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Research in Other Countries => United States of America => US Lookup Requests => Topic started by: jacqlineue on Tuesday 23 March 10 16:53 GMT (UK)
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Hello everyone,
I have relented and have agreed to do my husbands family tree. I have some information about these people but not a great deal. I am looking for information on Sabin Herfy or Heify.
He had a daughter who is named Lena or Evalyna who we believe was also born in Rochester. Sabin came from Germany and travelled back and forth to both Britain and Germany. In 1902 he returned to NY as a widow after visiting Germany. I would be gratefull if anyone can find any information about his death and the birth of his children.
I also believe that Lena married in America and she married Harry Chester as I cannot find a marraige in Britain for her although some of her children were born here. One of her sons was born in Rochester NY in 1895. His name was Harry William.
I hope someone can help with this search.
Thanks for looking
Jac
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Hi Jac.
Just to clarify:- Sabin Heify/Herfy was born about 1840 Germany. He appears in the Rochester City Directory for 1888/1889/90 boards 13 Klueh park. labourer. There is no 1890 census which destroyed by fire and he does'nt seem to appear in 1900. Anc..try tree has Sabin married to Katherine Hauk. 3 children listed - one of which is Lena. The other 2 are Daniel 1873 Germany and Barbara 1884 New York. Barbara married to William J Liebeck born 1884 New York.
Evalyna was born 1877 in Germany and married Harry Chester (born 1871) Suffolk. England perhaps in the USA.
Evalyna died in 1947 England Harry Chester Died in England 1948.
The son Harry William Chester born 1895 Rochester. Monroe. New York Married Hilda Florence Perry. Harry died 1971 in England. Hilda died 1976 in England. There daughter Pamela was born 1921 in Scotland and Died 2007 England.
Just to help a little more with a time frame. When did Evalyna and Harry appear in England ? When was the first child born in England ?
Anc..try having technically problem - can't check any further at moment.
IF the birth were in New York City - BMD Records are the site below:-
www.italiangen.org
Some census records can be seen here:-
http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#start
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This may help you with forming the picture of the family. This is 1920 Census Rochester Ward 15, Monroe, New York
William Liebeck 36 Film Maker at the Kodak Factory
Barbara Liebeck 34
George Liebeck 9 months.
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IF the birth were in New York City - BMD Records are the site below:-
www.italiangen.org
Rochester is about an 8 hour drive from New York City today, so I wouldn't expect to find anything there unless you know they were in New York City at some point.
There are some city directories for Rochester that you can browse here:
http://www2.libraryweb.org/orgMain.asp?orgid=468 Other helpful links here:
http://www2.libraryweb.org/index.asp?orgid=42&sid=&
There is information about requesting look-ups in New York state vital records index here:
http://ny-genes.blogspot.com/2008/03/new-york-state-vital-records-microfiche.html
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Sabin and Katherine Herfy, Barbara, Daniel and Magola Herfy etc will appear on 1892 Census New York Here - Rochester Ward 15
http://www.rootschat.com/links/089r/
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A little more for the family background. Ancc.try tree has Daniel Herfy married to Emma Feikler 13 May 1901 Rochester. New York. Emma born 1870 Rochester. ;D
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A POSSIBILITY New York Passenger List 18 Jun 1881. SS Castor.
Listed are D Herfy born 1874. M Herfy Aged 4 (Female born 1877) and C Herfy (Female born 1840) aged 41 years.
Amsterdam. Netherlands to New York
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Two marriage records are under Herfy for this family here:
http://www.cityofrochester.gov/app.aspx?id=8589936475
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Thank you all so much for this information you have been so kind. It is so good to know there are folk who can help. I hope one day to be able to repay the favour.
Regards
Jac
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Hello Jac.
Your very welcome - amazing how many small pieces of information you can find these days to fit the jig-sawpieces together. You never know we could find more - just takes a bit of team-work sometimes - fingers crossed. ;D
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Hi again,
Just a quick question. Could the people on the passenger list be Daniel and a sister and Mum with Katherine spelt with a C.
Wishfull thinking I suppose.
Thanks
jac
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The search engine isn't perfect, but there are a few mentions of the Herfy family in Rochester papers here: http://www.fultonhistory.com/Fulton.html
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I would think that was the family on the passenger list in 1881 were Catherine/Katherine and the children. ;D
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Looks as if Sabin was widowed by 1900 so perhaps Catherine/Katherine died in Rochester.1900 Census Rochester Ward 20, Monroe, New York
Saben Herfi 61 Bornn April 1839 Germany. Widowed. Marriage year 1870. Had 7 children but only 3 survive. Immigrated 1878 Labourer.
Barbara Herfi 16
So if only 3 children survive in 1900 - thats Evalyna, Barbara and Daniel.
(Magola must have died between 1892 and 1900)
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Thank you so much for that Dettori. This sure is a very interesting journey. My husband and his father will be so pleased to have all this information. You people are so helpful and I really appreciate it.
thanks again
Jac
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Hello Jac.
Another little snippet for you, it all helps piece things together.
The WW1 Draft For William JOHN Liebeck gives his birth as 21 April 1883 and he is a film maker with Eastman Kodak. His wife is named as Barbara JULIA Liebeck
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Thanks again for these little pieces of information. They are starting to fit together nicely and some of the web sites have given more. I found a newspaper article for Lena in one of the papers. It was an article about her death in England. I also found a death notice for Emma naming her sisters, brothers and daughters.
Unfortunately I have to work so spend all day wishing I was at home and retired to spend more time on this,
Thanks again
Jac
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There is a census record for 1930 Rochester, Monroe, New York. Makes me wonder if both William and Barbara have died ?
St Joseph's Orphan Assylum.
George Liebeck Aged 10 years.
Lawrence Liebeck Aged 8 Years
Charles - Can't quite make his age out properly but it looks like 4 years 10 months.
SSDI Record. George Liebeck son of William and Barbara
George Liebeck Born 6 April 1919 Died Jul 1980. Rochester. Monroe. New York
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If they were all Liebeck brothers these are the other records.
SSDI
Charles A Liebeck Born 27 June 1925 Died 2 May 2005 - Rochester, Monroe, New York.
Accoring to US Veterans Grabesites:- Charles A Liebeck was in service S1 US NAVY WORLD WAR II and is Buried at Holy Sepulchre Cemetery.Cemetery Address: 2461 Lake Ave Rochester, NY 14612
SSDI
Lawrence J Liebeck Born 6 July 1921 Died 17 Jan 2008 - Rochester, Monroe, New York.
WW2 Army Enlistment. Enlistment Date :- 12 Aug 19442. Lawrence J Liebeck was in the Air Corps. Had 4 years of High School. Civil Occupation: Skilled photographic process occupations. Single without dependants.
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Hello Dettori, I just have to say that you are amazing doing all this for us. It does look like they are his children and that they are dead. It is so sad that these three young lads were orphaned.
I thank you again for all your hard work.
Best wishes
Jac
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Hello Jac.
Found this thread - November 08.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/089y/
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I looked at that Canadian Passenger List last night - amazing.
H Chester. Born 1870. Labourer. Arrived 24 Jan 1890 on SS Oregon. Dominion Line. Liverpool to Halifax, Nova Scotia and Portland, Maine
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1900 Census Rochester Ward 5, Monroe, New York
Bernard Rogers 51 Gertrude Masters 22 James Little 25
Jennie Little 25 Lahar Blodgett 35 Gwin Blodgett 31 Harold Blodgett 8 Bertha Mccallen 26 Ira J Mccallen 25
Daniel Hurly 28
Emma Hurly 30
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Thank you so much.
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Barbara Herfy - Alias Barbara Herby.
New York Passenger List.
Barbara Herby. Age 17. Laundress.24 Jan 1902 SS Celtic. Liverpool to New York. (Newcastle to Rochester)
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Stella Phyllis Chester 6 December1913 in Camberwell, London. Died 29 April 1991
in Lewisham, London. Cremation. Ashes later scattered in Hither Green Cemetery Area H3. Mem. Plaque in Garden of Remembrance but Lease expired - Married Thomas Charlie Brown 8 June 1935. Had 2 daughters.
Thomas Charles Brown Oct.1904 in South Shields. UK Died 17 June 1963
in Lewisham, London.
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Gosh - looks as if Evalyna had about 16 children. Don't expect you want all that info ?
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Hi again,
I have the records for some of Evalina's children but not all of them. I have the ones that were born in England I think. Also who is Stella? Is she one of Evalina's children? I am getting a bit lost at the moment and trying to record everything in order.
I hope to have this done soon.
I suppose it would be a bit cheeky to ask the names of the children :).
Thanks again for all the help.
Jac
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Yes, Stella is one of Evalyna and Harry Chesters children she would be about 10th or so on the list of children
Harry 1895 Maurice Cyril 1898 Percy Frederick 1900 Clarence Edward 1902
Gladys Eveline 1904 Lena Mary 1905 Edna May 1907 Barbara Lillian 1909
Nona Esme 1911 Stella Phyllis 1913 Vera Irene 1916 Norma Violet 1920
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Good God they were busy.
Well I am just glad we don't have them like that these days. Bad enough with all our mod cons.
I have looked at the thread you gave me and have contacted them so thanks again for that. I think they may be related to my husband and that would be nice.
Hope you are as good at finding your own ancestors as you have been with ours.
Best wishes
Jac
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Hello Jac.
Pleased that I have have been able to help you make some progress and I do hope that you get some response. It would seem that many of those lived and died in London - the last one was Gladys Evelyn in Lewisham. London. 2002.
Its not possible to always have the success at tracing everyone but its been an amazing successful week in the quest to help people.
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Hello
I was doing a search of my great grandmother Evalyna Herfy (Heify). My mother was 1 of 10 children born to her son Percy Frederick Chester. I imagine she has many many relatives!!
I understand Evalyna was born in Germany c1876 before her family moved to the USA. She travelled to the UK and I believe lived in Fulham, SW London.
As you know she died in London UK on 29/8/1947