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Please will you look up any Peveralls for the Bristol Census 1851, or variations Paverell, Peverel(l) or Pevral.
Looking for William and Sarah.
I have no address, so if it cannot be done without one, that's OK, but would appreciate your advice.
Thank you
Patk ???
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Hi,
Only one I could find on the 1851 Glos/Bristol/Somerset/Wilts CD is:
HEWELSFIELD 1851 Census Gloucestershire
The Whole of the Parish of Hewelsfield
Pages 25
Persons 254 Male 243 Female 497 Total
Enumerator John Prichard
41
PEVERIL William 32 Labourer Hewelsfield
Elizabeth 31 Chappel Hill
Sarah 8 Hewelsfield
Harriet 5 Hewelsfield
Maria 2 Hewelsfield
William Henry 2m Hewelsfield
I believe Hewelsfield is some 17 miles north of Bristol.
Cheers
Steve
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Thanks Steve
That is mine, but I was looking for William senior, it may be that he had died by then.
Thanks anyway for looking so promptly and for listing the family ( they all came out to NZ.)
Pat
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Perhaps someone here has the 1841 Gloucestershire census? Sounds like the next thing to go for if you are trying to get to the previous generation. Your PEV*'s seem to have been in Hewelsfield at least 1819-1851 from the look of things.
BTW the IGI only seems to go to 1812 for Hewelsfield, but be aware that there are probably LDS films of PRs that go later than this - that's usually the case.
In fact I found this in the online IGI:
Mary Anne PAVERELL bapt 09 JUN 1811, Hewelsfield, Gloucester, England. Parents Wm. PAVERELL & Sarah.
Batch C029191 / FIlm 0425439.
Could well be your William & Sarah especially if William junior was a comparatively late addition c1817 and so beyond reach of the IGI.
This iGI batch is from Bishop's Transcripts that end in 1812 so if I was you I would would check LDS website to see if they have later (non IGI) films covering your era of interest - try place search perhaps.
Good luck
Steve
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Oops - that was pretty useless advice I gave you! I had a look for myself at the LDS place search
http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=generallocalitysearch
and for Hewelsfield there is little after 1812 on film:
Bishop's transcripts, Church of England 1586-1812
Parish registers, Church of England 1663-1812
Transcript St. Mary Magdalene, marriage register, 1754-1812
Transcript St. Mary Magdalene, burial registers, 1727-1836
though they do have the 1841 census on film, if you can't get a lookup (I think they have all UK census 1841-1891 on film).
So the 1841 census still seems your best bet for getting a handle on William & Sarah's family. Then with info from that, you should be able to trace back further using the IGI and/or LDS films, if your folk were in Hewelsfield for a long time. Especially as they had a lovely name - despite the problems with spelling variations, I'd rather be looking for PEVERALL etc. than the JOHNSONs I'm chasing up!
Steve
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Dear Steve
On the contrary it was not useless advice at all as the listing you have difers from mine, which I obtained for LDS, in that the place of birth for Elizabeth formerly Rossiter was given as Chapel Hill and we had Chepstow! So another puzzle!. I did look at the 1841 census for Peverals in Hewelsfield but I could not find them, so it is possible that they came from Bristol or some other nearby place.
I do appreciate the extra yard you have gone for me and I guess the nextstep would be perhaps to ask the Bristol FH Society to do a look uo for me.Thanks again, Pat.
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Yes, on reflection I think they did not originate in Hewelsfield. It's covered in the IGI up to 1812, and there is only one record for their name (the 1811 baptism).
I had a look for children of William & Sarah in the IGI (which I know is very patchy for Gloucestershire), and there are 2 in the right time frame:
Sarah PEVERELL bapt 6 Jan 1808 Bristol (parents William & Sarah, batch C017167)
Mary Anne PAVERELL bapt 9 Jun 1811 Hewelsfield (parents Wm & Sarah, batch C029191).
Don't know if the 1st baptism belongs, but the 2nd seems very likely due to the location.
The marriage, and other baptisms, must have been in parishes not covered in the IGI. Baptisms after 1812 probably in Hewelsfield as William jun born there c1818.
If they're not in Hewelfield in the 1841 census, my guess is that they would be somewhere nearby, as their son William was born there c1818 and was there c1842-1851 according to 1851 census.
BTW I can't vouch for "Chapell Hill" as I only have a transcript of the 1851 - my eyesight's starting to fail, but I still prefer to use it rather than someone else's! However Chapel Hill *is* only 1.8 miles from Hewelsfield according to Parloc.
Steve
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Dear Steve,
Thank you for that, I did have Mary Ann and that was her name at census time but must have been written down incorrectly. Sarah must be ours too as my GGM was Sarah, and as for Chappel Hill that is very hard to search I did check the LDS census for 1841 but could not find them there either!!
Sorry to hear about your eyesight, it has looked pretty good to me!, and a big thank you for all your help as I have still to follow up some of the sources you used with the LDS etc. Pat :)
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Dear Steve,
Thank you for that, I did have Mary Ann and that was her name at census time but must have been written down incorrectly. Sarah must be ours too as my GGM was Sarah, and as for Chappel Hill that is very hard to search I did check the LDS census for 1841 but could not find them there either!!
Sorry to hear about your eyesight, it has looked pretty good to me!, and a big thank you for all your help as I have still to follow up some of the sources you used with the LDS etc. Pat :)
PS I have just been on the LDS Place search, what a great asset that is. Will now spend time at one of their centres. Thanks Steve.
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Dear Steve
On the contrary it was not useless advice at all as the listing you have differs from mine, which I obtained for LDS, in that the place of birth for Elizabeth formerly Rossiter was given as Chapel Hill and we had Chepstow! So another puzzle!. I did look at the 1841 census for Peverals in Hewelsfield but I could not find them, so it is possible that they came from Bristol or some other nearby place.
I do appreciate the extra yard you have gone for me and I guess the nextstep would be perhaps to ask the Bristol FH Society to do a look up for me.Thanks again, Pat.
Hi,
I'm researching the Rossiter family and noted the mention of Elizabeth marrying into the Peveril family. I wonder does anyone know who her parents were please as I'm trying to link her to the families already in my database?
Any information greatly appreciated.TIA.
best wishes
rcuser
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Hi recuser,
I did not get very far researching the Rossiter family in either Chapel Hill or Chepstow. We searched both in the 1841 and 1851, and some of the surrounding areas using the LDS census and church records.
We did wonder if Thomas Rossiter born abt 1790, Chepstow and Harriet Stokes Lewis was Elizabeth's mother and father, they married 2 April 1808 at Chepstow, but we cannot be sure about this. Elizabeth's second daughter was called Harriet Louisa Peveral.
Sorry my information is so sketchy, but the records are pretty scant in that area of the world. We can however be sure of the children of William Peveral and Elizabeth ( May) Rossiter. Let me know exactly what you are looking for, and I am willing to share with you some of the family history we have on William and Elizabeth, if there is a connection to your interests.
Regards
Patk
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Hi Patk,
Apologies for the delay in replying. Thanks for taking the time to look them up for me.
The name Harriet Stokes Lewis certainly seems familiar I know I've met it somewhere on my travels. I'll check that out.
I'll be happy to have any details you have please on William & Elizabeth's children. Hopefully they may give me a lead to climb higher up the tree.
Look forward to hearing from you.
best wishes
rcuser
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Dear rcuser
Thanks for replying. I had almost given up hope of ever finding a connection of my family to Harriet Stokes Lewis and Thomas Rossiter as it is impossible to add their names without further confirmation in respect of Elizabeth Rossiter, born Chepstow, who married William Peveral in 1842. The Peveral family are all listed here, and their children were all born in Hewelsfield, including William Peveral.
I did search the baptismal records for Elizabeth in Chepstow, but could not find her. Perhaps she was born in another village. Perhaps one day there will be a post script! who knows!
Thanks again,
Pat