry
Jane Craig 22 1791 Cogry
Nathan 18 1795 Cogry
William 17 1796 Cogry
Sara 13 1800 Cogry
Mary 11 1802 Cogry
Isbel 9 1804 Cogry
Margret 7 1806 Cogry
James 3 1810 Cogry
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Thanks for trying. :-[
Geoff
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Hi Geoff,
Happy New Year to you.
The following link has the Donegal Relief Fund Passenger Lists and also a contact email which may be of use to you in your search.
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~donegal/passlist.htm
Cheers,
Janet.
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Hi Janet,
And a Happy New Year to you & yours as well.
Thank you for the link, but I'm afraid they are still not there.
Either they have just never been recorded as being there, or they lied.
Their 1st child's birth cert gives the name of the priest that has supposed to have married them on the voyage, I'll start looking for him and see if I can connect them that way.
I have not been able to locate a marriage cart as yet, I still have options & will get therm eventually.
It's just one of those long waits.
Cheers
Geoff
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HI John,
I wonder why we can't find the marriage record for William and Agnes Robinson Todd?
Or do you have that information?
What is your interest in the Todds?
Hi Richard
I don't see a marriage for William an Agnes in First Ballyeaston but as kingskerswell said it is most likely they got married in the Brides Church. This could have been local to the Cogry area so could be Ballyclare Presbyterian, Ballylinney Presbyterian, 2nd Ballyeaston Presbyterian or Ballynure Presbyterian. PM me if would like me to search the local church records for you.
I also have a intrest in Todds from Cogry. I am looking for a Andrew Todd born about 1801 who married a Martha Todd, (Todd was her Maiden name as well)born about 1805, in about 1826.
They had three children that i know of Elizabeth in 1826, Mary Jane in 1829 and William George in 1837.
Thanks
John
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I see Andrew b 1792 in Coggry and a Martha b 1804; I see an Andrew b 1807 in Donegore
James 55 farmer 1758 Cogry tombstone 1761-1847
Margret 53 wife 1760 Cogry
Robert 24 1789 Cogry Tombstone 1787-1853
Mary Todd 20 1793 Cogry Tombstone 1795-1860
John 18 1795 Cogry
Margret Magee 13 Niece 1800 Cogry
George 40 farmer 1773 Cogry
Jane 40 wife 1773 Cogry
Andrew 21 1792 Cogry
Nathaniel 19 1794 Cogry Nathaniel? Skilgananban,Ballynure
William 17 1796 Cogry
James 16 1797 Cogry
Mary 15 1798 Cogry
Jane 13 1800 Cogry
John 11 1802 Cogry John? Landlord: Marquis of Donegal, also landlord of James Craig and Eliza Hill and James McClane,
Cogry John Todd, freehold Sheet 45 pos 58 &60
Martha 9 1804 Cogry
Jennet 7 1806 Cogry
Elisabeth 5 1808 Cogry Eliza? Ten of Marquis of Donegal
Robert 3 1810 Cogry Robert? Tenant of Robt McMeekin; tenant of marquis of Donegal Tombstone 1809-1884 wife Bridget 1808-1888
Samuel 1/4 1813 Cogry
Nathan 58 farmer 1755 Cogry
Mary 45 wife 1768 Cogry
Jane Craig 22 1791 Cogry
Nathan 18 1795 Cogry Nathan? Ten of Marquis of Donegal Sheet 45, pos 29
William 17 1796 Cogry William? (6 Williams) : tenant of John Todd; tenant of Marquis of Donegal; ten of John Blair
Wm Todd, ten of Marquis of Donegal Sheet 45 pos 30
Sara 13 1800 Cogry
Mary 11 1802 Cogry
Isbel 9 1804 Cogry
Margret 7 1806 Cogry
James 3 1810 Cogry
Robert 27 1786 Cogry
Elisabeth 18 wife 1795 Cogry
John 22 1791 Cogry
George 71 1742 Cogry
Samuel 40 1773 Cogry
Jennet, 49 wife 1764 Cogry
Jane 16 1797 Cogry
John 14 1799 Cogry John?
Robert 12 1801 Cogry
Jenny 10-3/4 1803 Cogry
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Hi Richard
Thanks I have the information from the 1813 Congregational Census.
Did you get the information from the First Ballyeaston History Book?
I am looking for information on the Children, Elizabeth and Mary Jane.
Todd was and still is a popular name in the Ballyclare area.
John
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Hi John,
Do you have any information on the son? William George waasn't it?
Richard
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I see a William George Todd who had married a Jane Hanley who had a son William Andrew Todd b 1879 Ballyclare.
Would this be your family?
Richard
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John,
If you are looking for the descendants, does that mean you know who Andrew b 1801 is the son of ? and who Marthaa is the daughter of?
Richard
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Hi
William George is my ggggrandfather. I have all the information about his other son James (my line)and some info on William Andrew and Margaret Martha but not many dates.
I don't know Andrew b1801 father or mother but do have info on Martha's father, George Todd and Mother Jane ?.
The family tree is at http://stewart1800.tribalpages.com/tribe/browse?userid=stewart1800&view=9&rand=646837570
Just look for the Todds they should be there.
John
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John,
What a wonderful website display of these families!
Is Martha the Martha b 1805 died 1882 Antrim?
Is Andrew the Andrew b 1804 d 1892 Co Antrim?
Do you have any interest in the DNA study that links your family to the Todds of Ayrshire and the Mary Todd LIncoln Todds of the USA?
Do you have any interest in the Nathaniel Todds who went to the USA and Canada?
If you sent me an email, I'll send you some information?
Richard
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Richard
I had a closer look at you Todd's in America site and you certainly have a lot of information. Some other Todd's from the area had been asking me about our side of the family so I will start to focus more on the Todd side. Your site will certainly help with a few trips to PRONI it think.
You are aware that the original spelling of Todd in the Ballyeaston List is Tod. As a member of First Ballyeaston Presbyterian Church me and my father spent weeks typing the 1813 list for the Church History Book 'His House on the Hill' and are glad to hear how the 1813 list inspired you.
We are currently working on computerising the Marriage records for the Church so I will keep a look out for any Todd's that I think might be of intrest to you and other Todd researchers.
John
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John,
HOw delightful to learn of your work in putting this wonderful information into print!
Here's what I have on the Nathaniel Todds of Ballyalbanagh:
In Ballyalbanagh, there were five Nathaniels, but 4 of them seem to have gone to Dearborn Co IN.
Nathaniel b 1746 living in Ballyalbanagh in 1813
James b 1778 lives next door, wife Isabella b 1784 (went to Dearborn Co IN USA 1829)
Samuel 1805
Nathaniel b 1807 (md Janet MacKey, dau of Andrew MacKey and went to Dearborn
Co IN in 1829
James 1808
John 1810
Robert 1812
Nathaniel b 1786, wife Margaret (went to Dearborn Co IN USA about 1829) Jenny 1809
James 1811w
Elizabeth1813
Prob Nathaniel b 1815
Prob Patrick b 1815
Prob John b 1820 (resides Dearborn Co IN 1850)
Brother md wife b 1753
Nathaniel b 1791 (possibly the Nathaniel who went to Skilnagaban by 1834 and was still there in 1861 and therefore probably the Nathaniel in the death index 1781-1871, prob father of Nathaniel md 1849 Isabella McMullan of Legaloy (near Skilnagaban) who went to Saint Lawrence NY by 1850.
Adam b 1794
Elisa b 1798
Here's what i ahve on the Nathaniels of Coggry
George Todd b 1773 d 1849 md Jane 1773
?John 1791 (poss husband of Eleanor 1791-1876) poss John d 1860 (possexecutor of
will of George 1849)
Andrew 1792 (possibly the Andrew who went to Edwardsburg, Leeds and Grenville,
Ontario an died 1882 (1881 census says aged 85=>b 1796)
Nathaniel b 1794 (prob the Nathaniel 1790-1873 died Edwardsburgh, Leeds and
Grenville, Ontario)
Nathaniel Todd 1819-1885 d Edwardsburgh
Could this be the father of Willam md 1856 Haldimand Co Ont?
William b 1796 prob d 1876
James b 1797 (possibly the James d 1871 widow Mary of Ballyalbanagh)
Mary 1798
Jane 1800
John 1802
Martha 1804
Jennett 1806
Elizabeth 1808
Robert 1810-1884 md Bridget 1808-1888 (per tombstone in Rashee)
Nathaniel 1842-1900
George 1843-1924
Mary 1844-1933
John 1846-1918 d Lee Co IL (no issue, in Lee Co, IL by 1870 md Jane abt
1877)
Samuel 1813
Lastly I have:
(a John Todd – poss one of the John Todds of Coggry - had a son Nathaniel in 1820 who may be the Nathaniel who went to Edwardsburg, Ontario by 1844.)
Also in Coggry:
Nathan Todd b 1755 wife Mary 1768
Nathan b1795
William b 1796
Sara 1800
Mary 1802
Isbel 1804
Margret 1806
James 1810
This would be easier if I could just email it to ou
Richard
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Hi John,
I looked at the website and was delighted to see such a complete tree.
Meanwhile, I looked at the 1911 census and added some branches to the skeleton of the William Todd/Agnes Bobinson Family. Do you have a complete tree of this branch?
William Todd and Agnes Robinson
Nathaniel Tod, born 16 May 1858 in Coggery to William Tod and Agnes Robinson.
other children:
Mary Jane 1849
William John 1851
Susanna 1853
Andrew 1856
Nathaniel Tod, born 16 May 1858 in Coggery to William Tod and Agnes Robinson. Md Sarah
McCurley (per 1911 census)
Susanna 1887
Jeannette 1889
Thomas 1891
William 1893
Robert 1894
Alice 1900
James 1902
Mary 1860
Robert Johnston 1864 md 1885 Antrim (Maggie per 1911 census)
Robert Johnston Todd b 1888? Or Robert b 1893
Samuel Todd b 1897
Archie Todd b 1898
Maggie Todd b 1900
Habert Todd 1903
Harrie Todd 1905
Edward Todd 1907
Hannah Todd 1911
Isabella 1867
Nathaniel was on Albert Terrace in Shallkill in 1911 but listed as born Ballyclare.
Robert is in Ballyclare and listed as born Ballyclare.
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HI Donna,
It is interesting that you indicate that Samuel Todd d 1877 Lancaster Street and there is a John Todd d 1864 who owned property on Lancaster Street and had a son Henry Todd. This John Todd owned property on 29 Lancaster Strret and rented on 31 Lancaster Street.
This John Todd appears to either John Todd 1786-1864, 1810-1864 or 1803-64, but getting the actual death records would show which one was on Lancaster Street.
The son Henry appears in the 1901 census on Little Henry Street which is where John Todd also owned Property.
By any chance does the death record for your Samuel give an exact address on Lancaster Street? It isn't a very long street.
Henry son of John married in 1861 in Belfast to Frances McFarland and has a large family incluindg John 1870 and Henry 1879.
There is a Henry who married in 1911 in Blefast.
Hopoe this helps!
Richard
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John
Many thanks for the transcription work and for the browsable family tree!
I'm a descendent of Robert Montgomery m. Jane/Janet/Jenny (lots of different variants in different records!) Todd 1/5/1857.
If you are interested in filling in the descendants of that part of the family a bit more I can help - you have some but not all of the children and I obviously know several generations beyond that to the present day!
The reasonably recent advent of scanned images from the will calendars on the PRONI website is marvellous - I have been merrily expanding my tree :-)
All the best,
Stephen
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HI Stephen and John,
Do eithr of you or others on Rootschat know about the connection between the Ballyalbanagh Todds and the Todds of Deer Park Glenarm? I understand that the latter are RC and the former Presbyterian but that there was a family connection between them.
Richard McMurtry
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My Todd's are from Ballyalbnah, Ireland as follows:
Father Samuel b. unknown but assume about 1780
His Son: John Sinclair Todd b. 1810 or 1811 baptized at Ballyeaston Church near Ballyalbnagh
John Sinclair Todd’s sibling: Sarah b 1825
John Sinclair married Jane Galt b 1826- d 1892 (I have church record)
They had children:
Mary Jane b 1854 Ballyalbnagh
Walter b 1856 Ballyalbnagh
Hugh b 1857 Ballyalbnagh
Samuel b 1859 Ballyalbanagh
Agnes 1861 Ballyalbnagh
Matilda Rogers b 10 Oct 1863 - Milton, Glasgow, Scotland
I am descended from Agnes Todd( she is my Gr grandmother) so any connections to others who have Todd trees, I'd love to hear from you, as I am a bit of a beginner.
Deb
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My grandmothers maiden name was Todd she was born in Belfast on 17 August 1899 her father was Nathaniel Todd born in Cogry Co.Antrim and died in Belfast on 22nd April 1913. Nathaniel was married to Sarah McCurley died 18th March 1942.They married in 1st Ballyeaston pres. church on the 16th June 1884.
They had seven children.
Susana Todd born 22 April 1886. Cogry,Ballyclare
Jeannette Todd born 13th June 1888 Cogry, Ballyclare
Thomas Todd born 29th April 1890. Ligoniel, Belfast.
William Todd born 7th April 1892. Ligoniel, Belfast
Robert Todd born 1st February 1894 Ligoniel, Belfast
Alice Todd born 17th August 1899 Ligoniel, Belfast. (my grandmother)
James Todd born14th June 1901. Ligoniel Belfast.
rollcaster, I am interested in your grandmother's brother Thomas, who married Ellen Dempsey from Mayfair St. I have been searching for information on this couple for sometime. Would be good to hear from you. VB
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Hi
I don't know if you have read my original message in this thread, but I have in my tree a Margaret TOD/TODD born about 1810 at Cogry, Antrim.
In 1833 she married a William McConnell at Ballyeaston, he was born in the same area.
At the moment I have 3 children to this family, Margaret b1834,baptised 2 Aug 1834, Thomas born c1838 and baptised 9 Jan 1839 and Agnes born c 1840.
Agnes is the child that is of interest for us. she married Michael DUGAN/DUGGAN who was born in Tullaghobegley,Donegal 1832, t6hey married May 1859.
There are conflicting reports about the marriage though, one record says 19th May 1859 on board the ship to Australia, another says they married in Ireland before sailing out.
Could you tell me if any of you have this family noted or post the link to this website that weas mentioned please?
Geoff
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I've read through this thread and it is of interest to me. I'm not sure if there is any connection but I have found a Robert Todd born approx. 1807 who was married to Ann Craig - April 1, 1825 in First Donegore Presbyterian Church. They subsequently immigrated to Prince Edward Island, Canada (I believe it was Ann's family that immigrated as a whole as I have not found any relatives of the husband's in Prince Edward Island. I am primarily researching the Gillespie family but I do go down all the "rabbit holes" so am now looking for Todd's too ;D.
Incidentally, my grandmother was a McConnell from Belfast. She was born in 1901 and came to Canada in 1920. Several of her sisters immigrated to Australia. Her father was William Henry McConnell (b. 1875) and her mother was Sarah Alice Courtney. William's parents were William John McConnell and Margaret McCully.
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It's good to know there are others looking at these families, I will keep your details for contact
If I ever find any connections then I will be in touch.
In fact I will send you a PM to make initial contact with you.
Cheers
Geoff
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ONe of the things I have found most useful in sorting our the Todd families to see which are related to each other and are not was to genetic testing. We analyzed the genetics of Todd families throughout northern Ireland and a few in Scotland and wee able to link them to families in America, Canada, Australia and England.
So I would encourage you to get a DNA sample from a male descendant through the Todd DNA project administered by Cherie Ohlsson and see what you can learn.
Also, could you post the names and birth dates and birthplaces of the children and grandchildren of Robert Todd.
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The line I am researching is not directly related to the Todd line - I am researching Gillespie's. the relationship is through my husbsnd's 3X great grandmother who was a Craig and her sister married Robert Todd. However, I have gone diwn the line s bit and will post what I have found of his descendents in another post
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I have just started looking in detail at the Robert Todd line so I may be missing children/grandchildren but here is what I have to date:
Robert Todd (1807-?) Married 1825 to Ann Craig (1805-?)
James Todd - 1827 Ireland Married Catherine McIntosh (1832-1895)
Phoebe Todd - Apr 23 1852 Prince Edward Island
Ann Jane Todd - Jun 28 1854 Prince Edward Island
Robert John Todd - Jun 8 1855 Prince Edward Island
William Todd - Feb 8 1857 Prince Edward Island
Hannah M Todd - Nov 13 1858 Prince Edward Island
Donald A Todd - Oct 26 1860 Prince Edward Island
Roderick Todd - Oct 27 1862 Prince Edward Island
James Craig Todd - Mar 16 1865 Prince Edward Island
Hannah Margaret Todd - Mar 27 1867 Prince Edward Island
George Duncan Todd - Dec 10 1869 Prince Edward Island
Mary Eliza Todd - Mar 25 1873 Prince Edward Island
Henry Todd - Dec 1874 Prince Edward Island (second wife was Anna Eliza Craig Gillespie - Jun 12 1865 Prince Edward Island - who is a descendent of my Gillespie line. Henry and Eliza were second cousins. they had a son who died at the age of 5 so there are no male Todd descendants from this line that I could ask to take a DNA test)
Sarah Todd - Mar 29 1829 Prince Edward Island
William Todd - 1836 Prince Edward Island married Ann Cameron (1840 Prince Edward Island)
Robert James Todd - Nov 3 1861 Prince Edward Island
John Todd - 1864 Prince Edward Island
Mary Todd - 1867 Prince Edward Island
Daniel Alex Todd - Aug 14 1872 Prince Edward Island
Donald Todd - 1873 Prince Edward Island
Elizabeth Jane Todd - Aug 27 1874 Prince Edward Island
James Albert Todd - Nov 13 1876 Prince Edward Island
William John Todd - Feb 21 1882 Prince Edward Island
Charles A Todd Apr 26 1883 Prince Edward Island
Ann Todd - 1837 Prince Edward Island
Margaret Sarah Todd - 1840 Prince Edward Island
Some of these lines went to Montana and then Washington
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There is a Barbara Todd who married into the family and who lives in Portland Oregon who has a fairly extensive tree on Ancestry.com. She might be interested in helping with the DNA sample, but I don't know her. One of the Todds married a Bill Tourikis who has a daughter Joan who married Carey Eisenbarth. You can find their name and address on White pages.com and contact them or you could try to contact Barbara directly through Ancestry.com Public member trees.
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I have been in contact with Barbara and was going to mention the DNA testing to her.
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That's great. The contact for the DNA is Cherie Ohlsson (which is curious because I think Barbara has Olsson ancestors!). Cherie's email is: (*)
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Hi There, I'm a descendant of Robert Todd and Ann Craig mentioned in this post. Would it be possible to get more information on the Craig History and their trip to Canada? Also, you mentioned James's birth in Ireland, would you have a location?
I've been collecting information from the archives and tombstones too, if you'd like any more details on that Todd line.
By the way, in Springton Cemetery, PE, Robert Todd (1804-1844, aged 44, and several of Robert's children are buried. Of note, is a different Todd/Gillespie tombstone. It has Henry Todd (1867-1926), Hannah Gillespie (1873-1915), and their son, Johnnie Todd (1908-1913) listed on the stone.
Thanks so much!
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The information I have about James' birth being Ireland is from the 1881 Census of Canada and it doesn't have any more detail then that I'm sorry to tell you. I am actually researching the Gillespie line in detail at the moment. The reason the Robert Todd and Ann Craig come into play is because I believe that Hannah Craig who married James Gillespie is Ann's sister. The reason that I believe this is a found a will of Samuel Craig in Prince Edward Island which mentions both of them (as well as a couple of more siblings).
I think this post could get quite involved ;D. Please email me (*) at and we can start comparing notes!
Denise Gillespie
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Hi, Im not sure if there is any connections with my family.
My Family seem to have links to the Todds from Wolfhill, Ligoniel, but we are not yet sure who or how.
My G Grandfather William Smith and his Wife Susanna Smith (Nee Smith/Smyth) from Ligoniel
Children were William, James, Robert, Thomas, Mary Jane, Sarah and Maggie.
For some reason they were also known as Todds i.e My grandfather Thomas Smith was known as Tommy Todd and his Brother Robert Smith was known as Bobby Todd, Bobby lived in 186 Ligoniel Road and was killed in the early 1970's by being hit by a bus.
We were told that My Great Granda William Smith was an orphan, sent from Edinburgh to Legoniel to be brought up by his relatives the Todds. So he was known by Todd and so the surname was passed on to his kids.
Has anyone found any connections between Smith/Todds.
The mystery continues.......
Many thanks.
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You haven't really given any dates but here's a start-
William Smith (c1871-aft.1911) m.(1887) Susanna Smith (c1870-aft.1911)
marriage- https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1887/10815/5944648.pdf
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Shankhill/Wolfhill_Lane/978938 all born Co. Antrim
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Shankill/Wolfhill_Lane/172291 all born Belfast
1. William (c1894-aft.1911)
2. James (c1897-aft.1911)
3. Robert (c1899-aft.1911)
4. Thomas (c1903-aft.1911)
5. Mary Jane (c1906-aft.1911)
6. Child d.20 Oct.1908 aged 1 week https://ssl.belfastcity.gov.uk/burialsearch/BurialRecordDetails.aspx?RecordID=7601.20266
7. ? Sarah
8. ? Maggie
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1918 Belfast directory- http://www.lennonwylie.co.uk/wyzcomplete1918.htm
Wolfhill Lane (off Wolfhill Avenue, Ligoniel)
1.Smith,Wm., labourer
Note: not listed at that address in 1924 directory
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Hi there,
Sorry about not posting DOB, I have most of the marriage, death, birth certificates at home. Apart from Williams smiths birth or death he must of died on or after 1951 that's where my research seems to have stopped, I'm now trying to see if there is any connections to the todds of wolfhill and my relatives the smiths.
Many thanks j
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Sorry forgot to mention, William smith showed on the lenon Wylie directory at 186 Ligoniel road in 1951, that is where I lose track of him.
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Sorry forgot to mention, William smith showed on the lenon Wylie directory at 186 Ligoniel road in 1951, that is where I lose track of him.
1960 directory- 186 Ligoniel- Robert Smith
http://www.lennonwylie.co.uk/Lcomplete1960.htm
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Thanks for that, Robert Smith aka bobby todd, lived at 186 Ligoniel road until the early 70's, he was knocked down and killed by a bus.
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Hi There, I'm a descendant of Robert Todd and Ann Craig mentioned in this post. Would it be possible to get more information on the Craig History and their trip to Canada? Also, you mentioned James's birth in Ireland, would you have a location?
I've been collecting information from the archives and tombstones too, if you'd like any more details on that Todd line.
By the way, in Springton Cemetery, PE, Robert Todd (1804-1844, aged 44, and several of Robert's children are buried. Of note, is a different Todd/Gillespie tombstone. It has Henry Todd (1867-1926), Hannah Gillespie (1873-1915), and their son, Johnnie Todd (1908-1913) listed on the stone.
Thanks so much!
I also am an ancestor of Robert Todd (1807-1844) husband of Anne Craig. He is my 3rd great-grandfather. His son James (1820-1884) married Catherine MacIntosh. Their son, my 2nd great-grandfather Robert James Todd (1856-1933) married Ann MacIntosh. My grandfather was James Robert Todd (1888-1964) married Christena Thomas.
I am looking for additional information on Robert and Ann Craig. I have that Robert was born in Scotland?
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Hi
My interset in Antrim is the McCONNELL & TODD families of Ballyeaston / Ballyclare areas
William McCONNELL born Cogry 1808 married Margaret TODD born Cogry 1812, they married at Ballyeaston in 1833. I take it that Cogry is a hamlet around Ballyeaston.
They had 3 children that I know of:
Margaret b 1834
Thomas b c1835
Agnes b 1841
Somehow Agnes was on a ship contracted to bring immigrants from Donegal to Australia as part of what was known as the Donegal Relief Fund. She Married Michael DUGAN/DUGGAN on the voyage out to Australia,
Anyone know of this family??
Cheers
Geoff
Hello
I know this post is very, very old! But I’m beginning to research my own family tree and came across this.
My maternal grandfather was Hugh Todd, of Doagh, born 1931.
His parents were Hugh Todd and Joanna Twigg.
My grandfather also, I believe, had a sister named Agnes, which I am assuming is a namesake of the above? I think they were 2 of 10 children.
My grandfather was born and bred in the “Fourmileburn” area of Doagh, and very proud of it.
Cogry is about 2 miles out of Doagh. They were known as the Mill Villages.
McConnells pub also still stands in Doagh today however not sure they would be anything in relation to the funeral directors that used to be in a Ballyclare.
They are two very common surnames in the town! So it’s little wonder the roots are hard to pin down ???
Going to keep an eye on this thread. I noticed Rashee mentioned previously! I still live in the area so may be able to offer some assistance there. (Ballyclare, Rashee, Cogry & Doagh are all within walking distance of each other!)
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G'day Ashbas11,
I have been told a family story about my original couple Agnes and Michael. It says that this couple met. and were madly in love, but when their families found out they forbid them to ever see each other again.This led to them eloping and getting on a ship bound for Australia. This sounds like it might be a case of the Orange and the Green to me as that was how bad they looked on this in the days of old and I suppose some still do. One latelythe documents I have says they were married on the 18th May 1859 I think it is, and they were married by father Francis Coffey. Agnes died 22nd Dec 1877 aged 37 years giving her a birth year of 1840 and the cause of death was a malignant disease of the stomach. She was either 18 or 19 when she married it all fits together very nicely. Agnes and Michael had 6 children A4 boys and two girls. They were;
Patrick B 1860-1952, William 1862-1897, John J 1864-1894, Margaret 1867-1957, James 1869-1917, Sarah 1872-1945.
I. have to look into her parents more now after there has been a lot more records released lately.
if I find anything I will post it here Cheers Geoff
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HI Ashbash,
How about if we correspond by email? My email is RMcMurtry at baymoon dot com.
I found a Hugh Todd of Donamoy sp? md 1909 to Annie Twigg pf Doagh and had a daughter Johanna in 1918. They ae in the 1911 census in Ballyhamage, Ballyclare as Hugh aged 26 (born 1885). and son John aged 3.
There is a Hugh Todd in the 1901 census born 1882 son of Hugh Todd (deceased) or possibly David Todd and Rachell McCleery Todd; There is a Hugh Todd b 1880 living in Ballysavage, Donegore living with the brattie family
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Hugh and Annie Twigg their daughter Joanna married Peter de Haro and died in England at a young age her sister married his brother.
Their son John died at a great age unmarried.
ASHBASH if you have the detail to Joanna Twiggs parents that would be lovely....I am descended from Annie Twigg ....my great grande mother was her sister. Also where are your Todds buried.
Regards Steve
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Thanks for clarifyuing that John Todd son of Hugh Todd and Annie Twigg died unmarried. Did I interpret your message correctly that the John you were referring to was John Todd?
Richard
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Vita,
Did you ever find any descendants of Thomas McCurry Todd or his siblings?
Richard McMurtry
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I wanted to reply to a message early on in this thread, but I can't seem to figure out how to do that or it isn't even possible.
I wanted to say to Vita Brevis that I was wondering if you found any descendants of Thomas McCurry Todd or his siblings?
Richard McMurtry
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if you want to include what is in the post you want then hit Quote on that message
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Have you looked on the IRISH GOVT BDM Website for Civil Reg for them?
One can use Filters for Births etc and then choose whatever Decade they want!
All Civil Reg Birth, Marriage and Death results for Todd of Belfast
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Change Surname if needed.
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https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/civil-records/help/what-civil-records-are-on-line
One can Right click on 5 or 6 names, open them in New Tab, then click Image to view Cert. Much quicker!
Any with Returns Page No do not have images presently but will have 'sometime' so one needs to check Link every few months
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For Northern Ireland records stop 1922
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I see some were R.C. and some records have been found so maybe others can disclose which Parish they were found in (unless it is Top Secret!) as no references have been posted for them!