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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Caithness => Topic started by: tommytoronto on Wednesday 23 March 05 03:55 GMT (UK)
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Is anyone researching the Stewart family - specifically the one that includes Lt Col William Stewart (1769-1854) who was Lt Gov of New South Wales in 1825.They seem to be from Watten and Reay - but I'm not sure before that - I have seen one tree online that links this line to the Kings of Scotland - have been able to prove all but three generations of that tree, loking to try and fill those in with some evidence :-)
Tom
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Tom - I am a Stewart looking for my Stewart's form Scotland. The only real clue that I can go by is that they came from possibly Argyllshire. Another clue that I have is our family cemetery here in Ontario, Canada is called the Stewart/Kilmartin Cemetery the reason I'm told is that they were form that area of Scotland. I still have no idea where this Kilmartin place is yet. My Great Grampa was Alexander Stewart who married a Christena McLean. Both born in Scotland. He came to Canada in 1850 and She came here in 1847. Any connections possibly?
Lorrie
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HI - well- I think our Stewarts are from opposite sides of the highlands :-) Mine are from Caithness at the ne corner of scotland, and i looked up kilmartin - it is in Argyllshire, however searching the IGI codes for there did not fid a lot of stewart s- though a general search for Argyll on IGI gave me well over 400 - i just tried the first two pages - sadly it is a very common name there ( as are the others I have ended up with to search there....my english names are so less popular!!!
But - who knows - ultimately it coudl be one man that brought the name there :-) (A busy man I guess...)
Best of Luck
Tom
P.S.- I am in Ontario too- and have used quite a considerable amount of their resources.....Any help needed - just ask.....
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Hi Tom,
My family has researched Lt Col Stewarts lineage back to the 1200s, all of which may be of interest to you and I'd be willing to share. You may contact me on * Unfortunately I have none of this research on computer as it has been handed down to me in hard copy format in book form. My mother is directly linked to this guy and as we live in Australia have been able to research him well here. His residence still stands and is heritage listed.
Looking forward to hearing from you
Regards
Rhonda
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Wow - excellent to hear from you - I dropped you an email - I hope you got it OK....
Look forward to finding out more...
Tom
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Lt Col later Major General William Stewart was my great great grandfather. I have a reasonable family history, let me know what you are looking for. Pongo
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just sent you a pvt msg....
Tom
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Well - my first question would be to verify that he is the gentleman that erected a table stone at Halkirk to his Grandfather Donald, and his uncle Neil. In the same row of monuments 3 away is who I believe is his sister Johanna, with the monument erected by their sister Madalina. Next to her - 2 away from the table stone is John Stewart, who I believe is his brother (and herein lies my confusion). The table stone is erected by Lt Col Stewart of the 3rd regiment of Buffs, which I have found through searching to very probably be him.
My gr gr gr gr gr gr grandmother Elizabeth Stewart is I believe his sister. Elizabeth, Johanna, and Madalina were the daughters of William Stewart and Elizabeth Horne (and there were at least 5 other siblings - not including William and John). I have had a hard time finding the exact record for William himself, but a cousin and fellow researcher has an obituary of Elizabeth's daughter Elizabeth Waters nee Gunn in which she is referred to as niece to Lt Col Stewart. I have also emailed the Caithness archives, and they said they were pretty sure they had found the connection of William to the other siblings, but being unemployed right now couldn't really afford for them to do the research. However - John's death certificate shows him as the son of Donald Stewart and Elizabeth Horne.
There is a tree for Lt Col Stewarts family tree on Ancestry.com. It lists his parents as William Stewart and Ann Gunn, and his grandparents as Donald Stewart and Elizabeth Horne. It also lists Donald Stewart as being born in 1700, and dying in April 1793. The April 1793 matches the transcription I found, but it says there he is 78 - thus born in 1715/6. It also lists John Stewart as their child, and uncle to Lt Col Stewart. From there three generations back I can find nothing online, so can't try to figure it out that way. I'm pretty sure the parents are wrong - and desperately looking for evidence for the paternal stewart line to link it to where I have found it online. My grandfather - descended from Elizabeth Stewart - in 82, and would love to be able to show him a family tree going back that far before he passes.
Tom
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Here is a bit of info about William, I will have to dig through some papers for his parents and siblings and will get back to you.
Cheers Pongo
The first member of the family to set foot in Australia was:
William Stewart (1769-1854)
Born at Dounreay, in Caithness, Scotland, William joined the army in 1796 and became Colonel of the Third Regiment of Foot. From 1825 to 1827, he served as Lieutenant-Governor of New South Wales. In 1827, he was given a grant of land at Mount Pleasant, near Bathurst. The same year he went to India with his regiment and was appointed Major-General. He returned to Mount Pleasant in 1832 where he remained until his death in 1854.
While in Canada in 1814 he married Ann Sylvia Wolfe by whom he had the following children:
Caroline Madelaine - Born Montreal, Canada, in 1815. She married, firstly, Captain Donald Stewart, a cousin, and after he was killed in action in 1844, she came back to Mount Pleasant and married Charles Henry Green, at one time Commissioner for the Western Gold Fields. In 1855, she and her husband went to Queensland where they settled on the Darling Downs. She had no children and the date of her death is not known.
Elizabeth - Born in Saint Pol, France, in 1817 where her father was stationed after Waterloo as part of the Allied Army of Occupation. She married the Reverend Mr K.D. Smythe, Presbyterian minister at Bathurst. She and her husband went to Scotland in 1863 where she died in 1908.
Ann - a twin of Elizabeth who died at the age of 18 months.
Letitia - Born in Edinburgh in 1820. She married a Mr David Kennedy, manager of a bank at Bathurst. They had three sons and Letitia died in 1894.
William - Born in 1822, he died at Strath of Bylster, near Wick, Caithness, in 1829.
James Horne - Born in Edinburgh in 1825. He was named after his father's uncle, James Horne of Stirkoke, Caithness. He came to Australia in 1834 with his mother and the other children when they rejoined William at Mount Pleasant. James was educated at the Australian College in Sydney and in 1855 married Harriet Eliza Boyce (1839-1923), the daughter of the Reverend Mr William Boyce of Sydney. Harriet and James had five children.
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wow - I didn;t have all those children of William. The fact that James was named after his father's uncle helps a HUGE amount - as it helps me prove that William's mother was Elizabeth Horne - and had a brother James. Now to hunt that out - and see what I can find.....
I look forward to seeing what you have on William's siblings and parents - and can give you what I have on them as well........
Tom
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Regarding Alexander Stewart and Christina McLean from Kilmartin. If memory serves Kilmartin is the parish just to the north of Lochgilphead and Glassary parishes in Argyll. There were quite a number of Stewarts in the Glassary area and I have a privately published history of them which was published about 1998. IF you know Alexander's parents I could see if that might mate up with any of the information which I have.
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Here is a bit of info about William, I will have to dig through some papers for his parents and siblings and will get back to you.
Cheers Pongo
Hi Pongo
I've just found this site and having read the background information that you and the others have posted I am very pleased I have.
I have been researching my family history to find a link between Major General William Stewart and my great grandmother.
Her married name was Elizabeth Stewart Fraser and her maiden name was Mackay. She came from Melvich in the North of Scotland.
There has never been any doubt from my Grandmother before she died and all the other family members that my great grandmother was a descendant of William Stewart and the family photo albums have photos of Abercrombie House in them.
Up until now I imagined that My Great grandmother's mother must have been one of William's daughters but having read your list of William's children I can't see where she fits in.
I can't imagine she was one of James' daughters who would all have been Australians
as my mother knew her and she was very Scotish.
Any help in this direction would be gratefully received.
Great to touch base with you and all the others
Gordon
The first member of the family to set foot in Australia was:
William Stewart (1769-1854)
Born at Dounreay, in Caithness, Scotland, William joined the army in 1796 and became Colonel of the Third Regiment of Foot. From 1825 to 1827, he served as Lieutenant-Governor of New South Wales. In 1827, he was given a grant of land at Mount Pleasant, near Bathurst. The same year he went to India with his regiment and was appointed Major-General. He returned to Mount Pleasant in 1832 where he remained until his death in 1854.
While in Canada in 1814 he married Ann Sylvia Wolfe by whom he had the following children:
Caroline Madelaine - Born Montreal, Canada, in 1815. She married, firstly, Captain Donald Stewart, a cousin, and after he was killed in action in 1844, she came back to Mount Pleasant and married Charles Henry Green, at one time Commissioner for the Western Gold Fields. In 1855, she and her husband went to Queensland where they settled on the Darling Downs. She had no children and the date of her death is not known.
Elizabeth - Born in Saint Pol, France, in 1817 where her father was stationed after Waterloo as part of the Allied Army of Occupation. She married the Reverend Mr K.D. Smythe, Presbyterian minister at Bathurst. She and her husband went to Scotland in 1863 where she died in 1908.
Ann - a twin of Elizabeth who died at the age of 18 months.
Letitia - Born in Edinburgh in 1820. She married a Mr David Kennedy, manager of a bank at Bathurst. They had three sons and Letitia died in 1894.
William - Born in 1822, he died at Strath of Bylster, near Wick, Caithness, in 1829.
James Horne - Born in Edinburgh in 1825. He was named after his father's uncle, James Horne of Stirkoke, Caithness. He came to Australia in 1834 with his mother and the other children when they rejoined William at Mount Pleasant. James was educated at the Australian College in Sydney and in 1855 married Harriet Eliza Boyce (1839-1923), the daughter of the Reverend Mr William Boyce of Sydney. Harriet and James had five children.
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Hi All
My Great Grandmother came from Melvick in Northern Scotland to New Zealand to marry her Scottish fiance in 1870s and was a descendant of Major General William Stewart. I thought she was a direct descendant but can't quite figure where she fits now after seeing Pongo's list of William's children.
Her Maiden Name was Elizabeth Stewart Mackay who married John Cameron Fraser, also from Melvick.
Does anyone have a family tree that would show where she fits in the picture. There is no doubt that she is a descendant of William as my Mother who is still alive knew her heard all her stories and the family albums have photos of Abercrombie House etc.
If anyone can fill me in on this i would be very grateful.
Kindest
Gordon
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Hi there,
Not sure if this thread is still being used. I've recently discovered that my family is related to James Horne Stewart and I'm trying to do a bit more research to see where we fit in. Do you know the names of James' children?
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Hi Gordon,
I have done a bit of research on the Stewart Family of Caithness . maybe you could give me a call as i am in Auckland and may be able to help. (*)
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