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Title: New lap top
Post by: Abiam2 on Monday 15 March 10 13:35 GMT (UK)
I have a new lap top and my Scrabble 2003 will not install.  I suppose it is not compatible with Windows 7 and I will have to buy again?
Does anyone know?
Thank, Abiam2
Title: Re: New lap top
Post by: Alan b on Monday 15 March 10 20:19 GMT (UK)
Try it in compatibility mode.
Title: Re: New lap top
Post by: Abiam2 on Monday 15 March 10 20:35 GMT (UK)
You,ll have to excuse my ignorance but how do I do that?
Title: Re: New lap top
Post by: Silent Whale on Monday 15 March 10 20:55 GMT (UK)
If you have an icon on your desktop for Scabble then right click - then properties - this will give you an information box. One button will be marked 'find target' - left click and it will open the folder with the .exe file.

Then right-click on the .exe file - choose 'Properties', then 'Compatibility'. Check the box that says "Run this program in compatibility mode for: ***** " and choose an older version of Windows from the drop-down. Your options should go all the way back to Windows 95.

There is a patch here:  Ubi Soft website (http://ubisoft-en.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/ubisoft_en.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=9754&p_created=1087379729&p_sid=6izgwXWj&p_accessibility=0&p_redirect=&p_srch=1&p_lva=&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPTEmcF9zb3J0X2J5PSZwX2dyaWRzb3J0PSZwX3Jvd19jbnQ9MSwxJnBfcHJvZHM9ODgsMzU4JnBfY2F0cz0xMTc4JnBfcHY9Mi4zNTgmcF9jdj0xLjExNzgmcF9zZWFyY2hfdHlwZT1hbnN3ZXJzLnNlYXJjaF9ubCZwX3BhZ2U9MQ!!&p_li=&p_topview=1) but it was published in August 2009 so probably not for Windoze 7 but may work as its not a million miles away from Vista.
Title: Re: New lap top
Post by: Abiam2 on Monday 15 March 10 20:58 GMT (UK)
Thank you.
 Will try that when I've downloaded it again.  I seem to be finding more and more stuff is not working with W 7
Abiam2
Title: Re: New lap top
Post by: Silent Whale on Monday 15 March 10 21:08 GMT (UK)
One of the big problems with Vista was compatibility.

People have wrongly assumed that all these have been sorted for W7 - not so it runs on basically the same engine - if you go straight from XP to W7 you get the same problems as people had with going from XP to Vista.

If you'd ironed out your programs with Vista you shouldn't get so many problems with W7 (allegedly).

Of course cynics would say that it is all just a rouse to get you to buy updated software but I couldn't possibly say that. You may well end up doing this - or play scrabble on Facebook!!!!!!!
Title: Re: New lap top
Post by: Abiam2 on Monday 15 March 10 21:14 GMT (UK)
Love your avatar.  Feel just like that!  I had XP and was offered a new cheap Vista but wouldn't take it because of all the problems people had with it.  Maybe I should have and I could afford all the new software!
Title: Re: New lap top
Post by: Gadget on Monday 15 March 10 22:19 GMT (UK)
Hi Abiam  :)

What version of Window do you have. You need Window Professional or above to get the  compatibility option. If you have home Premium, it's not included  :-\

Not sure of the solution but I think Falkyrn is the knowledgeable one on this - I'll PM him with a link to this thread in case he's missed it  :)


Gadget
Title: Re: New lap top
Post by: RJ_Paton on Monday 15 March 10 23:24 GMT (UK)
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What version of Window do you have. You need Window Professional or above to get the  compatibility option. If you have home Premium, it's not included

Compatibility mode is part of Home Premium - Pro and above have the Virtual XP mode which is different.

To run a program as administrator and in compatibilty mode ... right click on "Computer" select Open

Right click  the drive with your installation disk and again select open

Locate the setup or installation program and right click on this. Select properties ..... a tabbed window then opens up select Compatibility and select your settings for the program.

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Not sure of the solution but I think Falkyrn is the knowledgeable one on this

 ::)
Title: Re: New lap top
Post by: Gadget on Monday 15 March 10 23:39 GMT (UK)


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Not sure of the solution but I think Falkyrn is the knowledgeable one on this

 ::)

See  :D

The Dell chart told me that I had to have prof or above to get compatibility with my XP programs!
Title: Re: New lap top
Post by: Abiam2 on Tuesday 16 March 10 06:10 GMT (UK)
Good morning,
I have followed Falkryn's instructions choosing Windows XP (Service Pack 3) also tried 2 but the same message comes up - Scrabble has stopped working will notify if we find an answer.

And now my TV has gone 'red all over' reminds me somewhat of the beginning of my year,
Abiam
Title: Re: New lap top
Post by: RJ_Paton on Tuesday 16 March 10 10:10 GMT (UK)
Very strange ... I've just tested an older version of scrabble although it failed to install I found that I could get it to run directly from the CD by making the Scrabble program itself compatible with Windows XP2 and running as administrator.
Title: Re: New lap top
Post by: Abiam2 on Tuesday 16 March 10 10:20 GMT (UK)
I have also discovered that my Epson scanner which was working before the new comp is missing a driver and there is not one available.  So although it is sitting there with its little green light it cannot work!

The TV has improved with a jiggle of the Scart lead.
Title: Re: New lap top
Post by: Jolyon on Tuesday 16 March 10 19:50 GMT (UK)
Hi Abiam,

I bought a new desk top Dec'09 with Win 7 installed then had problem printing & scanning with my [little more 2year old] Epson 'all in one'.
Epson's answer - my 'all in one' not compatible with Win7 (though later versions are).     Their solution - delete content of Temp file to resolve printer, but a roundabout less than satisfactory solution to the scanning.

From what I read it seem's there are quite a few software compatibility problems with Vista and Win 7.  I'm not sure where the blame lies but I'm not best pleased. 

Jo

Title: Re: New lap top
Post by: Abiam2 on Tuesday 16 March 10 20:10 GMT (UK)
Me too! Here is my list:

Fine pix
scrabble
Scanner
Adobe

And I expect there will be more'
Abiam2
Title: Re: New lap top
Post by: RJ_Paton on Tuesday 16 March 10 21:41 GMT (UK)
Finepix - an update can be downloaded from the Fuji global site at
http://www.fujifilm.com/products/digital/download/02/index.html#windows5.3

Scrabble - try the administrator/compatibility on the actual program rather than the installation/setup file.

Scanner - which model ?

Adobe - which adobe product ?, there are quite a few.
Title: Re: New lap top
Post by: les_looking on Tuesday 16 March 10 22:25 GMT (UK)
I have also discovered that my Epson scanner which was working before the new comp is missing a driver and there is not one available.  So although it is sitting there with its little green light it cannot work!

The TV has improved with a jiggle of the Scart lead.

i have an epson rx640 all in one and also scanner would not work with windows 7 on my laptop ,
i have 2 other computers on the network that work ok, i use my scanner a LOT with the laptop,
so i bought a new epson sx415 just for the scanner and kept my rx640 on the other two computers,
the problem is epson scan, the old version won't work with windows 7, the one that comes with the new printer does,
sadly loading it did not enable the scanner on the rx640,
you will probably be able to use the scanner within windows but the options are very poor,
the version of epson scan that came with new printer is 3.70en, but although when i start it, it asks which of the two printers i want to use the old one still errors.
Title: Re: New lap top
Post by: Abiam2 on Wednesday 17 March 10 06:13 GMT (UK)
Hello Falkryn,

I have/had Adobe Reader 9 Just comes up blank from all programs and Adobe? when trying to down load something

Fine Pix downloaded the fix.  Photos still won't download

Scanner Epson Perfection 1260  (It is about 8 years old but was working well before all this)

Scrabble try the administrator/compatibility on the actual program rather than the installation/setup file.
Sorry but how do I do this?
I get the opening picture and then RUNECRAFT and then a black screen and the message Something has gone wrong..................

Abiam2
Title: Re: New lap top
Post by: RJ_Paton on Wednesday 17 March 10 14:11 GMT (UK)
Adobe reader is a reader program for pdf files - Version 9 is fully compatible with Windows 7 so there shouldn't be this problem it would appear that something else is blocking the pdf files. Other free reader programs  are available.
Try testing the installation by locating a pdf file on your computer, right click on this and select "open with" and select Adobe reader from the selections.

As an afterthought some programs normally integrated with Internet Explorer do not work well within the 64 bit version of the program and it may be worthwhile checking your installation to find the 32 bit version which will also have been installed. Or if you wish you could try an alternative browser - there are several available

Epson have provided a Windows 7 driver for your scanner but unfortunately only for the 32 bit version. I suspect from the difficulties that you are having that your system has the 64 bit version installed.

(Right click on "Computer" on the desktop and select properties - this should tell you most of the information about your system)

Re Fine pix - it may be worthwhile unloading the version you have installed (go to control panel and uninstall) and then going to the site listed and downloading and then installing a fresh version.

Scrabble - double click on "Computer" on the desktop and open the window which lists your drives - work your way through this to find where Scrabble has been installed possibly in your C Drive in a folder called Program Files (x86). Open up the scrabble folder and look for the scrabble program icon - right click on this, select properties and do what you did before to the setup program.
Title: Re: New lap top
Post by: Leiper48 on Wednesday 17 March 10 18:32 GMT (UK)
 I too have annoying problems with Windows 7. I have bought a new desktop and although it will talk to my Canon iP5200 printer it is determined not to talk to my old but excellent Epson Prefection 1650 scanner. I also find now that my laptop running Windows XP can no longer talk to the printer through the wireless router which it did quite happily with the old one. Progress??  >:(

 Epson confirm that the scanner software isn't compatible and I should replace it!- I said that if I did it wouldn't be with another Epson - they didn't bother to reply.

 Any suggestions about the laptop?

John

Title: Re: New lap top
Post by: Abiam2 on Wednesday 17 March 10 19:54 GMT (UK)
Oh dear,
Things get worse and more expensive.  My camera had a pictbridge for downloading my pics and I needed a new battery. £20 for new battery to then discover the pictbridge was broken and not charging.  Hence new camera as Fuji don't do pictbridges any more. And 20 quid down the drain as my new battery is not compatible!   So the fine pix problem is solved as I have new software to load.

I took your advice about Adobe and it brings up my own pdfs beautifully but will not open anything from the web.  Any suggestions as to another program?

Re the Epson the computer is 64 bit.  I have searched around and it does mean a new scanner.  Any recommendations?  I have a Cannon PIXMA IP4200 printer.

Next thing - to follow the scrabble instructions.  Will report back,
Abiam2
Title: Re: New lap top
Post by: Abiam2 on Wednesday 17 March 10 20:06 GMT (UK)
Just worked through all instructions for Scrabble and thought I'd got it.  But no!  It just took longer to say it wasn't going to work!
Abiam2
Title: Re: New lap top
Post by: Isabel H on Wednesday 17 March 10 20:10 GMT (UK)
I took your advice about Adobe and it brings up my own pdfs beautifully but will not open anything from the web. 

Could it be Adobe Flash Player that is needed here?
Title: Re: New lap top
Post by: Abiam2 on Wednesday 17 March 10 20:12 GMT (UK)
I don't know   :(
Abiam2
Title: Re: New lap top
Post by: stevieuk on Wednesday 17 March 10 20:36 GMT (UK)
If you are looking for an alternative to Adobe Reader for PDF`s then try Foxit reader, its better & requires less resources.
http://download.cnet.com/Foxit-Reader/3000-10743_4-10313206.html?part=dl-116442&subj=dl&tag=button/

For the Scanner software, rather than buy a new Scanner, you could try out Vuescan, it has a trail before buying so nowt lost?
It supports the Epson Perfection 1260, which is presumably your Model?
http://www.hamrick.com/

Could it be Adobe Flash Player that is needed here?

as far as I know, there is no 64bit Adobe Flash player & Adobe Reader doesn`t need Flash to work.

Title: Re: New lap top
Post by: les_looking on Wednesday 17 March 10 21:18 GMT (UK)
I too have annoying problems with Windows 7. I have bought a new desktop and although it will talk to my Canon iP5200 printer it is determined not to talk to my old but excellent Epson Prefection 1650 scanner. I also find now that my laptop running Windows XP can no longer talk to the printer through the wireless router which it did quite happily with the old one. Progress??  >:(

 Epson confirm that the scanner software isn't compatible and I should replace it!- I said that if I did it wouldn't be with another Epson - they didn't bother to reply.

 Any suggestions about the laptop?

John



? so you upgrade to another OS, and then give epson stick for their item not working,
would think it should be MS you should be annoyed at,
then you tell epson your not buying their product and get the huff when they don't reply lol
if your scanner doesn't work in windows 7 then the chances of it working via the network to another computer are small,
if you want just to scan occasionally? then install it on the laptop,
or maybe bite the bullet and buy an epson all in one :P

As Stevie says for scanner software Vuescan does work in W7, i tried it but find it to fiddly for what i wanted,
but for those who want an occasional scan it does the job ;)
Title: Re: New lap top
Post by: stevieuk on Wednesday 17 March 10 21:44 GMT (UK)

? so you upgrade to another OS, and then give epson stick for their item not working,
would think it should be MS you should be annoyed at,
then you tell epson your not buying their product and get the huff when they don't reply lol
if your scanner doesn't work in windows 7 then the chances of it working via the network to another computer are small,
if you want just to scan occasionally? then install it on the laptop,
or maybe bite the bullet and buy an epson all in one :P

As Stevie says for scanner software Vuescan does work in W7, i tried it but find it to fiddly for what i wanted,
but for those who want an occasional scan it does the job ;)

Les

Whilst I agree to some degree with what you say, it is important for manufacturers to support their products or at least offer a work around for those who own their products....I can understand folks getting upset because an otherwise serviceable product now doesn`t work & can see your point about who`s fault is it.

I`ve said this before....Maybe Companies should say how long they will support a product? I have an Epson Scanner which is 6 years old & it works fine on Win7 64bit (Epsom have drivers & software), the Op`s Scanner is 8yrs old, Is 8yrs too old?

You cannot blame Microsoft (Hack-Spit) for bringing out a new O/S, surely Hardware manufacturers must share some responsibilities for making their products work under a new O/S?

Maybe the OP should wait a while & see if Epsom come up with a newer driver?

But I do support the theory that if a Manufacturer can`t be bother to support their older products it doesn`t give one confidence for the future.

Steve
Title: Re: New lap top
Post by: Abiam2 on Wednesday 17 March 10 21:48 GMT (UK)
I just tried the free down load and also found it a bit fiddly.  What I don't understand is why they can make my old scanner work and Epsom can't.
I have decided to buy a new scanner.  I gave up smoking a month ago.  And by my reckoning at £6 a day I have at least £180 to spend!
Suggestions please,
Abiam2
Title: Re: New lap top
Post by: les_looking on Wednesday 17 March 10 22:14 GMT (UK)

? so you upgrade to another OS, and then give epson stick for their item not working,
would think it should be MS you should be annoyed at,
then you tell epson your not buying their product and get the huff when they don't reply lol
if your scanner doesn't work in windows 7 then the chances of it working via the network to another computer are small,
if you want just to scan occasionally? then install it on the laptop,
or maybe bite the bullet and buy an epson all in one :P

As Stevie says for scanner software Vuescan does work in W7, i tried it but find it to fiddly for what i wanted,
but for those who want an occasional scan it does the job ;)

Les

Whilst I agree to some degree with what you say, it is important for manufacturers to support their products or at least offer a work around for those who own their products....I can understand folks getting upset because an otherwise serviceable product now doesn`t work & can see your point about who`s fault is it.

I`ve said this before....Maybe Companies should say how long they will support a product? I have an Epson Scanner which is 6 years old & it works fine on Win7 64bit (Epsom have drivers & software), the Op`s Scanner is 8yrs old, Is 8yrs too old?

You cannot blame Microsoft (Hack-Spit) for bringing out a new O/S, surely Hardware manufacturers must share some responsibilities for making their products work under a new O/S?

Maybe the OP should wait a while & see if Epsom come up with a newer driver?

But I do support the theory that if a Manufacturer can`t be bother to support their older products it doesn`t give one confidence for the future.

Steve

yep i do agree that companies should keep on top of things, maybe 8 years is pushing the boat a bit,
especially an item that can be bought for £20-£50,
as i say i have an epson rx640 and before that i had all the rx range, and when i found my scanner wouldnt work,
i bought another all in one for £50 ish, wont use it for a printer as i have a LARGE bag of inks for the 640 and the printer is excellent,
just couldnt be bothered losing the rest of me hair trying to get it working or waiting for epson to sort it lol,
i sort of had a similar problem as Leiper48 as the rx is is on my mac and networked to xp machines, and the problem arose when loading W7 on my laptop, as i say i just found it less stressfull to buy summat that worked out of the box and have a spare ;)
Title: Re: New lap top
Post by: Leiper48 on Thursday 18 March 10 08:45 GMT (UK)
Les, Stevie,

 Thanks for you comments. What I didn't say was that I had already failed to get any sense from Microsoft about the scanner - its like writing to Santa to complain about your presents!
 The reason I was annoyed about the scanner is that its not a bog standard one, but one I specifically chose because it scans 35mm slides and 2" glass plate mounted pics that my grandfather made dating back to the 1920's. Great for family history stuff.
 I'll try Vuescan when I'm feeling strong enough, thanks for the advice.

John
Title: Re: New lap top
Post by: Abiam2 on Thursday 18 March 10 09:07 GMT (UK)
Help,
I downloaded Vuescan yesterday.  There is probably no connection but this morning there was a message saying my computer couldn't be started!  They would try and repair it.  Half an hour later they were still trying.  Can't remember what happened next but I managed to shut down.  It did ask if I had added a camera or music player.  I hadn't the only things added were the new Finepix instructions from CD and I was using the instructions on another cd to see how to use the camera.  I did not join camera to computer.

Left it for another half an hour and tried again.  And it starts.  Whilst using it this morning I get a message saying Internet explorer has stopped working.

I know it is probably nothing to do with Vuescan but I want to get rid of it anyway.  It says delete the entire folder there are no files installed elsewhere on the system.  But I can't find the folder,
Abiam2
PS I'm scared to turn it off in case it happens again!
Title: Re: New lap top
Post by: les_looking on Thursday 18 March 10 11:47 GMT (UK)
Help,
I downloaded Vuescan yesterday.  There is probably no connection but this morning there was a message saying my computer couldn't be started!  They would try and repair it.  Half an hour later they were still trying.  Can't remember what happened next but I managed to shut down.  It did ask if I had added a camera or music player.  I hadn't the only things added were the new Finepix instructions from CD and I was using the instructions on another cd to see how to use the camera.  I did not join camera to computer.

Left it for another half an hour and tried again.  And it starts.  Whilst using it this morning I get a message saying Internet explorer has stopped working.

I know it is probably nothing to do with Vuescan but I want to get rid of it anyway.  It says delete the entire folder there are no files installed elsewhere on the system.  But I can't find the folder,
Abiam2
PS I'm scared to turn it off in case it happens again!

the folder should just be in C, and named vuescan not in programme files ;)
Title: Re: New lap top
Post by: les_looking on Thursday 18 March 10 11:51 GMT (UK)
Les, Stevie,

 Thanks for you comments. What I didn't say was that I had already failed to get any sense from Microsoft about the scanner - its like writing to Santa to complain about your presents!
 The reason I was annoyed about the scanner is that its not a bog standard one, but one I specifically chose because it scans 35mm slides and 2" glass plate mounted pics that my grandfather made dating back to the 1920's. Great for family history stuff.
 I'll try Vuescan when I'm feeling strong enough, thanks for the advice.

John

as i say John only option i'm afraid is to install on your laptop, or vuescan,
maybe see how you get on with vuescan first, you may decide not worth the ££ to use,
i deffo prefer epson scan and faster ;)
Title: Re: New lap top
Post by: Abiam2 on Thursday 18 March 10 18:31 GMT (UK)
Thank you Les, all done,
Abiam2
Title: Re: New lap top
Post by: Redroger on Thursday 18 March 10 19:49 GMT (UK)
These problems are definitely putting me off the planned upgrade, but this computer is now definitely creaking!
Title: Re: New lap top
Post by: Gadget on Thursday 18 March 10 20:00 GMT (UK)
Hi all

I feel guilty about all this because I bought a Win 7  laptop in January and,  because I had lots of XP programs and  peripherals  that were over 2 years old, I checked up on which operating system I should get. I ordered Windows 7 Professional and all my old programs and my peripherals have run without any problems whatsoever.

I can only say how good Win 7 is - tis fast and furious

Sorry  :-\


Gadget
Title: Re: New lap top
Post by: kerryb on Thursday 18 March 10 21:01 GMT (UK)
You are not alone Gadget, I shall stand feeling guilty next to you!  :-\

No problems with my new W7 laptop either, except that the package I used (NOF) for my website is no longer compatible.  No problem though, solution was to download and start using a free open source package and has forced me to rethink and update my website.  No bad thing!  ;D ;D

I am loving W7 and loving my new super speedy laptop.  I even take it to work to use now rather than the creaky old Local Authority rubbish I have for my job!  My productivity has gone through the roof  ;D ;D ;D ::) ::)

Kerry
Title: Re: New lap top
Post by: percy porter on Thursday 18 March 10 21:09 GMT (UK)
I'll vote for W 7 as well, I got my laptop with Windows 7 professional and apart from one program, Adobe Audition every thing runs well. the Adobe runs well on Windows 7 basic mode so I have no trouble.  Cleaner and faster.  Definitely the best OS they have come up with so far.........

Alan NZ
Title: Re: New lap top
Post by: Jolyon on Friday 19 March 10 19:58 GMT (UK)
For Abiam 2 (and anyone else interestted)

After further discussion Epson have solved my Scanner problem (DX6000 'all in one')  by link for installation of new driver suitable for my 64 bit Win 7.

 http://esupport.epson-europe.com/FileDetails.aspx?lng=en-GB&data=lkuCfcvA9cygqM90518FS5k1pnzBWIp9csKFqvQhPQAU003D&id=31775

Hopefully others can now benefit.

Jo
Title: Re: New lap top
Post by: Abiam2 on Saturday 20 March 10 18:15 GMT (UK)
Thanks Jolyon,
I can't even get to their contacts page to air my problems.  But pleased to hear you gort sorted!
Abiam2
Title: Re: New lap top
Post by: deeiluka on Saturday 05 June 10 06:36 BST (UK)
Hi Abiam & All,
My desktop (with XP) has crashed. Last time I had it repaired, my wonderful technician told me that when this happened, it was probably time to get a new one.

Talked to him this morning and mentioned compatability problems, in particular with family history programmes and databases. He foresaw that there'd be many folks like me who struggle with the technical side of computers, and so still has a good supply of XP operating systems.

I've also been reading about comapatability problems elsewhere. One that worries me is that of Skype with Win7, as I use Skype for all my phone calls,

So.....now I have to decide between Win7 professional it seems, and XP which I love......and will open all my disks in which I have made a considerable investment.  Decisions, decisions, decisions......what to do.......   ???


Dee    :)

Title: Re: New lap top
Post by: charlotteCH on Saturday 05 June 10 10:20 BST (UK)
I'll vote for W 7 as well, I got my laptop with Windows 7 professional and apart from one program, Adobe Audition every thing runs well. the Adobe runs well on Windows 7 basic mode so I have no trouble.  Cleaner and faster.  Definitely the best OS they have come up with so far.........

Alan NZ

Alan & everyone,

Will Win7 Professional run Outlook Express?

I have Win7 Home Premium and would gladly upgrade to Win& Pro if it runs OE.

Any comments, advice very welcome.
Thanks, charlotte
Title: Re: New lap top
Post by: RJ_Paton on Saturday 05 June 10 11:00 BST (UK)
Outlook Express will not run in W7 - it is not supplied with Windows now and has been replaced with an email program which is part of the "Windows Live" group of products.
Title: Re: New lap top
Post by: charlotteCH on Saturday 05 June 10 11:07 BST (UK)
Thank you Falkryn.  I have Win7Home and was hoping if I upgraded it might accomodate OE.

 I am trying to escape from webmail and get an email program that
 1. allows me to download my mail rather then leave it on the server
 2. allows me to sort/file mail into folders on the email program .

The various webmail programs I've tried to investigate don't allow these things.

charlotte
Title: Re: New lap top
Post by: stevieuk on Saturday 05 June 10 11:31 BST (UK)
Thunderbird should do what you want & more.

http://www.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/thunderbird/

About folders. Type folders in the question box & click continue.

http://www.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/support/

It works fine with Win7, I run Pro 64bit.

Oh & its Free!

Regards.

Steve
Title: Re: New lap top
Post by: charlotteCH on Saturday 05 June 10 11:43 BST (UK)
Steve, Thank you :).. I have Home 64 bit. Will check it out.
charlotte
Title: Re: New lap top
Post by: stevieuk on Saturday 05 June 10 11:56 BST (UK)
There are also 2 English versions British & US.

http://www.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/thunderbird/all.html

Scroll down the page.
Title: Re: New lap top
Post by: RJ_Paton on Saturday 05 June 10 12:06 BST (UK)
Thank you Falkryn.  I have Win7Home and was hoping if I upgraded it might accomodate OE.

 I am trying to escape from webmail and get an email program that
 1. allows me to download my mail rather then leave it on the server
 2. allows me to sort/file mail into folders on the email program .

The various webmail programs I've tried to investigate don't allow these things.

charlotte

I would echo the recommendation regarding Thunderbird - its a far better program and would do what you want

1- You can leave your email on the web or download to local folders - the decision is yours
2- Using the Message filters tools you can set up as many or as few folders as you wish and Thunderbird will sort them out as it downloads the mails.