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Title: William "Billy or Kingfisher O' the North" Melton
Post by: Bullamore on Thursday 11 March 10 16:26 GMT (UK)
Hi, Looking for info on William "Billy or Kingfisher O' the North" Melton bn 18 Dec 1863 in Scarborough. Between 1881 and 1923 he was a Deep Sea Fisherman. Died June 1942 Tynemouth. At some time he went to prison for Manslaughter. He apparently tried to take his boat out of the harbour, while under the influence of alcohol, and alone, when he ran over a rowing boat containing three men, all of whom died. I haven't got a wife for William or siblings. I do believe that he was made a "Skipper" at the age of 19? Regards Bullamore
Title: Re: William "Billy or Kingfisher O' the North" Melton
Post by: lizdb on Thursday 11 March 10 16:34 GMT (UK)
1871
RG10 4816  81 38

31 and a half (yes, that is what it says) North Street Scarborough

Thomas Melton 33 labourer bn Scarb.
Eliza 34 bn Everley? ??
Mary J 13
Thornton 11
Thomas 9
William 7
Maria 5
Elizabeth 3
Robert 6 mths     children bn Scarb.
Title: Re: William "Billy or Kingfisher O' the North" Melton
Post by: lizdb on Thursday 11 March 10 16:37 GMT (UK)
But 1881 he is a servant (no mention of deep sea fishing)

I guess you have it as 1881 is free to search

RG11 4731 124 7

Cant see him in 1891 - must be off fishing!
Title: Re: William "Billy or Kingfisher O' the North" Melton
Post by: gortonboy on Thursday 11 March 10 16:39 GMT (UK)
1901 census----  Linnet Steamer Trawler 
 
RG13      Piece: 4799      Folio:  150      Page:  0           
 
MELTON, William Master Married  M 37 1864 Master
 Scarbro
Yorkshire


 
 
Title: Re: William "Billy or Kingfisher O' the North" Melton
Post by: Pels. on Monday 15 March 10 21:50 GMT (UK)



You will most likely have seen this marriage on FreeBMD Bullamore. I may be way off track with this, but no harm in saying !  :)

Marriage Sept qtr 1886
William Melton       
Charlotte Monkman    
Scarbro', Vol 9d, page 472

Kindest regards,

Pels.
Title: Re: William "Billy or Kingfisher O' the North" Melton
Post by: Pels. on Monday 15 March 10 21:52 GMT (UK)



Could this be a possibility for Charlotte, married .. but with no husband at home. Living in Tynemouth.

1901 census:
RG13/4803, Folio 130, Page 5.

Northumberland, Tynemouth
26, Cobourg Street,

Charlotte Melton, wife, mar, 34, b. Yks, Scarborough
Constance R, dau, 12, b. Yks, Scarborough
Edith E, dau, 10, b. Yks Scarborough
Beatrice E, dau, 7, b. Ireland
Title: Re: William "Billy or Kingfisher O' the North" Melton
Post by: Pels. on Monday 15 March 10 21:55 GMT (UK)




The eldest daughter of Charlotte Melton from the above census, staying with her grandmother in 1891 :

1891 census:
RG12/3712, Folio 84, Page 34

Yorkshire, Headingley cum Burley
33, Harold Avenue,

Harriet E Monkman, h, mar, 57, Laundress, b. America, Montreal, British Subject
Thos B, son unm, 24, Shoemaker, Yorkshire, Scarbro
Hy Pexton, son-in-law, mar, 28, Joiner, b. Scarbro
Mary B, dau, mar, 33, b. Scarbro
Ethel B V, grand-dau, 3, b. Scarbro
Constance R Melton, grand-dau, 2, b. Scarbro
Title: Re: William "Billy or Kingfisher O' the North" Melton
Post by: Pels. on Monday 15 March 10 22:25 GMT (UK)




I was hoping to make a link between Charlotte Melton and your William in 1891 by way of family connections, but struggling to find the whereabouts of Charlotte and baby Edith E in 1891 ?

Birth, Jun qtr 1890 
Edith Emily Melton        
Scarbro', Vol 9d, page 358
Title: Re: William "Billy or Kingfisher O' the North" Melton
Post by: Doc M on Saturday 03 September 11 22:57 BST (UK)
Thomas Melton 33 labourer bn Scarb.
Eliza 34 bn Everley? ??

It's Everley, Hackness, nr Scarborough.
Title: Re: William "Billy or Kingfisher O' the North" Melton
Post by: Doc M on Saturday 03 September 11 23:07 BST (UK)
I'm interested in Billy's brother Thornton. He married my great-grandmother Sarah Jane Nichols in 1881, but they split up before 1891, and she went to Hull as a fish-gutter. There, she moved in with John Thomas Todd. They had several children (including my grandfather), some of whom, cheekily, had Melton as a middle name, then she married him (bigamously – she claimed to be a widow) in Scarborough in October 1905. Thornton died either in 1906 in Scarborough or 1930 in Sheffield. The problem is, there are 2 Thornton Meltons of about the same age – my Thornton is Billy's brother, the son of Thomas and Eliza, but there's another one, the son of David and another Elizabeth. (Sarah's illegal second 'husband' died in 1924, and she died in 1933.) I can't sort out which died when.
Title: Re: William "Billy or Kingfisher O' the North" Melton
Post by: Pels. on Saturday 03 September 11 23:17 BST (UK)




Hi Doc M,

Bullamore hasn't been online since June.

It might be worth your while to send him a Private Message (PM) if he doesn't get back to you. We can't always rely on the email notification's getting through for threads such as this.

You can send him a message by clicking on the small green scroll (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/Themes/history/images/im_off.gif) under his username, on the initial post.

Good luck, :) :)

Pels.
Title: Re: William "Billy or Kingfisher O' the North" Melton
Post by: Doc M on Saturday 03 September 11 23:44 BST (UK)
Thanks! I've only just discovered this connection, and am intrigued. My grandfather had Melton as his middle name, and we'd been trying to find out where it came from. It was a bit of an eye-opener that it was his mother's legal husband's name, and that he and all his siblings were illegitimate! She had always projected an image of stiff respectability and as far as we had always understood, was married to my great-grandfather. We had known nothing of a previous marriage, let alone that she had got away with bigamy!
Title: Re: William "Billy or Kingfisher O' the North" Melton
Post by: Pels. on Saturday 03 September 11 23:52 BST (UK)




I've sent Bullamore a message enclosing the links from this thread and the previous one of his you replied to. In an ideal world, this should work !!

Fingers crossed,

Pels. :)