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Title: Nevin / Blackrock
Post by: shanew147 on Friday 05 March 10 08:16 GMT (UK)
A couple of general questions for the Cork experts...

ggg-grandparents of mine married in The Chapel of St. Michael CofI (parish St. Finn Barrs) in Cork in 1854, but I know very little at this stage about the brides side of the family. Her name is Catherine Nevin, residence given as Blackrock, born c1838, and her father Andrew was a gardener. I am guessing that he may have worked in the gardens of a big house or estate in the Blackrock area

The groom Samuel Hodges was a coastguard based at Blackrock station at the time.

I am hoping the the upcoming parish records on IrishGenealogy will cover the area and give me some leads, but in the meantime :

  does anyone know where the Coastguard station was located ?

  were (are) there any big houses or estate nearby that are worth investigating ?



thanks,


Shane
Title: Re: Nevin / Blackrock
Post by: agho on Friday 05 March 10 09:02 GMT (UK)
Shane

have a look at Cork on the Historic Map on the OSI site this is 1837 - 42. I can't see a coast guard station marked but would guess it was around Blackrock Castle. Blackrock was a very affluent suburb in those days with several "Big Houses". You can see them marked on the map. Also check out Lewis's Topographical Dictionary http://www.from-ireland.net/cor/lewis/b/blackrock.htm , he lists the major residents in 1837, all these would have been landed estates where your relatives may have worked.
Title: Re: Nevin / Blackrock
Post by: agho on Friday 05 March 10 09:56 GMT (UK)
take a look at these encumbered estate papers, it would appear that the coast guard station was part of this estate so possibly your relatives worked here?
http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/cork/land/cork-est039.txt
Title: Re: Nevin / Blackrock
Post by: shanew147 on Friday 05 March 10 10:04 GMT (UK)
very interesting thanks..

 '..MAHON, part of Coast-Guard Station, Blackrock Baths, &c'

and the 1856 date mentioned fits in nicely.. definitely a couple of clues there to follow up

The strange thing is that there's no specific mention of the coastguard station on the 1820/40 OSI map, or others I've checked, yet it seems to have been there since the 1830s at least. Unless of course it could have been attached to the Castle and it's lighthouses.

thanks again.


Shane
Title: Re: Nevin / Blackrock
Post by: shanew147 on Friday 05 March 10 10:54 GMT (UK)
I believe I've found something that gives me a location for the coast-guard station. Had another look at the OSI maps and compared these to the (handwritten?) Griffth's dated 1852 and the damaged map for the area of Blackrock town and townland of Mahon, and see site number 2, which is to the west of the townland on the coast, is listed as 'Commr. of Customs/Board of Ordnance/Coast Guard Station, Offices & Garden'.

This gives me a possible location at last for the CG station. I'll now have a look at the tenants nearby and the details in the link you found....

I think it was the Town vs townland of Mahon that was confusing my searches before... only realised the difference when I read through the details you found and looked again at the OSI map for the Castle.


thanks,



Shane
Title: Re: Nevin / Blackrock
Post by: celtic liberty on Saturday 06 March 10 22:20 GMT (UK)
Hi ShaneW,

You are always so helpful to all the Rootschatters I did a bit of research for you today.  I went to the Cork City library -Local studies section where the staff are extremely helpful.  There was a small write up on The Blackrock Coastguard Station in a book called "East to Mahon" by Richard Henchion.
Quote-
Between 1820 and 1860 this occupied the site on the east side of the harbour later known as Undercliffe, although there is evidence to indicate that it was located below Lake View House for some part of the time.  The quay adjoining the station was called Ordnance Quay. 
About 1830's the pay rates of Irish Coast Guard personnel were as follows: A Chief Officer (Naval) had fur shillings per day and a Chief Officer(civilian) had
3s8d &1/4 a Chief Boatman got 2s9d and a 1/4 per day or £9/4/8 p.a. and Boatmen, as well as a commissioned Boatman., got  £4/12/4 p.a.  In 1850 the Commissioners of Customs were leasing the station from the Board of Ordnance.  The property was rated at £20.  The station seems to have been abandoned about 1861."

The area mentioned as Undercliffe appears to be "The Pier" which was also known as Baths Quay.   The other location is at the other side of Blackrock Castle .

In this book there is also a large section about "The Big Houses" in the area
the names listed -

Barnstead - occupied by Francis Woodley Lindsay (d. Nov 1872) landlord was
                     Mary Barrington.

Carrigduv House -  In 1830s/40's it was the home of Richard Notter, JP
Dromcora - built by George Sherlock - Richard Sampson was the Landlord.
Dundanion House -most attractive and most historical house in the townland. -Made famous by Thomas Deane.
Northcliffe- once owned by Joseph Nagle
Rockcliffe - occupied by John Dowman who died 1832
Webbville -various occupiers - Arthur Wm. Webb, Christopher D. Tuthill Villiers,
Wm. R. Coppinger
It gives much more details about each occupier which is very interesting.

I also visited the lovely St. Michaels Church (CofI) and took some photos of the church and graveyards. Couldn't find any headstones for Nevin unfortunately.

If you want me to send you the photos just send me a PM with your email address.

A brilliant website about the Coastguard is www.coastguardsofyesteryear.org
In a subsection there was a link to the Uk Gov with many Hodges listed but not your Samuel but maybe some relations.   
Have a look at http://wwwfrom-ireland.net/cor/lewis/b/blackrock.htm for detailed history of St. Michaels Church.

Hope this helps, sorry I can't enlighten you on the Nevins.

Mary
Title: Re: Nevin / Blackrock
Post by: shanew147 on Saturday 06 March 10 22:36 GMT (UK)
thanks a million for this... it's great to get this information on the location of the Coastguard station as that was causing me a problem. I will certainly follow up on those Blackrock names you found

I knew some Cork expertise would crack this for me!

Tony on the Coastguard of Yesteryear website gave me great assistance on starting off researching the ADM175 records  and following on from that I was able to complete Samuel's service details, up to 1856 when he was pensioned off from from Blackrock in December, on £34 per annum.

I will pm you my email..


Shane
Title: Re: Nevin / Blackrock
Post by: sstrickland47 on Friday 20 August 10 02:03 BST (UK)
I am a descendant of Samuel Hodges and Catherine Nevin. Their son Robert was my gg grandfather. Robert died when my grandfather (Samuel Nevin Hodges, born in County Cavan 1-1-1887) was very small. His older sister was Sophie or Sophia. Robert was married to Johanna Carroll. Johanna Carroll Hodges and her children emigrated to the United States in the early part of the 20th century. I am seeking relatives/ descendants of Samuel and Catherine Nevin Hodges who may know something about Robert and Johanna and can "fill in the blank" pages of our family history. Also seeking info on Johanna Carroll's family.

Shirley
Title: Re: Nevin / Blackrock
Post by: shanew147 on Friday 20 August 10 08:11 BST (UK)
Hi Shirley,

I know of Robert, I believe I have a transcript of his baptism record in Bray Co. Wicklow, but never found a marriage for him. From what I've found so far he is Samuel & Catherine's 3rd child. Samuel was married before to a Sarah (poss Carter), and I've found four children of theirs born between the mid 1830s and about 1842 in south county Dublin.

I'll check what other details I have, and get back to you..

p.s. do you know where Robert and Johanna married ?


Shane
Title: Re: Nevin / Blackrock
Post by: sstrickland47 on Saturday 21 August 10 15:15 BST (UK)
Good morning, Shane,

I'm sorry I do not know more----only that my grandfather(Samuel Nevin Hodges) was born in County Cavan. Not certain where his older sister Sophie was born. My cousin has written for a copy of his birth certificate or record, which we hope will tell us more about his parents, Robert & Johanna.  Johanna's immigration records/ passenger list state she was from Dublin.  But also, I'm unclear as to whether this was her place of residence prior to exiting Ireland or whether this was where she was born. Are you located in Ireland?

Thank you for your willingness to help. Until this week we did not even know the names of my grandfather Samuel's parents.

Shirley
Title: Re: Nevin / Blackrock
Post by: shanew147 on Saturday 21 August 10 15:18 BST (UK)
I have details of Samuel's children, his second marriage and his coastguard service, if any of that is of any interest to you .. let me know

p.s. where in the US are you ?  (I'm in Dublin, Ireland)


Shane
Title: Re: Nevin / Blackrock
Post by: shanew147 on Saturday 21 August 10 15:29 BST (UK)
Here are the details of Robert's baptism from Church of Ireland parish records, in Bray, Co. Wicklow.

 Name : Robert Hodge
 Date: 21-Jan-1863
 Address : Woodbine Cottage (** corrected)
 Father : Samuel Hodge
 Mother : Catherine

No other details are shown on this baptism, but other children born at the same address to Samuel & Catherine, list his occupation as 'Coastguard Pensioner', and slightly later civil records show her maiden surname as Nevin.



Shane
Title: Re: Nevin / Blackrock
Post by: shanew147 on Saturday 21 August 10 16:15 BST (UK)
I located two baptisms for Samuel Nevin Hodges - one Church of Ireland and another as Catholic.

  Name : Samuel Nevin Hodges
  Date : 31 Jan 1886 (*)
  Parish Cavan / Church of Ireland (presumably Cavan Town)
  Address : Railway Cottages
  Father : Robert Hodges
  Occupation : Railway Porter
  Mother Johanna

  Name : Samuel Hodges
  Date : 31 Jan 1887
  Parish : Cavan / RC
  Address : Swellan 
  Father : Robert Hodges
  Mother : Johanna Carroll
  Sponsor : Mrs. Jane O'Brien
  Notes : 'infant 7mnts old, father a protestant. R. Porter'

I think there may be a mistake with the date on the Church of Ireland transcript - as it's before his civil birth date, i.e. Jan-Mar Quarter 1887.

I assume from this that his parents were of mixed religion - presumably the Carrolls were RC, since the Hodges were Church of Ireland.

I haven't found any trace yet of Sophie's birth, or a marriage between Robert and Johanna.


Shane
Title: Re: Nevin / Blackrock
Post by: sstrickland47 on Saturday 21 August 10 23:51 BST (UK)
Shane,

This is wonderful information. We had heard that Robert may have been associated with the railroad. Really wish we knew when he died and the circumstances surrounding his death. Very early in my grandfather's life. Apparently, Johanna did not have the means of caring for the children by herself (or perhaps, according to Irish law the State believed she could not) so the children were placed into an orphanage in the Dublin area which was run by the nuns. We do not know the orphanage. For a time we understood that the children went to England to some of the Hodges relatives ( we think), but my grandfather had to work very hard in the family brickyard and his sister felt it was too hard for a small boy. They returned to Ireland. We believe this was when the children may have become Roman Catholic. Johanna emigrated to the U.S. first and her daughter Sophie joined her when she was 19 and my grandfather Samuel went to sea as a ship's boy when he was 13. We have Sophie's ship's information. They all became residents of New Orleans, Louisiana eventually.  I currently reside in the State of Tennessee, near Chattanooga. My cousin who is working with me on the genealogy project resides in Charleston, South Carolina. But we all grew up in New Orleans.
Which of Samuel & Catherine's children are you a descendant? My cousin has been to Ireland. However, I have only been to England. You've been a great help and I appreciate your efforts very much.

Shirley
Title: Re: Nevin / Blackrock
Post by: shanew147 on Sunday 22 August 10 10:21 BST (UK)
I'm descended from Samuel & Catherine's 2nd child Amelia. She is my gtgt grandmother and was born in 1859 in Woodbine cottage in Bray. Without the marriage cert for Robert and Johanna, it's difficult to be fully certain that we are related to the same Robert Hodges, but his son's middle name does make this sound very likely.

Robert appears to have been a witness at Amelia's marriage - see Marriage of Robert Cathcart and Amelia Hodges - 8 Dec 1882 (http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/c852cd0892681)

Most of Samuel & Catherine's children were born in Bray, but several were born later in North Dublin city. The children I've found for Samuel's first marriage (to Sarah) were all born south county Dublin.

Samuel moved around due to his occupation, so there could be other children I've not yet located. Among the places he served were : Bray, Co. Wicklow, Dalkey Co. Dublin, Lambay Island Co. Dublin, Folkestone Kent (on HMS Pelter), Clogher Head Co. Louth and Blackrock Co Cork - where he married Catherine.

Do you have a estimated year of birth for Sophie ?

I'll have a look to see if I can find anything on Robert.

What years did Johanna, Sophie and Samuel N. move to the US ?


Shane
Title: Re: Nevin / Blackrock
Post by: shanew147 on Sunday 22 August 10 13:11 BST (UK)
You probably already have this, but I've found an Irish born Samuel Hodges c1887 in New Orleans on the US 1920 Federal Census. He is listed as arriving in the US in 1910 and living with his Irish born wife Margaret and two sons Louis and Samuel.

Is this Samuel N. ?



Shane
Title: Re: Nevin / Blackrock
Post by: Sylvia Gamboa on Sunday 22 August 10 16:04 BST (UK)
Hello from Charleston, South Carolina -
I am so grateful to everyone who has shared information about Samuel Hodges and his family.  I was becoming very discouraged in my quest for ancestors until I read the posts on RootsChat.  I am Shirley's cousin.  Samuel Nevin Hodges is our grandfather.  We think Samuel Hodges discussed in the posts is our gg grandfather.  Sophia Hodges, the sister of our grandfather Samuel Nevin Hodges was born in about 1886 somewhere in Ireland.  She immigrated to the US in 1905.  I have no other info on her life before she came to the US. 
Thanks again... Sylvia   
Title: Re: Nevin / Blackrock
Post by: Sylvia Gamboa on Sunday 22 August 10 16:07 BST (UK)
Yes.  That is our grandfather.   I have written to Ireland for his birth certificate.   Sylvia
Title: Re: Nevin / Blackrock
Post by: shanew147 on Sunday 22 August 10 16:09 BST (UK)
Do you know any other first/middle names for Sophia ?

I cant find anything promising for her birth - just wondering if she may have used a middle name later in life, and was registered originally under another first name..


Shane
Title: Re: Nevin / Blackrock
Post by: shanew147 on Sunday 22 August 10 16:12 BST (UK)
Yes.  That is our grandfather.   I have written to Ireland for his birth certificate.   Sylvia

I think the civil birth cert will show much  the same details as the baptism records mentioned earlier. Although they do include the name of the informant to the registrar (usually the mother or father), and may include a slightly more detailed address.

see : Details included on a Birth Cert (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,433041.0.html)



Shane
Title: Re: Nevin / Blackrock
Post by: Sylvia Gamboa on Sunday 22 August 10 16:22 BST (UK)
Thanks, Shane.   The only other info I have on Sophia Hodges is that she married Louis Orduna in 1908 after arriving in the US and evidently settled in New Orleans, Louisiana.  She is in the US census records for 1910 (Chicago, Illinois), 1920 (New Orleans, Louisiana), and 1930 (New Orleans, LA).  She arrived in the US in 1905 on the ship Furnessia.  Maybe Shirley has more info on Sophia. 
Title: Re: Nevin / Blackrock
Post by: shanew147 on Sunday 22 August 10 16:26 BST (UK)
Do you think Sophia was still in Ireland or England for the 1901
census ?

If I can find her on that, it may give a county of birth for her.



Shane
Title: Re: Nevin / Blackrock
Post by: shanew147 on Sunday 22 August 10 17:16 BST (UK)
see attached - a cut down version of the Hodges family tree showing the spouses and primary descendants through Amelia and Robert.


Shane
Title: Re: Nevin / Blackrock
Post by: Sylvia Gamboa on Sunday 22 August 10 21:51 BST (UK)
Wow!  It's so good to see the chart that you made.  I do think Sophia may have been in Ireland for the 1901 census because records indicate she came to the US in 1905.  There is an error on one of my earlier posts.  Sophia married Albert Orduna, not Louis Orduna. 

I'm curious about a date in the chart for Samuel Hodges (husband of Catherine Nevin).  I have a copy of the registration of the death of Samuel Hodges from the  "Ireland Civil Registration Indexes, 1845-1958"  (registration quarter and year Oct-Dec 1884)  His "estimated birth year" is 1794 and the death year is 1884.  Is the estimated birth year wrong?  My information came from FamilySearch.org. 

Questions that remain about my g grandfather Robert are:   When did he marry Johanna Carroll? and When did he die?   Many thanks for your efforts...

Sylvia

Title: Re: Nevin / Blackrock
Post by: shanew147 on Sunday 22 August 10 22:11 BST (UK)
I believe the age on Samuel's death cert is incorrect - it has age 90, when in fact he was 80. The informant is Catherine (she was a nurse), but was quite young when she married him (at the time she was about 16, he was 50) .. so I think possibly she over estimated his age a little when she was registering his death.

His seaman's ticket record (BT33 in the National Archives Kew) confirms his year of birth as 1804. The address on this record matches up perfectly with his coastguard posting at that date (1847) on the ADM175 records i.e. Dalkey station (South Co. Dublin).

I thought I had a photo of Catherine somewhere, but cannot locate it ..  attached is a photo of Amelia Cathcart (nee Hodges), with my dad on her knee. (photo c1932)

No sign that I see of Sophia, Johanna or Samuel on the Irish 1901 census - I'll try the English one tomorrow just in case..

Still no luck with anything for Robert... no sign of any promising marriage or death yet. I assume his name has been mis-transcribed in some way ..


Shane
Title: Re: Nevin / Blackrock
Post by: sstrickland47 on Monday 23 August 10 02:55 BST (UK)
This is the best info I have on SOPHIE HODGES (first name spelled Sophia on ship's passenger list & Ellis Island records. Family children always referred to her as Aunt Sophie.
      Port of Departure:  Londonderry,  Dec. 25, 1904
      Ship:   S.S. Furnessia
      Port of Entry:   Ellis Island, Port of New York,  Jan. 5, 1905
      Age on ship's records:   19 years  (estimated year of birth, 1885)
      Last Residence listed on Ship's record:   Dublin
      Occupation:  servant (In 1901 census she may have resided in someone else's home.)
      Final Destination to be:   New Orleans, LA, her mother's home
      Passage paid by her mother:  Mrs. Louis Brandt (Johanna Carroll Hodges Brandt). This was her first trip to U.S.
      She married Albert Orduna a native of Vera Cruz, Mexico, and had 3 children. She was widowed and died circa the 1940's in New Orleans, I believe.
JOHANNA CARROLL HODGES: Her obituary gives in following:
      Died on April 16, 1932 at the age of 70 in New Orleans. Based on this I assume her date of birth to be between 1861 and 1863. Her age in the 1920 U.S. census is given as 57 with an immigration date of 1914. But I do not think the date of immigration can be right due to her marriage record to Louis Brandt in 1902.. We are uncertain of the date of her arrival in the U.S., but we think she may be the Johanna Hodges who arrived in New Orleans on Sept. 2, 1891. She did remarry. There's a record of her marriage to Louis Brandt on Sept. 24, 1902. This Johanna Hodges alsoshe sailed on the Furnessia  and her familiarity with this ship may have been the reason she booked passage for her daughter on the same ship. She may have entered the country through Castle Garden (New York) and then traveled on to New Orleans. We do not know what she did between her arrival and her marriage to Louis Brandt. We do not believe she worked outside the home after marrying Louis Brandt. He owned a business in the city and they lived very comfortably in a very nice part of town. Sylvia found another Johanna Carroll entry, leaving us to wonder if she made more than one trip to U.S.

SAMUEL NEVIN hODGES: We are not certain of his exact year of immgration. We have seen 1910 and 1916. Since he was a marinere and we know that he sailed for the United Fruit Company during the WWI he no doubt sailed in and out of the Port of New Orleans on more than one oaccasion. He married Margaret Anne McCann from Enniskillen, Ireland in New Orleans on Nov. 20, 1916. We think she may have been the Margaret Anne McCann who traveled to New Orleans in March 13, 1916 to marry him. I believe they were acquainted in Ireland.  And I think she may have sailed out of the Cork area.We are in early stages of researching her family. We know she had a brother Jack. Samuel Nevin became a naturalized citizen on June 20, 1922 in New Orleans.
Samuel and Margaret had 3 sons, Louis Nevin (Sylvia's father), Samuel F., and Patrick (Shirley's father). Margaret died in childbirth on September, 1922, giving birth to another son Robert, who also died.

Please forgive the long response to your questions. Hope this helps.

Shirley


Title: Re: Nevin / Blackrock
Post by: shanew147 on Monday 23 August 10 08:58 BST (UK)
many thanks for the additional information..   It's good to know more about the family, and these additional clues could help with the search.

You are the first actual connection I've made with the Hodges line which is great. I have details of marriages for two sisters of Amelia & Robert, but have not located any current descendants for them.

Susan (born 1873) married Charles Niblock in Dublin. Their children include Douglas and Norman.
Elizabeth (1868) married Duncan Murphy, also in Dublin. He was assistant harbour master in Ardrossan in Scotland. One of their children Hilda Catherine is listed on the 1911 census as a visitor to the Cathcart household.

Catherine Hodges (nee Nevin) is listed on the 1901 census (as Kate) with Robert & Amelia and an extended Cathcart family see - Cathcart family, Northbrook Avenue, Dublin (http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/North_Dock/Northbrook_Avenue/1276618/)


Shane
Title: Re: Nevin / Blackrock
Post by: Sylvia Gamboa on Monday 23 August 10 21:55 BST (UK)
I received a copy of the birth certificate for Samuel Hodges (1887-1958) from Ireland today.  It confirms that Robert Hodges was a "railway porter" and that he and Johanna Carroll lived in Cavan Co.  It lists a town (?) in Cavan Co also --- Swellan. I could not find Swellan in my atlas, but I did find it on Google.  The birth certificate did not give any other information that we did not already have --- unfortunately. 

Sophia came to the US in 1905.  I couldn't find any record of my grandfather's entry into the US, but he was naturalized in 1922.  One US census lists his immigration date as 1910.

Johanna Carroll has the following dates listed on her tombstone - 1862-1940.  On various documents (US census) I find her birth dates as 1868, 1869, and 1870.  I also find 2 entries into the US for Johanna Hodges  -- 1890 and 1891.  That must mean that Robert died some time between 1887 and 1891.   

Thanks for posting the photo.  I'm trying to find a picture of Samuel Hodges, Robert's son, to post.

Sylvia
Title: Re: Nevin / Blackrock
Post by: sstrickland47 on Monday 23 August 10 22:19 BST (UK)
Among our Samuel Nevin Hodges stories there is one episode that places him as a young boy in Baldoyle, which we know today is part of the greater Dublin area. It is unclear if this was a residence prior to the death of his father Robert or after his father's death. In fact, we originally believed he was born in Baldoyle which we now know is not the case.  But, perhaps, it is a clue to where to look for death records related to Robert

Also, our uncle, Samuel F. Hodges (brother to Louis and Patrick, son of Samuel Nevin) visited one of his father's relatives in England during the WW II,who was referred to as Aunt Jane (last name possibly Glover---or maybe the Jane O'Brien referenced in the baptism record for Samuel Nevin Hodges).  She could have been a great aunt. Don't know more than this.  Are you aware of a Jane within the Hodges  or Nevin families?

We are certainly encouraged with the information you have been able to assist with.

Shirley
Title: Re: Nevin / Blackrock
Post by: shanew147 on Tuesday 24 August 10 08:08 BST (UK)
Swellen is a townland in Co. Cavan - It's located just to the west of  Cavan town, and close to a Lough of the same name.  See this link to the old maps on the Ordnance Survey of Ireland - Swellen upr/lwr (http://maps.osi.ie/publicviewer/#V1,640856,804953,5) press 8, or click on the 25" historic option to the right , to see the c1890s map.

The map also shows the railway station, goods & engine sheds etc, just to the east of Swellen, and to the north west of Cavan town.

The maps also show a location named Swellan Cottage, close to the Railway - which could possibly be the railway cottages mentioned on the baptism records - see Swellan Cottage (http://maps.osi.ie/publicviewer/#V1,641344,804859,7)  (press 8 to see the correct map)

A townland is the smallest division of land in Ireland, so going from largest down - we have county, civil parish, townland. Townlands were of varying sizes between just a few acres and a several hundred. Swellen consists of two sections - upper and lower (adjacent to each other), the former is of 248 acres, the later 107.

I am certainly familiar with Baldoyle - it's located near to Howth peninsula, and just north of Dublin City . In the late 1870s, up until Samuel's death he and Catherine lived in Clontarf, which is not far from Baldoyle.




Shane
Title: Re: Nevin / Blackrock
Post by: Sylvia Gamboa on Monday 30 August 10 00:28 BST (UK)
Shane,

Here are pictures of Samuel Nevin Hodges (1887-1958) and 1 of his sons, Louis Nevin Hodges (my dad).  The photo of Samuel Hodges is from about 1956 or '57.  In this post I'm sending the photos of Samuel and Louis.  I'm sending the picture of Patrick Hodges (Shirley's dad) in the next post.   The photos of the 2 sons are from the  1940s (WW II).   Do you see any family resemblances?   

Sylvia
Title: Re: Nevin / Blackrock
Post by: Sylvia Gamboa on Monday 30 August 10 00:29 BST (UK)
Here's the picture of Patrick Hodges, Shirley's father.

Sylvia
Title: Re: Nevin / Blackrock
Post by: shanew147 on Monday 30 August 10 08:59 BST (UK)
thanks for photos..

I've found no sign of Sophie's birth or Robert & Johanna's marriage yet, but haven't given up



Shane
Title: Re: Nevin / Blackrock
Post by: sstrickland47 on Monday 30 August 10 23:23 BST (UK)
Shane,

It was interesting to hear you mention that Catherine Nevin was a "nurse" or "midwife".
I am very certain that I heard my father mention many years ago that he thought that Sophie was a midwife---or at least she practiced that in New Orleans. I'm wondering whether she learned that trade in Ireland and, perhaps, maybe even from her own grandmother. We know there was a period when she and Samuel Nevin were with some of their Hodges relatives after the death of their father Robert.

Just a thought.

Shirley
Title: Re: Nevin / Blackrock
Post by: Sylvia Gamboa on Friday 03 September 10 17:56 BST (UK)
Shane, do you know anything about the parents of Samuel Hodges (1804-1884)?  I have found a John Hodges, glass maker,  (b. c. 1834 in Bristol, Somerset, England) married to Catherine Fox (b. c. 1839 in Ireland). They have a son named Samuel (b. c. 1869), but the dates do not match the dates we have for our relatives.   I wonder if this family may be distantly related.  I found the information above in the 1881 UK census.     Sylvia
Title: Re: Nevin / Blackrock
Post by: shanew147 on Friday 03 September 10 18:25 BST (UK)
That could be connected ok - all I know about Samuel's parents are based on the details given on his 2nd marriage in 1854 :

 father's name : John Hodges
 occupation : Glassmaker

There's no indication on either the civil or church record of whether John was alive at this stage or not. I've followed up a few Hodges lines - not sure if this was one of them. When I last checked into this I found that the surname and occupation are quite common around Bristol.

That John & Samuel you found could be easily be connected. I'll have a look for them on the 1881. A location would help establish a parish - which could be a start to see where any records might be online to start tracking back to our Hodges.




Shane
Title: Re: Nevin / Blackrock
Post by: shanew147 on Friday 03 September 10 19:19 BST (UK)
Shane, do you know anything about the parents of Samuel Hodges (1804-1884)?  I have found a John Hodges, glass maker,  (b. c. 1834 in Bristol, Somerset, England) married to Catherine Fox (b. c. 1839 in Ireland). They have a son named Samuel (b. c. 1869), but the dates do not match the dates we have for our relatives.   I wonder if this family may be distantly related.  I found the information above in the 1881 UK census.     Sylvia

I found the birth details for Samuel and two sisters in the extracted record on familysearch, all seem to be born around Dublin :

 Name: Samuel Hodges
 Birthplace: Dublin, Ireland
 Birth Date: 03 May 1869
 Reference Number: v 7-2 p 591

 Name: Anne Hodges
 Birth Date: 15 Aug 1871
 Birthplace: Dublin, Ireland

 Name: Mary Catherine Hodges
 Birth Date: 26 Jul 1865
 Birthplace: 0532, Dublin

parent on all are : John Hodges - Catherine Fox.
I will follow these up to see what else I can find..

Did you find a possible marriage for John & Catherine on freebmd ?
I think I will chance a cert from GRO UK to see is his father was also named John and a glassmaker.


Shane
Title: Re: Nevin / Blackrock
Post by: shanew147 on Friday 03 September 10 19:26 BST (UK)
Found the marriage ... it was in Dublin :

 Groom's Name: John Hodges
 Bride's Name: Catherine Fox
 Marriage Date: 09 Mar 1857
 Marriage Place: Dublin
 Groom's Father's Name: John Hodges
 Bride's Father's Name: William Fox
 Groom's Marital Status: Single
 Bride's Marital Status: Single
 Reference Number: 190

father's name is John .. so definitely that's a cert to add to my todo list!


Shane
Title: Re: Nevin / Blackrock
Post by: Sylvia Gamboa on Friday 03 September 10 19:41 BST (UK)
That's great because I didn't have any additional information.     Sylvia
Title: Re: Nevin / Blackrock
Post by: Johnm7 on Wednesday 16 March 16 10:35 GMT (UK)
Hi Shane,

The Coastguard station is sited on the grounds of Cork Boat Club, a rowing club, located at Undercliffe, Blackrock Village, Cork.  A map of the area can be found on the club’s website:                 
www.corkboatclub.com (http://www.corkboatclub.com).  The Coastguard building was refurbished in 2015 and before and after photographs are in a recent club Newsletter:
http://www.corkboatclub.com/images/newsletterfeb2016.pdf (http://www.corkboatclub.com/images/newsletterfeb2016.pdf)
The clubhouse and Coastguard station adjoin each other and a photograph of both is on the last page of this Newsletter.  The club intends to publish a book of its history and information relating to the Coastguard station would be appreciated.   Details can be forwarded to secretary@corkboatclub.com.

Best of luck with your research.

Regards,

John