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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Buckinghamshire => Topic started by: James - Cornwall on Saturday 13 March 10 23:30 GMT (UK)
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I am researching BRENCH ancestors from the SLOUGH area, but am having difficulties tracking down records of their births/marriages.
Florence Kate Brench was born in 1906 - I have her birth certificate - which lists her parents as William BRENCH and Minnie (nee IVES)
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William Brench was born in Rugby, but his family originated from Buckinghamshire.
That is all I know at the moment - if anyone can help add some meat to the bones, I'd be very grateful, as this is one of my families that I know least about.
Many thanks!
James
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hi,,looking at the census for 1871,,it seems william is the son of john and mary brench
1871 census---- West Street Lagoe Place, Rugby
RG10 Piece: 3184 Folio: 79 Page: 36
BRENCH, John Head M 43 1828 Buckinghamshire
BRENCH, Mary Wife F 43 1828 Leicestershire
BRENCH, John Son M 12 1859 Warwickshire
BRENCH, William Son M 7 1864 Warwickshire
BRENCH, Arthur Son M 5 1866 Warwickshire
BRENCH, Mary Ann Daughter F 2 1869 Warwickshire
MEAD, William Servant M 26 1845 Warwickshire
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Births Sep 1864
BRENCH William Rugby 6d 433
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i see in the 1881 ,,john is married to a hannah,,,are hannah and mary the same person ? they are both born in liecestershire ? a tad confusing ;)
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Marriages Dec 1855
BRENCH John Rugby 6d 610
WEBB Hannah Rugby 6d 610
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Hey ... you are a quick worker!!! Your replies are coming in quicker than I can type !!!!
I shall modify my initial message in the light of the information you have provided - thank you !!!!
Very interested to find that the Brench family had lived in Rugby - that came as a real surprise, yet had originated back in Bucks! The Hannah /Mary question is an interesting one - wonder if he married twice.
If you should find out anything about Minnie Ives' family - I'd be keen to find out about them too!!
Thanks again for your help - you're a star!!!
James
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minnies parents marriage reference
Marriages Sep 1870
ALLEN Ann Thame 3a 831
IVES Enos Thame 3a 831
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BRILLIANT!!! Thank you so much!!
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hi
i have the brench family of iver buckinghamshire in my family tree, in a settlement book that i have it states that the brench's moved from ascot in 1800 to iver.
i have;
john born 1800 langley marish.
james born 1831 iver
john born 1833 iver
henry born 1835 iver married emma larner( my line)
joseph born 1837 iver
ann born 1841 iver
william born 1843 iver
thomas born 1847 iver
george born 1850 iver.
don't know if any of the above is of any help to you but it might give you a lead in your search.
sue
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Sue - thank you so much for that information.
Interested to hear that you are descended from Henry Brench - feel free to pvt message me - I'd be interested to learn more about your side of the family.
Thanks again
James
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Hey, I was only talking to my parents today about our Romany gypsy ancestor's & my great grandmother was called Minnie Brench & her daughter my grandmother was called Minnie too & originally when they came to Slough they lived in mansion lane site
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Hi Lisa,
Welcome to RootsChat.
James has been notified of your reply hope to see him soon :)
Regards
Sarah
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Minnie Ives was baptised 6 Oct 1878 @ Towersey, Bucks. to Enos & Ann.
2nd Marriage.
Enos Ives(1821 Towersey, aged 49(Widower)) married Ann Allen(aged 20), 16th July 1870 @ Toweresy. Son of Benjamin Ives, Ann, daughter of Thomas Allen.
1st Marriage. 25 Oct 1843@Towersey.
Enos(x)IVES, aged Fa, Bachelor of Towersey, Labourer son of Benjamin Ives, Labourer.
Mary(x)DOVER, aged Fa, Spinster of Towersey. (Died May 1869. Buried-14 May 1869, aged 46.@ Towersey).
Burial - 24 Feb 1902. Enos IVES aged 79 of Towersey
Enos Ives was baptised 13 Jul 1821, son of Benjamin & Elizabeth Ives, @ Towersey.
Marriage. 18 Oct 1814.@ Towersey..
Benjamin Ives(of Towersey)
Elizabeth King(of Thame).
Witnesses- John Allnutt, Richd Collins. by Banns.
Baptism - 22 Mar 1789 Benjamin son of Benjn & Sarah IVES @ Towersey.
Marriage-1 Apr 1782.@ Towersey.
Benjamin IVES of the parish,
Sarah LOOSELEY of the parish. Witnesses-Moses Jackman, John Tipson. By Banns.
Baptism. 6 Dec 1761 Benjamin son of Ralph & Jane IVES, @ Radnage.
Marriage-13 Dec 1759. @Radnage.
Ralph IVES, Bachelor of this parish
Jane GIBBS, Spinster of this parish
Witnesses - Abraham Butler, Mary Burnham. by Banns.
Baptism - 15 Aug 1736 Ralph son of Tho & Sarah IVES, @ Stokenchurch.
Marriage – 14 Oct 1717. @ Stokenchurch.
Thomas Ives to Sarah Randall.
BUT, please be aware that there is this marriage @ Toweresy.
15 Dec 1895@Towersey.
Charles WOODBRIDGE, aged 21, Bachelor of Towersey, Labourer son of James Woodbridge, Labourer
Minnie IVES, aged 19, Spinster of Towersey, Servant daughter of Enos Ives, Labourer
Steve. :)
Information from OxFHS Parish Transcripts & BucksFHS Parish Transcripts.
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Hi Lisa. I don't know much about my great grandmother, but I was told her name was Brench and that she was a Romany gypsy who lived in Stoke Gardens in Slough. Do you think she could be related to Minnie? I know "my" Brenches owned a lot of property in or around Stoke Gardens. Her daughter, my grandmother, was called Louisa.
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Following on from my previous post, I've been doing some research into my grandmother, Louise Sutton (nee Brench) and have come up with the following. I think most is correct, although of course errors could occur! However, if it is not too long-winded, I hope it helps! See below:
(NOTE: some details may be incorrect, for example some couples may not have married, dates may be wrong, etc. Further investigations are needed to corroborate these details)
Louise Sutton’s (nee Brench) mother was Minnie Brench (nee Ives, but unsure if she was actually married), born in Towersey, Buckinghamshire in 1879, died in 1950.
She also married again later to John H Devonshire in 1943. He died in 1958.
It looks as if Minnie had also been married prior to marrying (or living with) William Brench, to Charles Woodbridge, on 15 December 1895 in Towersey, Buckinghamshire. She was 19 (possibly lied about her age as by my reckoning she would only have been 16?) and he was 21.
Minnie's parents were Enos Ives, 1823-1902, and Ann Sarah Ives (nee Allen), 1852-?? It appears that they had at least 10 children and it was Enos’ second marriage after his first wife, Mary, died aged 46.
Ann Sarah Ives’ parents were Thomas Allen, 1807-?? and Ann Allen (nee Acres), 1810-??
Enos Ives’ parents were Benjamin Ives (A), 1789-??, and Elizabeth Ives (nee King), no date of birth as yet.
Benjamin Ives’ (A) parents were Benjamin Ives (B), 1761-??, and Sarah Ives (Looseley), date of birth unknown.
Benjamin Ives’ (B) parents were Ralph Ives, 1736-??, and Jane Ives (nee Gibbs), date of birth unknown.
Ralph Ives’ parents were Thomas Ives, no date of birth known, and Sarah Ives (nee Randall), no date of birth known.
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Louise Sutton’s father was William Brench, 1864-1936. His parents were John Brench (1)1831-1877, and Hannah Brench (2) (nee Webb) 1830-??
John Brench’s (1) parents were John Breach (3) (maybe misspelled?), 1800-?? and Elizabeth Breach (4) (nee Hawes), 1803-??
¥¥ Hannah’s (2) (nee Webb) parents were Andrew Webb, 1795-1871, and Elizabeth Webb (nee Dewitt), 1799-1854.
John Breach’s (3) parents were John Breach, 1777-?? and Elizabeth Breach (nee Flegler), 1777-??
Elizabeth’s (4) (nee Hawes) parents were James Hawes, 1777-?? and Ann ???
***The Brench children (of William and Minnie) listed in 1911 Census, were William (1898), Alfred (1900), Edward (1904), Nellie (1906), Florence (1908) and Louise (1910). There was at least one more child not listed in 1910, and she was named Minnie, (born 1917). Also, I believe there was a Robert, Jack (John?) and Edie (I think her birth name was Jean)***
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¥¥ Following on Hannah Webb’s (2) family line (parents were Andrew and Elizabeth Webb - see details above).
Andrew Webb’s parents were Andrew Webb (5), 1765-?, and Ann Webb (nee Bullock), 1769-?
Andrew Webb’s (5) parents were Thomas Webb, no birth date as yet, and Elizabeth Webb (nee Curtis), no birth date as yet.
Elizabeth Webb’s (nee Dewitt) parents were Robert Dewitt, 1765-1819, and Elizabeth Dewitt (nee Wilden), 1769-1811.
Robert Dewitt’s parents were Moses Dewet (note different spelling), 1721-1810, and Ann Dewet (no maiden name yet), 1725-1789.
No further information on Elizabeth Dewitt’s (nee Wilden) family yet.
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hi
my Grandad was Robert Brench from Slough his mother was called Minnie but i do not know his fathers name - i have also recently found out some more brench history: Joseph William Brench married to Jessie Ada Brench who had four children: Joseph, Elizabeth May, Jessie Susannah & Rose Emily - not sure if they are all connected???
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Hi
I have been researching my Brench family for a few years.
My Father was son of Alfred Brench (son of William and Minnie).
I see a lot of info above which confirms some of my findings.
In army records a Charles Woodbridge married to Minnie Ives died in S Africa during the Boer war 1901 from disease. This seems to confirm why he is not found in UK records with Minnie.
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Hi James,
This member has been reading the replies but sadly he has not replied to some of the replies that they have yet.
Welcome to RootsChat
Regards
Sarah